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Feb 19, 4:28 PM
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@Zarutaku Gotta be the wildest take I’ve heard of 2025
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Aisha is best sister because
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She act like a kid. A spoiled one perhaps.
Maybe you just dont like kids? Or a spoiled one?

Every logic she use is a really well written mind of a kid.
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GNSanime said:
@Zarutaku Gotta be the wildest take I’ve heard of 2025

Which one, the genki brocon attitude? Doesn't seem that wild to me, most Aisha fans like her because of it.
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@Zarutaku Saying, “If that’s meant to be serious,” to the other person saying that Rudy groomed children. Seems pretty wild to me
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@Zarutaku Saying, “If that’s meant to be serious,” to the other person saying that Rudy groomed children. Seems pretty wild to me
GNSanime said:
Saying, “If that’s meant to be serious,” to the other person saying that Rudy groomed children. Seems pretty wild to me

They fell in love with him because he was a supportive companion, and it wasn't even his intention that they fall in love with him, so saying that "he groomed them to become his wives" is twisted mental gymnastics.
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Tell me you understand jacksht about the series and characters without actually telling me that.
mechian said:
Norn is a net negative on Rudeus' life,

-Without Norn there's a possibility Paul and Rudeus relation won't have gotten better this soon.
- Rudeus won't accept his past failures.
- He wouldn't have gone to Begarid and Roxy dies, who knows what happens to Zenith. There's a chance Paul may survive but not guaranteed. No one should trust hitogami and Rudy trusting his sister over a god is better descision how regretful things are/were to become.

Norn acts as the most sane normal person who ready to call out Rudeus bs. Only time that was unwarranted when she hated Sylphy Rudy's married relation otherwise all have valid grounds.
- Beating up your father who is the only one protected you
- Being compared to constantly to your way too talented brother and looked down upon
- Expecting my strong perfect brother to rescue our family
- Shocked to find he can't but immediately regrets blaming him seeing his hand and even saying "you did your best, I know"
- And the Roxy thing...
Seeing your brother coming back with another wife while not successful in resucing everyone and while leaving a pregnant wife home. Norn was representation of common sense and viewers. Sylphy accepted the decision because that's who she is but Rudeus has no grounds to enforce it and Norn called that out as she should.

I have seen two types of extreme dumb takes in this matter

1. Blind Rudy haters - Rudy is perv cheating scum.
2. Blind Rudy fans- Norn has no right to question anything.

Both are equally stupid...
And ffs she even reluctantly albeit did accept it when Sylphy convinced her.


Aisha is great but so far she is just ok loving bit clingy lil sister which is great. But Norn is one of the best Mushoku Tensie characters only behind Sylphy. Norn hate won't be tolerated begone...
@WaterMage This is not true at all. Norn's behaviour actually triggered Rudeus' trauma. It had no effect on Paul and Rudy's reunion at Begaritt.

- Beating up your father who is the only one protected you

Bro are you fucking serious? Did you forget that it was PAUL, a 30 year old man, that sucker punched a 7 year old in the face?

- Being compared to constantly to your way too talented brother and looked down upon

How is this Rudy's fault again?

- Expecting my strong perfect brother to rescue our family

The one she was hating on about 2 weeks ago. The most egregious part is that this was AFTER she found out Sylphy was pregnant and Rudy was about to be a father.

The Roxy thing is the only thing that has some merit but that falls flat because the rest of the family does not care. The main person to care (Sylphy) doesn't and calling Roxy a shameless concubine is disrespecting Aisha.
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@WaterMage This is not true at all. Norn's behaviour actually triggered Rudeus' trauma. It had no effect on Paul and Rudy's reunion at Begaritt.

- Beating up your father who is the only one protected you

Bro are you fucking serious? Did you forget that it was PAUL, a 30 year old man, that sucker punched a 7 year old in the face?

- Being compared to constantly to your way too talented brother and looked down upon

How is this Rudy's fault again?

- Expecting my strong perfect brother to rescue our family

The one she was hating on about 2 weeks ago. The most egregious part is that this was AFTER she found out Sylphy was pregnant and Rudy was about to be a father.

The Roxy thing is the only thing that has some merit but that falls flat because the rest of the family does not care. The main person to care (Sylphy) doesn't and calling Roxy a shameless concubine is disrespecting Aisha.
mechian said:
Norn's behaviour actually triggered Rudeus' trauma

Lol what why? Did you watch the show .

His father fucking died infront him that's the reason for his trauma not Norn what a horrible horrible take. From where does one reach this conclusion. It's so bad enough to dismiss everything you said outright but I am gonna do it anyway..

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PAUL, a 30 year old man, that sucker punched a 7 year old in the face?


So what? It was needed to send him to Eris without that he wouldn't have made any progress in life so W. They had fair fight Rudy didn't won have to go that's the bet.

mechian said:
How is this Rudy's fault again

Not addressing it sooner. It's not his fault just circumstances which was making both go opposite direction since their reunion in Milis.

mechian said:
The one she was hating on about 2 weeks ago. The most egregious part is that this was AFTER she found out Sylphy was pregnant and Rudy was about to be a father.

So they patched up and became close. Rudy was also teaching her magic and helping in studies. She is FUCKING KID she doesn't hold agenda against her brother.
And Sylphy pregnancy has nothing to do with it she was worried about it sure but Sylphy wasn't alone and helpless in Ranoa. A child will still want to help his parents more than caring about potential new born, it's basic human instincts. Even Sylphy sympathized with it and so encouraged Rudeus to go...
mechian said:
Roxy a shameless concubine is disrespecting Aisha

I don't think she used this word ? She called her shameless behaviour shameless.
This is a very grey area. What Roxy did isn't morally correct she wanted to help Rudeus but also want to fullfill her wish. So Norn has right to call her out.

And she apologized to Aisha after she realised her mistake...

Again it's freaking child she will have natural outbursts that's natural and it's not like she is completely wrong...
If Sylphy wasn't Goddess, best wife ever and greatest of greatest being to ever existed(All Hail Sylphy🙌💚)she would have been proven right.
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mechian said:
Norn's behaviour actually triggered Rudeus' trauma

Lol what why? Did you watch the show .

His father fucking died infront him that's the reason for his trauma not Norn what a horrible horrible take. From where does one reach this conclusion. It's so bad enough to dismiss everything you said outright but I am gonna do it anyway..

mechian said:
PAUL, a 30 year old man, that sucker punched a 7 year old in the face?


So what? It was needed to send him to Eris without that he wouldn't have made any progress in life so W. They had fair fight Rudy didn't won have to go that's the bet.

mechian said:
How is this Rudy's fault again

Not addressing it sooner. It's not his fault just circumstances which was making both go opposite direction since their reunion in Milis.

mechian said:
The one she was hating on about 2 weeks ago. The most egregious part is that this was AFTER she found out Sylphy was pregnant and Rudy was about to be a father.

So they patched up and became close. Rudy was also teaching her magic and helping in studies. She is FUCKING KID she doesn't hold agenda against her brother.
And Sylphy pregnancy has nothing to do with it she was worried about it sure but Sylphy wasn't alone and helpless in Ranoa. A child will still want to help his parents more than caring about potential new born, it's basic human instincts. Even Sylphy sympathized with it and so encouraged Rudeus to go...
mechian said:
Roxy a shameless concubine is disrespecting Aisha

I don't think she used this word ? She called her shameless behaviour shameless.
This is a very grey area. What Roxy did isn't morally correct she wanted to help Rudeus but also want to fullfill her wish. So Norn has right to call her out.

And she apologized to Aisha after she realised her mistake...

Again it's freaking child she will have natural outbursts that's natural and it's not like she is completely wrong...
If Sylphy wasn't Goddess, best wife ever and greatest of greatest being to ever existed(All Hail Sylphy🙌💚)she would have been proven right.
@WaterMage I'm not sure wtf you're talking about. First you say that Norn fixed Rudy and Paul's relationship then you start talking about Paul dying. Rudy went through multiple traumas ranging from Paul to Eris to Norn.

Norn hiding in her room triggered Rudy's trauma. Watch the show before spouting BS.

You excuse Norn for being a child but condone a 30 year old man punching their 7 year old in the face?

How can Rudeus address Norns problems if she doesn't communicate with him?

And you keep saying Norn is a child so it's excusable but Aisha is younger than Norn but much more level headed so your point is moot.

- A child will still want to help his parents more than caring about potential new born, it's basic human instincts

Rudy survived on his own since he was 7 years old. And no, humans will protect their young first before their parents.
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@WaterMage I'm not sure wtf you're talking about. First you say that Norn fixed Rudy and Paul's relationship then you start talking about Paul dying. Rudy went through multiple traumas ranging from Paul to Eris to Norn.

Norn hiding in her room triggered Rudy's trauma. Watch the show before spouting BS.

You excuse Norn for being a child but condone a 30 year old man punching their 7 year old in the face?

How can Rudeus address Norns problems if she doesn't communicate with him?

And you keep saying Norn is a child so it's excusable but Aisha is younger than Norn but much more level headed so your point is moot.

- A child will still want to help his parents more than caring about potential new born, it's basic human instincts

Rudy survived on his own since he was 7 years old. And no, humans will protect their young first before their parents.
@mechian Rudy never got traumatized due to Norn. He was upset that things went bad with Paul (which was fixed). Idk what you are yapping and I watched this 3 times + read the manga so I think I do have a good idea.
mechian said:
You excuse Norn for being a child but condone a 30 year old man punching their 7 year old in the face?

Because context...
Paul was forcing Rudeus to go see the world which helped him.
Rudy does have fair reasons to punch Paul, Paul deserve some of it. But from Norn's pov your absent brother comes and punching your father isn't a ideal look.
Hows that hard for people to understand..
mechian said:
How can Rudeus address Norns problems if she doesn't communicate with him?

Same way previous Rudeus failed with his big brother. Watch the episode (ig) "My Big brother" again. If you still don't understand the situation.

mechian said:
And you keep saying Norn is a child so it's excusable but Aisha is younger than Norn but much more level headed so your point is moot.

Because B is better so A must be shit.
Can't argue against such logic..
mechian said:
Rudy survived on his own since he was 7 years old.

Completely utterly false...
He would have died many times
- Hand of kidnappers of Eris (saved by Ghillane)
- Demon continent (protected by Ruijerd)
- Gallus (Doggo & plot armour)
- Orsted (Nanahoshi)
- Beats (Sara's party)
- Hydra (Paul)

Despite being such a talented reincarnated genius, this isn't easy as blaming Norn ?
mechian said:
humans will protect their young first before their parents

Lucy didn't died right? (So far anything bad didn't happen here).And Sylphy has plenty of people protecting in absence of him. So a father asking for help is a risk worth taking.
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@Alfilfieratore As in she's good at creating conflict and family drama to move the plot forward?

She has flaws. Characters with flaws are better than perfect ones. That's why Rudeus is the MC.

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