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Dec 10, 2024 6:13 AM
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Is it like this in the LN?
Last few episodes Rio move so slowly, for example in episode 10 they sensed demons inside the “safest “ building and instead of moving they just talk and wait, the demons go out of the building and as the strongest fastest person he act last…

I thought about reading the LN but is it like that there too?
Dec 10, 2024 6:39 AM
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I had the same feeling, he could prevent the whole incedent, if he just tries to take matters in his own hands. I don't know why, compaired to the first season, it seems like he plays the little lab-dog of those nobles. I hope the last few episodes will be better.
Dec 10, 2024 6:47 AM
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ApfelMyName said:
I had the same feeling, he could prevent the whole incedent, if he just tries to take matters in his own hands. I don't know why, compaired to the first season, it seems like he plays the little lab-dog of those nobles. I hope the last few episodes will be better.

He has always been playing the dog of the nobles : Remember the royal academy phase.
Dec 10, 2024 6:52 AM
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talortoo said:
Is it like this in the LN?
Last few episodes Rio move so slowly, for example in episode 10 they sensed demons inside the “safest “ building and instead of moving they just talk and wait, the demons go out of the building and as the strongest fastest person he act last…

I thought about reading the LN but is it like that there too?

rio be like :they kidnappes the princess!!!
Dec 10, 2024 6:53 AM
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ApfelMyName said:
I had the same feeling, he could prevent the whole incedent, if he just tries to take matters in his own hands. I don't know why, compaired to the first season, it seems like he plays the little lab-dog of those nobles. I hope the last few episodes will be better.

He has always been playing the dog of the nobles : Remember the royal academy phase.
@DragyG
At that point it was different because he was nobody without even power to back himself, and going against nobles in a country he lives could just gives problems
Now his act is strange because he doesn’t belong to that country (even a prince of a country himself) and have enough power to get himself from any situation. So it is strange how he just bow his head and act so nicely
Dec 10, 2024 6:59 AM
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talortoo said:
@DragyG
At that point it was different because he was nobody without even power to back himself, and going against nobles in a country he lives could just gives problems
Now his act is strange because he doesn’t belong to that country (even a prince of a country himself) and have enough power to get himself from any situation. So it is strange how he just bow his head and act so nicely

Rio is currying favours with Liselotte to gather information on Satsuki and Takahisa.

Rio still needs to prioritise Celia safety, assuming she is weak in combat.

In reality,
Dec 10, 2024 7:01 AM
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talortoo said:
@DragyG
At that point it was different because he was nobody without even power to back himself, and going against nobles in a country he lives could just gives problems
Now his act is strange because he doesn’t belong to that country (even a prince of a country himself) and have enough power to get himself from any situation. So it is strange how he just bow his head and act so nicely

Remember he can't say who he is.

He is literally hunted by a fox assassin girl. I mean she is now by his side but still the Huguenot family wants him dead. The Arbor family who seized power in Beltrum is after him too for both taking best girl away the day of her wedding supposed to make her a hostage against Huguenot family and for having made it's head (Charles) lose all power years before.
Dec 10, 2024 7:02 AM
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NewestPersonHere said:
talortoo said:
@DragyG
At that point it was different because he was nobody without even power to back himself, and going against nobles in a country he lives could just gives problems
Now his act is strange because he doesn’t belong to that country (even a prince of a country himself) and have enough power to get himself from any situation. So it is strange how he just bow his head and act so nicely

Rio is currying favours with Liselotte to gather information on Satsuki and Takahisa.

Rio still needs to prioritise Celia safety, assuming she is weak in combat.

In reality,

Celia is best girl and in that matter she is way above Aisha.
Dec 10, 2024 7:27 AM
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DragyG said:
NewestPersonHere said:

Rio is currying favours with Liselotte to gather information on Satsuki and Takahisa.

Rio still needs to prioritise Celia safety, assuming she is weak in combat.

In reality,

Celia is best girl and in that matter she is way above Aisha.

Yeah. I know Celia is best character in the whole LN. :)

Have to wait years for them to adapt Volume 19 or volume 21 when Celia becomes a chad.
Dec 10, 2024 7:41 AM
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DragyG said:
ApfelMyName said:
I had the same feeling, he could prevent the whole incedent, if he just tries to take matters in his own hands. I don't know why, compaired to the first season, it seems like he plays the little lab-dog of those nobles. I hope the last few episodes will be better.

He has always been playing the dog of the nobles : Remember the royal academy phase.

Thats true but back than, season 1, he didn't had the chance to do different, he was known by everyone and he wasn't that strong at the begining. Now he could esaly do as he pleases and leave
Dec 10, 2024 7:58 AM
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ApfelMyName said:
DragyG said:

He has always been playing the dog of the nobles : Remember the royal academy phase.

Thats true but back than, season 1, he didn't had the chance to do different, he was known by everyone and he wasn't that strong at the begining. Now he could esaly do as he pleases and leave

And what about

Christina?
Celia?
Flora?
Celia's dad?

Rio can't protect everyone just by yelling who he is and beat the shit out of the first person he sees.
Dec 10, 2024 8:06 AM
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NewestPersonHere said:
DragyG said:

Celia is best girl and in that matter she is way above Aisha.

Yeah. I know Celia is best character in the whole LN. :)

Have to wait years for them to adapt Volume 19 or volume 21 when Celia becomes a chad.

Celia => Cecilia => Chadlia

Gotta read the whole series fast enough then.
Dec 10, 2024 10:27 AM

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talortoo said:
Is it like this in the LN?
Last few episodes Rio move so slowly, for example in episode 10 they sensed demons inside the “safest “ building and instead of moving they just talk and wait, the demons go out of the building and as the strongest fastest person he act last…

I thought about reading the LN but is it like that there too?

1. Outside the palace was pretty calm, given everyone were unaware of whats happening inside. Nobody expected them to go stealth inflitration inside the palace. Even though Aishia sensed monsters within, it was too good to be true for the monsters to attack inside without wrecking havoc outside Hence he confirmed with Liselotte, if the palace was safe

2. Given the hero was present inside the palace, they figured he'll be able to manage it. Try to understand that we as viewers know the hero is incompetent. But you cant say the same to the characters in there. So they easily let their gaurd down.

3. When Rio saw Christina getting kidnapped, he wanted to jump in. But the distraction caused by the revenants forced him to stay there and control the situation, as he was trying to protect Celia and Liselotte along with evacuated people. Once he realized Celia can hold her own ground and Aishia can also focus on her side of battle due to this, he left off to get Christina and his revenge
Dec 10, 2024 11:26 AM

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talortoo said:
Is it like this in the LN?
Last few episodes Rio move so slowly, for example in episode 10 they sensed demons inside the “safest “ building and instead of moving they just talk and wait, the demons go out of the building and as the strongest fastest person he act last…

I thought about reading the LN but is it like that there too?

1. Outside the palace was pretty calm, given everyone were unaware of whats happening inside. Nobody expected them to go stealth inflitration inside the palace. Even though Aishia sensed monsters within, it was too good to be true for the monsters to attack inside without wrecking havoc outside Hence he confirmed with Liselotte, if the palace was safe

2. Given the hero was present inside the palace, they figured he'll be able to manage it. Try to understand that we as viewers know the hero is incompetent. But you cant say the same to the characters in there. So they easily let their gaurd down.

3. When Rio saw Christina getting kidnapped, he wanted to jump in. But the distraction caused by the revenants forced him to stay there and control the situation, as he was trying to protect Celia and Liselotte along with evacuated people. Once he realized Celia can hold her own ground and Aishia can also focus on her side of battle due to this, he left off to get Christina and his revenge
@V1P3R0P
1 - while just jumping in and breaking a window may be too much , the anime presented this as if they don’t care at all that they sense those demons, at least show some inner monologue some form of concern
And sending more soldiers in may not give any result if they will just die

2- true

3- iirc the demons first show up before they saw her being kidnapped, he could just kill all of them instead of going casual
Dec 10, 2024 2:51 PM

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talortoo said:
@V1P3R0P
1 - while just jumping in and breaking a window may be too much , the anime presented this as if they don’t care at all that they sense those demons, at least show some inner monologue some form of concern
And sending more soldiers in may not give any result if they will just die

2- true

3- iirc the demons first show up before they saw her being kidnapped, he could just kill all of them instead of going casual

1. Because, as I explained in point 2,the hero was with them and expected him to take care of things if it went south. And it's not like they were having a picnic down there. They probably would have been discussing what next to do. How to secure the parameter where people have evacuated, how to repel the invasion etc... Though I agree they could have shown it in a different way.

3. He cant use an area attack as it could also hit the people around him. His hesitation was also due to, people being around and in danger....
Dec 10, 2024 8:46 PM
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talortoo said:
Is it like this in the LN?
Last few episodes Rio move so slowly, for example in episode 10 they sensed demons inside the “safest “ building and instead of moving they just talk and wait, the demons go out of the building and as the strongest fastest person he act last…

I thought about reading the LN but is it like that there too?

I think they are Ghouls...
Dec 12, 2024 2:32 AM

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Two answers
1. The whole plot is kinda meh..
2. Rio is a terrible mc

Rio literally didn't give a f about Aisha warning, kept thinking Celia is some weak damsel in distress. When Flora was captured he just stood without again trusting his partners.

And because it's in this thread for some reason.
Aisha best girl no cap, if you disagree you are just wrong.
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Dec 12, 2024 9:54 PM
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talortoo said:
Is it like this in the LN?
Last few episodes Rio move so slowly, for example in episode 10 they sensed demons inside the “safest “ building and instead of moving they just talk and wait, the demons go out of the building and as the strongest fastest person he act last…

I thought about reading the LN but is it like that there too?

rio be like :they kidnappes the princess!!!
@yummy_W4ffle lmaoo
Dec 13, 2024 12:32 AM
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that kinda true we're not gonna lie💀
Dec 13, 2024 3:21 PM

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fr I was yelling at my monitor like wtf

"Oh there's monsters inside where the princess is? Cool. Let's just calmly chat here for 10 minutes and not do fuck all."

"It's right above us and I could just fly up there in like under 2 seconds and end them within the next 2? Nah I'm good. How about some tea?"

"It's Princess Flora being kidnapped right in front of us WITH the guy I've sworn revenge on! Let me stand here stunned with my dick in my hand for 3 minutes instead of doing something about it. Then I'll half crouch like I'm going to do something then still not do anything. I'm sure dozens of guards, Aisha, Celia, and Lise's personal attendants can't handle a few trash mobs. Yeah surely that's higher priority. Oh they're good? Oh shit where'd they go?"

Someone else: "Go"

"Huh? What? hurrr" I think they missed the animation here where he should be drooling with his brain completely shut off.

Still stands around stunned like a total fucking moron. Walks slow as possible, stops, talking to everyone as casually as possible.

Meanwhile the other people...

"I need your spear."

"Huh? Whaa...?"

"Your spear, I need it."

"Your spear Chloe, give it to her. What are you doing?"

"Huuuh? Oooh..."

It's like everyone's high af and at 1/1000th of the mental processing power they should be using.
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Dec 13, 2024 9:19 PM

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Tiffanys said:
fr I was yelling at my monitor like wtf

"Oh there's monsters inside where the princess is? Cool. Let's just calmly chat here for 10 minutes and not do fuck all."

"It's right above us and I could just fly up there in like under 2 seconds and end them within the next 2? Nah I'm good. How about some tea?"

"It's Princess Flora being kidnapped right in front of us WITH the guy I've sworn revenge on! Let me stand here stunned with my dick in my hand for 3 minutes instead of doing something about it. Then I'll half crouch like I'm going to do something then still not do anything. I'm sure dozens of guards, Aisha, Celia, and Lise's personal attendants can't handle a few trash mobs. Yeah surely that's higher priority. Oh they're good? Oh shit where'd they go?"

Someone else: "Go"

"Huh? What? hurrr" I think they missed the animation here where he should be drooling with his brain completely shut off.

Still stands around stunned like a total fucking moron. Walks slow as possible, stops, talking to everyone as casually as possible.

Meanwhile the other people...

"I need your spear."

"Huh? Whaa...?"

"Your spear, I need it."

"Your spear Chloe, give it to her. What are you doing?"

"Huuuh? Oooh..."

It's like everyone's high af and at 1/1000th of the mental processing power they should be using.

Yes, everything and everyone is doing the bare minimum—whether it’s fighting monsters, making decisions, or evacuating common people. It would be funny if this were a parody anime, but as it stands, it’s just infuriating.
Dec 13, 2024 9:22 PM

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ApfelMyName said:
I had the same feeling, he could prevent the whole incedent, if he just tries to take matters in his own hands. I don't know why, compaired to the first season, it seems like he plays the little lab-dog of those nobles. I hope the last few episodes will be better.

Exactly, that’s what I feel. He’s always ready to bow down and wag his tail for the nobles.

The entire season has revolved around this—him meeting nobles, being endlessly thanked, and then brushing it off with, "I’m nobody special, everyone helped me beat the monsters, so it’s not a big deal."
Dec 13, 2024 10:29 PM
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talortoo said:
Is it like this in the LN?
Last few episodes Rio move so slowly, for example in episode 10 they sensed demons inside the “safest “ building and instead of moving they just talk and wait, the demons go out of the building and as the strongest fastest person he act last…

I thought about reading the LN but is it like that there too?

1. Outside the palace was pretty calm, given everyone were unaware of whats happening inside. Nobody expected them to go stealth inflitration inside the palace. Even though Aishia sensed monsters within, it was too good to be true for the monsters to attack inside without wrecking havoc outside Hence he confirmed with Liselotte, if the palace was safe

2. Given the hero was present inside the palace, they figured he'll be able to manage it. Try to understand that we as viewers know the hero is incompetent. But you cant say the same to the characters in there. So they easily let their gaurd down.

3. When Rio saw Christina getting kidnapped, he wanted to jump in. But the distraction caused by the revenants forced him to stay there and control the situation, as he was trying to protect Celia and Liselotte along with evacuated people. Once he realized Celia can hold her own ground and Aishia can also focus on her side of battle due to this, he left off to get Christina and his revenge
@V1P3R0P he wasn’t forced to stay the guards had it handled and it was obviously a diversion.
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Everything in the LN feels more urgent, or is happening a lot quicker.

In the LN when Haruto reaches the mansion he immediately notices monster inside, but he he thinks that telling Lieselotte wouldn't really help as he believes that she has no reason to believe him and even explaining Aisha would prolly lead to confusion and not change the situation quick enough, he then tells her that he senses something up there and Lieselotte replies with "okay I'll send a servant to check" but then the explosion happens and like a sentence later Lucius runs out the front doors.

He wasn't standing on a wall, he was sprinting, Lieselotte's soldiers tried to surround him but he was so fast that he broke through easily. He mocked everyone on his way out the front gate while Flora was screaming... and then he was gone.

Rio had barely any time to react, he recognized the voice, but the revenants were already on the attack (they were also all coming through the front doors AND from the hole like in the show), there was more chaos and Haruto, after Celia gave him the okay to chase after Lucius, just took off running using his wind arts to accelerate his body further. He didn't fly in a very slow manner (it looks so bad in the show), he leapt up into the air after he had the trace of Lucius and immediately saw him in the distance, then used his wind arts to propel himself forward while falling down.

If you want to read the chapter to get a feel for it, it's v08 Chapter 8: Daybreak Rondo.

The pacing in the show feels not right, everything is slow... I blame it on the animation. Panning shots, stills, slow movements, this all doesn't help when a scene is supposed to feel urgent.

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