The Hype is Unjustified

Nov 2, 4:40 AM

#51

Lord_Volt

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Cope harder !!!!!!

Nov 2, 4:40 AM

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Cyrose

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Reply to n0bodYy3

I agree with literally everything you’ve said here

@n0bodYy3 thank you

Nov 2, 4:40 AM

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SATAN19

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I guess the only lesson you should learn here is to not trust random strangers on the internet.

It's not the series' fault for getting hype. It's not the fans' fault to hype it up. It's your fault for trusting the hype and expecting things from a fucking anime. I hope you grow up a little.

Nov 2, 4:46 AM

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SoloNecromancer

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You need to go Outside bro...😒

Anime Rules the world

Nov 2, 4:46 AM

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It's a little bit overrated. The rating on mal is completely exaggerated and when people act like it revolutionised storytelling I can only shake my head (because it's really not THAT crazy). But I still gave it a 9 and I think it's peak (top 20 for me).

Nov 2, 4:47 AM

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From what you’ve shared, it seems like you have a strong preference for stories with real depth and complexity. You’re someone who looks for characters and narratives that go beyond surface-level tropes or predictable arcs. When you watch a show or read a story, you want it to challenge you, not just entertain you. You don’t settle for a story that only seems “mature” or meaningful on the outside—you want something that truly digs into real issues, philosophies, or emotions.

Your comparisons to Vagabond and Berserk, for example, show that you’re drawn to stories with layers of psychological and philosophical depth, where characters face moral ambiguity, personal struggle, and growth. It’s clear that you have a sharp eye for storytelling elements and enjoy breaking down what makes one show or piece of media resonate more than another. You’re analytical, and you pay close attention to details, like the quality of a show’s power system, the pacing, and even genre conventions.

It seems you also have a certain skepticism toward narratives that feel like they’re trying to seem deep but lack authenticity. When you felt disappointed in Frieren, it wasn’t just because the show didn’t meet your standards, but because it didn’t bring anything fresh to the table for you. To you, it’s important that a story isn’t just a repeat of what’s been done before. Your standards are high because you know other stories have handled similar themes in more satisfying or thought-provoking ways.

At the same time, you seem to have a bit of a love-hate relationship with fan culture. You’ve noticed how some fans can be overly defensive or even dismissive of different viewpoints, especially when they suggest that someone “doesn’t get it” or lacks the maturity to appreciate a story. You don’t seem to take well to this kind of gatekeeping. Instead, you prefer to keep your standards high and avoid getting caught up in discussions that, to you, might feel superficial or uncritical.

You also seem to gravitate toward stories that have a slower pace, where there’s space for atmosphere, tension, and character development to build naturally. It’s as if you’re comfortable with ambiguity and appreciate it when a show leaves room for interpretation instead of spelling everything out. Fast-paced action or intense drama might not be what you seek as much as a story that gives you time to think, reflect, and draw your own conclusions.

It sounds like you have a really refined approach to media. You don’t just watch a show or read a story for escapism—you want to feel that it respects your intelligence and pushes boundaries. You’re looking for authentic exploration of complex themes, not just artificial markers of maturity.

Nov 2, 4:59 AM

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Reply to egosumjkm

From what you’ve shared, it seems like you have a strong preference for stories with real depth and complexity. You’re someone who looks for characters and narratives that go beyond surface-level tropes or predictable arcs. When you watch a show or read a story, you want it to challenge you, not just entertain you. You don’t settle for a story that only seems “mature” or meaningful on the outside—you want something that truly digs into real issues, philosophies, or emotions.

Your comparisons to Vagabond and Berserk, for example, show that you’re drawn to stories with layers of psychological and philosophical depth, where characters face moral ambiguity, personal struggle, and growth. It’s clear that you have a sharp eye for storytelling elements and enjoy breaking down what makes one show or piece of media resonate more than another. You’re analytical, and you pay close attention to details, like the quality of a show’s power system, the pacing, and even genre conventions.

It seems you also have a certain skepticism toward narratives that feel like they’re trying to seem deep but lack authenticity. When you felt disappointed in Frieren, it wasn’t just because the show didn’t meet your standards, but because it didn’t bring anything fresh to the table for you. To you, it’s important that a story isn’t just a repeat of what’s been done before. Your standards are high because you know other stories have handled similar themes in more satisfying or thought-provoking ways.

At the same time, you seem to have a bit of a love-hate relationship with fan culture. You’ve noticed how some fans can be overly defensive or even dismissive of different viewpoints, especially when they suggest that someone “doesn’t get it” or lacks the maturity to appreciate a story. You don’t seem to take well to this kind of gatekeeping. Instead, you prefer to keep your standards high and avoid getting caught up in discussions that, to you, might feel superficial or uncritical.

You also seem to gravitate toward stories that have a slower pace, where there’s space for atmosphere, tension, and character development to build naturally. It’s as if you’re comfortable with ambiguity and appreciate it when a show leaves room for interpretation instead of spelling everything out. Fast-paced action or intense drama might not be what you seek as much as a story that gives you time to think, reflect, and draw your own conclusions.

It sounds like you have a really refined approach to media. You don’t just watch a show or read a story for escapism—you want to feel that it respects your intelligence and pushes boundaries. You’re looking for authentic exploration of complex themes, not just artificial markers of maturity.

@egosumjkm Bro used ChatGPT to respond 💀

Nov 2, 5:05 AM

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It’s one thing to not enjoy the anime yourself, but calling the hype not justified when it sits at the top of MAL ratings is just plain stupid. Just cause you didn’t enjoy it, doesn’t mean others shouldn’t either. There’s a reason it’s that highly rated…

Nov 2, 5:13 AM

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Cyrose said:
@SCAREDgorilla

Shield Hero season one brought back my childhood memories. Newer Seasons aren’t that good unfortunately. What does this has to do with the topic? Everyone has their opinions and favorites.

You said it yourself, everyone has their own opinions and favorites. So why do you feel the need to act like you are better since you don’t like Frieren? Maybe if you stated your opinions as opinions instead of facts people would actually take you seriously.

Nov 2, 5:23 AM

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frieren beyond journey power system is generic, but the anime itself it not supposed to be battle shonen, so it doesn't matter . Why are you comparing it to hxh's power system

fern is immature, yes, she 18

yes, it is aimed towards a younger audience its shouen meaning it aimed towards younger boys

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Nov 2, 5:25 AM

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? At times like these, I wish I could use curse words. It's fun and all to argue with people with low-level social intelligence but it requires curse words to be truly fun.

Nov 2, 5:36 AM

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I completely agree with bro, Frieren is overhyped af. I still don't understand how it's number one above Steins;Gate and Full Metal Alchemist. The characters are just so robot-like it's crazy. The modern anime audience clearly doesn't know what is true peak. Like there wasn't one hype moment, one crazy plot twist that made me stare at the screen like 'what the fuck just happaned'

Nov 2, 6:08 AM

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Cyrose said:
@SCAREDgorilla

Shield Hero season one brought back my childhood memories. Newer Seasons aren’t that good unfortunately. What does this has to do with the topic? Everyone has their opinions and favorites.

You said it yourself, everyone has their own opinions and favorites. So why do you feel the need to act like you are better since you don’t like Frieren? Maybe if you stated your opinions as opinions instead of facts people would actually take you seriously.

@SCAREDgorilla

I just said my opinion which is in fact true to me. That doesn’t necessarily make my opinion as fact over your opinion. Frieren is medicore. = my opinion. ≠ fact. Do I think it is true? Yes. Still no fact there. You brought up Shield Hero just because it is now hated enough and thought it should do me dirty. You can hate it, it never be a justified fact of truth. Just an opinion.

Nov 2, 6:09 AM

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I’m sorry but like that is completely cap

Nov 2, 6:15 AM

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Donuttoot

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ok...................

Nov 2, 6:19 AM

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The hype was and still is real. It's just not the hype for you, and that's okay.

Nov 2, 6:25 AM

#67

Spunkert

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I don't think the salty fanboys are smart enough to read a whole wall of text.

Nov 2, 6:43 AM

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ptero93

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dumbest thread I've probably ever read besides that one guy asking if re:zero had loli fanservice in it (he was seeking it, not hoping to avoid it)

Nov 2, 7:09 AM

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This thread is still up? Okay then.

Nov 2, 7:17 AM

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I get attacked by outlaws or animals every 2 minutes in rdr2 if that’s slow pacing you’re cooked.

Nov 2, 7:18 AM

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Chewbaccaccino said:
Pretty much the title. I like the music and animation, but that’s kind of it. It feels like the show is aimed towards a younger audience, perhaps one that wants to feel more mature than they are. I’ve seen about 13 or 14 episodes, and while the plot was getting a little more exciting, it kind of just reverted to being about uninteresting things. The characters are rather dull in my opinion, with Frieren being a bit ungrateful or edgy (kind of emo teenager vibe to a degree). Fern is kind of immature as well with her disdain towards Stark. Stark is also uninteresting. So uninteresting in fact I don’t actually have anything to say about him. The power system is not unique, since it deals with a generic concept called “mana” and ends up feeling like a watered down nen. The story is kind of generic too (or at least has generic concepts)- it has the common demon king villain and fantasy setting with magic (specifically wizard/mage type), dragons, demons, etc. The concept of different lifespans is not too special as someone who has seen Maquia. Overall, everything I have seen in this show I feel has been done better by others. I’ll put a list at the end. Checking social media I was weirdly repulsed by someone comparing this to Vagabond and Berserk. I shouldn’t have been because it’s just someone online though:P. People who say you have Shonen brainrot for not liking it or aren’t mature enough are likely projecting and haven’t actually consumed a meaningful book, movie, or show.

Series with better execution of the things Frieren is praised for (and regarded as the best anime of all time for)

Down to earth meaningful stuff: Vagabond, Real, Red Dead Redemption 2

Slow pacing and/or little action: Real, Vagabond, RDR2, Better Call Saul, Monster, Vinland Saga (post prologue), Steins;Gate, Breaking Bad, Sherlock (BBC), etc.

Power system: Jojo’s, HxH, FMA

Fantasy setting: Lord of the Rings, any fromsoft title, Zelda

I'll raise an argument against a couple of your points. My knowledge comes as someone who is up to date with the anime, unlike you (though I can't know for sure if you're instead further along in the manga).

My biggest defence is in regards to the enemy and power system: season 1 (the only released content) does not once delve properly into the demon king. We KNOW the demon king is defeated, rather that Frieren is simply wanting to relive her memories with her old group from their journey to the demon king. We don't once see them actually fight the demon king, which I think may be a new concept for anime of the past decade (though there's still a lot I have not seen). For the power system, yes I understand how you compare it to nen, but Frieren is not learning a small handful of spells: she's collecting spells from the most mundane every day spell that could be recreated using pure, easy physical effort, to spells capable of defeating creatures stronger than demons. A lot of the story of Frieren tells of not only cherishing the present and your current capabilities, but treasuring your past, the connections you make with those you think make no impact in your life, and the skills you garner (as well as the skills you train onto others to give them a better understanding of the world and relationships).

Another point you brought up were the personalities of the characters, and I'll just talk about Stark in particular given your disdain for him as a potential character: the story of Frieren, I believe, is meant to be relatable, primarily through the characters, whether they be human, or demon, or elf or dwarf. While Frieren and Fern dwell more on the side of relationships, Stark dwells on insecurities. Due to the monotone speech, at least in the dubbed, the fear and anxiety of characters is harder to discern, but even that may breach into the topic of insecurities. Stark is fearful, whether it be when fighting dragons, or suffering Fern's wrath, and unlike other animes where it's the power of friendship or simply an abrupt rise in power that helps their characters overcome their fears, it's Stark's renewal of faith in his own abilities and his desire to prove his master wrong that make him relatable. It's not as if his fears suddenly disappear after an event, and he doesn't continue to rely on others for support unless absolutely necessary (like seen at the end of the first season), but he is able to stand up for himself more. This ties in with the nature of a human's pride and anxiety, especially for the range of 10 year olds to 30 year olds (generally speaking).

I think you're seeing this anime for the more intense scenes rather than getting to know the characters on a psychological level. Yes, the animation and music are great. I love the music, it's so unique for an anime. But I think it's values are mostly in how you connect with the characters, especially Fern and Stark, while they travel alongside Frieren and gradually improve themselves. It's why such a big span of years, several hundreds of them, are outlined. Most shonen animes show improvement in as much as a few years, like My Hero Academia, Naruto, Blue Exorcist, Attack on Titan, etc. while Frieren takes it slow and matches more closely with human lifestyles while still giving a fantasy vibe.

Nov 2, 7:26 AM

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Chewbaccaccino said:
Pretty much the title. I like the music and animation, but that’s kind of it. It feels like the show is aimed towards a younger audience, perhaps one that wants to feel more mature than they are. I’ve seen about 13 or 14 episodes, and while the plot was getting a little more exciting, it kind of just reverted to being about uninteresting things. The characters are rather dull in my opinion, with Frieren being a bit ungrateful or edgy (kind of emo teenager vibe to a degree). Fern is kind of immature as well with her disdain towards Stark. Stark is also uninteresting. So uninteresting in fact I don’t actually have anything to say about him. The power system is not unique, since it deals with a generic concept called “mana” and ends up feeling like a watered down nen. The story is kind of generic too (or at least has generic concepts)- it has the common demon king villain and fantasy setting with magic (specifically wizard/mage type), dragons, demons, etc. The concept of different lifespans is not too special as someone who has seen Maquia. Overall, everything I have seen in this show I feel has been done better by others. I’ll put a list at the end. Checking social media I was weirdly repulsed by someone comparing this to Vagabond and Berserk. I shouldn’t have been because it’s just someone online though:P. People who say you have Shonen brainrot for not liking it or aren’t mature enough are likely projecting and haven’t actually consumed a meaningful book, movie, or show.

Series with better execution of the things Frieren is praised for (and regarded as the best anime of all time for)

Down to earth meaningful stuff: Vagabond, Real, Red Dead Redemption 2

Slow pacing and/or little action: Real, Vagabond, RDR2, Better Call Saul, Monster, Vinland Saga (post prologue), Steins;Gate, Breaking Bad, Sherlock (BBC), etc.

Power system: Jojo’s, HxH, FMA

Fantasy setting: Lord of the Rings, any fromsoft title, Zelda

Fair enough, everyone has different taste after all

And yeah, it is targeted to a younger audience, it's a shounen, target audience teenagers

Nov 2, 7:37 AM

#73

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Remember, in this world, there are more uneducated people than the educated (every aspect) ones. If it is so the world is already so peaceful rn.

So they just rate or act based on feelings and mostly not objectivity standard so I am certainly that rooting on ur Argument. "Frieren is just good stuff or decent, but not on the GOAT stuff."

Explain it to them is just wasting energy cuz most of it is just pretentious people. That's why there's an Academy Award for Anime, so they could get rid of that type of people. And hoping they're gonna agree with u is just useless cuz they do not even care/hear bout themselves why do they need to hear some ranting that they do not even know?

Nov 2, 7:43 AM

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Chewbaccaccino said:
@IhnalakoKaina what a weird comment. I’m making comparisons for the purpose of proving that there are shows or media that do what frieren does better, and I did in fact offer critique of the show for 80-90% of what I mentioned. I think you’re projecting random things as my motives. It was merely to mention things that satisfied me more than Frieren. Shit, Tomo Chan and Erased were more fun to watch than Frieren, but I don’t think they necessarily did those things better.

You took a shallow look at a show and therefore you think it's shallow. There's no way that you can say in good faith that tomo chan was more entertaining than frieren. You can't articulate why frieren is nothing special by any means other than "frieren is edgy, fern is boring, stark is boring, I've seen fantasy, demon lord, magic, and so on elsewhere".

The show is just about them walking around and going to where the demon lord's castle is? That's what you seem to have gotten out of it.

Your critique is not about an aspect of the show that you dislike but that other people might find acceptable or even good, but instead based on what you weren't able to notice and claim to not even exist, while the rest of us were.

I don't like Mushoku tensei, I find it too gross and depraved. I don't like Berserk, because gore is not my thing. But neither of those statements deny the reason other people like those shows in spite of the things I observed and indicated or even because of them, i.e. people who like depraved shit or gore. I don't see the same with your critique, as if you knew or were aware of something that the overwhelming majority of people aren't. What's weird about this?

@IhnalakoKaina

IhnalakoKaina said:
There's no way that you can say in good faith that tomo chan was more entertaining than frieren

So because someone enjoyed a show you don't particularly like (Tomo-chan) more than one you love (Frieren) they can't possibly be saying that in good faith? They can't possibly simply have different taste from yours?

What a great display of maturuty

(And before you start shitting on me as well, this is coming from someone who much prefered Frieren to Tomo-chan)

Nov 2, 7:45 AM

#75

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ok, that's a lot of nothing you wrote there

Nov 2, 7:51 AM

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You singled out elements and compared it with like a dozen other franchises, yet which series brings all these aspects and more together? This kind of not so well thought out evaluation screams salty bait.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron

Nov 2, 8:04 AM

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Well, everyone has own opinion. For me Frieren become the best anime fantasy and the best anime of all time besides monster, after the last episode came out, even though my inner hippie was crying. I don't think Sousou no Frieren is immature, but I can agree with characters. Fern and stark is immature, because they are teenagers, which is pretty obvious. Frieren is more complicated, because she isn't human. She decided to not waste a time, to better know humans. In order to not regret again. She is just starting to learn how act humanish, so she could appear immature or just being immature, toward humans eyes. For me who watched a lot of fantasy and isekai( vast majority of the isekai genre is also fantasy) Frieren was refreshing series, even though Basics of the world presented are clichéd to the point of pain, at least that's I felt this show. I don't think that is required to being original as much as possible in every aspect, to be good show. Of course it is advantage, but there's no good series with well written plot and characters.

Additionally for those who can't rip that other have audacity to have different opinion and they give sign of this. Please STOP Aggravate opinion about Sousou no Frieren fanbase. That's their take and that's it. I don't want to Sousou no Frieren fanbase has reputation "those freaks that bits everyone who dare not wallow in it", like FMAB or something.

MemowynekromantaNov 2, 8:55 AM

Nov 2, 8:11 AM

#78

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So i get that this isn’t your cup of tea, but if you could just write an essay going into detail about all those things you listed at the end, specifically about how exactly they’re comparable to Frieren and better executed, that would be great.

Cold-hearted orb that rules the night

Removes the colours from our sight

Red is grey and yellow white

But we decide which is right

And which is an illusion.

Nov 2, 8:22 AM

#79

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I get wanting to have a discussion, but I’ve never watched a show and thought “I need to tell a bunch of people why their opinion of a show is wrong”. All this site is, is an aggregate of user scores. It happened to resonate with a bunch of people, and the score reflects that. It’s not even indicative of individual people’s favorite anime: I can have multiple scores of 10 in my list, but that doesn’t mean giving Frieren a 10 makes it my favorite.

That aside, people complain about it not having an intricate power system, or scores of characters like many fantasy stories do. That’s not the point of this story, and I think that’s refreshing for the genre. It’s a simple story of what it’s like to have an immortal character who will continue to lose people and therefore has closed herself off and comes off as cold and uncaring. But then slowly learns to treasure these connections and wanted to retrace her previous journey’s steps with a new set of companions. It’s not that deep, but I think it’s handled really well and is almost a comfort show-something I didn’t think I’d find in a shounen fantasy show.

Nov 2, 8:29 AM

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And now say this without crying qbd yapping 😭

Nov 2, 8:41 AM

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Funny enough. I liked when Frieren was doing unnecessary things. I got so sad when they actually went toward the main plot because seeing Frieren recollect and Fern and Stark fight over one dumb thing or they'd meet another character was so interesting to me. I loved the random encounters this slow burner fantasy presents and with the animation, music and voice acting. It just hits even hard.

Not at one moment did i feel, Frieren missed the mark tbf. Everything as dull and maybe meaningless as it may be, felt so fresh to me. Especially coming off previous anime seasons riddled with shonen, this was a slice of fresh air.

Nov 2, 9:09 AM

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Bruh, this is a public forum. The ratings are voted for by majority. If you don't think it deserves the hype that's fine, but won't change that waaay more people think it does. Saying that they've never experienced better is just elitist mentality imo.

Nov 2, 9:29 AM

#83

Chewbaccaccino

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There are probably too many replies than I have energy or time for at this point, but I want to thank the users who wrote out thoughtful comments, both agreeing and disagreeing.

Nov 2, 9:31 AM

#84

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you just yapped....like it's okay if you find it mid - but that's just you

Nov 2, 9:33 AM

#85

glasssmoon

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I gotchu bro, everyone is wrong sometimes.

Nov 2, 9:50 AM

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Memowynekromanta

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Chewbaccaccino said:
There are probably too many replies than I have energy or time for at this point, but I want to thank the users who wrote out thoughtful comments, both agreeing and disagreeing.

Like I said, I totally disagree with you, but I respect that. And irritates me, when others fans freaks out because some have audacity to not like it.

Nov 2, 9:51 AM

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DigiCat said:
@IhnalakoKaina

IhnalakoKaina said:
There's no way that you can say in good faith that tomo chan was more entertaining than frieren

So because someone enjoyed a show you don't particularly like (Tomo-chan) more than one you love (Frieren) they can't possibly be saying that in good faith? They can't possibly simply have different taste from yours?

What a great display of maturuty

(And before you start shitting on me as well, this is coming from someone who much prefered Frieren to Tomo-chan)

Uh, no. It's just that by his own standard of judging how much a show deserves hype and praise, tomo chan should be low as hell on that list. You know, since comedy, romance and drama in a school rom com has been done before and specifically done much better and all.

Idgaf what you or he likes or dislikes, but if you are the ones contradicting yourselves or claiming that all of us are wrong for hyping up frieren, well... who's the immature one then?

Nov 2, 10:00 AM

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Chewbaccaccino said:
Pretty much the title. I like the music and animation, but that’s kind of it. It feels like the show is aimed towards a younger audience, perhaps one that wants to feel more mature than they are. I’ve seen about 13 or 14 episodes, and while the plot was getting a little more exciting, it kind of just reverted to being about uninteresting things. The characters are rather dull in my opinion, with Frieren being a bit ungrateful or edgy (kind of emo teenager vibe to a degree). Fern is kind of immature as well with her disdain towards Stark. Stark is also uninteresting. So uninteresting in fact I don’t actually have anything to say about him. The power system is not unique, since it deals with a generic concept called “mana” and ends up feeling like a watered down nen. The story is kind of generic too (or at least has generic concepts)- it has the common demon king villain and fantasy setting with magic (specifically wizard/mage type), dragons, demons, etc. The concept of different lifespans is not too special as someone who has seen Maquia. Overall, everything I have seen in this show I feel has been done better by others. I’ll put a list at the end. Checking social media I was weirdly repulsed by someone comparing this to Vagabond and Berserk. I shouldn’t have been because it’s just someone online though:P. People who say you have Shonen brainrot for not liking it or aren’t mature enough are likely projecting and haven’t actually consumed a meaningful book, movie, or show.

Series with better execution of the things Frieren is praised for (and regarded as the best anime of all time for)

Down to earth meaningful stuff: Vagabond, Real, Red Dead Redemption 2

Slow pacing and/or little action: Real, Vagabond, RDR2, Better Call Saul, Monster, Vinland Saga (post prologue), Steins;Gate, Breaking Bad, Sherlock (BBC), etc.

Power system: Jojo’s, HxH, FMA

Fantasy setting: Lord of the Rings, any fromsoft title, Zelda

You know it’s getting really tired someone people are just hating on frieren just because it’s popular anyone who doesn’t think free frieren. Deserves all the hype. You are an outer touch simpleton who cannot enjoy a phenomenal anime like this all they have to say to you is stick with Main stream if that’s what you like. But other than that go away, we don’t want you here

Nov 2, 10:00 AM

#89

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there's no reason to write a forum post about this months after the finale except if you are looking to rage bait. This could've just been a review.

and comparing frieren to better call Saul, breaking bad, and Sherlock is a bit ridiculous honestly. If the basis for that comparison is they're both "slower paced" or more character driven then a million shows can be compared to frieren, because besides that vague criteria they got very little in common.

On that point, you can choose any show in existence and point to another show that did an aspect of it better. No one show is perfect in all its aspects. Your favorite shows and the shows you suggested each have aspects that other shows did better. It's a bad faith argument. Hell, the suggestions you made aren't even bad. They're really good. And yet, I think Frieren did many aspects better than all of them. Because it was trying to do something different than any of them. What I see from the show is the tale of an elf whose trying to learn the value of time and spending it with those she cares about. Most of the shows you suggested don't have that same kind of theme, besides maybe Red Dead, but even then it's theme is still different imo.

Also, to the people balking at the idea of comparing a videogame to a show, some videogames have better, more meaningful stories than a lot of shows. I mean, we're seeing more and more adaptations nowadays. Halo (that tv show sucked balls though), last of us, god of war, red dead redemption, the Witcher, life is strange. If a game takes its story seriously I don't see why we can't too.

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Nov 2, 10:01 AM

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@DigiCat Furthermore, he brought up his enjoyment of tomo chan just to underline his lack of enjoyment of frieren. There's no way anybody can take that seriously. You realize that he's basically using tomo chan as a shoe to step on frieren? As in, "frieren is so unremarkable, so much so that an unremarkable show like tomo chan is more entertaining than frieren". And I'm immature for noticing? okei

Nov 2, 10:04 AM

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Cyrose said:
Also, most people will not agree with you. Even though you are right.

are you really calling a subjective opinion "right"? How old are you?

Nov 2, 10:14 AM

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Bruv stop yapping

Nov 2, 10:16 AM

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It seems a lot of users on MAL disagree.

Nov 2, 10:21 AM

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demon slayer is also popular especially in japan despite the hate it gets that its mid so who says critics like you represents what the mainstream fans want? and do note that frieren is also popular in japan

Nov 2, 10:23 AM

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Cyrose said:
Also, most people will not agree with you. Even though you are right.

are you really calling a subjective opinion "right"? How old are you?

@Master_Chef these how old are you wisecracks are timeless.

And yes, my opinion is right. How can it be wrong if I believe in my rightness? If you form an opinion you believe it’s right or wrong?

Nov 2, 10:24 AM

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I just came here to support your opinion. I've been watching anime for 20+ years and this is the first and only show that I call "overrated".

I suspect the main reason this anime is so absurdly highly rated is the herd effect driven by social media (especially Youtubers/Tiktokers), influencing a huge mass of socially/emotionally deprived young people with no intellectual self-esteem (not an insult). This is an increasingly common phenomenon called Mass Formation. The show itself is very shallow and unoriginal (I just watched Akatsuki no Yona OVA - exactly the same story!).

But keep in mind that saying this in public will really raise the hive mind's hackles, as you may already be noticing.

Nov 2, 10:26 AM

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Cyrose said:
Also, most people will not agree with you. Even though you are right.

are you really calling a subjective opinion "right"? How old are you?

@Master_Chef also stop being a bot and boosting Frieren.

Nov 2, 10:56 AM

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fuck off, it’s dope

Nov 2, 10:59 AM

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You are entitled to your wrong opinion. Nice range bait post, tho.

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Someone who has seen a hundred anime and has Kanye in favourite people wants to tell us we’re all wrong cos he knows better. Wish I never opened and read this facecious load of shit.

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