duke is not a pedo BUT...

ktg said:
So you can "legally" assault someone if she's awake? Interesting idea.

Kitsune_089 said:

I meant if she consented nerd, which she *probably* would

FutoiOtaku said:
So in your ridiculous view, the princess in sleeping beauty would never get woken. Great logic. Modern woke principles are getting out of control.

ktg said:

This is a bad take, because it is also true for couples. You cannot consent because you are asleep, but you would likely consent if you are awake.
So if it's not an assault in one of these cases, then it isn't in the other one either.

Kitsune_089 said:

how tf is that related

Kitsune_089 said:

But these 2 characters are not couples yet?

ktg said:

So? Even if 2 people are a couple, they do not necessarily consent to everything, so it doesn't matter if they are a couple or not.

I'm just saying that based on your logic, you cannot do anything to your partner while they are asleep, because they did not consent.

FutoiOtaku said:

Well, I’ve been married longer than you’ve been alive and honestly if every time we wanted to do something intimate we needed to ask first, our lives would be dull as fuck. The best way to wake up is with your partner kissing you or better still doing something erotic to you. Permission for every single act would be the best way to kill a healthy relationship.

ktg said:

Then according to the OP, you assaulted your partner. You should be in jail.

FutoiOtaku said:

You really can’t see it? A sleeping girl can only be woken with a kiss, but in 2024 it has to be consensual so tough shit girlie you’re staying in dreamland!
In this a sick girl needs medicine, a guy only 3 years older than her delivers it by mouth because she can’t drink it herself when unconscious. Yes, even I see it as a bit creepy, but in this anime it’s used to move a possible future romance forward. You guys need to stop looking so hard for ethical problems in fiction, it’s ridiculous!

ktg said:

So? Even if 2 people are a couple, they do not necessarily consent to everything, so it doesn't matter if they are a couple or not.

I'm just saying that based on your logic, you cannot do anything to your partner while they are asleep, because they did not consent.

Kitsune_089 said:

being a couple literally means you consent

Kitsune_089 said:

how about just using the glass and pouring the medicine to her mouth?

yagxr said:
he’s 15+. 1000% a pedo.

Moppit said:
If I remember right if someone can't drink medicine or liquid on their own. You don't want to feed it to them from cup to mouth. They won't drink it or you will just drown them. You have to force it down their throat instead. Still I'll admit that scene was still ridiculous.

ktg said:

Cool, so you think the wife gave her consent to this (and to everything else), because they were married: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/sep/02/man-accused-of-enlisting-strangers-to-drugged-wife-goes-on-trial-in-france

Just so you know, no, fkn no, being a couple doesn't mean that your partner gave their consent to everything.

FutoiOtaku said:

Next time you’re near a sleeping person, try pouring liquid into their mouth, it’ll be educational for you! They won’t swallow, it will go into their lungs because the larynx is set that way for breathing. Good murder technique tho…
Also not saying spitting it in there is better, probably will also cause choking. But in case you still haven’t figured, this is an anime not a documentary. Your moral judgement is pointless.

Kitsune_089 said:

how is kissing them helping them to not drown

this sounds stupid

Moppit said:

Don't ask me how because I never try it. There's a way to get medicine or liquid down through mouth to mouth.

Kitsune_089 said:
He is 13 and she is 10 so age is not the problem here.

The problem is CONSENT. Its basically sexual assault.
There would be no problem with this if they kiss when she is awake...

Also can we talk about how unnecessary the kiss even was? Just pour down from the glass to her mouth 😒

ktg said:
@Kitsune_089 Ok, so you literally blaming the victim, because you think it was her fault that she got raped.
These children nowadays...

ktg said:
@FutoiOtaku To be fair, this is also stupid, but this is the other end of the same stupid take. During those centuries, it would have been unlikely that you could have married your spouse, because they decided based on social standing and not based on love or emotions.

So the Gen Z (which does not mean "zero") concept is much more humane than those hundred years old traditions. For example, it was also perfectly normal if you murdered your neighbor in a duel, do you want to implement that tradition as well, because humanity survived?

FutoiOtaku said:

Well, I’ve been married longer than you’ve been alive and honestly if every time we wanted to do something intimate we needed to ask first, our lives would be dull as fuck. The best way to wake up is with your partner kissing you or better still doing something erotic to you. Permission for every single act would be the best way to kill a healthy relationship.

Kitsune_089 said:
@Aumachi why even talk about established couple's consent in the same discussion with *practically* 2 strangers consent. this is not what we're talking about. Its irrelevant how 2 people in an already established relationship would should or could behave anyway...

ktg said:
For example, it was also perfectly normal if you murdered your neighbor in a duel, do you want to implement that tradition as well, because humanity survived?

ktg said:
@Kitsune_089 I asked this and linked a raping case where the husband drugged the wife and let other people rape her.: "so you think the wife gave her consent to this"
And your answer was: "yeah"

So you pretty clearly blamed the victim.

Strategist0083 said:
@Kitsune_089

Because of the shape of the cup, it's straight all around, with thin edge or tiny downward curve at the top. The medicine would need to be carefully poured into to her mouth to avoid choking. Yet, trying to do it with the type of cup being using would result in much of the medicine flowing not into her mouth, but flowing down the side of cup and onto her lap or chest. The medicine wouldn't fall straight into her mouth until the cup was at least near a completely horizontal angle, and by then about half the medicine would have spilt onto the bed. If the the "kiss" was something romantic or sexual, then yes it would be disturbing. However, from what I can see of the scene the "kiss" is equivalent to mouth to mouth CPR just with the purpose of giving someone medication.