| This anime was beautiful. It really was strikingly visually beautiful, and it seemed to portray an interesting historical time. Then the story just went all over the place, bad jokes that weren't funny, screaming faces, lots of other weird jarring stuff done for comedy that wasn't funny. The visuals and historical setting was just so beautiful that I thought for a second this had the potential to be something better. I could forgive the forced gimmick which is focused way too much on of the MC's ability to run away, if the show was atleast decent in any other way. But it's not. Why is a show this pretty, so bad? :( |
| its one of the better battle shonen today maybe you just hate battle shonen |
sockerdricka said: Then the story just went all over the place, bad jokes that weren't funny, screaming faces, lots of other weird jarring stuff done for comedy that wasn't funny. So a very typical Shounen Nekketsu, in short ? Looking at your list, it doesn't looks like the type of show you'll enjoy much, anyway. sockerdricka said: Why is a show this pretty, so bad? :( It's beautiful because the producers believe it has the potential to be a huge hit, and it kinda is. As for why it's bad, the answer is simple... it's not. |
 "Genius lives only one storey above madness." – Arthur Schopenhauer. "Stupidity is a talent for misconception." – Edgar Allan Poe. "I'm tired... and hungry." – Alexioos95. |
| I think everyone who isn't too butthurt about the comedy and who has seen a Shonen-Show before was able to enjoy this :) You didn't see the point? Oh, well you wasted your time then. That's too bad^^ The Rest of us are fine with it, tho |
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| also battle shonen usually have good animation anyway especially for season 1 of it |
Reply to Merve2Love
I think everyone who isn't too butthurt about the comedy and who has seen a Shonen-Show before was able to enjoy this :)
You didn't see the point? Oh, well you wasted your time then. That's too bad^^
The Rest of us are fine with it, tho
You didn't see the point? Oh, well you wasted your time then. That's too bad^^
The Rest of us are fine with it, tho
| @Merve2Love Oh i've seen a shounen or two, don't worry about that :) I don't know about "butthurt" but you and many others seem more aggressive about it. It's funny you're so gung ho about it though. From my POV you look like the butthurt one. But if you actually liked it, who am I to judge. |
| You're not the target audience. This is a kiddy show. Once you realise that, you'll have low expectations and just roll with it. |
patkarununganSep 22, 9:27 AM
sockerdricka said: @Merve2Love Oh i've seen a shounen or two, don't worry about that :) I don't know about "butthurt" but you and many others seem more aggressive about it. It's funny you're so gung ho about it though. From my POV you look like the butthurt one. But if you actually liked it, who am I to judge. Good point. You're perfectly fine. It's everybody else who's wrong and douchy^^ |
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| @bene29374 It doesn't matter. The tone is still for kids and showing them that the world isn't rainbows and butterflies. That's the point of all the bloodshed. If I would like to make this a more serious tale with an older demographic, I would remove Yorishige's humour, make it all darker, have a dreary tone, and have older teenagers be the cast. |
patkarununganSep 22, 7:45 AM
Reply to OtakuKun1
sockerdricka said:
This anime was beautiful. It really was strikingly visually beautiful, and it seemed to portray an interesting historical time.
Then the story just went all over the place, bad jokes that weren't funny, screaming faces, lots of other weird jarring stuff done for comedy that wasn't funny.
The visuals and historical setting was just so beautiful that I thought for a second this had the potential to be something better. I could forgive the forced gimmick which is focused way too much on of the MC's ability to run away, if the show was atleast decent in any other way. But it's not. Why is a show this pretty, so bad? :(
This anime was beautiful. It really was strikingly visually beautiful, and it seemed to portray an interesting historical time.
Then the story just went all over the place, bad jokes that weren't funny, screaming faces, lots of other weird jarring stuff done for comedy that wasn't funny.
The visuals and historical setting was just so beautiful that I thought for a second this had the potential to be something better. I could forgive the forced gimmick which is focused way too much on of the MC's ability to run away, if the show was atleast decent in any other way. But it's not. Why is a show this pretty, so bad? :(
For me, this anime is the best from Summer 2024 season. Japan historical events, MC, animation, both OP and ED themes are absolutely amazing. I won’t say that there is futile bad jokes, but they made a great job presenting the life of Japanese samurai as it was and I find it awesome.
| @OtakuKun1 Thanks for sharing. I posted what I think but I didn't do it to shit on someone elses favourite show, if you like it great and even better when you share your views on it :) |
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sockerdricka said:
@Merve2Love Oh i've seen a shounen or two, don't worry about that :) I don't know about "butthurt" but you and many others seem more aggressive about it. It's funny you're so gung ho about it though. From my POV you look like the butthurt one. But if you actually liked it, who am I to judge.
@Merve2Love Oh i've seen a shounen or two, don't worry about that :) I don't know about "butthurt" but you and many others seem more aggressive about it. It's funny you're so gung ho about it though. From my POV you look like the butthurt one. But if you actually liked it, who am I to judge.
Good point.
You're perfectly fine. It's everybody else who's wrong and douchy^^
| @Merve2Love "Good point. You're perfectly fine. It's everybody else who's wrong and douchy^^" Way to twist words. I never blamed everone or called anyone "douchy", i specifically replied to you. Don't drag "everyone" in with you. Why do you try to twist words like that and frame it like i said something I never did? Why? Who does that? |
sockerdricka said: @Merve2Love "Good point. You're perfectly fine. It's everybody else who's wrong and douchy^^" Way to twist words. I never blamed everone or called anyone "douchy", i specifically replied to you. Don't drag "everyone" in with you. Why do you try to twist words like that and frame it like i said something I never did? Why? Who does that? You alright, buddy? My original reply to you: "Oh, Well seems like you wasted your time. Whatever. Most of us liked it, tho" ^^ And you're asking me like 10 different questions now, talking about some Word twisting that got you going You didn't like a Show and thought everyone should be applauding you for it, online. But that didn't happen. People think this Anime is fine. So what? No need to lash out :) Life is good. Relax. |
Merve2LoveSep 22, 8:51 AM
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| The comedy is hit and miss for me (but more hit tbh), however I feel like the overall art/animation style is a bit overbearing. For me, it is a little bit too much, but this type of thing really depends on peoples tastes. For me though, I just haven't been able to connect with many characters in the show. Gradually, I've begun to respect Tokiyuki's first 2 retainers (Ayako and Kojiro) as we see their dedication and improvement consistently throughout the show. Tokiyuki feels quite 1D and childish, but then again, he's literally 9 years old (which still shocks me whenever they mention it like last episode)... so I can't blame him, it still makes the show feel stale though. I liked Yorishige's monologue about the future and how something exists and has a presence as long as we believe it exists. But as soon as people stop believing in those things, then they no longer have an impact on our lives, so they no longer exist. Overall, the characters that really intrigue me are the antagonist and his brother. I hope they explore his inhumane nature and his brother's response to the things he finds out. Besides the characters, the biggest issue for me has to be how each event is connected to the overarching plot. While they are connected, I think the presentation of the stakes is lacking which has made the battles feel lackluster. I would give it a 6.5/10 for now, but I'd watch a sequel due to my interest in the villains. |
| yeah it's pretty horrendous and the lame gimmicks make it a lot worse. so hard to believe the same guy who made assassination classroom, made this bs. |
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@patkarunungan its a kiddy show that has excessive gore and people being brutally murdered, who is the target audience
| @Rukasumi 10 to 15 year old kids ETA: Looking at outside sources, this website https://library.spscc.edu/c.php?g=1335176&p=9854559#:~:text=Shonen%20manga%20are%20targeted%20towards,late%2050s%20to%20early%2060s. says that the shounen demographic targets 9 to 18 year olds, and it goes without saying that older people can appreciate a show like this. It's just that, me personally, this anime is at the lower end of the age bracket for two reasons that I will repeatedly mention: 1) the lame humour of Yorishige 2) our protagonists are early teenagers if not preteens. This despite the gore and the violence. |
patkarununganSep 25, 8:55 AM
| I didn't like this anime either. The comidy is soo out of place and sometime stright up being cringe same goes for its story. The art and animation is good as expected from Cloverworks but seriously they should have picked better shounen series. This one is mid asf you can see the manga score it's around 6.5, This anime is totally carried by it's art and animation. |
| Visually speaking, this is the most jaw-dropping, unhinged anime I've seen this season. It's so good that I don't even need "a point." I do recognize that the story, the characters and the comedy are so bad that a lot of people couldn't get into this. They're still not enough to make me dislike the show, though (so far). I wonder how much more amazing this could have been... but I just gave up and accepted that this show is only eye-candy. |
Reply to GrimLegend
@ZXEAN It's not for you, move on. Manga score does not correlate to whats good or not as the beggining of the manga was the weakest. You not liking the comedy is subjective but many people do. This is the better shonen series of recent decade, definitely better than Demon Slayer.
| @GrimLegend Manga score is also given by MAL users. Anyway I don't want to waste my time watching this cringe anime, so dropped it after episode 2 and don't compare it with Demon Slayer it have much wider fanbase and is loved by people from all age group and gender it doesn't try to do something unique it's a pure shounen at its core unlike this one which feels like a mix bag. Anyway have a nice day. |
ZXEANSep 27, 7:24 AM
Reply to GrimLegend
@perseii LOL calling the story, characters and comedy SO bad is a hot take. Its not for you does not make it bad, its just not your type of story. It wouldnt be as popular in japan if it was all those things and even in the US its doing Okay/decent NOT BAD.
| @GrimLegend GrimLegend said: a hot take. I don't think it's that hot of a take, since just in this thread and in the episode discussion threads I've seen many complaints about the comedy and the writing in general. That's been my experience, feel free to disagree. GrimLegend said: Its not for you does not make it bad I understand that is often the case, but in other cases I do think something is bad. It's an opinion. And I didn't really say this show's writing was bad, I only meant it was "bad enough" for a lot of people here to get turned off by it. The phrasing wasn't very good, I guess. Again, I don't dislike the show. I just think that the writing isn't remotely on the same level as the visuals. And that's fine. |
Reply to Artur_Moreira
@Rukasumi You’re starting from a clichéd assumption that a kids' show should never take itself seriously, and that an adult show MUST be serious on every level of its conception. You sound like the type of teenager trying to prove that 'anime isn’t for kids' by using silly edgy examples. Adults also enjoy stories that don’t take themselves too seriously, and kids can appreciate heavier themes. Just remember Avatar, a children's show with a plot centered around ethnic genocide.
| @Artur_Moreira He never said "never" or "should" in his comment. All he said was that gore and violent murders don't go well with a children's show. Which is pretty close to the truth. |
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@RobertBobert not to mention the show is literally rated r 17
| @Rukasumi I would rather say that this is a typical edgy shonen for an older audience, which is more or less common for Japanese targeting. But to Western eyes, the idea of combining young children and Tarantino-style storytelling doesn't seem like an common idea. |
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