That Time I got Reincarnated as a Slime
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Aug 6, 2:50 AM
#1
As a LN reader I’m satisfied with the way they’re adapting the light novel: not summarizing important details/events and giving attention to some small parts when needed. Personally, I like slow pacing bc it gives time to explain almost everything + we get character development( primary and secondary) making the worldbuilding better. Unfortunately, light novels rarely get slow pacing faithful adaptations. Tensura’s story becomes more complex through the time so it requires massive dialogues and explanations in order to make it cohesive and coherent with no plotholes. Since season 1 we all know the story will be about a slime getting OP (he’s not even the strongest on the series yet) Also there’s still the ancient story to be explored on anime in the future, since it plays a significant role on the story Well, this anime clearly has a specific target audience and I don’t blame those who don’t like it. What’s your thoughts about it ? |
Aug 6, 3:36 AM
#3
Same here, I am enjoying this season just as I enjoyed the other seasons. S3 is currently a 10 for me. I'm glad to see all of this from a LN reader. |
Aug 6, 3:59 AM
#4
I mean some people are still complaining. Even though its most faithful adaptation of the novels. |
Aug 6, 5:19 AM
#5
It’s not just the fact that it’s slow, it’s simply uninteresting, they’re introducing new characters, factions, events and all sorts of developments in tempest, but without giving me much reason to care and be invested in any of it. as an anime watcher, it’s a pretty bad experience imo. Maybe it works as a novel, but as an anime, seeing them seat around the table and discuss really boring matters every episode isn’t very engaging. Can’t say if it’d be better if they did skip more stuff or summarize it, but as it stands right now, this season is straight up bad and maybe a less faithful adaptation could have helped, but again, can’t say that as an anime only. |
Aug 6, 5:32 AM
#6
I’m anime only and am grateful to the studio for not dumbing it down. Showing the audience respect by explaining the politics and magic system in detail, as well as rounding out all the relevant characters enough to make them memorable, is rare in the low attention span TikTok era. Season 1 was an 8 to me, it’s now approaching 10 this season due to the attention to detail. I tire every week of the complaining going on, but have learned to just shut down. I’m sure most of those flooding MAL with such arguments are just contrarians seeking attention. Anyhow, I agree totally, it’s a great show and still getting better. |
Aug 6, 5:45 AM
#7
betaweeb said: It’s not just the fact that it’s slow, it’s simply uninteresting, they’re introducing new characters, factions, events and all sorts of developments in tempest, but without giving me much reason to care and be invested in any of it. as an anime watcher, it’s a pretty bad experience imo. Maybe it works as a novel, but as an anime, seeing them seat around the table and discuss really boring matters every episode isn’t very engaging. Can’t say if it’d be better if they did skip more stuff or summarize it, but as it stands right now, this season is straight up bad and maybe a less faithful adaptation could have helped, but again, can’t say that as an anime only. I can see why you feel that way and frankly I don't blame you. tbh, I felt the same when reading the novels for the first time. But trust me when I say that next seasons are the pay off for everything that's being adapted right now. Having read the books, they do very well in forshadowing future events and plots. |
Aug 6, 6:42 AM
#8
as an anime only this season is really good it helps with explaining things in context with out it just cutting stuff and being confused about what is happening, the anime is entertaining and the fact it's a faithful adaptation makes it better so I don't have to search up questions about stuff I'm confused since the pacing is really good. |
Aug 6, 7:40 AM
#9
R0r5ch4ch said: betaweeb said: It’s not just the fact that it’s slow, it’s simply uninteresting, they’re introducing new characters, factions, events and all sorts of developments in tempest, but without giving me much reason to care and be invested in any of it. as an anime watcher, it’s a pretty bad experience imo. Maybe it works as a novel, but as an anime, seeing them seat around the table and discuss really boring matters every episode isn’t very engaging. Can’t say if it’d be better if they did skip more stuff or summarize it, but as it stands right now, this season is straight up bad and maybe a less faithful adaptation could have helped, but again, can’t say that as an anime only. I can see why you feel that way and frankly I don't blame you. tbh, I felt the same when reading the novels for the first time. But trust me when I say that next seasons are the pay off for everything that's being adapted right now. Having read the books, they do very well in forshadowing future events and plots. I’m definitely happy to hear novel readers enjoy the series and have stuff after this point that they really dig, but I’m not sure I’ll be along for the ride because it’s really not hitting for me right now and hasn’t for a while, but maybe, considering I’ve kept with it this long. |
Aug 6, 8:11 AM
#10
betaweeb said: R0r5ch4ch said: betaweeb said: It’s not just the fact that it’s slow, it’s simply uninteresting, they’re introducing new characters, factions, events and all sorts of developments in tempest, but without giving me much reason to care and be invested in any of it. as an anime watcher, it’s a pretty bad experience imo. Maybe it works as a novel, but as an anime, seeing them seat around the table and discuss really boring matters every episode isn’t very engaging. Can’t say if it’d be better if they did skip more stuff or summarize it, but as it stands right now, this season is straight up bad and maybe a less faithful adaptation could have helped, but again, can’t say that as an anime only. I can see why you feel that way and frankly I don't blame you. tbh, I felt the same when reading the novels for the first time. But trust me when I say that next seasons are the pay off for everything that's being adapted right now. Having read the books, they do very well in forshadowing future events and plots. I’m definitely happy to hear novel readers enjoy the series and have stuff after this point that they really dig, but I’m not sure I’ll be along for the ride because it’s really not hitting for me right now and hasn’t for a while, but maybe, considering I’ve kept with it this long. hey man, you can always pick it back up when it gets good the reason it's one of the highest selling novels oat is because of the later chapters |
Aug 6, 11:21 AM
#11
betaweeb said: It’s not just the fact that it’s slow, it’s simply uninteresting, they’re introducing new characters, factions, events and all sorts of developments in tempest, but without giving me much reason to care and be invested in any of it. as an anime watcher, it’s a pretty bad experience imo. Maybe it works as a novel, but as an anime, seeing them seat around the table and discuss really boring matters every episode isn’t very engaging. Can’t say if it’d be better if they did skip more stuff or summarize it, but as it stands right now, this season is straight up bad and maybe a less faithful adaptation could have helped, but again, can’t say that as an anime only. I highly recommend you to pay attention to everything single detail and information because you may get lost in future due to the complexity of the universe. Im not asking you to force yourself to like what you consider “boring”, but unfortunately or not there’s no other way to engage with Tensura properly. |
Aug 6, 11:24 AM
#12
I love to read novels (I didn't read Tensura) however I hate watching novels. Anime is an audioVISUAL media. I'm fine with discussions in novel since a novel will always use only words anyway but in animes I want to SEE things. Maybe the anime is faithful to the source material but to me it's exactly what makes it a poor adaptation. I hear characters talking about events but I barely SEE any of these events while the anime format can actually be used to SHOW what happens instead of telling it. So for the story it's a 10 but the way it's delivered in this particular season is a 3 to me. |
Aug 6, 12:02 PM
#13
This thread has been the most balanced discussion about this I’ve seen about this season. I appreciate that. I’m an anime only and have felt mixed about this season. I’m invested in the characters and lore, so I’ve been along for the ride and will continue to be. That being said, I do feel that it hasn’t done the best job at story telling. Dialogue is often one of my favorite aspects of my favorite series, so I don’t mind long or heavy conversations. But the dialogue in most of these meetings hasn’t been particularly compelling. I think it’s been largely exposition. The world is interesting to me, so I’m down for it, but I can totally see the sedentary, exposition heavy meeting scenes being off-putting to a lot of people. I think that a lot of the (really interesting) concepts in this show could have been expressed in a more interesting or engaging way; whether that be through more compelling dialogue or via a “show not tell” type method. All in all I am enjoying it for the most part tho. |
Aug 6, 2:28 PM
#14
@DragyG @ArthurBedlam I agree with you two, they could showed us more scenes than the few showed. Reading the light novel I managed to imagine all the scenes on my mind. I prefer dialogues to just scenes, however having scenes illustrating the events is better in general on anime format. Probably the studio decided to save money for the first half of that arc, because the all the next episodes were well balanced imo. |
Aug 6, 2:43 PM
#15
Coast27 said: @DragyG @ArthurBedlam I agree with you two, they could showed us more scenes than the few showed. Reading the light novel I managed to imagine all the scenes on my mind. I prefer dialogues to just scenes, however having scenes illustrating the events is better in general on anime format. Probably the studio decided to save money for the first half of that arc, because the all the next episodes were well balanced imo. I posted before watching episode 65 but that one was exactly what I wanted the dialogues to be. It's pretty clear they are discussing about what Masayuki has done but instead of hearing them talk about Masayuki we saw Masayuki doing his things. This episode was neat to me. |
Aug 6, 6:10 PM
#16
If they need to talk too much to explain things then its a bad adaptation. Anime is different media than Novel, you can just show it and no need to spend too much time on dialogue. People would love any change the anime made to represent the story better. Thats why it always a bad thing to follow the book completely. Oh, i love this anime. The world and characters are amazing for me. But i wont let my bias say this is a great anime. |
Aug 6, 11:47 PM
#17
@ilusatus Haven’t you read a light novel before ? It seems like you don’t understood my point, I’m saying that the complexity of Tensura’s universe requires a massive explanation due to its wealth of details, so it has to be like this. Compare Tensura to Clasroom of the Elite and Tate no Yuusha(s2 and s3), all of them have a plenty of information/details on their stories but just Tensura did justice to its light novel. We can clearly see the difference in the quality of adaptation. |
Aug 7, 3:54 AM
#18
betaweeb said: It’s not just the fact that it’s slow, it’s simply uninteresting, they’re introducing new characters, factions, events and all sorts of developments in tempest, but without giving me much reason to care and be invested in any of it. as an anime watcher, it’s a pretty bad experience imo. Maybe it works as a novel, but as an anime, seeing them seat around the table and discuss really boring matters every episode isn’t very engaging. Can’t say if it’d be better if they did skip more stuff or summarize it, but as it stands right now, this season is straight up bad and maybe a less faithful adaptation could have helped, but again, can’t say that as an anime only. 100% agree you are absolutely right |
Aug 7, 8:31 AM
#19
I'm good with the meetings and everything, what's interesting about this anime for me was always the world building and the politics of it all. I do understand people who complain about the constant meeting episodes, as they do seem repetitive, but so far everyone seems to be preparing for something, either the festival or some big things later, so it's all still in the talking phase. so far it's another good season giving me what I like about the show. |
Aug 7, 3:33 PM
#20
Coast27 said: As a LN reader I’m satisfied with the way they’re adapting the light novel: not summarizing important details/events and giving attention to some small parts when needed. Personally, I like slow pacing bc it gives time to explain almost everything + we get character development( primary and secondary) making the worldbuilding better. Unfortunately, light novels rarely get slow pacing faithful adaptations. Tensura’s story becomes more complex through the time so it requires massive dialogues and explanations in order to make it cohesive and coherent with no plotholes. Since season 1 we all know the story will be about a slime getting OP (he’s not even the strongest on the series yet) Also there’s still the ancient story to be explored on anime in the future, since it plays a significant role on the story Well, this anime clearly has a specific target audience and I don’t blame those who don’t like it. What’s your thoughts about it ? i have same oponion, but the visualization in this season is bad, like its boring |
Aug 8, 2:22 PM
#21
anime only I'm finding it's getting tedious now and I'm not sure I can last to the end of the series. Masayuki was a welcome change of pace and I would have loved to see that fleshed out a bit, but it felt crammed into such a short time. the pacing is just wrong for an anime. it could have been a short arc over a couple of episodes. how many pages of the light novel were dedicated to Masayuki's introduction vs time spent in the meeting room? promises of a payoff at the end makes it feel like I'm being told to finish my vegetables before I can have dessert, but keep getting more broccoli added to my plate... and I don't even know what's being served for dessert. unfortunately, with a lot of people complaining about it, it doesn't matter if it's faithful to the LN, turning off too many people means no next season. |
Aug 9, 1:30 AM
#22
@Skie5k13 As I said before: due to the complexity(keep increasing) of Tensura’s universe the adaptation can’t be different or changed. It will seem rude but its not, if you are getting bored watching an anime delivering you world building with a wealth of details then it’s not for you( even though I understood your point). The real problem was the bad visualization during the first 6 episodes that was improved in the subsequent episodes. Almost every LN should be adapted in slow pace to be good and faithful, you can search and confirm what I will say: the best LN adaptations were made in slow pace. About next seasons, doesn’t matter what overseas viewers think since it almost always depends on reception from japaneses viewers and LN/manga/blu-ray/dvd sales anyways. FYI, their approval rate is extremely high. |
Aug 9, 4:23 AM
#23
Nowadays, I find that Tensura suffers from three fundamental problems: bloated cast with a bunch of useless characters, shitty pacing that source readers will somehow justify because it's "all according to the source material" and a poor excuse of "worldbuilding", and the seriously high power creep. A lot of characters in Tempest that made a lot of impact in the first few episodes of Seasons 1 and 2 have been reduced to nothing more than mere Yes-Mans (I swear if I hear that "Sasuga, Rimuru-sama!" one more time, I'm gonna lose my shit). Every time they appear on-screen praising Rimuru for every little thing he's doing is a waste of precious runtime that could've been better spent building the world or progressing the plot, but who cares about plot when you can just watch Shuna and Shion (all of Rimuru's subordinates actually) fall head-over-heels for Rimuru for the umpteenth time, right? Speaking of plot and worldbuilding, my God it's a fucking mess. We spent half the first-cour (seriously, it's surprising how Tensura can get away with this when many one-cour original animes have written a way better plot during that time) of this season confined to a single room, while characters debate on the same, single problem for 6 episodes. You could cut that amount of episodes in half and you'd be losing nothing essential to the plot. Basically, what I'm saying is that half of those 6 episodes of meeting accomplished nothing and conveyed no information that we don't already know. And don't give me that stupid "But it's for worldbuilding!" excuse as well. When you write a fantasy world as rich as Tensura, the potential for worldbuilding is practically limitless... IF you know how to execute it properly, AND take advantage of the anime medium. I mean you have all these monsters, knights, nations, and cities introduced, but somehow your idea of worldbuilding is people sitting mindlessly at meetings for 6 straight episodes, when there are far better-paced, less-boring ways to build your world? Tensura should take a page out of Mushoku Tensei on how to do worldbuilding right. Those first 6 episodes weren't even about lacking action. It was straight-up boring. Tensura should stick more to slice-of-life like adventures and nation building, since serious story arcs seem to be its weakest point. Case in point, this whole preparation for the founding festival that the anime is in right now has been way better than those first 6 episodes (still not as good as Season 1 though). Perhaps the pacing is to be blamed for this. In which case, the anime should adapt (it's in the name after all, anime ADAPTATION), and take advantage of its visual aspect. I get that they're just following the source material, but as this is a visual medium, following the source material TOO CLOSELY can also be a hindrance towards the adaptation. And lastly, the insane power creep of the story makes it hard to get invested in any serious moments in the story. Every death feels cheap, every saving moment feels undeserving, and any attempts at upping the stakes falls flat because we already know that Rimuru and his cult are going to breeze through their adversaries anyway. It baffles me how this season still has a rating of 7.85. In my opinion, it should be way lower than that, but honestly not even Rimuru can hope to get through source readers who refuse to acknowledge its flaws. |
_gt_ohnAug 9, 4:27 AM
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Aug 9, 11:27 AM
#24
I'm not saying the information is boring, but I find the way it is being presented is, which makes it hard for me to concentrate on. |
Aug 9, 6:01 PM
#25
I've only read the manga, not the novel, and the same things really feel differently in the anime format. Personally, I appreciate that we got a faithful adaptation, but at the same time I can't deny that it lacks creativity. There was room to actually adapt more to the media rather than doing it plainly scene-by-scene. Yes, it's the same information, but does a 10-minute anime talk works the same way as 10 pages you can scroll through at your own pace? No, not really. Besides, a lot of the details weren't as important or could be shown differently, or in a different time-frame, or maybe not as straightforwardly as just sitting down on a yet another meeting. I love the story itself and the way it's told, the author's style really speaks to me and I can genuinely tell that a lot of thought and care was put into the worldbuilding. But as an anime adaptation, this season has honestly been just okay at best. |
Aug 10, 1:30 AM
#26
Skie5k13 said: I'm not saying the information is boring, but I find the way it is being presented is, which makes it hard for me to concentrate on. I gently agreed with you on that point. The bad visualization dragged down the quality of the anime, but not the story itself as I was trying to say to you. |
Aug 10, 2:41 AM
#27
@_gt_ohn Let me be clear AGAIN, the universe of Tensura is really complex and have a good depth both on story and characters. As I said before the story will show us a slime getting powerful( please read spoilers tag), so it’s illogical complain about the fact that enemies wont win against him unless they are already more OP than the MC( he’s a demon lord constantly evolving). You are complaining about story and it’s visualization at the same time. Firstly, I totally agree that the bad visualization screwed up the quality of anime during the first 6 episodes; Secondly, if you found boring the story itself than clearly Tensura isn’t for you or you misunderstood the premise that I gently explained on the first post :) . About world building Mushoku and Tensura have different aspects on their WB, so it’s not fair compare them. Please tell me how many anime adaptations based on light novels were successful without a slow or fair pace. You probably would drop Monogatari series if you see the massive amount of information that is presented to you just like Tensura does. |
Aug 10, 3:01 AM
#28
Reply to Coast27
@_gt_ohn Let me be clear AGAIN, the universe of Tensura is really complex and have a good depth both on story and characters. As I said before the story will show us a slime getting powerful( please read spoilers tag), so it’s illogical complain about the fact that enemies wont win against him unless they are already more OP than the MC( he’s a demon lord constantly evolving).
You are complaining about story and it’s visualization at the same time. Firstly, I totally agree that the bad visualization screwed up the quality of anime during the first 6 episodes; Secondly, if you found boring the story itself than clearly Tensura isn’t for you or you misunderstood the premise that I gently explained on the first post :) .
About world building Mushoku and Tensura have different aspects on their WB, so it’s not fair compare them.
Please tell me how many anime adaptations based on light novels were successful without a slow or fair pace. You probably would drop Monogatari series if you see the massive amount of information that is presented to you just like Tensura does.
You are complaining about story and it’s visualization at the same time. Firstly, I totally agree that the bad visualization screwed up the quality of anime during the first 6 episodes; Secondly, if you found boring the story itself than clearly Tensura isn’t for you or you misunderstood the premise that I gently explained on the first post :) .
About world building Mushoku and Tensura have different aspects on their WB, so it’s not fair compare them.
Please tell me how many anime adaptations based on light novels were successful without a slow or fair pace. You probably would drop Monogatari series if you see the massive amount of information that is presented to you just like Tensura does.
Coast27 said: Let me be clear AGAIN, the universe of Tensura is really complex and have a good depth I disagree. There's nothing complex or in-depth about Tensura as a whole. Do I still like it? Of course I do. Not every anime has to be complex to be good. Maybe the LNs are, but we're not talking about the LNs here. This is the anime adaptation. Coast27 said: so it’s illogical complain about the fact that enemies wont win against him How so? Ever since his evolution to Demon Lord, it's been the same formulaic cycle every time the story goes into serious mode. We see plannings and bad guys trying (and miserably failing) to be as mischievous as possible, and it's such a foregone conclusion that they're gonna get their just desserts since they're only there to remind us that Tensura does serious plot lines every now and then. There's nothing in depth about their characters, there's nothing interesting about them other than that they're generic bad guys who'll obviously be beaten before the season ends since they're so comically evil. Coast27 said: Secondly, if you found boring the story itself than clearly Tensura isn’t for you or you misunderstood the premise that I gently explained on the first post I find that when Tensura gets serious, it gets boring. Don't get that confused. Tensura is better off as a nationbuilding anime, since it's where it shines. I'll continue watching it since Tensura is good at it. Coast27 said: About world building Mushoku and Tensura have different aspects on their WB, so it’s not fair compare them. How so? Coast27 said: You probably would drop Monogatari series if you see the massive amount of information that is presented to you just like Tensura does. On the contrary. I look forward to watching it since it's how engaging dialogue should be done, while Tensura does dialogue in a boring, static way. |
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Aug 10, 6:59 AM
#29
I'm just a manga but mostly an anime watcher, but I really like LN/VNs getting adapted faithfully from the source instead of it getting skimmed and summarised. Also, as a anime watcher, I prefer how detailed the series getting adapted instead of it being skipped, and skipping various background and supporting characters. I really don't know why people nowadays would kill you for having a faithful adaptation when they should be mad about the opposite of the source not being adapted faithfully. P.S. They made the lovely Shuna ugly in the 2nd ED. |
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Aug 10, 8:21 AM
#30
I haven't read the LN but it's still enjoyable to see all this slow character development and no rush, you don't need to have a fight every 10 seconds to enjoy, unless you have a tiktok brain and can't focus for more than 1 minute or you haven't read a book in your life so you don't know what character development is, so yeah, it's a bit annoying seeing people complain about this but well, anime is not for everyone. |
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Aug 10, 9:47 PM
#31
_gt_ohn said: Coast27 said: Let me be clear AGAIN, the universe of Tensura is really complex and have a good depth I disagree. There's nothing complex or in-depth about Tensura as a whole. Do I still like it? Of course I do. Not every anime has to be complex to be good. Maybe the LNs are, but we're not talking about the LNs here. This is the anime adaptation. Coast27 said: so it’s illogical complain about the fact that enemies wont win against him How so? Ever since his evolution to Demon Lord, it's been the same formulaic cycle every time the story goes into serious mode. We see plannings and bad guys trying (and miserably failing) to be as mischievous as possible, and it's such a foregone conclusion that they're gonna get their just desserts since they're only there to remind us that Tensura does serious plot lines every now and then. There's nothing in depth about their characters, there's nothing interesting about them other than that they're generic bad guys who'll obviously be beaten before the season ends since they're so comically evil. Coast27 said: Secondly, if you found boring the story itself than clearly Tensura isn’t for you or you misunderstood the premise that I gently explained on the first post I find that when Tensura gets serious, it gets boring. Don't get that confused. Tensura is better off as a nationbuilding anime, since it's where it shines. I'll continue watching it since Tensura is good at it. Coast27 said: About world building Mushoku and Tensura have different aspects on their WB, so it’s not fair compare them. How so? Coast27 said: You probably would drop Monogatari series if you see the massive amount of information that is presented to you just like Tensura does. On the contrary. I look forward to watching it since it's how engaging dialogue should be done, while Tensura does dialogue in a boring, static way. You literally can ask any LN reader and they will answer the same as me( even when we compare anime and LN), some of the best parts of Tensura are the serious/critical arcs, nationbuilding and politics-economy matters. It’s okay if you think it’s boring though, since it’s targeted for a specific audience. I won’t spoil you but Demon Lord is one of highest classes of Tensura, that’s why complaining about how easy he win some fights are illogical( you witnessed he barely winning Hinata). To conclude this prolonged friendly discussion I’m gonna say you are jumping to conclusions about the whole series, there are 21 volumes of the LN released and anime didn’t adapt even half of them. My advice to you is to take notes about the boring parts, you won’t regret it in the future. |
Aug 23, 10:33 PM
#32
Reply to _gt_ohn
Nowadays, I find that Tensura suffers from three fundamental problems: bloated cast with a bunch of useless characters, shitty pacing that source readers will somehow justify because it's "all according to the source material" and a poor excuse of "worldbuilding", and the seriously high power creep.
A lot of characters in Tempest that made a lot of impact in the first few episodes of Seasons 1 and 2 have been reduced to nothing more than mere Yes-Mans (I swear if I hear that "Sasuga, Rimuru-sama!" one more time, I'm gonna lose my shit). Every time they appear on-screen praising Rimuru for every little thing he's doing is a waste of precious runtime that could've been better spent building the world or progressing the plot, but who cares about plot when you can just watch Shuna and Shion (all of Rimuru's subordinates actually) fall head-over-heels for Rimuru for the umpteenth time, right?
Speaking of plot and worldbuilding, my God it's a fucking mess. We spent half the first-cour (seriously, it's surprising how Tensura can get away with this when many one-cour original animes have written a way better plot during that time) of this season confined to a single room, while characters debate on the same, single problem for 6 episodes. You could cut that amount of episodes in half and you'd be losing nothing essential to the plot. Basically, what I'm saying is that half of those 6 episodes of meeting accomplished nothing and conveyed no information that we don't already know.
And don't give me that stupid "But it's for worldbuilding!" excuse as well. When you write a fantasy world as rich as Tensura, the potential for worldbuilding is practically limitless... IF you know how to execute it properly, AND take advantage of the anime medium. I mean you have all these monsters, knights, nations, and cities introduced, but somehow your idea of worldbuilding is people sitting mindlessly at meetings for 6 straight episodes, when there are far better-paced, less-boring ways to build your world? Tensura should take a page out of Mushoku Tensei on how to do worldbuilding right.
Those first 6 episodes weren't even about lacking action. It was straight-up boring. Tensura should stick more to slice-of-life like adventures and nation building, since serious story arcs seem to be its weakest point. Case in point, this whole preparation for the founding festival that the anime is in right now has been way better than those first 6 episodes (still not as good as Season 1 though).
Perhaps the pacing is to be blamed for this. In which case, the anime should adapt (it's in the name after all, anime ADAPTATION), and take advantage of its visual aspect. I get that they're just following the source material, but as this is a visual medium, following the source material TOO CLOSELY can also be a hindrance towards the adaptation.
And lastly, the insane power creep of the story makes it hard to get invested in any serious moments in the story. Every death feels cheap, every saving moment feels undeserving, and any attempts at upping the stakes falls flat because we already know that Rimuru and his cult are going to breeze through their adversaries anyway.
It baffles me how this season still has a rating of 7.85. In my opinion, it should be way lower than that, but honestly not even Rimuru can hope to get through source readers who refuse to acknowledge its flaws.
A lot of characters in Tempest that made a lot of impact in the first few episodes of Seasons 1 and 2 have been reduced to nothing more than mere Yes-Mans (I swear if I hear that "Sasuga, Rimuru-sama!" one more time, I'm gonna lose my shit). Every time they appear on-screen praising Rimuru for every little thing he's doing is a waste of precious runtime that could've been better spent building the world or progressing the plot, but who cares about plot when you can just watch Shuna and Shion (all of Rimuru's subordinates actually) fall head-over-heels for Rimuru for the umpteenth time, right?
Speaking of plot and worldbuilding, my God it's a fucking mess. We spent half the first-cour (seriously, it's surprising how Tensura can get away with this when many one-cour original animes have written a way better plot during that time) of this season confined to a single room, while characters debate on the same, single problem for 6 episodes. You could cut that amount of episodes in half and you'd be losing nothing essential to the plot. Basically, what I'm saying is that half of those 6 episodes of meeting accomplished nothing and conveyed no information that we don't already know.
And don't give me that stupid "But it's for worldbuilding!" excuse as well. When you write a fantasy world as rich as Tensura, the potential for worldbuilding is practically limitless... IF you know how to execute it properly, AND take advantage of the anime medium. I mean you have all these monsters, knights, nations, and cities introduced, but somehow your idea of worldbuilding is people sitting mindlessly at meetings for 6 straight episodes, when there are far better-paced, less-boring ways to build your world? Tensura should take a page out of Mushoku Tensei on how to do worldbuilding right.
Those first 6 episodes weren't even about lacking action. It was straight-up boring. Tensura should stick more to slice-of-life like adventures and nation building, since serious story arcs seem to be its weakest point. Case in point, this whole preparation for the founding festival that the anime is in right now has been way better than those first 6 episodes (still not as good as Season 1 though).
Perhaps the pacing is to be blamed for this. In which case, the anime should adapt (it's in the name after all, anime ADAPTATION), and take advantage of its visual aspect. I get that they're just following the source material, but as this is a visual medium, following the source material TOO CLOSELY can also be a hindrance towards the adaptation.
And lastly, the insane power creep of the story makes it hard to get invested in any serious moments in the story. Every death feels cheap, every saving moment feels undeserving, and any attempts at upping the stakes falls flat because we already know that Rimuru and his cult are going to breeze through their adversaries anyway.
It baffles me how this season still has a rating of 7.85. In my opinion, it should be way lower than that, but honestly not even Rimuru can hope to get through source readers who refuse to acknowledge its flaws.
@_gt_ohn Oh thank god someone said. It was cathartic to read and you pretty much said everything i wanted to say in this thread, even the reference to Mushoku Tensei which will have a similar start to its next season and probably trounce slime when the time comes. The cast has become grating and kinda dumb, the characters are either brain dead yesmen, empty headed do-gooders, or mustache twirling evil dooers. Its starting to feel empty. And the cope about world building is especially sad. This show was fun at first, now i can’t even tolerate to watch another episode of it. It isn’t as deep as these people make it out to be. |
Aug 24, 2:56 AM
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@Henrylord11 I listed all the reasons of why anime watchers and LN readers enjoy Slime, if you disagree with any of them then it’s not for you( i hope you at least read the first post). How you can say its not deep when we already have received a ton of info about power system, countries, counties, borders, regions, alliances, nation management(economy and politics), demon lords, primordial demons, characters origins, relationships, engineering behind the items and artifacts created by them etc, not mentioning the fact of all that were well described. I love both MT and Slime anime and novels, but for me Slime have better writing and storytelling tho( i feel like it’s more immersive). While MT was airing I saw a lot of threads in MAL and Twitter complaining about unnecessary cuts, changes and secondary characters being left aside on anime. |
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