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Aug 7, 2:07 PM
#1
Sad day for ecchi fans as the one seasonal tagged that way now has confirmed not only nipples but butt cheeks as well. Does this influence you watching the reboot or not? Should all butt cheeks and nips be terminated from fiction? I have never seen such a great L in all my years watching anime. What do you think? Edit: here is a pic |
rohan121Aug 9, 1:27 PM
Aug 7, 2:20 PM
#3
omfg i can't believe People are really that upset over no nips and cheeks JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING SHOW FOR WHAT IT IS ITS ABOUT ROMANCE AND MARTIAL ARTS NOT ECCHI |
Aug 7, 2:23 PM
#5
Watched the leak - anime looks fantastic. Never watched the OG anime nor did I read the source material. I was half expecting the show to have dated writing with tropes that'd make me roll my eyes, but it didn't even remotely feel like that. The remake so far is very cute and wholesome. I can't speak for the OG watchers, but as someone new to the series, I really enjoyed it and I look forward for the official release. It's a W in my book. |
Aug 7, 2:25 PM
#6
Aug 7, 2:25 PM
#7
Reply to Mr_Sai
omfg i can't believe People are really that upset over no nips and cheeks
JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING SHOW FOR WHAT IT IS
ITS ABOUT ROMANCE AND MARTIAL ARTS
NOT ECCHI
JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING SHOW FOR WHAT IT IS
ITS ABOUT ROMANCE AND MARTIAL ARTS
NOT ECCHI
@Mr_Sai yeah, ngl, the discourse over fans being upset over the lack of nipples is just absurd lol. Honestly, I am really digging the romance and the martial arts appeal this show has to offer. Looking forward to the official release, as someone completely new to the series. |
Aug 7, 2:44 PM
#11
rohan121 said: Sad day for ecchi fans as the one seasonal tagged that way now has confirmed not only nipples but butt cheeks as well. Does this influence you watching the reboot or not? Should all butt cheeks and nips be terminated from fiction? I have never seen such a great L in all my years watching anime. What do you think? Like i said on another topic, there is a reason i'm collecting the OG DVDs |
Aug 7, 2:45 PM
#12
Reply to Loayza
I haven't watched the original, did it have nipples?
Loayza said: I haven't watched the original, did it have nipples? Yep It wasn't really a big deal back in the 80s, i've watched non-ecchi 80s anime with nipples |
Aug 7, 2:47 PM
#13
Aug 7, 2:52 PM
#14
Reply to DigiCat
@Mr_Sai Why not? Is the a law against having both ecchi and a good story?
@DigiCat well, production already decided we're not getting ecchi - we eating good regardless, story seems to be great as a newcomer. Looking forward to the official release. And best of all, we now have two variants of the same series, a luxury we don't usually get to see for many old series which also deserve remakes. Edit: replaced a word |
Aug 7, 3:02 PM
#16
Reply to BaseLion
@DigiCat well, production already decided we're not getting ecchi - we eating good regardless, story seems to be great as a newcomer. Looking forward to the official release. And best of all, we now have two variants of the same series, a luxury we don't usually get to see for many old series which also deserve remakes.
Edit: replaced a word
Edit: replaced a word
@BaseLion Nothing wrong with having a different take on the story, but my question was why say it's "not about ecchi"? Thing the OG anime and manga are about |
DigiCatAug 7, 4:39 PM
Aug 7, 3:16 PM
#17
Reply to DigiCat
@BaseLion Nothing wrong with having a different take on the story, but my question was why say it's "not about ecchi"? Thing the OG anime and manga are about
@DigiCat I never read the source material nor did I watch the old show either. As a new comer, it doesn't feel like I'm missing out on much - so far, it certainly doesn't feel like showing more nipples or butts would contribute to better writing either. So I'm curious how the lack of ecchi is detracting the appeal and enjoyment of the remake, for a newcomer. I genuinely wouldn't mind less censorship though, but I can only base my experience off of what the remake is/would be once the official release is out. |
Aug 7, 3:16 PM
#18
Reply to DigiCat
@Mr_Sai Why not? Is the a law against having both ecchi and a good story?
@DigiCat I think people have just entered the damage control stage. The big appeal of the og Ranma was the wide appeal to both men and women. Catering partially to the male gaze is something some people get offended by so we see this ecchi divide. Kind of like my hero fandom with gay shippers clashing with vanilla straight canon stuff. |
Aug 7, 3:39 PM
#19
Reply to DigiCat
Loayza said:
I haven't watched the original, did it have nipples?
I haven't watched the original, did it have nipples?
Yep
It wasn't really a big deal back in the 80s, i've watched non-ecchi 80s anime with nipples
DigiCat said: It wasn't really a big deal back in the 80s And it still isn't, at least not for the average person. All the old content is still available and no one complains about that. Newer shows like Dungeon Meshi also had uncensored nipples for the harpies and no one complained there either. That the "sensibilities for modern audiences" have supposedly shifted seems to be nothing more than an unsubstantiated claim with nothing tangible to back it up. If anything the constant complains about censorship with no real pushback other then the usual "I don't care either way" / "complaing about people complaining" is indicative that nothing has really changed in that regard. |
Aug 7, 4:37 PM
#20
Reply to BaseLion
@DigiCat I never read the source material nor did I watch the old show either. As a new comer, it doesn't feel like I'm missing out on much - so far, it certainly doesn't feel like showing more nipples or butts would contribute to better writing either. So I'm curious how the lack of ecchi is detracting the appeal and enjoyment of the remake, for a newcomer. I genuinely wouldn't mind less censorship though, but I can only base my experience off of what the remake is/would be once the official release is out.
@BaseLion I think rather than the ecchi itself it's the fact that it is considered censorship that turns people off As for what ecchi contributes to the show, it's kinda the heart of the show, it's how the mangaka intended it to be, a raunchy comedy about romance and martial arts, i get raunchy comedy isn't everyone's cup of tea, and again, there's nothing wrong with having a new version with a different interpretation, but i don't think that's reason to dismiss the original intention |
Aug 7, 4:58 PM
#21
Bruh just enjoy the anime, it’s a good Action romcom that’s more than just nipples and butts |
Aug 7, 5:18 PM
#22
Aug 7, 6:51 PM
#23
Mr_Sai said: omfg i can't believe People are really that upset over no nips and cheeks JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING SHOW FOR WHAT IT IS ITS ABOUT ROMANCE AND MARTIAL ARTS NOT ECCHI As someone who watched many ecchi anime's and read a good amount of ecchi manga (most are ecchi but hey) those 2 things make an ecchi better in more ways than one, if its used in the right times and not overused like alot of harem anime/manga with ecchi do. |
Aug 7, 6:55 PM
#24
Noumu said: DigiCat said: It wasn't really a big deal back in the 80s And it still isn't, at least not for the average person. All the old content is still available and no one complains about that. Newer shows like Dungeon Meshi also had uncensored nipples for the harpies and no one complained there either. That the "sensibilities for modern audiences" have supposedly shifted seems to be nothing more than an unsubstantiated claim with nothing tangible to back it up. If anything the constant complains about censorship with no real pushback other then the usual "I don't care either way" / "complaing about people complaining" is indicative that nothing has really changed in that regard. Now you mention dungeon meshi, that manga is also written by a woman, so what you are saying makes alot of sense. |
Aug 7, 7:00 PM
#25
Honestly it’s whatever, I already watched all 161 episodes of the original anime and read all 407 chapters of the manga. So if Mappa want to be Karens about the ecchi scenes, I could honestly care less. I’m only here for the updated animation. |
YozarouAug 7, 7:05 PM
Aug 7, 7:31 PM
#26
I don't care. If I'm specifically looking for them, I'd watch h anime instead. |
Aug 7, 7:48 PM
#27
How prude. But I don't dig og girl Ranma's nipples anyway. I prefer Shampoo. Let's see if these leaked episodes capture the OG somehow. |
Aug 7, 7:51 PM
#28
the horror… the horror |
Aug 7, 8:31 PM
#30
while I'm still gonna watch I'm defintiely not giving this remake my money kinda makes me NOT feel bad for them that this happened people "don't care" about censorship until its something they care about, then all of a sudden theyre complaining just like the people theyre saying are complaining for no reason Ranma is WELL KNOWN for being one of the pioneers of 80s/90s raunch, so no... you're just wrong there... its like... one of the main things people who grew up with the series remember it for not to mention the explosion of martial arts ecchi of the 90s |
EcchiGodMamsterAug 7, 8:50 PM
Aug 7, 9:16 PM
#31
Reply to EcchiGodMamster
while I'm still gonna watch I'm defintiely not giving this remake my money
kinda makes me NOT feel bad for them that this happened
people "don't care" about censorship until its something they care about, then all of a sudden theyre complaining just like the people theyre saying are complaining for no reason
Ranma is WELL KNOWN for being one of the pioneers of 80s/90s raunch, so no... you're just wrong there... its like... one of the main things people who grew up with the series remember it for
not to mention the explosion of martial arts ecchi of the 90s
kinda makes me NOT feel bad for them that this happened
people "don't care" about censorship until its something they care about, then all of a sudden theyre complaining just like the people theyre saying are complaining for no reason
Ranma is WELL KNOWN for being one of the pioneers of 80s/90s raunch, so no... you're just wrong there... its like... one of the main things people who grew up with the series remember it for
not to mention the explosion of martial arts ecchi of the 90s
@EcchiGodMamster I'm guessing that a lot of newer viewers in the anime community aren't too well versed on how Ramna shaped the ecchi/raunchy genre - I too am one of them. And probably the sentiment of lack of care from other viewers very likely stems from the abundance of ecchi/raunchy shows we already have out there. So it's not surprising how those who grew up watching the old show would have biases against the remake, very likely due to nostalgia. Out of curiosity, I watched a couple of the early old episodes - honestly, in terms of raunch, both are really tame, only difference being lack of nipples in the remake, which doesn't feel like it takes away much value since the series itself feels very charming, both in the remake and the OG. Of course, I agree that censorship sucks, but after seeing the remake and the OG side by side, I don't see much of a difference, for the time being. Edit: removed a word |
BaseLionAug 7, 9:21 PM
Aug 7, 9:55 PM
#32
Reply to BaseLion
@EcchiGodMamster I'm guessing that a lot of newer viewers in the anime community aren't too well versed on how Ramna shaped the ecchi/raunchy genre - I too am one of them. And probably the sentiment of lack of care from other viewers very likely stems from the abundance of ecchi/raunchy shows we already have out there. So it's not surprising how those who grew up watching the old show would have biases against the remake, very likely due to nostalgia.
Out of curiosity, I watched a couple of the early old episodes - honestly, in terms of raunch, both are really tame, only difference being lack of nipples in the remake, which doesn't feel like it takes away much value since the series itself feels very charming, both in the remake and the OG. Of course, I agree that censorship sucks, but after seeing the remake and the OG side by side, I don't see much of a difference, for the time being.
Edit: removed a word
Out of curiosity, I watched a couple of the early old episodes - honestly, in terms of raunch, both are really tame, only difference being lack of nipples in the remake, which doesn't feel like it takes away much value since the series itself feels very charming, both in the remake and the OG. Of course, I agree that censorship sucks, but after seeing the remake and the OG side by side, I don't see much of a difference, for the time being.
Edit: removed a word
BaseLion said: @EcchiGodMamster I'm guessing that a lot of newer viewers in the anime community aren't too well versed on how Ramna shaped the ecchi/raunchy genre - I too am one of them. And probably the sentiment of lack of care from other viewers very likely stems from the abundance of ecchi/raunchy shows we already have out there. So it's not surprising how those who grew up watching the old show would have biases against the remake, very likely due to nostalgia. Out of curiosity, I watched a couple of the early old episodes - honestly, in terms of raunch, both are really tame, only difference being lack of nipples in the remake, which doesn't feel like it takes away much value since the series itself feels very charming, both in the remake and the OG. Of course, I agree that censorship sucks, but after seeing the remake and the OG side by side, I don't see much of a difference, for the time being. Edit: removed a word nah, i doubt they care about the impact Ranma had on ecchi, especially combat ecchi, they just think censorship is a W.... UNTIL its something that they care about, then all of a sudden theyre whining and complaining and being told the changes theyre complaining about aren't that big a deal while it doesn't surprise me if Ranma was tame compared to series that came out later, removing something it was significantly remembered for makes no sense and theyre defintiely only doing it for "modern sensibility"/"global audience" purposes which NO ONE is asking for this recent surge of remakes are starting to seem like despiration on the industries part |
Aug 7, 11:28 PM
#33
I don't care if it's censored or not but the fact that they went the Barbie doll route to censor the nipples is weird as fuck. It doesn't look good. What I'm more excited about is that this seems like a more faithful adaptation with almost no cuts unlike Urusei Yatsura remake. They're probably gonna start cutting chapters after the episodic stuff begins but I hope they'll actually adapt the popular chapters for this at the very least and also finish the damn series unlike the original Ranma 1/2 adaptation. That'd be more than enough to make this adaptation superior to the original. |
Aug 8, 1:08 AM
#35
This is a 100% skip for me then, i only watched ranma for the ecchi scenes, without them it's just another stupid ass romcom, i'm skipping this because it's not faithful to the manga. |
Aug 8, 2:16 AM
#36
EcchiGodMamster said: BaseLion said: @EcchiGodMamster I'm guessing that a lot of newer viewers in the anime community aren't too well versed on how Ramna shaped the ecchi/raunchy genre - I too am one of them. And probably the sentiment of lack of care from other viewers very likely stems from the abundance of ecchi/raunchy shows we already have out there. So it's not surprising how those who grew up watching the old show would have biases against the remake, very likely due to nostalgia. Out of curiosity, I watched a couple of the early old episodes - honestly, in terms of raunch, both are really tame, only difference being lack of nipples in the remake, which doesn't feel like it takes away much value since the series itself feels very charming, both in the remake and the OG. Of course, I agree that censorship sucks, but after seeing the remake and the OG side by side, I don't see much of a difference, for the time being. Edit: removed a word nah, i doubt they care about the impact Ranma had on ecchi, especially combat ecchi, they just think censorship is a W.... UNTIL its something that they care about, then all of a sudden theyre whining and complaining and being told the changes theyre complaining about aren't that big a deal while it doesn't surprise me if Ranma was tame compared to series that came out later, removing something it was significantly remembered for makes no sense and theyre defintiely only doing it for "modern sensibility"/"global audience" purposes which NO ONE is asking for this recent surge of remakes are starting to seem like despiration on the industries part womp womp cry about it the main focus of ranma 1/2 is the characters. romance and martial arts |
Aug 8, 2:22 AM
#37
Reply to Mr_Sai
omfg i can't believe People are really that upset over no nips and cheeks
JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING SHOW FOR WHAT IT IS
ITS ABOUT ROMANCE AND MARTIAL ARTS
NOT ECCHI
JUST ENJOY THE FUCKING SHOW FOR WHAT IT IS
ITS ABOUT ROMANCE AND MARTIAL ARTS
NOT ECCHI
@Mr_Sai If the original series has nudity and sexy fanservice, so IT IS a ecchi series and it's natural that fans would expect that in the remake, so you're objectively wrong here even if you won't admit. |
Aug 8, 2:27 AM
#38
Shinuki_n_Reborn said: @Mr_Sai If the original series has nudity and sexy fanservice, so IT IS a ecchi series and it's natural that fans would expect that in the remake, so you're objectively wrong here even if you won't admit. its not that the remake remove ALL fan service its just that fans are way too upset over 1 single pink detail |
Aug 8, 3:25 AM
#39
Nothing better than seeing gooners crying and dropping the anime before its official release. It's sad the anime got leaked but at least one good thing has come out of it. |
Aug 8, 3:47 AM
#40
I still have faith that this is done for a BD release, otherwise I don't see the point of doing a freaking barbie anatomy, not just where you have to choose a different angle or use a towel and hair. |
Aug 8, 3:49 AM
#41
I have no idea what this anime is about, but my condolences, I guess. |
Aug 8, 6:11 AM
#42
Mr_Sai said: womp womp cry about it the main focus of ranma 1/2 is the characters. romance and martial arts with this mentality i hope you have never complained about ANYTHING being censored or removed might as well make ALL anime in shitty 3DCGI because nothing about a series itself would change it'd save the industry time, wouldn't it? lets do that then |
EcchiGodMamsterAug 8, 6:14 AM
Aug 8, 6:50 AM
#43
The reaction of people makes me feel it's a strange choice, personally I don't care since I just want another comedy in the style of urusei yatsura but even though I think censorship can be good or at least not problematic the censorship here feels strange considering what people say |
Aug 8, 7:37 AM
#44
Reply to ShiroAlex
I still have faith that this is done for a BD release, otherwise I don't see the point of doing a freaking barbie anatomy, not just where you have to choose a different angle or use a towel and hair.
@ShiroAlex On the contrary, they hiding nipples with light or steam would allow the BD uncensor these to show nipples. Instead, the nipples weren't draw on this version. So, there isn't anything to uncensor. |
Aug 8, 7:45 AM
#45
Reply to tchitchouan
This is a 100% skip for me then, i only watched ranma for the ecchi scenes, without them it's just another stupid ass romcom, i'm skipping this because it's not faithful to the manga.
@tchitchouan Why add the lie at the end about faithfulness? You just admitted in the same post that the only reason you'd watch is for nipples. |
Aug 8, 7:47 AM
#46
Reply to Shinuki_n_Reborn
@Mr_Sai If the original series has nudity and sexy fanservice, so IT IS a ecchi series and it's natural that fans would expect that in the remake, so you're objectively wrong here even if you won't admit.
@Shinuki_n_Reborn I mean, the new Ranma 1/2 still has nudity. They just don't draw nipples. Maybe I'm just too used to many male character without nipples on anime (like old or new Ranma 1/2 anime), but I don't really understand why some people find weird female characters without nipples in anime. |
Aug 8, 9:47 AM
#47
EcchiGodMamster said: Mr_Sai said: womp womp cry about it the main focus of ranma 1/2 is the characters. romance and martial arts with this mentality i hope you have never complained about ANYTHING being censored or removed might as well make ALL anime in shitty 3DCGI because nothing about a series itself would change it'd save the industry time, wouldn't it? lets do that then your acting like this entier anime is ruind because theres no nipple what a fucking joke those poor mappa animators being worked to death and your upset over not seeing a tiny pink circle |
Aug 8, 11:01 AM
#48
My fucking God People, you do realise there's a middle ground between "good! Censor the hell out of source material! If you need ecchi, go watch some hentai" and "Nooooo the show is 1/10 I need mah nipples otherwise I won't enjoy it"?! I don't condone a censorship of any kind, especially something this idiotic (I will never understand how female chest, out of all things, became so "forbidden" and "banned"), but let's not pretend it actually affects story's quality (which is fantastic). Not the end of the world. It's just- why tho? Why do you always need to remove it? Does it offend some snowflakes? So dumb. Ranma is literally kids manga. Read it when I was 12. There are multiple nipples shown in shows that are not ecchi (like Dungeon Meshi), what's the problem here? People who talk about that raise much bigger problem of the censorship, because we also have gory scenes being censored in shonen anime, important scenese being deleted/changed "because director felt like this" etc etc. In this particular case Ig it's because of the show's rating |
Aug 8, 11:06 AM
#49
The OP made this theread for attention he doesn't really care about censorship |
Aug 8, 11:21 AM
#50
Reply to Mr_Sai
EcchiGodMamster said:
with this mentality i hope you have never complained about ANYTHING being censored or removed
might as well make ALL anime in shitty 3DCGI because nothing about a series itself would change
it'd save the industry time, wouldn't it?
lets do that then
Mr_Sai said:
womp womp cry about it
the main focus of ranma 1/2 is the characters. romance and martial arts
womp womp cry about it
the main focus of ranma 1/2 is the characters. romance and martial arts
with this mentality i hope you have never complained about ANYTHING being censored or removed
might as well make ALL anime in shitty 3DCGI because nothing about a series itself would change
it'd save the industry time, wouldn't it?
lets do that then
your acting like this entier anime is ruind because theres no nipple
what a fucking joke
those poor mappa animators being worked to death and your upset over not seeing a tiny pink circle
@Mr_Sai i hate having to say this NO ONE is forcing them to work for MAPPA nor is anyone obligated to like something based on how hard someone worked on it people want to see things done faithfully, end of story |
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