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Mar 24, 2008 7:51 PM

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lilgumba said:
To the comments that thinks Hiromi is out of place for saying back off to Noe...she's doing what Noe should have done to her. Seriously, if there is someone after your guy that you are now dating (supposedly if he isn't a two timing SOB) then you have every right to say...back off. Now you can't say kill a friendship but you can say don't try to go after him as a love interest. Her reasonings are just. Shin loves(d) her and she loves Shin. They finally got everything out in the open like she said. Noe admits that she didn't see this with her eyes. She should not be a love interest anymore. When Hiromi told Shin that I was expecting a different reaction but he said wasn't mad. So judging from his reaction what she said wasn't entirely wrong if at all.

That said, Shin still has to see Noe to set everything straight. For the last two episodes he's been going on and on about this. It's actually kind of pissing me off. His indecisiveness is making me like him less as a character. He is hurting both girls in the process. What pisses me off more is that he still hasn't officially broken up with Noe even though at this point I can see both of them not wanting to continue a relationship like that. (However, that's not to say a NoexShin ending can't happen yet. As much as I am a Hiromi fan I can't see a clear cut winner yet.) Last week because of his actions I was going to rate it an okay episode but I decided not to since the writers are being devious. This week I can't be so generous. Shin's actions are bringing down the show a little. I will need an ending full of resolution to bring this back up. I want everyone happy! Come on writers, redeem Shin's actions for the past 2 episodes.


I agree, why are people saying what Hiromi did was over the top or bad? Shes only doing what anyone else would do. Noe, is acting like a 12 year old like she always has and Hiromi is just trying to make her relationship with Shin clear.

I think the next ep will be about Shin bringing closure to his relationship with Noe. This ep he said he wanted to show her the finished book. So I think next ep he will either show her or tell her the whole story and then end their relationship wile shes recovering from her tree dive, which will probably make her cry. If he had any intentions of braking up with Hiromi he would have talked to her before going to see Noe, when she mentioned she told her to stop bothering us. So I'm still going with a Hiromi x Shin ending. If he ends up with Noe he's a dumb ass. She acts way to immature and has some mental issues.

And why are people surprised with Jun liking his sister? We found out about this in one of the beginning episodes...

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Mar 24, 2008 7:57 PM

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I liked it. good drama. Good animation work on the bon dance. Noe wieghs 98 lbs wet. She bruised some snow is about all.
Mar 24, 2008 8:01 PM

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lilgumba said:
To the comments that thinks Hiromi is out of place for saying back off to Noe...she's doing what Noe should have done to her. Seriously, if there is someone after your guy that you are now dating (supposedly if he isn't a two timing SOB) then you have every right to say...back off.


Get that real life logic out of here! Noe being moe is clearly more important than Hiromi acting like anyone would in real life who wants to keep their boyfriend!
Mar 24, 2008 8:44 PM
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I'm a bit at loss for words.
Mar 24, 2008 9:08 PM

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I'm also kinda confused... i actually for once have no clue whats gonna happen in the final ep... oh well, gotta wait another week...
Mar 24, 2008 10:32 PM

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Keeps the suspense in. Cliffhanger is win =3. Though as I've mentioned for the past, 6 episodes. I'm all for Shin x Noe, if it ends with Shin and Hiromi I won't have words to describe how pissed I'll be. Oh well, looking forward to next episode ^^.



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Mar 24, 2008 10:38 PM

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If it ends with Shin X Noe I'll be pissed and I'll type up a massive essay braking down how stupid it is. An ef episode 10 ending for Shin and Hiromi (which means Hiromi loses btw) would be utterly retarded and it's the only way Hiromi will lose. Hiromi and Shin are not like their counterparts in ef, their relationship is completely different.
Mar 24, 2008 10:53 PM

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If Noe doesn't die from falling out of the tree, then its a Noe win...
But if she does indeed die then its a Hiromi win.

I don't think she will die though... I hope she doesn't!!! Go Noe!!!!


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DeathfireD said:
I think the next ep will be about Shin bringing closure to his relationship with Noe. This ep he said he wanted to show her the finished book. So I think next ep he will either show her or tell her the whole story and then end their relationship wile shes recovering from her tree dive, which will probably make her cry. If he had any intentions of braking up with Hiromi he would have talked to her before going to see Noe, when she mentioned she told her to stop bothering us. So I'm still going with a Hiromi x Shin ending. If he ends up with Noe he's a dumb ass. She acts way to immature and has some mental issues.
After reading your post, I'm in complete agreement. I think is the way it's going to go as well... but Hiromi probably doesn't know that, so I wonder how she's going to react to that. It probably won't be the focus of the episode though.

Definitely looking forward to it :D
Mar 25, 2008 12:47 AM

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Oh on a side note, if Noe does die I'll be so FUCKING pissed.
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Mar 25, 2008 2:42 AM

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DeathfireD said:

I agree, why are people saying what Hiromi did was over the top or bad? Shes only doing what anyone else would do. Noe, is acting like a 12 year old like she always has and Hiromi is just trying to make her relationship with Shin clear.


I think it's over the top because the "relationship" wasn't official [yet, and hopefully won't be] and she's telling someone who is still his girlfriend to back off. I know she loves him, but I wouldn't say anything unless I knew it was official, if he chose the other girl in the end I would just look stupid and overconfident. Anyway, that's my opinion on that part.
Mar 25, 2008 3:38 AM

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Noi will not die for that fall, she survived becuase of the snow it's softed and yes it could be a lot of changes but I'm willing to cheer for Hiromi and Shinichirio be together but I guess that isn't going to be true.

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Mar 25, 2008 5:18 AM

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Awesome.

Only one episode left... T_T

Its gonna be sad to see this end... Oh yeah, hoping for a Noe X Shin ending, Noe's just awesome, srsly.
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Mar 25, 2008 6:03 AM

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honestly, i'm starting to worry a little after this episode, maybe i expected too much.
*prays final episode is going to be a good one*
Mar 25, 2008 6:37 AM
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so many emotions flying around, <3 <3 Noe
Mar 25, 2008 6:48 AM

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CrackedFlowers said:


I think it's over the top because the "relationship" wasn't official [yet, and hopefully won't be] and she's telling someone who is still his girlfriend to back off. I know she loves him, but I wouldn't say anything unless I knew it was official, if he chose the other girl in the end I would just look stupid and overconfident. Anyway, that's my opinion on that part.


Well it could also be possible that Hiromi thinks that Shin took care of his business with Noe and straightened everything out like he said he was. He wasn't hanging out around her for that whole week during the move much and was spending mornings and whatnot eating at Hiromi's place. He didn't deny the kiss either. Jealous over a book? Yes. However, all signs point her to being in an exclusive relationship with Shin right now. Her actions are still justified in that sense.

Shin just needs to get off his butt and explain how he feels about both girls to them.

Is it me or does anyone else feel like these last two episodes were mostly filler?

If we got 80% or higher let me know! :)
Mar 25, 2008 6:52 AM

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In Hiromi's mind they are boyfriend and girlfriend, why else would Shin chase after her, have breakfast at her house and kiss her. She is just insecure because of the book and if you want to fault her for being insecure than go ahead but you're faulting her for being human.

Mar 25, 2008 7:09 AM
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lol i guess the Hiromi fans have a good point. maybe the script writers is trying to trick us again with ep 12 fake a chance for noexshin. hate to admit defeat but i hope not. then is another predictable ending just like kimikiss pure rouge. i guess the girl who was shown first gets the main leads heart = lame
Mar 25, 2008 7:13 AM

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Can you really say this show is predictable though? Even up to now we still don't know who he will end up with. I think the writers did a good job concealing the final episode up to this point.

If we got 80% or higher let me know! :)
Mar 25, 2008 7:17 AM

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I was talking to a poster on Suki who said that 90% of the TT fans on 2ch think Noe will win after 12, I asked and he confirmed that after 10 over 90% thought Hiromi would win. He said that the director/staff/cast have been baiting them over the course of the show, take that as you want to take it but I think the 2ch fandom has been putty in the hands of the producers.
Mar 25, 2008 8:15 AM
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well the show might not be that predictable but the end pairing is predictable even though is not 100% sure but i know its most likely a hiromixshin end. like deathfire said earlier he did have a good point there maybe shin just wants to look for noe and end their relationship as a friendship instead.and i did kinda predict that they were not related by blood and also predicted that they will find out about the truth of that lie around ep 9-10. and on the hiromi confessing about lying that she forgot about the festival time when they were kids were a ep off on that prediction it was close.... this was in the true tears club...
Mar 25, 2008 8:48 AM

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I'd still vote for Noe. Wasn' missleaded when Hiromi budged and I think am gonna keep on that lead even if it turns to be a fail. That is what faith is isn' it? ^^
Seriously when Hiromi started talkin' to him and he said "I gotta go do something" a scene from Kimi ga nozomu eien flashed before my eyes ^_^ Hopefully it's not that style.


btw xhx do not be so sure of yourself with all that predicting stuff or one day (or even at the 13th ep) you'd be much surprised hehe.
Mar 25, 2008 9:17 AM

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Only this show could take the ending of ep10 and throw the entire ending up in the air again. Hiromi D: I guess that's why I love this show so much.

I still want Hiromi ending, cause despite everything, it still doesn't feel like Shin's feelings for Noe are genuine love. So reconcile with Noe, Shin, and get back to Hiromi...

Gah, oh well. At least Ai-chan's happy now. I'm liking her a lot more now at the end.

Did we ever really find out the reason for Shin's mom hating Hiromi's mom so much?

The thud made me cringe.
Mar 25, 2008 12:02 PM

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I want Ai-chan to win, then Hiromi then Isurugi.
But it probably will be Noe.
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Mar 25, 2008 12:46 PM
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Uss said:
btw xhx do not be so sure of yourself with all that predicting stuff or one day (or even at the 13th ep) you'd be much surprised hehe.


I hope i'm wrong too because i want a noe ending too -.- but i will feel bad for hiromi not ending up with shin. too bad shin doesn't have a twin or something.
Mar 25, 2008 12:46 PM

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Mar 25, 2008 3:06 PM

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this ep shows that its probaly going to be a Noe x Shin ending :[
hes goin to cry for her an shes goin to say "your tears are beautiful"

but im still hoping for Hiromi x Shin! <3

Mar 25, 2008 4:05 PM

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Lol is it just me or does anyone else get the feeling that Noe and Hiromi fans are trying to jinx the ending by saying their favourite will loose?

Hiromi-fans: "Oh no, it looks like Noe will win..."

Noe-fans: "Looks like a HiromixShin ending..."

I'm actually the same, I as Hiromi-fan also fear that Noe might win. XD
Mar 25, 2008 4:38 PM

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I'd say we say what we say in order not to get disappointed if the "unthinkable" happens. One could say it's to ease the pain. ;)

It's kind of like how I think I am going to fail my exam but in reality it's highly unlikely but in the case it does happen I don't feel as bad at the end because I already knew I was going to fail.

Heck if I wanted to insure myself I'd say they all will be single by next week.

If we got 80% or higher let me know! :)
Mar 25, 2008 5:30 PM
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Well this episode confirmed all that I've been feeling through the series; Noe is off her bloody head. But with her brother revealing his feelings finally, I suppose it's enough to send anyone off the edge...of a tree I'm not so sure 0_0

HiromixShin ending is still what I'm hoping for. Still looks likely.

Mar 25, 2008 5:39 PM

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In the space of 24 hours I've gone from 90/10 split in Hiromi's favor to setting myself up for disappointment.
Mar 25, 2008 5:51 PM

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Trineas said:
Wow that was like...fuck the what oO


I loved how they made it open who will end with whom again, even trough I think that he'll end up with Noe is now about 75%.


But apart from the drama in this episode, this is probably my favorite screenshot for the week. :}
Mar 25, 2008 7:28 PM

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DeathfireD said:
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she asked him out last episode. They're "taking it slow".
Mar 25, 2008 8:28 PM

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Were Jibeta and Raigomaru going out?
Mar 25, 2008 8:36 PM
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LOL, I wonder... xD
Mar 25, 2008 8:47 PM

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One thing led to another and Jibeta sold Raigomaru to the Tanuki for a Yuri ending...
In the meantime...something yaoi is happening in the forest...
Mar 26, 2008 1:31 AM

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I loved how Shin totally blew Hiromi off at the end of this episode to go see Noe. Then Noe falls out of a tree, poor Noe.

If they do an ending where Noe dies and gets to go see her grandmother then I will cry buckets of sadness.

If they do an ending where Noe recovers and we get a Noe x Shin ending then I will cry buckets of joy.

If they do a Hiromi x Shin ending then I will RAGE, break something near me, and then give this show an overall rating of 1 out of 10. Hiromi needs to back the hell off.
Mar 26, 2008 3:33 AM

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DigimonTamer said:
If they do a Hiromi x Shin ending then I will RAGE, break something near me, and then give this show an overall rating of 1 out of 10. Hiromi needs to back the hell off.


Oh yeah... we already discussed that kind of mature thinking in another topic... >_>
Mar 26, 2008 7:22 AM

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wow, I hope Noe's alright! and I'm hopping for a Shin x Noe ending
Hiromi looked really pretty with the yukata. and I'm glad that Aiko and Nobuse are friends again. Nobuse is a really nice guy


Mar 26, 2008 11:44 AM

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Kaoru23 said:
Wow... what an ending o_O I feel so bad for Noe.. and even for Jun ..
Well, we've seen Hiromi's ans Jun's "true tears".
I think it's a Noe ending
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How can you ask something like that. O_o;

Great episode, quite suspenseful. I can't wait for the last episode. I don't dislike Hiromi -she looked great indeed in that yukata- but I'm also rooting for a Shin x Noe ending.
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Noe ftw .

From the start Hiromi was never my ideal person for Shin just because she didn't actually do something . Is Shin hadn't a crush on her from the beginning she would be too much of a bystander (at most times) . Nothing against her but she isn't enough .

But I really hope Shin chooses Noe . He got it that she motivated him to draw and actually be firm on what he wants . If she dies that would really suck >.>

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But apart from the drama in this episode, this is probably my favorite screenshot for the week. :}


I think so too =D
Mar 26, 2008 3:15 PM

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...she fell.....SHE FELL!!.....dont discuss, CALL AN AMBULANCE ALREADY!

Apparently Im slightly becoming an Noe-fan here. Poor little thing....


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Lol is it just me or does anyone else get the feeling that Noe and Hiromi fans are trying to jinx the ending by saying their favourite will loose?

Hiromi-fans: "Oh no, it looks like Noe will win..."

Noe-fans: "Looks like a HiromixShin ending..."

I'm actually the same, I as Hiromi-fan also fear that Noe might win. XD



After watching this episode, I have to say Im happy with both endings:
ShinxNoe or ShinxHiromi.

OH NO, it looks like a ShinxJun ending! 0_0


Joking aside, WHAT A SHOW!

Its only one more episode to go and its still not clear whats going to happen. I like this aspect the most.....

In case of Jun:
Im really suprised what "right-minded" guy he is, despite his abnormal feelings towards his sister. He realised that his life can not continue like this, and did the only right thing. Breaking away and getting a new life!
Im happy that he showed Noe unmistakable why he has to go. Every other fake explanation would have left her in despair, thinking she did something wrong.


Mar 26, 2008 7:21 PM

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Noe ftw .

From the start Hiromi was never my ideal person for Shin just because she didn't actually do something . Is Shin hadn't a crush on her from the beginning she would be too much of a bystander (at most times) . Nothing against her but she isn't enough .


How dare Hiromi not want to commit what she thought would be incest!
Mar 26, 2008 8:52 PM

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DigimonTamer said:
I loved how Shin totally blew Hiromi off at the end of this episode to go see Noe. Then Noe falls out of a tree, poor Noe.


Blew Hiromi off? The only reason he wanted to see Noe is because he wants to show her the ending of the story.

If he really intended to go with Noe i really doubt that he would have chased Hiromi when she moved, or eat breakfast in her apartment, or not talk with Noe for a week.

DigimonTamer said:
If they do an ending where Noe dies and gets to go see her grandmother then I will cry buckets of sadness.


I don´t think they will let her die. Most likely Shin will get a ambulance and she will wake up with Jun by her side.

DigimonTamer said:
If they do an ending where Noe recovers and we get a Noe x Shin ending then I will cry buckets of joy.


Right now that seem like the least possible outcome. But i wonder if she will end up with her brother :)

DigimonTamer said:
If they do a Hiromi x Shin ending then I will RAGE, break something near me, and then give this show an overall rating of 1 out of 10. Hiromi needs to back the hell off.


Then start training, that´s the most likely ending to happen. And the ending i really hope for too.

But i´m glad to see that Ai have finally got over Shin and started to rebuild her relationship with Nobuse. I really hope that they take they get together as boyfriend and girlfriend again.

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Noe ftw .

From the start Hiromi was never my ideal person for Shin just because she didn't actually do something . Is Shin hadn't a crush on her from the beginning she would be too much of a bystander (at most times) . Nothing against her but she isn't enough .


Just as Westlo said, the only reason Hiromi was a bystander was because she thought that Shin was her brother. If she had known the truth then she would go after him from the start.


Mar 26, 2008 10:37 PM

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nooooooooo!!!!!
i really want to see a shin X hitomi ending im sorry Noe fans.. but i feel for hitomi even though she was being kinda stupid and not get to him first.. >_>
damit i wanted to wait for ep 13 to come out before i watched the series but i didint know what happened... -__-"


Cross my fingers for a HitomiXShin (less likely now...) cuz like when he was with hitomi, he was having flashbacks of Noe (arghhhhhh) cmon make it come true ill get dissapointed if he picks noe.. if he does ima have to give the series a 1 (not really)

maynn i hate waiting, thats y i stopped watching clannad at ep 20 so i can watch it all in one go (and cry in one go)
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Voidbringer I honestly hope I can say that you and the True Tears fanbase on 2ch (90% think it will be Noe ending whether they like it or not) have fallen into the directors trap at this stage. Considering the staff have been baiting them it's hopefully another indication that it will be a Hiromi ending.
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your words bring joy... haha

=]

ill trust you on this.. but dont worry if you are wrong, ill eventualy get over it and watch it again and accept Noe (haha)
Mar 27, 2008 4:25 AM

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Westlo said:
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Noe ftw .

From the start Hiromi was never my ideal person for Shin just because she didn't actually do something . Is Shin hadn't a crush on her from the beginning she would be too much of a bystander (at most times) . Nothing against her but she isn't enough .


How dare Hiromi not want to commit what she thought would be incest!


Exactly.
Now that she knows he is not her brother she did actually already alot. Even abit too much as I said before. Even though I more or less dislike Noe and hope for Hiromi to get Shin, I thought Hiromi was somewhat cruel in this episode by claiming to be Shins girlfriend (not yet imo o_O) and telling Noe to leave them alone.

But I really love the active plot discussion that is going on here. ^^

Too bad the series is about to be over...
Mar 27, 2008 10:02 AM

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Great episode although Hiromi annoyed me so damn much with her Shin obsession. I've never been a big fan of her.
Saw the whole incest thing coming from a mile away, I don't understand why some people seemed so shocked. It was so damn obvious. Glad he didn't decide to go for a full on kiss straight away. Noe backed off so s'all good.
Hoping for a Noe x Shin ending.

O_o at the end though. Noe better be alright.
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Hiromi looked cute in the yukata.

I still hope for Shin x Hiromi ending. Shin says he will do things properly, so he will settle with Noe first then go to Hiromi. Lots of WTF moments such as Noe's suicide. I guess she wanted to fly? That's crazy of her do that.

If Shin x Noe, this series would have taken worst one of the u-turns I've ever seen in an anime, IMO. Poor Hiromi, she's very worried ane troubled when he ran right past her.

Incest scene FTW!
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