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Oct 13, 2023 10:33 AM
#1
| Yeah, so Fyodor and Dazai were playing 200 IQ games and all that, but when they were freed, time could have been stopped, and Dazai could have snapped everyone's necks during that time or something like that. What an idiot. I mean he even says later "the signal has stopped, my partner must have been killed", so it must have been happening all the time, so you can't say "oh, time just wasn't stopped at that time. And honestly... Chuya should have just shot Fyodor or better yet, not come there at all, it makes no sense. |
Someone_OwOOct 13, 2023 1:21 PM
Oct 13, 2023 10:40 AM
#2
| yeah, i noticed that too, not the 'why didn't he kill everyone' specifically but that he got out of his cell and back within this supposed "dozen or so seconds" multiple times and didn't take countermeasures against fyodor's way of communication. |
Oct 13, 2023 10:58 AM
#3
| I didn't get it clearly I think..... can you explain please a bit more on this |
Oct 13, 2023 11:05 AM
#4
Reply to Madhav001
I didn't get it clearly I think..... can you explain please a bit more on this
| @Madhav001 Watch the scene when they were freed from their cells. That is when this should have happened. |
Oct 13, 2023 11:40 AM
#5
Someone_OwO said: Yeah, so Fyodor and Dazai were playing 200 IQ games and all that, but when they were saved, time could have been stopped, and Dazai could have snapped everyone's necks during that time or something like that. What an idiot. I mean he even says later "the signal has stopped, my partner must have been killed", so it must have been happening all the time, so you can't say "oh, time just wasn't stopped at that time. And honestly... Chuya should have just shot Fyodor or better yet, not come there at all, it makes no sense. omg wait fr, i just realized that. Dazai could kill Fyodor the moment they got out of the cell. hm i forgot, wasnt Chuuya hypnotized or smth? |
rikkahehOct 13, 2023 11:44 AM
Oct 13, 2023 11:49 AM
#6
| i mean you never know all of them have seriously messed up brian dazai probably wanted to have fun or something or since both fyodor and dazai think the same he probably thought that fyodor would've saw it coming u know |
Oct 13, 2023 12:00 PM
#7
chuuyalvrr said: i mean you never know all of them have seriously messed up brian dazai probably wanted to have fun or something or since both fyodor and dazai think the same he probably thought that fyodor would've saw it coming u know okay, lets say he saw it coming but what can he really do about it when the time is stopped? i think it really is because Dazai wants to have more fun because ending it right away would be boring :D |
Oct 13, 2023 12:01 PM
#8
rikkaheh said: chuuyalvrr said: i mean you never know all of them have seriously messed up brian dazai probably wanted to have fun or something or since both fyodor and dazai think the same he probably thought that fyodor would've saw it coming u know okay, lets say he saw it coming but what can he really do about it when the time is stopped? it think it really is because Dazai wants to have more fun because ending it right away would be boring :D for real tho it's just a dazai thing |
Oct 13, 2023 12:07 PM
#9
chuuyalvrr said: rikkaheh said: chuuyalvrr said: i mean you never know all of them have seriously messed up brian dazai probably wanted to have fun or something or since both fyodor and dazai think the same he probably thought that fyodor would've saw it coming u know okay, lets say he saw it coming but what can he really do about it when the time is stopped? it think it really is because Dazai wants to have more fun because ending it right away would be boring :D for real tho it's just a dazai thing i can really imagine him doing that :p but if he could have atleast did smth about the girl that has the ability to stop the time, he really just let her get killed, i mean its Dazai, there is no way he didnt know she was abt to get killed but well, this wasnt explained on the anime so who knows what really happened. |
Oct 13, 2023 12:16 PM
#10
Someone_OwO said: @Madhav001 Watch the scene when they were freed from their cells. That is when this should have happened. Ok so as you said I watched the scene again just now...... and.... Yeah he could have easily killed Fyodor right away and Chuya if was in his right mind... should not have come there in the first place ..... Maybe Dazai wanted Fyodor to think he has got the upper hand by having Chuya with him.... and about the immediate kills even though that is easily the best course of action... We all know Dazai won't do it that easily... that would be too boring for him.... But the thing is... If this was thought like Dazai wouldn't prefer it this way(boring way, easy kill).... the show would have shown us that part of Dazai's thinking in the end for sure or at any part given us a hint about it. And I am sure it was not intentional but it works in Dazai's case😁 |
Oct 13, 2023 12:19 PM
#11
| I am sure that the show would have shown Dazai outwitting Fyodor and telling " I could have killed you easily earlier but it would have been too boring......" But since no hint was given, it can safely be assumed that the writers didn't intend to go with boring stuff rather, they wanted to show that it was difficult to outwit Fyodor for Dazai. |
Oct 13, 2023 1:44 PM
#12
| yeah I thought the Chuuya thing made a bit of sense, but I also hated it cuz why would he even pretend to be a vampire. Like you said, he could've just shot Fyodor when he busted in |
Oct 13, 2023 1:58 PM
#13
| I’m pretty sure he just wanted to have fun with it and toy with Fyodor knowing that Chuuya was on his side and they were guaranteed to win in the end |
Oct 13, 2023 10:21 PM
#14
Reply to kakashis_sidehoe
I’m pretty sure he just wanted to have fun with it and toy with Fyodor knowing that Chuuya was on his side and they were guaranteed to win in the end
| @kakashis_sidehoe That makes actually even less sense now that you mention it, because it just means that Chuuya and Dazai just waited for Fyodor to kill the time stopping girl and did nothing. If that was planned from the start, it would have been mentioned. |
Oct 13, 2023 10:22 PM
#15
| the way I see it: dazai didn't kill gaurds coz well ...at the end of day they r just people doing there jobs y would he kill innocents? he didn't kill fyodor coz it was too much of a risk.... knowing him he must have had contingencies in place.... besides v r still not sure if even dazai knows all of fyodor's abilities ( even tho he can cancel abilities...it's simply was just too risky) u don't actually believe gravity guy could shoot down fyododr right....I mean there's a reason y the rat has survived amongst the decay of angels...taking him 1 on 1 was way more dangerous. or just plot armour idk.🗿 |
Oct 13, 2023 10:30 PM
#16
Reply to Kvothe_1
the way I see it:
dazai didn't kill gaurds coz well ...at the end of day they r just people doing there jobs y would he kill innocents?
he didn't kill fyodor coz it was too much of a risk.... knowing him he must have had contingencies in place.... besides v r still not sure if even dazai knows all of fyodor's abilities ( even tho he can cancel abilities...it's simply was just too risky)
u don't actually believe gravity guy could shoot down fyododr right....I mean there's a reason y the rat has survived amongst the decay of angels...taking him 1 on 1 was way more dangerous.
or just plot armour idk.🗿
dazai didn't kill gaurds coz well ...at the end of day they r just people doing there jobs y would he kill innocents?
he didn't kill fyodor coz it was too much of a risk.... knowing him he must have had contingencies in place.... besides v r still not sure if even dazai knows all of fyodor's abilities ( even tho he can cancel abilities...it's simply was just too risky)
u don't actually believe gravity guy could shoot down fyododr right....I mean there's a reason y the rat has survived amongst the decay of angels...taking him 1 on 1 was way more dangerous.
or just plot armour idk.🗿
| @Kvothe_1 Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck. And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place. |
Oct 14, 2023 12:39 AM
#17
Someone_OwO said: @Kvothe_1 Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck. And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place. for real, the anime could have ended already if he didnt came because remember that scene when Dazai trapped him and the water was released, Fyodor should have been drowned already but Chuuya helped him even though he wasnt hypnotized... jeez |
Oct 14, 2023 12:51 AM
#18
Someone_OwO said: @Kvothe_1 Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck. And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place. Dazai could have killed Fyodor many times in many ways in the previous seasons too. and the same goes for Fyodor. they want to have fun I mean they can't always get a worthy opponent like each other. they both were confident in them self's and they both thought ware superior each other. they ware testing the levels of each other. and for the damage for Fyodor's palm. Dazai broke his arm. and for the damage to Dazai broke arm Fyodor lost his entire arm. and it's still not confirmed that Fyodor is actually dead and what are his ability. who nows he may have survived some how ( maby plot) . and it's just like exchanging punches for them not the finishing blow but with their intelligence. they are have fun of their life time maby and that's one way to think about it or we can always say THAT'S JUST LAZY WRITING. or an unspoken rule in the entire anime history that you can't kill the final boss, hero or Mc till the mane event. will those are my thoughts on the topic. tell what do you think |
Yeshaiah2015yeshOct 14, 2023 12:59 AM
Oct 14, 2023 12:56 AM
#19
rikkaheh said: Someone_OwO said: @Kvothe_1 Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck. And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place. for real, the anime could have ended already if he didnt came because remember that scene when Dazai trapped him and the water was released, Fyodor should have been drowned already but Chuuya helped him even though he wasnt hypnotized... jeez for that. chuya maby not be a vampire but their ware vampire under Fyodor command. who knows what might have happen. if Fyodor has to die he could have ordered the vampire to blow up the entire place. can't make silly mistakes can they |
Yeshaiah2015yeshOct 14, 2023 10:19 AM
Oct 14, 2023 8:46 AM
#20
Yeshaiah2015yesh said: rikkaheh said: Someone_OwO said: @Kvothe_1 Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck. And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place. for real, the anime could have ended already if he didnt came because remember that scene when Dazai trapped him and the water was released, Fyodor should have been drowned already but Chuuya helped him even though he wasnt hypnotized... jeez for that chuya maby not a vampire but their ware vampire under Fyodor comand who knows what might happen. if he has to die he could have ordered them to blow up the entire place. can't make silly mistakes can they What? Chuuya was never under the command of Fyodor. It was explained in the end that Chuuya was just faking it and is playing along with Dazai's plan. The what? Who has to die and who will order who? Are you telling me that Dazai is supposed to blow up the entire place just to kill Fyodor? Including the time stopping girl and all other innocent lives? |
Oct 14, 2023 10:07 AM
#21
rikkaheh said: Yeshaiah2015yesh said: rikkaheh said: Someone_OwO said: @Kvothe_1 Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck. And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place. for real, the anime could have ended already if he didnt came because remember that scene when Dazai trapped him and the water was released, Fyodor should have been drowned already but Chuuya helped him even though he wasnt hypnotized... jeez for that chuya maby not a vampire but their ware vampire under Fyodor comand who knows what might happen. if he has to die he could have ordered them to blow up the entire place. can't make silly mistakes can they What? Chuuya was never under the command of Fyodor. It was explained in the end that Chuuya was just faking it and is playing along with Dazai's plan. The what? Who has to die and who will order who? Are you telling me that Dazai is supposed to blow up the entire place just to kill Fyodor? Including the time stopping girl and all other innocent lives? you don't understand with short explanation do you. at that time vampire were in control of Fyodor so if he has to die he may ordered to blow up the entire place. taking control over vampire was a last minute change after removing the sword from the really vampire and Rampo made deal with the vampire king. it wasn't perfectly planned he just believed in his friends. That's why Dazai said to Fyodor÷you can't trust any thing that you can't control. And more importantly and also the answer to your question is below what makes Fyodor and Dazai dangerous isn't their abilities but their intelligence and Chuuya was under cover if he didn't do has Fyodor said he understands what going on and can act and counter Dazai plans with with taking measures. and if Chuuya didn't damage the sides which help moving the doors or what they are they both would have trapped inside after the doors closed the special abilities of users won't work on the door which nullifies the ability he did damage the door but the mechanism that closes the doors. so yah Chuuya didn't hade much of a choice their other act self-accordingly. and remember they are in the park for a walk but in the world secured cell/jail or whatever that is. for Dazai and Fyodor escaping from it won't be a big deal but for Chuuya it's not the same. and he couldn't kill Dazai for some many years not because of Dazai abilitie but because of his intelligence. and one more thing we don't know what abilitie Fyodor has and on top of that he is damm clever. it would be stupid for Chuuya to do anything reckless let alone try and weight for opportunity to kill Fyodor. he would ha found out before Chuuya dous anything it would nothing but waste and stupid to pull one over on Fyodor if you don't understand what I said please read one's more you'll get a better understanding of what iam saying |
Oct 14, 2023 10:17 AM
#22
rikkaheh said: Yeshaiah2015yesh said: rikkaheh said: Someone_OwO said: @Kvothe_1 Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck. And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place. for real, the anime could have ended already if he didnt came because remember that scene when Dazai trapped him and the water was released, Fyodor should have been drowned already but Chuuya helped him even though he wasnt hypnotized... jeez for that chuya maby not a vampire but their ware vampire under Fyodor comand who knows what might happen. if he has to die he could have ordered them to blow up the entire place. can't make silly mistakes can they What? Chuuya was never under the command of Fyodor. It was explained in the end that Chuuya was just faking it and is playing along with Dazai's plan. The what? Who has to die and who will order who? Are you telling me that Dazai is supposed to blow up the entire place just to kill Fyodor? Including the time stopping girl and all other innocent lives? and for my previous quote I edited it with full stops and mentioned with names instead of using he,him,or they.i wrote in a hurry so that was a mistake at my end. please read it this time it won't be a mess as it previously was |
Oct 14, 2023 11:10 AM
#23
Yeshaiah2015yesh said: rikkaheh said: Yeshaiah2015yesh said: rikkaheh said: Someone_OwO said: @Kvothe_1 Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck. And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place. for real, the anime could have ended already if he didnt came because remember that scene when Dazai trapped him and the water was released, Fyodor should have been drowned already but Chuuya helped him even though he wasnt hypnotized... jeez for that chuya maby not a vampire but their ware vampire under Fyodor comand who knows what might happen. if he has to die he could have ordered them to blow up the entire place. can't make silly mistakes can they What? Chuuya was never under the command of Fyodor. It was explained in the end that Chuuya was just faking it and is playing along with Dazai's plan. The what? Who has to die and who will order who? Are you telling me that Dazai is supposed to blow up the entire place just to kill Fyodor? Including the time stopping girl and all other innocent lives? you don't understand with short explanation do you. at that time vampire were in control of Fyodor so if he has to die he may ordered to blow up the entire place. taking control over vampire was a last minute change after removing the sword from the really vampire and Rampo made deal with the vampire king. it wasn't perfectly planned he just believed in his friends. That's why Dazai said to Fyodor÷you can't trust any thing that you can't control. And more importantly and also the answer to your question is below what makes Fyodor and Dazai dangerous isn't their abilities but their intelligence and Chuuya was under cover if he didn't do has Fyodor said he understands what going on and can act and counter Dazai plans with with taking measures. and if Chuuya didn't damage the sides which help moving the doors or what they are they both would have trapped inside after the doors closed the special abilities of users won't work on the door which nullifies the ability he did damage the door but the mechanism that closes the doors. so yah Chuuya didn't hade much of a choice their other act self-accordingly. and remember they are in the park for a walk but in the world secured cell/jail or whatever that is. for Dazai and Fyodor escaping from it won't be a big deal but for Chuuya it's not the same. and he couldn't kill Dazai for some many years not because of Dazai abilitie but because of his intelligence. and one more thing we don't know what abilitie Fyodor has and on top of that he is damm clever. it would be stupid for Chuuya to do anything reckless let alone try and weight for opportunity to kill Fyodor. he would ha found out before Chuuya dous anything it would nothing but waste and stupid to pull one over on Fyodor if you don't understand what I said please read one's more you'll get a better understanding of what iam saying Ofc i wouldnt understand if you arent being specific. Uhm no? The vampires werent under the control of Fyodor. It was the Haunting Dogs and the one who has the control of the Vampire King (ill shorten it to VK because ill be mentioning this name a lot) was the captain, Fukuchi. So let say Fyodor was about to get killed or Fyodor already got killed and Fukuchi recieved some sort of signal to order all the vampires to cause destruction all over the city, but the thing is, that wont happen, why? Because the girl stole the VK and ran away with it, meaning Fukuchi has lost control over the VK. Unless the VK itself would take in charge but no, we all know that the VK was just kind of forced to do all of this because Fukuchi has the VK's life in his hands and he has control over his powers when he holds the sword that seals VK's true power. Also, the VK is already attached to the girl who was with him and the girl even gave her phone to the VK so that he can listen to music while sleeping, so it is very unlikely for the VK to take in charge, VK has his own free will after all. That's why im saying Chuuya should have never came in the first place. Dazai didnt need Chuuya to go under cover acting under Fyodor's command. Dazai is with the girl who can stop time, so if Dazai's stops the time, Fyodor is guaranteed to die without a doubt, because i mean, the time was stopped, what can Fyodor possibly do in that situation? Dazai could easily slit Fyodor's throat or whatever methods he plans Fyodor to get killed. Okay, lets say maybe Fyodor's ability prevents him of being affected by the time stop but that wouldnt make sense because if that were the case there is no way Dazai wouldnt notice and the biggest reason for that to be not possible is if Fyodor's ability really allows him to do whatever he wants even when the time is stopped, why did he never figure out Dazai's way of communicating outside? |
rikkahehOct 14, 2023 11:17 AM
Oct 14, 2023 11:58 AM
#24
Reply to rikkaheh
Yeshaiah2015yesh said:
you don't understand with short explanation do you.
at that time vampire were in control of Fyodor so if he has to die he may ordered to blow up the entire place.
taking control over vampire was a last minute change
after removing the sword from the really vampire and
Rampo made deal with the vampire king. it wasn't perfectly planned he just believed in his friends. That's why Dazai said to Fyodor÷you can't trust any thing that you can't control.
And more importantly and also the answer to your question is below
what makes Fyodor and Dazai dangerous isn't their abilities but their intelligence and Chuuya was under cover if he didn't do has Fyodor said he understands what going on and can act and counter Dazai plans with with taking measures. and if Chuuya didn't damage the sides which help moving the doors or what they are they both would have trapped inside after the doors closed the special abilities of users won't work on the door which nullifies the ability he did damage the door but the mechanism that closes the doors. so yah Chuuya didn't hade much of a choice their other act self-accordingly. and remember they are in the park for a walk but in the world secured cell/jail or whatever that is. for Dazai and Fyodor escaping from it won't be a big deal but for Chuuya it's not the same. and he couldn't kill Dazai for some many years not because of Dazai abilitie but because of his intelligence.
and one more thing we don't know what abilitie Fyodor has and on top of that he is damm clever. it would be stupid for Chuuya to do anything reckless let alone try and weight for opportunity to kill Fyodor.
he would ha found out before Chuuya dous anything it would nothing but waste and stupid to pull one over on Fyodor
if you don't understand what I said please read one's more you'll get a better understanding of what iam saying
rikkaheh said:
What? Chuuya was never under the command of Fyodor. It was explained in the end that Chuuya was just faking it and is playing along with Dazai's plan. The what? Who has to die and who will order who? Are you telling me that Dazai is supposed to blow up the entire place just to kill Fyodor? Including the time stopping girl and all other innocent lives?
Yeshaiah2015yesh said:
for that chuya maby not a vampire but their ware vampire under Fyodor comand who knows what might happen. if he has to die he could have ordered them to blow up the entire place. can't make silly mistakes can they
rikkaheh said:
for real, the anime could have ended already if he didnt came because remember that scene when Dazai trapped him and the water was released, Fyodor should have been drowned already but Chuuya helped him even though he wasnt hypnotized... jeez
Someone_OwO said:
@Kvothe_1
Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck.
And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place.
@Kvothe_1
Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck.
And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place.
for real, the anime could have ended already if he didnt came because remember that scene when Dazai trapped him and the water was released, Fyodor should have been drowned already but Chuuya helped him even though he wasnt hypnotized... jeez
for that chuya maby not a vampire but their ware vampire under Fyodor comand who knows what might happen. if he has to die he could have ordered them to blow up the entire place. can't make silly mistakes can they
What? Chuuya was never under the command of Fyodor. It was explained in the end that Chuuya was just faking it and is playing along with Dazai's plan. The what? Who has to die and who will order who? Are you telling me that Dazai is supposed to blow up the entire place just to kill Fyodor? Including the time stopping girl and all other innocent lives?
you don't understand with short explanation do you.
at that time vampire were in control of Fyodor so if he has to die he may ordered to blow up the entire place.
taking control over vampire was a last minute change
after removing the sword from the really vampire and
Rampo made deal with the vampire king. it wasn't perfectly planned he just believed in his friends. That's why Dazai said to Fyodor÷you can't trust any thing that you can't control.
And more importantly and also the answer to your question is below
what makes Fyodor and Dazai dangerous isn't their abilities but their intelligence and Chuuya was under cover if he didn't do has Fyodor said he understands what going on and can act and counter Dazai plans with with taking measures. and if Chuuya didn't damage the sides which help moving the doors or what they are they both would have trapped inside after the doors closed the special abilities of users won't work on the door which nullifies the ability he did damage the door but the mechanism that closes the doors. so yah Chuuya didn't hade much of a choice their other act self-accordingly. and remember they are in the park for a walk but in the world secured cell/jail or whatever that is. for Dazai and Fyodor escaping from it won't be a big deal but for Chuuya it's not the same. and he couldn't kill Dazai for some many years not because of Dazai abilitie but because of his intelligence.
and one more thing we don't know what abilitie Fyodor has and on top of that he is damm clever. it would be stupid for Chuuya to do anything reckless let alone try and weight for opportunity to kill Fyodor.
he would ha found out before Chuuya dous anything it would nothing but waste and stupid to pull one over on Fyodor
if you don't understand what I said please read one's more you'll get a better understanding of what iam saying
Ofc i wouldnt understand if you arent being specific. Uhm no? The vampires werent under the control of Fyodor. It was the Haunting Dogs and the one who has the control of the Vampire King (ill shorten it to VK because ill be mentioning this name a lot) was the captain, Fukuchi. So let say Fyodor was about to get killed or Fyodor already got killed and Fukuchi recieved some sort of signal to order all the vampires to cause destruction all over the city, but the thing is, that wont happen, why? Because the girl stole the VK and ran away with it, meaning Fukuchi has lost control over the VK. Unless the VK itself would take in charge but no, we all know that the VK was just kind of forced to do all of this because Fukuchi has the VK's life in his hands and he has control over his powers when he holds the sword that seals VK's true power. Also, the VK is already attached to the girl who was with him and the girl even gave her phone to the VK so that he can listen to music while sleeping, so it is very unlikely for the VK to take in charge, VK has his own free will after all.
That's why im saying Chuuya should have never came in the first place. Dazai didnt need Chuuya to go under cover acting under Fyodor's command. Dazai is with the girl who can stop time, so if Dazai's stops the time, Fyodor is guaranteed to die without a doubt, because i mean, the time was stopped, what can Fyodor possibly do in that situation? Dazai could easily slit Fyodor's throat or whatever methods he plans Fyodor to get killed. Okay, lets say maybe Fyodor's ability prevents him of being affected by the time stop but that wouldnt make sense because if that were the case there is no way Dazai wouldnt notice and the biggest reason for that to be not possible is if Fyodor's ability really allows him to do whatever he wants even when the time is stopped, why did he never figure out Dazai's way of communicating outside?
| @rikkaheh Don't bother, he clearly doesn't understand you and doesn't seem to know what he is even saying. You are probably talking with someone who does not normally speak English. |
Oct 14, 2023 1:14 PM
#25
| Well first he can only snap for few secs ig considering his subordinates power, and that too if he did that or lets say chuya just killed dostoevsky, then we all know that those guards and vampires will attack them dirty (which ig most guards were vampires already). U say why, cuz that's how fyodor been communicating with the outside world, so yeah Dazai wasn't dumb he just knew what he doing and playing it safe, there's no way he was getting checkmate in this 8D chess |
Oct 14, 2023 1:49 PM
#26
Reply to m0rt14k3
Well first he can only snap for few secs ig considering his subordinates power, and that too if he did that or lets say chuya just killed dostoevsky, then we all know that those guards and vampires will attack them dirty (which ig most guards were vampires already). U say why, cuz that's how fyodor been communicating with the outside world, so yeah Dazai wasn't dumb he just knew what he doing and playing it safe, there's no way he was getting checkmate in this 8D chess
| @m0rt14k3 Dazai knocked like 20 people unconscious at one point while time was stopped, think about that before replying. |
Oct 14, 2023 1:51 PM
#27
Someone_OwO said: @m0rt14k3 Dazai knocked like 20 people unconscious at one point while time was stopped, think about that before replying. ye but were guards not vampires... |
Oct 14, 2023 4:20 PM
#28
rikkaheh said: Yeshaiah2015yesh said: rikkaheh said: Yeshaiah2015yesh said: rikkaheh said: Someone_OwO said: @Kvothe_1 Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck. And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place. for real, the anime could have ended already if he didnt came because remember that scene when Dazai trapped him and the water was released, Fyodor should have been drowned already but Chuuya helped him even though he wasnt hypnotized... jeez for that chuya maby not a vampire but their ware vampire under Fyodor comand who knows what might happen. if he has to die he could have ordered them to blow up the entire place. can't make silly mistakes can they What? Chuuya was never under the command of Fyodor. It was explained in the end that Chuuya was just faking it and is playing along with Dazai's plan. The what? Who has to die and who will order who? Are you telling me that Dazai is supposed to blow up the entire place just to kill Fyodor? Including the time stopping girl and all other innocent lives? you don't understand with short explanation do you. at that time vampire were in control of Fyodor so if he has to die he may ordered to blow up the entire place. taking control over vampire was a last minute change after removing the sword from the really vampire and Rampo made deal with the vampire king. it wasn't perfectly planned he just believed in his friends. That's why Dazai said to Fyodor÷you can't trust any thing that you can't control. And more importantly and also the answer to your question is below what makes Fyodor and Dazai dangerous isn't their abilities but their intelligence and Chuuya was under cover if he didn't do has Fyodor said he understands what going on and can act and counter Dazai plans with with taking measures. and if Chuuya didn't damage the sides which help moving the doors or what they are they both would have trapped inside after the doors closed the special abilities of users won't work on the door which nullifies the ability he did damage the door but the mechanism that closes the doors. so yah Chuuya didn't hade much of a choice their other act self-accordingly. and remember they are in the park for a walk but in the world secured cell/jail or whatever that is. for Dazai and Fyodor escaping from it won't be a big deal but for Chuuya it's not the same. and he couldn't kill Dazai for some many years not because of Dazai abilitie but because of his intelligence. and one more thing we don't know what abilitie Fyodor has and on top of that he is damm clever. it would be stupid for Chuuya to do anything reckless let alone try and weight for opportunity to kill Fyodor. he would ha found out before Chuuya dous anything it would nothing but waste and stupid to pull one over on Fyodor if you don't understand what I said please read one's more you'll get a better understanding of what iam saying Ofc i wouldnt understand if you arent being specific. Uhm no? The vampires werent under the control of Fyodor. It was the Haunting Dogs and the one who has the control of the Vampire King (ill shorten it to VK because ill be mentioning this name a lot) was the captain, Fukuchi. So let say Fyodor was about to get killed or Fyodor already got killed and Fukuchi recieved some sort of signal to order all the vampires to cause destruction all over the city, but the thing is, that wont happen, why? Because the girl stole the VK and ran away with it, meaning Fukuchi has lost control over the VK. Unless the VK itself would take in charge but no, we all know that the VK was just kind of forced to do all of this because Fukuchi has the VK's life in his hands and he has control over his powers when he holds the sword that seals VK's true power. Also, the VK is already attached to the girl who was with him and the girl even gave her phone to the VK so that he can listen to music while sleeping, so it is very unlikely for the VK to take in charge, VK has his own free will after all. That's why im saying Chuuya should have never came in the first place. Dazai didnt need Chuuya to go under cover acting under Fyodor's command. Dazai is with the girl who can stop time, so if Dazai's stops the time, Fyodor is guaranteed to die without a doubt, because i mean, the time was stopped, what can Fyodor possibly do in that situation? Dazai could easily slit Fyodor's throat or whatever methods he plans Fyodor to get killed. Okay, lets say maybe Fyodor's ability prevents him of being affected by the time stop but that wouldnt make sense because if that were the case there is no way Dazai wouldnt notice and the biggest reason for that to be not possible is if Fyodor's ability really allows him to do whatever he wants even when the time is stopped, why did he never figure out Dazai's way of communicating outside? man what the FUCK bro what are you even talking about do you understand just how stupid you SOUND right now. that's why I said read it again if for chicken brain won't understand. and it seems like you didn't even bothered to read my quote properly not only that you didn't even understand what happened in the anime. what the FUCK vk vk vk vk don't you even know hunting dogs are working with Fyodor. and get to your head straight Fyodor lost control over vampire after he got out of the prison . if you don't understand you should start watching simple anime first and come again watch this anime from tha start or give me your number ill explain it to you so you can understand what actually happening in the anime |
Oct 14, 2023 4:33 PM
#29
| and my typing had some careless mistakes so yah if you don't understand I can correct it. |
Oct 15, 2023 12:58 AM
#30
Yeshaiah2015yesh said: rikkaheh said: Yeshaiah2015yesh said: rikkaheh said: Yeshaiah2015yesh said: rikkaheh said: Someone_OwO said: @Kvothe_1 Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck. And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place. for real, the anime could have ended already if he didnt came because remember that scene when Dazai trapped him and the water was released, Fyodor should have been drowned already but Chuuya helped him even though he wasnt hypnotized... jeez for that chuya maby not a vampire but their ware vampire under Fyodor comand who knows what might happen. if he has to die he could have ordered them to blow up the entire place. can't make silly mistakes can they What? Chuuya was never under the command of Fyodor. It was explained in the end that Chuuya was just faking it and is playing along with Dazai's plan. The what? Who has to die and who will order who? Are you telling me that Dazai is supposed to blow up the entire place just to kill Fyodor? Including the time stopping girl and all other innocent lives? you don't understand with short explanation do you. at that time vampire were in control of Fyodor so if he has to die he may ordered to blow up the entire place. taking control over vampire was a last minute change after removing the sword from the really vampire and Rampo made deal with the vampire king. it wasn't perfectly planned he just believed in his friends. That's why Dazai said to Fyodor÷you can't trust any thing that you can't control. And more importantly and also the answer to your question is below what makes Fyodor and Dazai dangerous isn't their abilities but their intelligence and Chuuya was under cover if he didn't do has Fyodor said he understands what going on and can act and counter Dazai plans with with taking measures. and if Chuuya didn't damage the sides which help moving the doors or what they are they both would have trapped inside after the doors closed the special abilities of users won't work on the door which nullifies the ability he did damage the door but the mechanism that closes the doors. so yah Chuuya didn't hade much of a choice their other act self-accordingly. and remember they are in the park for a walk but in the world secured cell/jail or whatever that is. for Dazai and Fyodor escaping from it won't be a big deal but for Chuuya it's not the same. and he couldn't kill Dazai for some many years not because of Dazai abilitie but because of his intelligence. and one more thing we don't know what abilitie Fyodor has and on top of that he is damm clever. it would be stupid for Chuuya to do anything reckless let alone try and weight for opportunity to kill Fyodor. he would ha found out before Chuuya dous anything it would nothing but waste and stupid to pull one over on Fyodor if you don't understand what I said please read one's more you'll get a better understanding of what iam saying Ofc i wouldnt understand if you arent being specific. Uhm no? The vampires werent under the control of Fyodor. It was the Haunting Dogs and the one who has the control of the Vampire King (ill shorten it to VK because ill be mentioning this name a lot) was the captain, Fukuchi. So let say Fyodor was about to get killed or Fyodor already got killed and Fukuchi recieved some sort of signal to order all the vampires to cause destruction all over the city, but the thing is, that wont happen, why? Because the girl stole the VK and ran away with it, meaning Fukuchi has lost control over the VK. Unless the VK itself would take in charge but no, we all know that the VK was just kind of forced to do all of this because Fukuchi has the VK's life in his hands and he has control over his powers when he holds the sword that seals VK's true power. Also, the VK is already attached to the girl who was with him and the girl even gave her phone to the VK so that he can listen to music while sleeping, so it is very unlikely for the VK to take in charge, VK has his own free will after all. That's why im saying Chuuya should have never came in the first place. Dazai didnt need Chuuya to go under cover acting under Fyodor's command. Dazai is with the girl who can stop time, so if Dazai's stops the time, Fyodor is guaranteed to die without a doubt, because i mean, the time was stopped, what can Fyodor possibly do in that situation? Dazai could easily slit Fyodor's throat or whatever methods he plans Fyodor to get killed. Okay, lets say maybe Fyodor's ability prevents him of being affected by the time stop but that wouldnt make sense because if that were the case there is no way Dazai wouldnt notice and the biggest reason for that to be not possible is if Fyodor's ability really allows him to do whatever he wants even when the time is stopped, why did he never figure out Dazai's way of communicating outside? man what the FUCK bro what are you even talking about do you understand just how stupid you SOUND right now. that's why I said read it again if for chicken brain won't understand. and it seems like you didn't even bothered to read my quote properly not only that you didn't even understand what happened in the anime. what the FUCK vk vk vk vk don't you even know hunting dogs are working with Fyodor. and get to your head straight Fyodor lost control over vampire after he got out of the prison . if you don't understand you should start watching simple anime first and come again watch this anime from tha start or give me your number ill explain it to you so you can understand what actually happening in the anime bro wtf? did u even read? i clearly said Haunting Dogs was working under Fyodor. Thats it, im done wasting time with people who doesnt even tries to understand what is being talked about. This is why i dont talk to brain dead people like you. Its hard to have a normal and understanding conversation. I suggest you rewatch the anime because you clearly dont even know what you're talking about. Dont expect any replies from me and i wont read it even if you ever replied. Have a nice day human. |
rikkahehOct 15, 2023 1:04 AM
Oct 15, 2023 1:01 AM
#31
Someone_OwO said: @rikkaheh Don't bother, he clearly doesn't understand you and doesn't seem to know what he is even saying. You are probably talking with someone who does not normally speak English. i couldnt agree more with you. |
Oct 15, 2023 10:18 AM
#32
Someone_OwO said: Yeah, so Fyodor and Dazai were playing 200 IQ games and all that, but when they were freed, time could have been stopped, and Dazai could have snapped everyone's necks during that time or something like that. What an idiot. I mean he even says later "the signal has stopped, my partner must have been killed", so it must have been happening all the time, so you can't say "oh, time just wasn't stopped at that time. And honestly... Chuya should have just shot Fyodor or better yet, not come there at all, it makes no sense. dazai wanted to have fun ig, plus they technically needed all of them at play fir the escape to work. on top of all that, dazai wanted to BEAT fyodors game and find out what his ability was, he doesnt necesarily want to kill people either, otherwise he would still be with the port mafia. |
Oct 16, 2023 6:15 AM
#33
| Probably bc Dazai needs info about Fyodor plan/power with Sigma as his method to do so Although in the end it doesnt matter if Dazai learned Fyodor power or not |
Oct 17, 2023 9:36 PM
#34
Someone_OwO said: @Kvothe_1 Fyodor didn't know that Dazai was communicating with the outside world by stopping time. That means he couldn't do anything while time was stopped, which means that he couldn't have done anything if Dazai just stopped time and snapped his neck. And even Sigma could shoot Fyodor without Fyodor being able to do anything. Oh yeah, sure, you can say that Fyodor would have manipulated Chuuya in the span of 0.001 seconds when the bullet hits the back of his head without him knowing Chuuya was a traitor in the first place. Fyodor couldn't have done anything and don't focus on the example. Chuuya should never have come there in the first place. Fyodor teased that he knew that Dazai communicated courage to the outside world. He probably just wasn't sure how. Dazai could have killed Fyodor himself, but he doesn't know Fyodor's ability and in the worst case it would have only killed him on contact (we could see that Dazai cannot neutralize all abilities. Under special circumstances they are still active). Chuuya could have shot him, but there would have been a risk that Fyodor would have seen it coming and killed Chuuya with his ability |
Jan 1, 10:21 AM
#35
| Dazai is a suicidal man and likes to put his life in danger for fun Just like that 😅 |
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