| Ok, full disclosure, I almost finish this anime, for me it's just OK, but can't help notice some flaws in the writing or scene structuring Ep2 - Virtual crime scene analysis Atom is introduced as a super advanced AI (reasoning being only one of many perks), but when this scene starts, Atom is dumb, here is why. The main investigator is dead set than the culprit was a robot, but Atom suggest otherwise by pointing out than there was fresh tea served right before the event, "who would serve tea for a robot?" he asks. Ok, if you already watched ep1, you know this is bullcrap, it has already been stabilized that robots mimic the act of eating and drinking and it's normal to offer them something to drink as if they were humans. Guess what? Police officer states that as well. In response, Atom then follows it up by pointing out than they then watched the flowers, "would a robot appreciate beauty in nature?" To which the (racist) policeman can't answer giving reason to Atom... except we as an audience already had a 40 minute arc in episode 1 all about robots appreciating art, Atom himself can appreciate art being all advance and super smart... except all this just made a fool of him. Anyways, after this, Atom proceeds to actually showcase his advance thinking which I can't deny was great, but what came before didn't do anything for Atom or the series as a whole. Ep6 (or was it 5?) - Gesicht in Persia Ok, there are two nitpicks here. Dude is walking along the streets in Persia while doing a videocall (or holocall) with... his hand on his ear? What for? He is a robot, if it weren't a call he might not even need to move his mouth to talk, or at least he should try to make the talk more private. Anyway, for the second. Gesich is interviewing a guy if first mistakes for a robot because he has many robotic implants. At the final question, Geshich sensor finally categorizes the guy as human, since he lied to which Geshich himself states out loud "Robots can't lie" except Gesich, in this point of the series knows is a lie itself, robots can lie... except they don't know they are lying which was his own case when he lied about his past because his memories where altered. In other words, he is lying again by stating that fact outloud. Ep1 - who hires a butler that doesn't listen Ok, this is more petty, but come on. The butler doesn't take direct commands, I know robots are free and all that and are free to choose professions, but also the old man is free to get a butler that takes direct commands. Since tge old man actually fired him, it seems he had some control about who was his butler... again, this butler didn't even obey being fired. |
| 35 years old ossan who still watches anime |
| Were you dropped as a toddler? I ask respectfully. |
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| I mean, if you disregard that Robots in the Pluto setting are evolving, becoming their own beings capable of free thought and choices, then a lot of things would seem out of place. The mimicry that Robots initially perform becomes genuine with experience and memories, and memories have a very important role in the narrative. I would say that they move the entire plot. Just ignoring that tiny bit of important element to the entire setting and plot aint it. |
 "Don't let your memes be dreams."- Ancient Japanese proverb, probably |
| are you simply going to ignore the fact that the robots are evolving? this literally takes place after robots got rights and have become more and more human. that's pretty much the point of the show; it uses robots as characters to explore themes about humanity. not a hard thing to grasp smh |
Reply to 24846
Some of theee r just stupid, like u didn’t even pay attention or something.
1- that’s the point. Robots, or atom in this case, don’t believe, that they themselves, can appreciate things like humans do, such as nature. But atom is WRONG. That’s the point of the entire episode 1.
2- is just a stupid ass complaint that you’d see on cinema sins and if u actually let stuff like that influence your opinion on media then Jesus Christ. And for the other complaint, again, what he said was wrong that’s the point. And he doesn’t even know at that point that his memory has been wiped if I’m correct, so of course he just assumes that robots can’t lie.
4- holy shit I wanna kill myself reading this post. That was the point of his character. He didn’t wanna be just another mindless robot that obeyed commends like in in past. They obviously hired him cause they assumed judging from his past he was good at taking orders.
Pluto has some flaws (minor imo, however I still consider it a masterpiece up there with his other works), but some of your complaints are just so stupid. Pay less attention to this kinda stuff when consuming media and more to the theme and purpose of particular lines of diaoliuge and scenes. Godamn 💀
1- that’s the point. Robots, or atom in this case, don’t believe, that they themselves, can appreciate things like humans do, such as nature. But atom is WRONG. That’s the point of the entire episode 1.
2- is just a stupid ass complaint that you’d see on cinema sins and if u actually let stuff like that influence your opinion on media then Jesus Christ. And for the other complaint, again, what he said was wrong that’s the point. And he doesn’t even know at that point that his memory has been wiped if I’m correct, so of course he just assumes that robots can’t lie.
4- holy shit I wanna kill myself reading this post. That was the point of his character. He didn’t wanna be just another mindless robot that obeyed commends like in in past. They obviously hired him cause they assumed judging from his past he was good at taking orders.
Pluto has some flaws (minor imo, however I still consider it a masterpiece up there with his other works), but some of your complaints are just so stupid. Pay less attention to this kinda stuff when consuming media and more to the theme and purpose of particular lines of diaoliuge and scenes. Godamn 💀
24846 said: 1- that’s the point. Robots, or atom in this case, don’t believe, that they themselves, can appreciate things like humans do, such as nature. But atom is WRONG. That’s the point of the entire episode 1. Well, that is exactly my point. By being wrong, Atom (who were told many times before this point that he is a genius AI) is not as smart as we were told. 24846 said: what he said was wrong that’s the point. And he doesn’t even know at that point that his memory has been wiped if I’m correct, so of course he just assumes that robots can’t lie. Check the timeline of events, he already knew by episode 5 and Abullah meeting was in episode 6. In episode 6 Gesich acknowledges being a killer and proceeds to smoke a cigar, or he would if this series were more Noir. 24846 said: He didn’t wanna be just another mindless robot that obeyed commends like in in past. They obviously hired him cause they assumed judging from his past he was good at taking orders. I get your point, but lets take the Socratic route and ask another "what if" to reach higher understanding. Let's say the agency through he was employed didn't run much of background check beyond "taking orders", but his body isn't also adequate to carry the job; the old man sure has money (from what the series itself clearly suggest) and would contact a very prestigious agency of butlers. Whats next? he purchases a smart toaster, but the toaster might want to have the freedom to be a freezer instead. -------------- Sorry if I'm digging to deep, I know some scenes make more sense if you isolate them from the "how do we got here?" question. Of course ep1 arc was about freedom and appreciation of art by AI and the real bond robots and humans can make, of course the criminal scene analysis was a showcase of Atom reasoning capabilities and that "Robots don't lie" was to highlight the fact than Abullah unconsciously flinched when he lied and Gesich sensor cached a glimpse of it. |
| 35 years old ossan who still watches anime |
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