Awful pacing

no explosions and boom boom equals bad pacing for some people.
this isn't a shonen.

I like how there is a dichotomy between LN readers and anime only viewers. Anime viewers say that pacing was slow while ln readers like me say the pacing was fast lol because if you'd read the ln, you'd realise that a lot of stuff was left out, despite the seemingly slow pacing.
Also if you're willing to continue, I'm not sure how to convince you but it's going to be a constant peak from the next cour onwards, so just stick around, it's worth it.

Only episode with awful pacing is Episode 2, which is also IMO the worst episode of the entire series. The rest of the episodes are great.

@Evvixent I think the main problem is that a lot of the character introductions felt incredibly hollow. A lot of characters, like Zanoba, we already knew, other characters like the beast girls felt like standard templates, even the fellow isekai character, while the most important and best introduction, felt kind of hollow compared to the importance she should've had.

@Evvixent I think the main problem is that a lot of the character introductions felt incredibly hollow. A lot of characters, like Zanoba, we already knew, other characters like the beast girls felt like standard templates, even the fellow isekai character, while the most important and best introduction, felt kind of hollow compared to the importance she should've had.

yeah, the pacing is actually pretty good for what it is. they had to shove a bunch of characters and character development in these 12 episodes. if anything, it's rushed. you said it could be put in 3 episodes. That's just not true. At least it's not possible without completely butchering the story. people seem to forget season 1 part 1 was about paced the same. with introduction to the characters and world building. It will definitely pick up around episode 6 of part 2. if you didn't like part 1, you'll probably hate the about 6 episodes of slice of life cute marriage stuff that's about to happen.

bruh... ok, let's just forget about the power struggle of Ariel's Kingdom and the power struggle on Millis. let's forget about the demon king and Rudy apparently having as much mana as a God. let's forget about some of the beast folk stuff we learned or the character development between all of the side characters.

we learned about where Sylphy has been and what she's going through.

we learn about the power struggle of the kingdom and some of its inner workings

we learn about counter arrow and stepped ladder, along with the characters that make up them

we spend time with Rudy's abandonment issues due to Eris.

we learn a bit more about the school.

we are introduced to what are essentially the princesses of the beastfolk

we meet up with Cliff and hear more about the power struggle in the church.

We have character development from lise

we meet Silent and learn more about the teleport disaster

we meet a demon king and learn Rudy has the mana capacity of a god

we are introduced to Julie and learn more about Zanoba's ambitions.

we learn more about where Rudy's mom is.

and we get the set up for Rudy's first marriage.

yup, nothing happened besides what you said.

@Puppytay That is exactly the problem:
We learned about Sylphy and what she went through during ep 0 (which isn't even part of the season) and even if you count it towards the season the information was kind of limited. The same goes for the power struggle and the princess, which essentially boiled down to 'yeah, there are multiple people aiming for the throne' (duh) and this information also got revealed during episode 0.

Counter Arrow and Stepped Ladder were so shallow that there isn't even much to remember about them. They were just standard adventurer groups, one bigger and more ambitious and one smaller and more family like. Absolutely nothing interesting about them.
They were basically just a vehicle to show Rudy being depressed, finding out about his ED, which made him more depressed in the mantle of some standard adventure stuff, and in the end to send him off to magic school.
The whole school bid is just a comfortable setting to introducing one character after the other, who we either already knew, are incredibly shallow (or at least appear that way because we don't get any deeper information about them) or are a fellow isekai person (already wrote about the problems there).

All the big 'reveals' you talk about are small snippets (like all the people we meet that have some connection to the Greyrat family) or obvious stuff (like finding out that there is a power struggle for the throne in a monarchy, who would have thought).

I don't know the source material, but do you really think people are that stupid that 'Rudy has a lot of mana' is a big reveal for viewers?

@zwolf12 as someone who's read ahead, it's so funny seeing someone call these "small snippets" when 90% of the details he said are really important for future arcs lol(Also the dichotomy of anime only's saying this is too slow placed while LN readers saying this was too fast paced)

@rolopolo78 Just because it is a small snippet doesn't mean it is unimportant, but to fill an episode you have to give the viewer more than a small snippet (or just more snippets).
Some people suggested it is not the pacing but the direction, which could be the case, because you either have to do more stuff in the time you have, or you condense the few things you have down into a smaller time package.

bruh... ok, let's just forget about the power struggle of Ariel's Kingdom and the power struggle on Millis. let's forget about the demon king and Rudy apparently having as much mana as a God. let's forget about some of the beast folk stuff we learned or the character development between all of the side characters.

we learned about where Sylphy has been and what she's going through.

we learn about the power struggle of the kingdom and some of its inner workings

we learn about counter arrow and stepped ladder, along with the characters that make up them

we spend time with Rudy's abandonment issues due to Eris.

we learn a bit more about the school.

we are introduced to what are essentially the princesses of the beastfolk

we meet up with Cliff and hear more about the power struggle in the church.

We have character development from lise

we meet Silent and learn more about the teleport disaster

we meet a demon king and learn Rudy has the mana capacity of a god

we are introduced to Julie and learn more about Zanoba's ambitions.

we learn more about where Rudy's mom is.

and we get the set up for Rudy's first marriage.

yup, nothing happened besides what you said.

@Puppytay

80% of that stuff was already known from season 1 and Episode 0, what are you talking about?

The power struggle was already mentioned when Rudy met Eris.
Dunno if they'll do something later but Counter Arrow and Stepped Ladder were useless for the overall arc story.
What did we learn about the school? Just a couple of rich kids doing shenaningans not relevant to the story.
I don't care about any beastfolk princesses if all they are going to do with them is strap them to a chair until they wet themselves, what development did they have?
Again, we knew about Cliff already and his history, this season he didn't do squat except getting into a relationship.
Rudy having the mana capacity of a god was already mentioned by Orsted in season 1.
Again, Julie was presented but didn't do squat afterwards.
Zenith's location was already discovered in season 1.

The major point of this season was curing Rudeus ED and the slog of Sylphie wanting to tell him who she was for 7 chapters. Taking that into consideration, just add the bad production quality and the result is a bad season. A deserved 4/10.

Half of these points you've completely made up like Zenith's location being known and Rudy knowing about his mana capacity, the other half you just completely ignored context and abridged into footnotes.

And fyi you can summarize any show into a couple of sentences, your not clever for attempting and failing to do so. That attention span of yours must be deadly to conflate the 3 actual episodes about curing Rudeus' ED and Sylphie wanting to get with Rudy, into the whole 13. Even funnier is your insinuation that Rudeus building relations with the beastfolk princesses, Cliff (because he's never actual met him. dont know why you think Cliff meeting Eris is the same as him becoming friends with Rudeus), Princess Ariel (Rudeus absolutely does not know about the Asura Kingdom politics till this season), and fucking marrying Sylphie has nothing to do with the story or plot. You'd have to be completely oblivious to what kind of story you've been watching up to this point to make such assumptions.

@Evvixent I think the main problem is that a lot of the character introductions felt incredibly hollow. A lot of characters, like Zanoba, we already knew, other characters like the beast girls felt like standard templates, even the fellow isekai character, while the most important and best introduction, felt kind of hollow compared to the importance she should've had.

@med_512 Oh for sure, that is why my favorite isekai is Ascendance of a Bookworm I really need that fast boom boom....

@Puppytay
Are you really comparing the ammount of stuff we learned about the world in S1 Part 1 with this cour?
The only thing we learned about the world of MT this season was that Nanahoshi being transported triggered the whole mana mess, nothing else.

@Puppytay That is exactly the problem:
We learned about Sylphy and what she went through during ep 0 (which isn't even part of the season) and even if you count it towards the season the information was kind of limited. The same goes for the power struggle and the princess, which essentially boiled down to 'yeah, there are multiple people aiming for the throne' (duh) and this information also got revealed during episode 0.

Counter Arrow and Stepped Ladder were so shallow that there isn't even much to remember about them. They were just standard adventurer groups, one bigger and more ambitious and one smaller and more family like. Absolutely nothing interesting about them.
They were basically just a vehicle to show Rudy being depressed, finding out about his ED, which made him more depressed in the mantle of some standard adventure stuff, and in the end to send him off to magic school.
The whole school bid is just a comfortable setting to introducing one character after the other, who we either already knew, are incredibly shallow (or at least appear that way because we don't get any deeper information about them) or are a fellow isekai person (already wrote about the problems there).

All the big 'reveals' you talk about are small snippets (like all the people we meet that have some connection to the Greyrat family) or obvious stuff (like finding out that there is a power struggle for the throne in a monarchy, who would have thought).

I don't know the source material, but do you really think people are that stupid that 'Rudy has a lot of mana' is a big reveal for viewers?

The only person you can blame is the author. For an anime, it's very accurate to the light novels.

@Puppytay

80% of that stuff was already known from season 1 and Episode 0, what are you talking about?

The power struggle was already mentioned when Rudy met Eris.
Dunno if they'll do something later but Counter Arrow and Stepped Ladder were useless for the overall arc story.
What did we learn about the school? Just a couple of rich kids doing shenaningans not relevant to the story.
I don't care about any beastfolk princesses if all they are going to do with them is strap them to a chair until they wet themselves, what development did they have?
Again, we knew about Cliff already and his history, this season he didn't do squat except getting into a relationship.
Rudy having the mana capacity of a god was already mentioned by Orsted in season 1.
Again, Julie was presented but didn't do squat afterwards.
Zenith's location was already discovered in season 1.

The major point of this season was curing Rudeus ED and the slog of Sylphie wanting to tell him who she was for 7 chapters. Taking that into consideration, just add the bad production quality and the result is a bad season. A deserved 4/10.

@Perrito i think you Just doesnt like mushoku,Go watch something of your taste or whatever because everytime someone presents a information that contradicts your previous affirmations about the quality you move the bar that It isnt enough or It is not good.

@luksthefool
I'll watch whatever I want and rate it accordingly.
You said Pursena and Linia were important for this arc. Care to tell me why? What did they do since they were introduced that helped the plot move forwards in this season?
Also you are saying that I don't like MT when my last post clearly stated that season 1 was good. Talk about goldfish.
You are replying to a bunch of posts saying that people don't know stuff while also failing to provide any info to enlighten anyone.
Keep crying, dude, this cour was garbage compared to the previous season and it's shortcomings were explained in this and many other threads about the show, while nobody defending the show is actually explaining why they think it was good, only responding reactively to people that think (and explain) it wasn't.

one of Rudeus' plan to find Zenith was to spread his name through his achievements. After taming Linea and Pursena, they gave the responsibility of their mating bout to Rudeus since he was their "Boss". A lot of beastfolks gathered to fight Rudeus and coincidentally a full fledged Demon lord also came for the same reason (although his end goal was different). During these commotions, the demon lord defeated all the gathered beastfolks without any problem and challenged Rudeus. And their conversations, made the demon lord more curious about him, who in turn suggested Rudeus to hit him with his best shot. Now this shot obliterated the upper half of this Demon Lord and there were a lot of spectators during that incident. This means that the people gathered there will spread the word, how Rudeus one shot a mighty demon lord into pieces. Putting more progress in this goal. The princess using Rudeus' name for her political gain is a huge favor for Rudeus himself since he can now get better and more reliable information regarding his parents through her connections.

Well, this might not necessarily mean something very important to many, but Badigadi is one of the most important character in this series, more than Linia and Pursena in my opinion. They both might not have had much screentime in this season, but they'll be very importsnt characters in this series especially once they start adapting stuff after volume 13.

Like I said in my earlier post in this discussion topic, the devil is in the detail, but it is hard to miss them due to some bad directorial decisions in this part, which I hope gets changed or improved in the next part.

@Perrito So first watch it before talking off the top of your head without paying attention to the story.
They serve to prove that even being close to attractive girls Rudy is not able to cure his ED as it is not caused by a lack of attraction but by a lack of affection.
You dont like MT,you can say you like something so you can look look you have the right to criticize something present in the story without looking like a hater.
I don't have to describe paragraphs present in the LN or dialogues from the anime, because I know they are present there.
Who is crying and you for having your lack of analysis and narrative understanding exposed, anyone can lie about what the motivation for the criticism is in order to be validated, which is your case,Go watch slime or re:zero and I'm sure you won't encounter these problems that seem like a nail in your flesh to you