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Sep 14, 2023 8:18 AM
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Maybe we´ll finally learn that last episode of this season, but what is your personal guess?
I was definitely believing him when he was acting all crazy and thought that it could be possible his own ability overtaken his body, but we know that is not true.
We also know that his ability is "crime and punishment" but what is it based on? How does it work exactly?
I think there were also indications that he can manipulate other people but how? Via touch? via a book?

I must admit, he is such an interesting character, I really wanna know his backstory. I hope they won´t spend a whole episode on it, but I also want to learn as much as possible because this season, I am definitely invested in getting to know other characters better.

Please, share your opinions!
Sep 14, 2023 10:01 AM
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it has to be something complex right?
it can't be anything as simple as getting information on touch or being able to manipulate

I'm thinking something along the lines of what fukuzawa has but a little gorey. i think once he gets another individual to do something for him/on his instructions as simple as 'can you pass me the salt' he gets to see into this individuals past.

this means that fyodor can easily manipulate people just based on their past as even dazai can do it without any such ability.

also explains why sigma sees a huge source of light as he tries to read fyodor's memories. he says that the light is a huge amount of information that knocks sigma out
Sep 14, 2023 10:04 AM
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SATAN19 said:
it has to be something complex right?
it can't be anything as simple as getting information on touch or being able to manipulate

I'm thinking something along the lines of what fukuzawa has but a little gorey. i think once he gets another individual to do something for him/on his instructions as simple as 'can you pass me the salt' he gets to see into this individuals past.

this means that fyodor can easily manipulate people just based on their past as even dazai can do it without any such ability.

also explains why sigma sees a huge source of light as he tries to read fyodor's memories. he says that the light is a huge amount of information that knocks sigma out

how did he make the kid and guard explode by touching them if it has to do with reading their past though?
Sep 14, 2023 10:08 AM
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SoulessAnime said:
SATAN19 said:
it has to be something complex right?
it can't be anything as simple as getting information on touch or being able to manipulate

I'm thinking something along the lines of what fukuzawa has but a little gorey. i think once he gets another individual to do something for him/on his instructions as simple as 'can you pass me the salt' he gets to see into this individuals past.

this means that fyodor can easily manipulate people just based on their past as even dazai can do it without any such ability.

also explains why sigma sees a huge source of light as he tries to read fyodor's memories. he says that the light is a huge amount of information that knocks sigma out

how did he make the kid and guard explode by touching them if it has to do with reading their past though?

idk bro I'm just pitballing on what i remember which is not much from what i can tell you 😂
Sep 14, 2023 10:57 AM
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SATAN19 said:
also explains why sigma sees a huge source of light as he tries to read fyodor's memories. he says that the light is a huge amount of information that knocks sigma out


Maybe he shows people their darkest sins? And maybe he is some sort of a God who can punish people for their sins? I am just thinking if his ability is based on the book (author) itself, wasn´t Raskolnikov (the hero of the book) later driven to craziness by his own guilt?

I wonder whether he is more powerful than Fukuchi? Is Fukuchi really the boss or does he only think he is? :D
Sep 14, 2023 11:08 AM
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i just kinda assumed it was like gojo 's infinite void ....but ur explanation of showing sins makes alot more sense.... anyways...gonna read fyodor dostoevsky's crime and punishment in December anyways (been in my tbr forever)...so maybe that will give a hint or two....🤷🤷
Sep 14, 2023 11:10 AM
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i just kinda assumed it was like gojo 's infinite void ....but ur explanation of showing sins makes alot more sense.... anyways...gonna read fyodor dostoevsky's crime and punishment in December anyways (been in my tbr forever)...so maybe that will give a hint or two....🤷🤷
@Kvothe_1 it is really long and dark. enjoy! I have read bits and pieces of it some yeas back.
Sep 14, 2023 1:22 PM
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pretty sure it's a one touch one kill ability
Sep 14, 2023 2:01 PM
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To me, it was always the ability to manipulate blood (physically and to control others/driving them insane). We never saw any special wounds or anything at the victims (just the blood) and in one episode, he let a drop of blood drip into a chalice/goblet.
But since he needed the bandage for his hands in the last chapters/episodes i am not so sure about that anymore. In the manga those bandages didn't exist. Maybe Bones did that by mistake since they changed that and didn't know it would be important for the future.

My prediction: he could even be the person who killed Kyoka's parents with that ability. We never knew who that was.

(and my predictions always come true)
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Sep 14, 2023 9:04 PM

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in my perspective, it could be more like Mori ability where he can have Elinase (mori daughter lol) as his partner along side battle. But for Fyodor ability I'm guessing it's actually the "sec" of him in a form of ability like Elinase, but the different is Fyodor can't design the character like Mori (ofc he a Lolicon) and not visible to naked eyes. it's like Fyodor and his ability can share each other power (touch of death) and his ability can travel whenever he wants far from the original body. This theory come to my mind since we have scene with Order of the Clock agent transport the One Order and get killed suddenly by blood get out from every hole of it's body (like what happened in season 3) and have a glimpse of Fyodor shadow before he get killed. i know a lot of you think that maybe it's bcz some one poison the drink or whatever, but in the manga they don't draw it like a shadow like in anime does. And another thing that support my Theory is. how Fyodor all this time in the underground jail inside ball room can be able to transfer all the information about the strategy to Fukuchi all this time when we all know he the only master mind that the one who responsible for all of this. We all know that Dazai used the time stop girl to send the information with Ango. But how about Fyodor? i know they must be placed some vampire in jail, and if so how he can give order to vampire? I know this will be super OP if it does like this and this just my Theory about it, bcz the one scene from the airplane and what he said in dead apple dragging me to thinking like this.
Sep 14, 2023 11:01 PM
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effy_ said:
Maybe we´ll finally learn that last episode of this season, but what is your personal guess?
I was definitely believing him when he was acting all crazy and thought that it could be possible his own ability overtaken his body, but we know that is not true.
We also know that his ability is "crime and punishment" but what is it based on? How does it work exactly?
I think there were also indications that he can manipulate other people but how? Via touch? via a book?

I must admit, he is such an interesting character, I really wanna know his backstory. I hope they won´t spend a whole episode on it, but I also want to learn as much as possible because this season, I am definitely invested in getting to know other characters better.

Please, share your opinions!

The novel Crime and Punishment is about a character who attempts to become a super human (essentially a being who can essentially break laws but bring humanity as a whole to a better way of living), but fails.
So honestly the bipolar personality might not be that off.

How ironic would it be if Fyodor had that issue when he was one of the only ones in Dead Apple not seeming to be having an issue (phrasing it vaguely so no spoilers)

but honestly I'm expecting quite the counter to what happened. No way did Fukuchi get what he wanted and Dazai died. Idk if its just the agency is going to get the paper and reverse everything or what. I'm almost tempted to believe what we saw was just Sigma seeing a possibility in the future (in which maybe Fyodor has a future sight ability?)

The maker of Bungo Stray Dogs is pretty great with these abilities and mysteries so I'd rather just wait and be surprised than try to figure it out. Heck, for all we know Fyodor has something similar to a reality marble (Fate reference) ability and this is all a scenario in his head to figure out Dazai's ability to exchange information with the outside. Which isnt likely imo but we shall see
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Sep 15, 2023 5:44 AM
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effy_ said:
Maybe we´ll finally learn that last episode of this season, but what is your personal guess?
I was definitely believing him when he was acting all crazy and thought that it could be possible his own ability overtaken his body, but we know that is not true.
We also know that his ability is "crime and punishment" but what is it based on? How does it work exactly?
I think there were also indications that he can manipulate other people but how? Via touch? via a book?

I must admit, he is such an interesting character, I really wanna know his backstory. I hope they won´t spend a whole episode on it, but I also want to learn as much as possible because this season, I am definitely invested in getting to know other characters better.

Please, share your opinions!

there's only one episode left right? i think that episode might be dedicated to soukoku and dazai's death
not sure if we'll see fyodor's past or anything
but i mean
sigma did use his power on him in the end of the episode so maybe we will
Sep 15, 2023 8:10 AM
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chuuyalvrr said:
there's only one episode left right? i think that episode might be dedicated to soukoku and dazai's death
not sure if we'll see fyodor's past or anything
but i mean
sigma did use his power on him in the end of the episode so maybe we will


yes, I also don´t expect the story to progress much. I think they will most likely concentrating on showing some flashbacks and creating the atmosphere. maybe dedicate a couple of minutes to Aya and Bram, but apart from that who knows. I am pretty sure Dazai didn´t take as that would make no sense for the story, but we could be left believing that.
Sep 15, 2023 2:29 PM

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It seems pretty clear that at least part of Fyodor's ability is that he kills non-ability users with touch. In order to kill ability users, he has to use some other means, like when he shot that time freezing ability user in the prison. Beyond that, we haven't had many clues about what his ability actually does or if there is more to it. I think that's a neat contrast to Dazai's ability of affecting ability users exclusively as the two have some sort of connection beyond what we've been shown.

I think it's entirely possible that he wasn't completely acting when he said his ability took control of him. In Dead Apple, his ability was completely different from everyone else's in that he didn't fight it so something like this had been predicted for a while in some circles of the fandom. Maybe in the near future, the story will go more into how abilities even come into existence. Only a few characters have explanations for how they got their abilities, like Kyouka receiving hers from her mother and Chuya's being caused by Arahabaki. Maybe there are other triggers that create abilities and Fyodor's backstory will explain it some more. He seems to really want to wipe the world of ability users so it'd be an important plot point to eventually cover why they exist in the first place.

The light Sigma saw when touching Fyodor was interesting as it seemed as if Sigma was a little confused by what was happening, as if receiving information doesn't usually appear to him like that.

I look forward to an explanation though I doubt the next episode will have enough time to explain this and wrap up everything else cleanly.

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All this time, I thought his ability was to kill by touch.
Sep 16, 2023 12:13 AM
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Meruseitai said:
It seems pretty clear that at least part of Fyodor's ability is that he kills non-ability users with touch. In order to kill ability users, he has to use some other means, like when he shot that time freezing ability user in the prison. Beyond that, we haven't had many clues about what his ability actually does or if there is more to it. I think that's a neat contrast to Dazai's ability of affecting ability users exclusively as the two have some sort of connection beyond what we've been shown.


ina6_- said:
All this time, I thought his ability was to kill by touch.


thank you for pointing that out. I was never really sure whether he had to directly touch someone to kill them though. I think there were more deaths caused by him without any of that, but I am the first to admit I might have not been paying attention as much as I should.
my early guesses were among "manipulation" and perhaps reading people´s sins, maybe in a way what Sigma does.

Meruseitai said:
I think it's entirely possible that he wasn't completely acting when he said his ability took control of him. In Dead Apple, his ability was completely different from everyone else's in that he didn't fight it so something like this had been predicted for a while in some circles of the fandom. Maybe in the near future, the story will go more into how abilities even come into existence. Only a few characters have explanations for how they got their abilities, like Kyouka receiving hers from her mother and Chuya's being caused by Arahabaki. Maybe there are other triggers that create abilities and Fyodor's backstory will explain it some more. He seems to really want to wipe the world of ability users so it'd be an important plot point to eventually cover why they exist in the first place.


Why have I thought that Arahabaki was just an addition to Chuuya´s original ability? Is it perhaps better explained in the LNs? I am really hoping they will explain Fyodor´s ability properly, same with his backstory. He mentioned being very sickly in his younger years so I wonder how his ability powered alter-ego could use that for their benefit. am I just running too wild with theories? :D

Meruseitai said:
The light Sigma saw when touching Fyodor was interesting as it seemed as if Sigma was a little confused by what was happening, as if receiving information doesn't usually appear to him like that.


That scene was just UGH, frustrating in a way because we were explained nothing. Just left with the same void that knocked Sigma out. What? Why? This fact will probably make my lazy ass pick up manga because I can´t live without knowing. Good marketing here!
Sep 16, 2023 12:19 AM
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I don't really remember. But in s3 dazai once said something like "don't touch him" but the guy touch fyodor and died. Probably an ability to instant kill when someone touch him
Sep 16, 2023 12:21 AM
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I don't really remember. But in s3 dazai once said something like "don't touch him" but the guy touch fyodor and died. Probably an ability to instant kill when someone touch him
@lilyxxwise
Fyodor's Crime and Punishment allows him to kill somebody with a single touch. The name "Crime and Punishment" also implies that everything Fyodor does is a crime, so the ability is an eternal punishment in and of itself. Fyodor describes abilities as "sins" and users as "sinners."


I guess so! but can he kill everyone or is it just for the ability users?

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