'Grendizer U' TV Anime Announced for 2024

TheMechaManiac said:
Fukuda as director AND Okouchi as head writer?
Double trainwreck, calling it now.

Fortress_Maximus said:
Fukuda, Sadamoto and Tanaka sound like a solid team. The writer and studio are given me doubts.

Except for Code Geass, Okouchi's original works don't hold a candle to his adaptations.
Then there's Gaina, a shell of what Gainax once was, with sequels to Royal Space Force and Gunbuster stuck in development hell, and only three anime scoring higher than a 7.

RobertBobert said:
I think it all depends on the intentions of the writers and how the original show is conducive to its favorite clichés like homoerotic friendships, toxic fathers and edgy Mary Sue characters. For example, he can make both cucold MC and alpha MC with cheese harem depending on the need.

icefirestone23 said:
inb4 more out of place yuri that gets the mecha fandom brigaded again by /u/.

Ionliosite2 said:
One of the committee producers in this series is Manga Productions, an Arab company, so considering we have high ranking Middle Eastern funding the show, don't expect LGBT themes to be prevalent.

icefirestone23 said:
I feel more and more writers and now making their works for female demographics which are alienating their core audiences. Look at Kentaro Yabuki who was the ecchi god and made the most erotic, guaranteed to turn you on manga of all time, into a show where a guy turns into a girl and they develop feelings for another. And they put all the fanservice on Matsuri which grosses the male audiences out because we all know she is a guy.
Koshi Tachibana who made DAL, one of the most popular and beloved LN series of all time, and he is kind of copying Kentaro yabuki. Once again guy turns into a girl, and fanservice around it. Not finished reading the 2nd volume.

icefirestone23 said:
hope you are right. I thought they are just producing it, but not distributing it in the middle east

icefirestone23 said:
I feel more and more writers and now making their works for female demographics which are alienating their core audiences. Look at Kentaro Yabuki who was the ecchi god and made the most erotic, guaranteed to turn you on manga of all time, into a show where a guy turns into a girl and they develop feelings for another. And they put all the fanservice on Matsuri which grosses the male audiences out because we all know she is a guy.
Koshi Tachibana who made DAL, one of the most popular and beloved LN series of all time, and he is kind of copying Kentaro yabuki. Once again guy turns into a girl, and fanservice around it. Not finished reading the 2nd volume.

RobertBobert said:
Lol, even if it's completely platonic, etc, there will still be people who will say that this is obviously gay. Look, above you can find a great example where a person passes off a shiping as "an obvious canon", reinforcing this with a metaphorical dialogue. They will still find a way to interpret it. I have also seen people claim that UC Gundam has always been gay because of Amuro x Char.

RobertBobert said:
Well, the gender bender subplot was still in the original DAL. But in this case, I think it's a typical lazy content or style update by replacing the typical protagonist's gender. In Yabuka's case, it's also banal fanservice for the sake of fanservice, since as far as I remember, the manga we're talking about is just stuck in limbo for the sake of milking it.

Kumiveneella said:
But Robert, it's not even the fans, it's a view supported by the director as well (Char's Counter Attack Fan Club Book). 

Have you seen any of the promo art for CCA, some of it is literally just Char and Amuro standing naked next to each other with longing gazes. Nothing homoerotic about that. And in the novels Amuro describes Char's way of walking as "sexy", but that must've been a metaphor, for something else. It's just a bit ridiculous to say that it isn't at the very least intentionally homoerotic. All of this must've been a case  much like that of the illusive "Russian taunt".

Also maybe you should also watch the show before you talk. 

icefirestone23 said:
Yabuki's was always known to be kind of a terrible writer, and the ending of to Love Ru was so half assed. But the guy is like the god of ecchi. For Tachibana, he is actually a legitimately amazing writer which is why there was so much discussion on DAL for Season 4 and will be talk of the town for season 5 onwards. Since it all goes back to season 1. I have only read the first volume of king's proposal where protag basically has the rito/riko, they introduced the garden of knights, lots of isekai shenanigans. Lots of fan service type of stuff and creative shenanigans Tachibana is writing at half the pace vs when he wrote DAL. I will hopefully catch up on the other 2 volumes later.
As for WfM, now a lot of the gunplas are just going to p-bandai. https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunpla/comments/15jdvcf/pbandai_hg_wfm_1144_demi_garrison_2200_yen/.
There is a huge disrepancy between how the gundams like calibarns, aerials sold and everything else. Like even Guel's suits who had multiple fights notably the (darilblade vs michaelis )are kind of sitting on shelves.

RobertBobert said:


You're implying now that Bandai decided to stop this because they noticed that the shipper orientation simply doesn't sell kits outside of female characters, and they can't leave out male characters because will it scare away the old audience completely?

icefirestone23 said:


The biggest money on anime is made on toys. The lack of sales outside main suits can include declining viewership ir people skipping to the end.

They put so much emphasis on guel having the big fight with shaddiq. Yet the guys aren't buying his suits. Not to mention  his former fiancee and love interest are supposedly together. Basically mako, korra, asami triangle all over again. Guel is basically just mako.

Only explanation is the shippers drove the guys off. They probably had enough of them bashing animes they deem misogynistic despite not watching them, and boycotted the whole line as a protest.

RobertBobert said:
The author decided to add homoerotic tension as a tribute to the fujoshi part of the fandom or emphasize the emotional tension of their confrontation...they were gay and the show has always been gay since that time - a classic. And of course, everyone who disagrees with your assessment of the show simply did not watch it, because your assessments are obvious and indisputable. You don't have to continue. You're trying to sound like a reasonable conversationalist who argues rationally, but the more I know you, the more you sound like a fanatic slash shipper who treats everything as "they're gay" and is willing to take things out of context for the sake of it (not even understanding how homoerotic subtext work or not paying attention that in the first part of the comment I spoke about Lupin at all). And do not even try to turn it into an endless flood for the sake of flooding again, you have long been on my ignore list after past attempts.
You're implying now that Bandai decided to stop this because they noticed that the shipper orientation simply doesn't sell kits outside of female characters, and they can't leave out male characters because will it scare away the old audience completely?

Swagernator said:

Oh, they learned their lesson this time, lol.

Those plastic gundam toys need to be sold. And that's all that matters.

icefirestone23 said:
And they put all the fanservice on Matsuri which grosses the male audiences out because we all know she is a guy.

icefirestone23 said:

You should see the stacks of dilenzas , demi trainers, heindree, zoworts that are already on sale. Real hard to sell them now with the universe effectively finished.

RobertBobert said:
In this case, it turns out that Bandai with this show deceived themselves, because in the end they managed to somehow disappoint and scare away two opposing audiences and never created a strong fan base for at least G-Witch itself, not to mention a new audience for franchises in general. Even the western media turned their backs on them after they did a clumsy retcon in an attempt... but what were they really hoping for with this?

icefirestone23 said:
Expect to see fewer G-Witch restocks now outside aerials, calibarns, lfriths. It is going to be a hard sell compared to the Universal Century stuff. especially since bandai basically declared WfM finished

RobertBobert said:
Well, I always watch new merch streams and I noticed that they had no problem promoting the most minor content from UC, while G-Witch merch almost always focused on either Suletta x Miorine or Super Sentai goods like "pick your favorite character" if you know what I mean. I also feel like this show was so non-Gundam that people just weren't interested in any kits outside of the central characters' robots. Or are you saying that the audience of the show wasn't even interested in gundam gunpla if it wasn't piloted by the main characters?

icefirestone23 said:
It shows the poor time management of WfM. They put a lot of suits, but many didn't have enough screentime. You have to pause to figure which ones were there. You never had this problem for the original series, zeta/zz, Seed/destiny, wing. It is ironic how the shippers paid little attention to the suits.

RobertBobert said:
There's a difference between an ordinary discussion and an autistic argument for the sake of an argument, where you just can't stop looking endlessly for loopholes to continue the argument because it's too personal for you. Hell, you literally even started researching my anime list to use this as a cheap attempt to get me to make excuses.  Hell, even when it was obvious to you why I mentioned Lupin, you still pretend you didn't understand it to stretch out the opportunity to argue. Even attributing other people's words to me, since I never said that Elan was a clone of Rei, these were the words of another guy. You don't even pay attention to who and why is texting you. Especially now, when even you yourself admit that you are arguing not for the sake of finding the truth, but for the sake of playing for the public.

Oh...Homoeroticism alone doesn't make things looks gay or characters gay. Homoerotic overtones have existed for years to emphasize the power of emotional tension and confrontation or intimacy between characters. Heck, some shows have even become memes due to writers overusing homoerotic stuff for platonic stuff, which is why people found it funny. Any person who really knows about art and isn't doing shit like "they look at each other, that's so gay!" knows about it. And it's not even the Hibike situation where Yamada literally used romantic metaphors for platonic things, it's literally a subtext to highlight the tension between the confronting characters. If you literally don't realize that your attempts to be a reasonable conversationalist are meaningless and you are increasingly looking like a weirdo who sees homosexuality in any melodramatic scene or epic moment, then the conversation is really pointless. You are literally obsessed with this shit, continuing to cling to it nervously even when it makes sense in the context and you don't need to be super-intelligent to understand why Tomino did it. 

So stop this shitty bait arguing for the sake of arguing, the only one here who wants to "win the argument" is you. This was my last reply to you here.

RobertBobert said:
In this case, we are back to the fact that the show had huge time problems. In theory, I can understand why they wanted to make a show that is 2 cours long, but I find it hard to believe that this writing was originally intended and that they are so strongly not taken care of wasting so many topics and subplots. Everything rather looks as if they were placed against their will in such a tight deadline.

icefirestone23 said:
WfM practically had around over 26 suits in 24 episodes. Seed and Destiny had 40 suits in 100 episodes. We are excluding backpack changes, recolours, different box arts which were common for the Cosmic era times.  This is just regular release.
https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/High_Grade_the_Witch_from_Mercury
https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/High_Grade_Gundam_SEED#SEED_Destiny_
WfM targetted the broke shippers with an insane amount of suits, hoping they will buy it all. Then favored the broke shippers over its long time customers. Looks like it backfired. WfM designs don't appeal to UC fans either. I had to pause the WfM show heavily to figure out which suit is where, something I never had to do with the previous series.

Even IBO didn't vomit as many suits as WfM did with only 36 suits in 50 episodes, many of which are barbatos variants

Lycoris Recoil figures are going to bin like crazy in 2024 since they vomitted so many Chisato and Takina variants, on a show that probably hasno real direct sequel to hype it up. Once again, target broke shippers who managed to inflate LycoReco blu ray discs cuz there was a lack of merch out when it aired.

RobertBobert said:
I just can't understand why a brand with such a huge history and ability to make money made so many of the most simple and naive mistakes out of the blue. For example, create a lot of monotonous mecha, even inviting different designers from different shows. And do I understand you correctly, G-Witch, being a complete yuri, completely lost to Licorice on all fronts, which, if desired, could even not even be considered as yuri bait? Or are you implying that they just picked a bad timing and targeted an audience that already spent too much money last season?

icefirestone23 said:
tbh, Licorice kind of got popular for the wrong reasons. 90%+ of the talk was on the yuri. Just think how barbie became a billion dollar movie. Hide what it is so it doesn't get blased in the marketing. Then have people rally up behind it. Lycorice had abnromally high disc sales with viewership not equivalent to the shonens. There was a lack of merch when it came out, so the shippers inflated the blu ray sales. They likely got broke after that and couldn't keep up with all the model kits. But neither girls topped best girl of the year.

All the Licorice merch is coming way too later now, and the pre-orders are already heavily slowing down. Over a year is too late to keep interest for an anime.The preorders have a high chance of  cancellation since you don't know if it has a direct sequel, and when that will be.

Regardless, neither of which are gundam seed levels of cult and success.