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Mar 10, 2008 8:00 AM

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I usually avoid the previews because a lot of times they are either evil tricks or spoilers. The clannad previews are full of gold though :D
Mar 11, 2008 10:58 AM
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Westlo said:
*reads through Suki episode 9 thread*

Seriosuly the fanbase for shows like this are pretty much retarded, you have Hiromi fans who were saying this show was crap last episode now all happy and Noe fans who just gave it straight tens for the alst few weeks now saying it's shit. It's like the quality of the actual show means nothing as long as the girl they like wins. Don't get me wrong I like "cheering" for one girl and I'm obviously in Hiromi's corner but if Noe wins I'm not going to throw a hissy fit and knock it down from a 9 to a 6.

*puts hand on forehead and sighs*

sorry, I am a Noe fanboy. I disliked Hiromi from the start, and will be very disapointed in this show if it doesn't have a Noe ending. :P
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zeroryoko1974 said:
Westlo said:
*reads through Suki episode 9 thread*

Seriosuly the fanbase for shows like this are pretty much retarded, you have Hiromi fans who were saying this show was crap last episode now all happy and Noe fans who just gave it straight tens for the alst few weeks now saying it's shit. It's like the quality of the actual show means nothing as long as the girl they like wins. Don't get me wrong I like "cheering" for one girl and I'm obviously in Hiromi's corner but if Noe wins I'm not going to throw a hissy fit and knock it down from a 9 to a 6.

*puts hand on forehead and sighs*

sorry, I am a Noe fanboy. I disliked Hiromi from the start, and will be very disapointed in this show if it doesn't have a Noe ending. :P


Well prepare to get disappointed because episode 10 pretty much sealed ShinxHiromi.
Mar 12, 2008 4:03 PM

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Kudo to creator who make the preview.

Episode 10 was best episode even I seen so far. The writer better not work on her/his retarded writing on few last episodes.
Mar 16, 2008 6:56 PM

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Episode 11 was meh...
Just Shinichiro hopping between girls again.

Only highlight of the show...


****Spoiler****


Hiromi kissed Shinichiro.
Mar 17, 2008 1:40 PM

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I thought the highlight
Mar 18, 2008 12:00 AM

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My thoughts on episode 11.

I'm glad that Ai-chan and Miyo wants to start again. Way to go, Ai-chan! I was so confusing when Hiromi's foot picks her bra. I think it's funny and cute, though. Hiromi + Glasses + Popsicle = WIN. Don't forget about Hiromi kisses Shin. I am going to make avatar of her. Noe's brother won't give up on Hiromi. Poor Noe, she's lost at the moment. Shin keeps thinking about Noe. He haven't do everything properly to Noe and Hiromi. I guess that he will do everything properly to Noe first then Hiromi. Good episode so far. I saw the preview. Hiromi wears kimono = Cute.
Mar 20, 2008 7:07 AM
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I am holding out hope now for Noe to pull Shin into the ocean with her in a Murder Sucide or go nuts and we have a school days ending with Noe killing the chicken and then Shin
Mar 20, 2008 10:26 PM

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zeroryoko1974 said:
I am holding out hope now for Noe to pull Shin into the ocean with her in a Murder Sucide or go nuts and we have a school days ending with Noe killing the chicken and then Shin


So, basically you want a good show to turn into absolute shit just because the girl you like doesn't win?

When will people learn that the first/default girl almost always wins in these shows (in fact, I haven't seen one where she doesn't...). I like Noe, but she's got her siscon brother to take care of her.
Mar 21, 2008 1:05 PM
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Sushikins said:
zeroryoko1974 said:
I am holding out hope now for Noe to pull Shin into the ocean with her in a Murder Sucide or go nuts and we have a school days ending with Noe killing the chicken and then Shin


So, basically you want a good show to turn into absolute shit just because the girl you like doesn't win?

When will people learn that the first/default girl almost always wins in these shows (in fact, I haven't seen one where she doesn't...). I like Noe, but she's got her siscon brother to take care of her.

Yes, it would be epic. Noe is the best girl in the show, Hitomi needs to get hit by a bus. She is the same as that whench from Ef.
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Sushikins said:
zeroryoko1974 said:
I am holding out hope now for Noe to pull Shin into the ocean with her in a Murder Sucide or go nuts and we have a school days ending with Noe killing the chicken and then Shin


So, basically you want a good show to turn into absolute shit just because the girl you like doesn't win?

When will people learn that the first/default girl almost always wins in these shows (in fact, I haven't seen one where she doesn't...). I like Noe, but she's got her siscon brother to take care of her.


You obviously haven't watched Shuffle! then.
Mar 21, 2008 3:59 PM

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I started watching shuffle because in the suki ichigo 100% thread I was told the "Satsuki" of Shuffle won. That fan pf the girl who lost crying over the last few pages is pretty funny.
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The Tsukasa of Shuffle won, not Satsuki. It doesn't matter who "won", because the ending of Shuffle is pure shit.

Edit- Which thread on Suki are you talking about? I did a search for Shuffle and there's a ton of them that I could see that conversation taking place in.

Second Edit- ...I see what I didn't do there. Nevermind. :P
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Mar 21, 2008 5:26 PM

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BearShare said:
You obviously haven't watched Shuffle! then.

For good reason, I heard it's absolute crap.

Anyway, if True Tears had a Nice Boat/School Days ending, I'd probably drop it to a 6 or 5 and never watch it again, in all likelyhood.
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Mar 22, 2008 4:59 AM

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Speaking of Shuffle they went from like zero fan service in the first 5 episodes to a lot in 6-10. Guess that explains the way Funimation is doing the ads for it on websites.
Mar 22, 2008 11:03 AM

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Wow at the end of 12.
Mar 22, 2008 11:06 AM

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Wait 12 aired already?
Mar 22, 2008 11:07 AM

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Bout a few hours ago.
Mar 22, 2008 11:09 AM

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Ah...
*just took a look at the AS page*

More girl hopping. Goodie.
Mar 22, 2008 11:12 AM

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Looks like Noe just played the


Didn't work in KGNE, won't work here bitch.
Mar 22, 2008 11:27 AM

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Foresees a "Noe Route" OVA.
Mar 22, 2008 1:26 PM

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I'm never watching that Haruka route crap, gimme an Akane route any day over her.
Mar 22, 2008 2:01 PM

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Westlo said:
I'm never watching that Haruka route crap, gimme an Akane route any day over her.

Agreed. I still have episode 1 of the OVA backlogged somewhere on my PC. I think that's been there for 4-5 months?
Mar 22, 2008 2:55 PM

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Delete it! Anyway you remember that short nurse with fragile health from KGNE who left the hospital near the end. Her route ends with you fucking her and than she dies, hilarious.
Mar 22, 2008 3:01 PM

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Lol @ ero games.
Mar 23, 2008 6:20 AM

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I might've liked Noe more if they kept her original character design

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3681/protonoega8.jpg

Looks like Tomoyo (HIromi's best friend) was Hiromi Version 1

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7316/protohiromidd6.jpg
Mar 23, 2008 12:00 PM

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But you always need a short haired girl in harems.
Mar 24, 2008 10:18 PM

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the preview pics for episode 13 on the website have me slightly worried, if we get an ef episode 10 here it makes no fucking sense unlike in ef. An ef episode 10 ending with Kei/Hiromi and Hiro/Shin going to just being friends will be complete and utter bullshit. Hiro never saw Kei like Shin did Hiromi

Win or lose, 9 or 6 I'm done with these fucking shows after True Tears. (not counting KOR!)
WestloMar 24, 2008 10:27 PM
Mar 24, 2008 11:00 PM

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I still say Hiromi is going to off Shin.
Mar 24, 2008 11:14 PM

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pic that had me worried actually/maybe has shin blushing (someone blew it up x5000 and it looks like a bit of red on both sides, I did the same and agree) so ignore what I said.

Website ep 13 preview lines bolded



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Mar 24, 2008 11:33 PM

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Westlo said:
pic that had me worried actually/maybe has shin blushing (someone blew it up x5000 and it looks like a bit of red on both sides, I did the same and agree) so ignore what I said.

Website ep 13 preview lines bolded





Is sensing this show getting a lower rating from you if Noe wins.
Mar 25, 2008 12:02 AM

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You're right since a Noe ending makes no sense and would be a prime example of crappy writing. Still at worst it will drop from a 9 to an 7/8. You won't see a reaction like this from me... Kimikiss 24 spoilers..

http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showpost.php?post/681923/

I can't fathom why that guy was so pissed off, how the fuck didn't he see it coming.
Mar 25, 2008 10:55 AM

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Saw true tears 10,11,12.
Noe won't win, he only chased her to tell her that he has finished the picture book, and to thank her for cheering up for him etc.
Mar 29, 2008 5:17 AM

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I've stupidly used up 47.9 gig out of my 50 gig CAP so I guess I will have to follow the spoilers since it will take 5 days to switch from adsl to adsl2. I intended to switch after downloading True Tears 13, damn 1.5 gig rip of Do You Remember Love :\

I guess I might as well read the spoilers now since it will be impossible to avoid spoilers for me on this and other forums.. I'm expected a Yay/fuck Hiromi/Noe won comment or two on my profile here.. also my "bet" on Suki will get addressed.. fuck I don't want to use a Kai from Kimikiss avatar for 3 months if Hiromi loses... :\

My streak is on the line too, I hope I don't lose after getting the following right. KGNE, ef a tale of memories, Ichigo 100% manga, Please Twins*, Ayu Mayu*

* In this case it was predicting who would not be the sister and end up the love interest, these two shows I decided in the first episode/chapter each. It was simple, the "hotter" one will be the love interest.
Mar 29, 2008 10:33 AM

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Mar 29, 2008 10:57 AM

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Guess i better buckle down and start ignoring threads on this on AN and even here, someone always spoils em ;)
Mar 29, 2008 11:04 AM

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There will be a speed sub out really soon.

<tun> speed subs of the ending soon
<tun> i'm cutting the video right now

Which is good because I'm halfway through the raw and have no fucking idea what they are saying
Mar 31, 2008 9:10 AM

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My mini-review from AN:
A good show that started out strong and tried to throw curve balls at you, but by the end kind of fizzled out with usual predictability. The show had some good and interesting characters, and it was nice that Shinichiro wasn't a complete moron like some male leads in this genre. While predictable at first, the story started throwing curve balls at you early on to keep things interesting, unfortunately these had all but resolved themselves by episode 10, and the final surprise in episode 12 was also quickly resolved, leaving the show to end in a very much "saw it coming" fashion. The animation and music where well done, and the series does look very good consistently though each episode. Good BGM and good OP/ED themes were also present. Well, I liked the show, but I know I wouldn't go near it with BVUSA's prices when it finally comes out stateside. Good - (7/10)
Mar 31, 2008 9:17 AM

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I really liked how they didn't flat out say it but you can tell that

Shin = Shin's father
Hiromi = Shin's mother
Noe = Hiromi's mother

I'm really looking forward to seeing what P.A Works produce next, their animation was really nice (bad cg shots aside) and it was nice too see some basketball without speed lines coughclannadcough.

Still can't believe the True Tears director was the same person who butchered the Samurai Deeper Kyo manga : Still with True Tears and Simoun he's on a role lately.

Anyway this and ef are much better than anything else in the genre released in the last few years, I'm hoping a similar show as good as those 2 comes out this Summer/Fall since Spring has none.
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Oh, right, since I was avoiding the threads for two weeks to avoid spoilers, I must say that:
Noe w/ long hair >>>>>> Noe w/ short hair.

While I liked Noe, by the time the last few episodes rolled around, it was obvious Shin wouldn't end up with her, unless the staff just decided to randomly jump ship (Which would've been meet with only a "Decent" review). I was hopping for a little more between Shin x Hiromi in the final episode though.
Mar 31, 2008 12:24 PM

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Yeah i thought it was pretty good but not stellar. The whole parts in the middle with his mom kinda knocked it down a bit imo.

I mentioned it on AN, one thing i really did like was
Apr 3, 2008 2:19 AM

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Finished True Tears, is it just me or they still didn't explain why Shinichiros mom was a bitch for more then half of the show?
Apr 3, 2008 6:10 AM

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Okay lets say Shin and Hiromi get married, Noe marries some dude.. let's call him Tom. Lets say these two couples are on friendly terms but mainly because of Shin and Noe. They also have one kid each... than one day Noe and Tom die in a car crash and their girl um... Floe moves into their house because Shin insists on it. Let's say Floe looks just like a younger version of Noe. Hiromi never liked Noe, she nearly lost Shin to her, probably disliked being friends with Noe and Tom but went along with it because Shin wanted that. Now she gets a constant reminder of Noe living in her house with her and Shin as well as her son (lets call him.. Bob!). I don't exactly think Hiromi would act warmly to Floe...

Anyway in the above paragraph replace Shin and Hiromi with Shin's parents, Noe and Tom with Hiromi's parents etc and thats why she acted like a bitch for half the series. I mentioned in the suki speculation thread I suspected a parallel triangle after looking at the ep 13 pics and ep 13 all but confirmed it. TT has more depth than most visual/ero game adaptions like Kimikiss, Myself Yourself and I haven't seen it but going by the general apathy for it I'm sure I'm right but Da Capo 2.

Here's what I typed on the day the final episode aired, it's rough but I cbf reading through 200+ posts to fix up any small errors or add something I missed.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=18205&show=100#msg742392
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I got the parallel too, and i may have understood her reasoning but i still didnt like how they didn't make any effort to explain that reasoning to bob and floe, yet floe was happy and forgiving with everything anyway and bob just had to cope with Shin''s pimp slap for an explanation.

Still i agree it beats out kimikiss by a mile...not sure id say it beats out Myself Yourself tho. Da Capo 2? rotflmao...i think rosario beats that for depth of plot and overall show quality :P
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DazarGaidin said:
Da Capo 2? rotflmao...i think rosario beats that for depth of plot and overall show quality :P


That's just going too far. lol

Da Capo 2 may have had some really bad parts, but it overall was not that bad. Minatsu's story was good until the last episode, and Koko's story was good whenever Captain Density wasn't on the screen. I'm not making fun of him, I just really forgot his name. Oh well. *shrug*

I haven't finished Rosario to Vampire yet, but I can't see it being anywhere near the level of even something like Da Capo II.
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Hm.. that is certainly an explanation.. a very weak one but I guess I have no other choice but to bear with it...
I still can't believe Hiromi forgave that bitch so easily..
Apr 3, 2008 7:59 AM

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I don't think she really forgave her until that part where she said thank you. When Shin's mum knocked on her door her face was like "I thought this was Shin, wtf is this bitch doing here?" lol

@ Dazar

Myself Yourself was horribly paced (the first 6 episodes would've been fine pacing if it was 24 eps long, not 13) and the ending was just meh, we both suck and than flash forward ten years. I admit it had good shock value at times but for me that stuff doesn't fare so well when I look back at series. Only real good scene of note after 3 months of it being over is the letterbox one.
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Westlo said:
I don't think she really forgave her until that part where she said thank you.

Well, I still think it's too soon, in fact I think any time is too soon. The emotional damage is just too big to be forgiven. I try to think about what it's like, to have my parents killed and then being adopted by a family whose mother hates me, not only do I have a big emotional damage due to death of my family, but I constantly face the hatred coming from the "new" family.. It's like I am ghost, I go to school, then I come home, seat near the PC. I certainly can't talk with anyone since the father is busy, and I'm in love with the other kid in the family and I think that were siblings. The way I see it, I will certainly spend a lot of money on psychs when I grow up, and it's a fucking miracle I didn't commit suicide.

Anyway, as far as my opinion goes, Shin's mom should be crucified.

Westlo said:
When Shin's mum knocked on her door her face was like "I thought this was Shin, wtf is this bitch doing here?" lol
:lol: XD
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Westlo said:

Myself Yourself was horribly paced (the first 6 episodes would've been fine pacing if it was 24 eps long, not 13) and the ending was just meh, we both suck and than flash forward ten years. I admit it had good shock value at times but for me that stuff doesn't fare so well when I look back at series. Only real good scene of note after 3 months of it being over is the letterbox one.

Something I later realized looking back, I still enjoy it, but I think the 9 I gave it was a little high. I did like your analysis of the Shin/Hiromi/Noe situation with the parents, something I noticed a bit in the final but it didn't quite sink in till I read your post on it.
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Hajime_Saitou said:

I haven't finished Rosario to Vampire yet, but I can't see it being anywhere near the level of even something like Da Capo II.


I told you not to watch it..
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