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Can someone please fix that ?




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Apr 13, 2023 6:15 AM
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no. because Zeke isn't the beast titan. Zeke is the CURRENT holder of the beast titan. they are two separate entities. it just so happens, that Zeke possesses the beast titan powers. during the attack on Eren you will see another beast Titan. that's not Zeke. but it's the beast Titan.
you already saw a bunch of colossal titans. are all of these Armin? no. is Armin Berthold because both of the Colossal Titan??? obviously not. The titan is separate from the human wielder. Thus it makes sense to have different entries.
Apr 13, 2023 6:19 AM
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what the above post said. also spoiler reasons.
Apr 13, 2023 7:41 AM
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As the above stated, it's spoilers.
Apr 13, 2023 8:51 AM
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as the above dude sead
Apr 13, 2023 8:53 AM
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This is for season 2. Kinda obvious ain't it?
Apr 13, 2023 9:17 AM
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wow people got past season 2
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Apr 13, 2023 9:21 AM
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It's none of the reasons stated above. This is probably a case of MAL being stupid. Beast Titan and Cart Titan are the only ones having separate entries, so the reason that they are accounted separately because of different holder is nonsense.
Apr 13, 2023 9:23 AM
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halfpastnein said:
no. because Zeke isn't the beast titan. Zeke is the CURRENT holder of the beast titan. they are two separate entities. it just so happens, that Zeke possesses the beast titan powers. during the attack on Eren you will see another beast Titan. that's not Zeke. but it's the beast Titan.
you already saw a bunch of colossal titans. are all of these Armin? no. is Armin Berthold because both of the Colossal Titan??? obviously not. The titan is separate from the human wielder. Thus it makes sense to have different entries.

No, that's not the reason. If it were so, every titan would have a separate entry.
Apr 13, 2023 10:02 AM
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I forgot about it lol
Apr 13, 2023 10:16 AM

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PikaboyTK said:
halfpastnein said:
no. because Zeke isn't the beast titan. Zeke is the CURRENT holder of the beast titan. they are two separate entities. it just so happens, that Zeke possesses the beast titan powers. during the attack on Eren you will see another beast Titan. that's not Zeke. but it's the beast Titan.
you already saw a bunch of colossal titans. are all of these Armin? no. is Armin Berthold because both of the Colossal Titan??? obviously not. The titan is separate from the human wielder. Thus it makes sense to have different entries.

No, that's not the reason. If it were so, every titan would have a separate entry.

as they should, for the reason i stated above
Apr 13, 2023 10:17 AM

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I want to apologize to anyone i have spoilered. I'm incredibly sorry. I did not notice this is season 2. i blindly assumed this is the current season. I assumed so as i didn't think anyone would open up a discussion post in an old season.
Apr 13, 2023 10:20 AM

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halfpastnein said:
PikaboyTK said:

No, that's not the reason. If it were so, every titan would have a separate entry.

as they should, for the reason i stated above

But they don't. So your reasoning is invalid.
Apr 13, 2023 10:26 AM

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PikaboyTK said:
halfpastnein said:

as they should, for the reason i stated above

But they don't. So your reasoning is invalid.

how is my reasoning invalid, when it fits the AoT lore? care to explain?

even if we move away from the lore, the character page describes a character. and the description of the beast titan greatly differentiates from that of Zeke, would you not agree with that statement?
furthermore, there might be someone out there who wants to list the beast titan specifically as favorite, but not Zeke. i don't know why anyone would want that but I'm sure somebody like that exists, somewhere.

so, according to these two different points, how would it be wrong or invalid to have different character pages?
Apr 13, 2023 10:49 AM
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Because it’s a spoiler buddy 😂
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halfpastnein said:
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But they don't. So your reasoning is invalid.

how is my reasoning invalid, when it fits the AoT lore? care to explain?

even if we move away from the lore, the character page describes a character. and the description of the beast titan greatly differentiates from that of Zeke, would you not agree with that statement?
furthermore, there might be someone out there who wants to list the beast titan specifically as favorite, but not Zeke. i don't know why anyone would want that but I'm sure somebody like that exists, somewhere.

so, according to these two different points, how would it be wrong or invalid to have different character pages?

First of all, the reasons you stated now and before are completely different. Second, only Beast Titan and Cart Titan have a separate page on the website. The reason for that has got nothing to do with any of the lore of the show, nor does it have anything to do with them being "separate entities" than their holders. Like I mentioned before, if that were the case, every member of the nine would have multiple pages. But they don't, thus making your point invalid in this context.

As for your concern of them having different descriptions, spoiler section exists. That's how it is for every shifter in the show, you can check it. So that makes a separate page quite redundant.

Now, as for why they probably have a separate page. For the titan to be considered as a spoiler for that particular character (like with everyone else), that human character should be introduced before the titan, or it wouldn't work. Beast and Cart are the only exceptions to this, being introduced as titans an entire season before their formal introductions. Hence, separate character pages.
Apr 13, 2023 11:25 AM
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Probably because when the characters were first added to the database, it wasn't yet known that they're one and the same, so it kinda stayed that way

Beast titan should get removed, but probably wasn't due to some oversight
Apr 13, 2023 11:45 AM
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Muhammad Abdul dude explained well
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BugsBuggy said:
Muhammad Abdul dude explained well

thanks a lot bro 👍🏽
Apr 13, 2023 12:30 PM

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PikaboyTK said:
halfpastnein said:

how is my reasoning invalid, when it fits the AoT lore? care to explain?

even if we move away from the lore, the character page describes a character. and the description of the beast titan greatly differentiates from that of Zeke, would you not agree with that statement?
furthermore, there might be someone out there who wants to list the beast titan specifically as favorite, but not Zeke. i don't know why anyone would want that but I'm sure somebody like that exists, somewhere.

so, according to these two different points, how would it be wrong or invalid to have different character pages?

First of all, the reasons you stated now and before are completely different. Second, only Beast Titan and Cart Titan have a separate page on the website. The reason for that has got nothing to do with any of the lore of the show, nor does it have anything to do with them being "separate entities" than their holders. Like I mentioned before, if that were the case, every member of the nine would have multiple pages. But they don't, thus making your point invalid in this context.

As for your concern of them having different descriptions, spoiler section exists. That's how it is for every shifter in the show, you can check it. So that makes a separate page quite redundant.

Now, as for why they probably have a separate page. For the titan to be considered as a spoiler for that particular character (like with everyone else), that human character should be introduced before the titan, or it wouldn't work. Beast and Cart are the only exceptions to this, being introduced as titans an entire season before their formal introductions. Hence, separate character pages.

yes it's called giving additional arguments.

and as I said before, all nine titans could have different entries. I don't see a problem with that, other than maybe it driving the total count of pages up. and redundancy as you've already said. which is a pretty good reason.

now, your last point is what I didn't think about and probably the reason why it has been handled this way, rather than anything i came up with to explain it. I am glad we had this little back and forth, which led to you coming up with the most likely explanation for this.

thanks and have a good evening 🤝
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halfpastnein said:
PikaboyTK said:

First of all, the reasons you stated now and before are completely different. Second, only Beast Titan and Cart Titan have a separate page on the website. The reason for that has got nothing to do with any of the lore of the show, nor does it have anything to do with them being "separate entities" than their holders. Like I mentioned before, if that were the case, every member of the nine would have multiple pages. But they don't, thus making your point invalid in this context.

As for your concern of them having different descriptions, spoiler section exists. That's how it is for every shifter in the show, you can check it. So that makes a separate page quite redundant.

Now, as for why they probably have a separate page. For the titan to be considered as a spoiler for that particular character (like with everyone else), that human character should be introduced before the titan, or it wouldn't work. Beast and Cart are the only exceptions to this, being introduced as titans an entire season before their formal introductions. Hence, separate character pages.

yes it's called giving additional arguments.

and as I said before, all nine titans could have different entries. I don't see a problem with that, other than maybe it driving the total count of pages up. and redundancy as you've already said. which is a pretty good reason.

now, your last point is what I didn't think about and probably the reason why it has been handled this way, rather than anything i came up with to explain it. I am glad we had this little back and forth, which led to you coming up with the most likely explanation for this.

thanks and have a good evening 🤝

Well yeah all the nine titans could have had separate pages, but it kinda seems pointless since their info is already available in their shifters' spoiler section. And for beast and cart, I think them being introduced in different seasons as their human counterpart is probably the reason for this. So that's it really. Have a great evening too.
Apr 13, 2023 1:07 PM
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STSayeb said:
Can someone please fix that ?

The titan powers are essentially their own non thinking entity. The character who has the power have their own distinctive traits, but overall the power doesn't "belong" to them. For example, we've seen that Ymir, Porco, and Falco Grice all have distinctive jaw titan forms.
As such, I don't think it really matters that much if MAL has the titan powers listed as characters by themselves, although it doesn't matter either if it doesn't have them.
Apr 13, 2023 2:23 PM
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Bc they know how to avoid spoilers
Apr 13, 2023 4:32 PM

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Never noticed but all titans should have their own character pages.
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By the way, either delete or tag this post to avoid ruining others' experience.
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halfpastnein said:
I want to apologize to anyone i have spoilered. I'm incredibly sorry. I did not notice this is season 2. i blindly assumed this is the current season. I assumed so as i didn't think anyone would open up a discussion post in an old season.

Emperor behavior right there
Apr 13, 2023 9:39 PM

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PikaboyTK said:
It's none of the reasons stated above. This is probably a case of MAL being stupid. Beast Titan and Cart Titan are the only ones having separate entries, so the reason that they are accounted separately because of different holder is nonsense.

As a regular contributor, the most likely reason the Colossal Titan, Armored Titan or Female Titan don't already have character pages is more likely because people haven't made them yet. You can easily make a thread justifying their creation on MAL if you want them on here. They all follow the guidelines for characters that exist as a way to avoid spoilers. I can't see there being an actually deep reason for their exclusion.
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PikaboyTK said:
It's none of the reasons stated above. This is probably a case of MAL being stupid. Beast Titan and Cart Titan are the only ones having separate entries, so the reason that they are accounted separately because of different holder is nonsense.

As a regular contributor, the most likely reason the Colossal Titan, Armored Titan or Female Titan don't already have character pages is more likely because people haven't made them yet. You can easily make a thread justifying their creation on MAL if you want them on here. They all follow the guidelines for characters that exist as a way to avoid spoilers. I can't see there being an actually deep reason for their exclusion.


Actually, I think the opposite should happen. Beast and Cart don't really need to have a separate page for them. There's like 2 lines written for both of them anyway, nothing much. But like many others said, it was probably done for spoiler reasons, since the shifters of both don't show up in the same season, while the other titan/shifter duo show up together in same seasons.
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halfpastnein said:
no. because Zeke isn't the beast titan. Zeke is the CURRENT holder of the beast titan. they are two separate entities. it just so happens, that Zeke possesses the beast titan powers. during the attack on Eren you will see another beast Titan. that's not Zeke. but it's the beast Titan.
you already saw a bunch of colossal titans. are all of these Armin? no. is Armin Berthold because both of the Colossal Titan??? obviously not. The titan is separate from the human wielder. Thus it makes sense to have different entries.
well I am saying this because they won't have separate character entries . And even If the manga already has ancient shifters , there aren't any character entries of them . Is there even a character entry for Colossal titan ?




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Apr 13, 2023 11:35 PM

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fyrflys said:
what the above post said. also spoiler reasons.
you for the first few episodes , The appearance of the Attack Titan was also quite a spoiler of Eren having that . But that doesn't have any character entries due to the spoiler reason that you are mentioning . Only the Beast titan and cart titan has it
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wow people got past season 2
yeah man . Did you just wake up ? Where were you all these days ?




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STSayeb said:
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wow people got past season 2
yeah man . Did you just wake up ? Where were you all these days ?


Wow, it just shocking news to me, I've only just watched season 2 and man oh man it was bad.
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AnimePedestrian said:
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yeah man . Did you just wake up ? Where were you all these days ?


Wow, it just shocking news to me, I've only just watched season 2 and man oh man it was bad.
yeah so bad that most people went back to time just to erase their experience of season 2 . Literally one of the worst seasons of anime history
. Man it was such a bad thing :⁠‑⁠X




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Apr 13, 2023 11:56 PM
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cuz i told them to make two
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STSayeb said:
AnimePedestrian said:


Wow, it just shocking news to me, I've only just watched season 2 and man oh man it was bad.
yeah so bad that most people went back to time just to erase their experience of season 2 . Literally one of the worst seasons of anime history
. Man it was such a bad thing :⁠‑⁠X


Well those time travellers didn't do a good job, season 1 and that Levi ova were also mid
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Apr 14, 2023 6:32 AM

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Its due to spoilers
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this is not so rare, Kaneki and haise are separated since they are the same person but without Memory, same thing with lelouch and Julius, same person, but different characters
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as the above dudes said
Apr 14, 2023 10:22 AM
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Because thats a spoiler jeez thanks for spoiling me 😒
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as the people above said
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I’m sorry but don’t the beast and cart titan get their own page because of the voice actors? If the titan doesn’t speak then why would it be up there? The beast and cart titan speak so they have their own casting, I thought that was obvious
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I’m sorry but don’t the beast and cart titan get their own page because of the voice actors? If the titan doesn’t speak then why would it be up there? The beast and cart titan speak so they have their own casting, I thought that was obvious

Well the jaw and war hammer can speak too, but they don't have a separate page on mal.
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cuz i told them to make two
please can you just tell them to remove those two whoever "them" are




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Apr 15, 2023 9:28 AM
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that’s like saying eren and attack titan should be the same entry. eren has the attack titan now but he didn’t always. what about grisha?
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PikaboyTK said:
It's none of the reasons stated above. This is probably a case of MAL being stupid. Beast Titan and Cart Titan are the only ones having separate entries, so the reason that they are accounted separately because of different holder is nonsense.

nono, it most definitely is the reason. the rest of the titans don’t have seperate entries YET
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pinchakaluka said:
PikaboyTK said:
It's none of the reasons stated above. This is probably a case of MAL being stupid. Beast Titan and Cart Titan are the only ones having separate entries, so the reason that they are accounted separately because of different holder is nonsense.

nono, it most definitely is the reason. the rest of the titans don’t have seperate entries YET

No it's definitely not. If that were the case, pages for other titans would have already been created, considering the last new appearance in the show was 3 years ago.
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PikaboyTK said:
pinchakaluka said:

nono, it most definitely is the reason. the rest of the titans don’t have seperate entries YET

No it's definitely not. If that were the case, pages for other titans would have already been created, considering the last new appearance in the show was 3 years ago.

then what’s the reason? what other reason could there be?
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pinchakaluka said:
PikaboyTK said:

No it's definitely not. If that were the case, pages for other titans would have already been created, considering the last new appearance in the show was 3 years ago.

then what’s the reason? what other reason could there be?

I as well as others have already stated multiple reasons in the replies above. The most simple one being that it's because of spoilers, since Beast and Cart shifters weren't introduced in the same season as the titans themselves.
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that doesn’t make sense
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pinchakaluka said:
that doesn’t make sense

It totally makes sense.
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