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Feb 5, 2023 1:04 AM
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In the new episode we learnt that Midoriya wants to save shigaraki. He may be being controlled by afo but even then he is a villian. He killed many. So he should  not be the victim right. Can anyone please explain this
And please refrain from telling mha is mid anime and it's a plot hole please 
Feb 5, 2023 1:13 AM
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akaivikram said:
In the new episode we learnt that Midoriya wants to save shigaraki. He may be being controlled by afo but even then he is a villian. He killed many. So he should  not be the victim right. Can anyone please explain this
And please refrain from telling mha is mid anime and it's a plot hole please 

you can correlate him to Obito, like how Naruto wanted to save him
Shigaraki Too is manipulated by Afo just like How Madara manipulated Obito
Feb 5, 2023 1:20 AM
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Whatever you can't justify the deeds that shigaraki has done. Deku saving him is just dump idea to me. And I hate MC's who idolise everything. They should learn from gintoki.
Feb 5, 2023 1:22 AM
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I still think he is kinda a victim (of his own quirk). His family didn't knew what his quirk was... His father was an a**hole... Okay, we can say it's partly Nana Shimura's fault, that she abandoned her son, but still. He had the chance to be a good father to Tomura. Shigaraki saw as a little kid, how his father hate the heros (and later he even experienced how unhelpful the heroes are)...
Then he accidentally kills his whole family, one by one. He might have intention of killing his father, but I am sure it wasn't on purpose, especially not killing his whole family. Then that poor kid was there on the streets, without no one, and not even one person or hero stopped to help him. They even talked about this in the anime, that even heroes not saving everyone. OFA was the only one who payed attention and comforted him and kinda raised him, but in a bad way.
I am not suprised about his actions... If a hero would have helped him, maybe he wouldn't turn into a villain... But Shigaraki was basically traumatized since he was a kid, I am not suprised at all.
I am not saying that it's okay what he did in this season, because it's not, but I agree with him being a victim, and I can imagine that he just want to be saved (since he was a kid). ➡️ This would be a parallel about what Deku said/what was in the opening, that it's basically kid Shigaraki, that is crying for help inside, and I can totally understand that. But it's my own opinion.
_Kitsuchi_Feb 5, 2023 1:29 AM
Feb 5, 2023 1:44 AM
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_Kitsuchi_ said:
I still think he is kinda a victim (of his own quirk). His family didn't knew what his quirk was... His father was an a**hole... Okay, we can say it's partly Nana Shimura's fault, that she abandoned her son, but still. He had the chance to be a good father to Tomura. Shigaraki saw as a little kid, how his father hate the heros (and later he even experienced how unhelpful the heroes are)...
Then he accidentally kills his whole family, one by one. He might have intention of killing his father, but I am sure it wasn't on purpose, especially not killing his whole family. Then that poor kid was there on the streets, without no one, and not even one person or hero stopped to help him. They even talked about this in the anime, that even heroes not saving everyone. OFA was the only one who payed attention and comforted him and kinda raised him, but in a bad way.
I am not suprised about his actions... If a hero would have helped him, maybe he wouldn't turn into a villain... But Shigaraki was basically traumatized since he was a kid, I am not suprised at all.
I am not saying that it's okay what he did in this season, because it's not, but I agree with him being a victim, and I can imagine that he just want to be saved (since he was a kid). ➡️ This would be a parallel about what Deku said/what was in the opening, that it's basically kid Shigaraki, that is crying for help inside, and I can totally understand that. But it's my own opinion.

Ok but the thing I was asking is that even after all the things he did how can we say that he is the one to be saved. He is the victimizer right? How can he be 'rescued' after all the things he did? seperating him from afo will also leave the villian shigaraki right? but thanks for your answer
Feb 5, 2023 1:55 AM
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_Kitsuchi_ said:
I still think he is kinda a victim (of his own quirk). His family didn't knew what his quirk was... His father was an a**hole... Okay, we can say it's partly Nana Shimura's fault, that she abandoned her son, but still. He had the chance to be a good father to Tomura. Shigaraki saw as a little kid, how his father hate the heros (and later he even experienced how unhelpful the heroes are)...
Then he accidentally kills his whole family, one by one. He might have intention of killing his father, but I am sure it wasn't on purpose, especially not killing his whole family. Then that poor kid was there on the streets, without no one, and not even one person or hero stopped to help him. They even talked about this in the anime, that even heroes not saving everyone. OFA was the only one who payed attention and comforted him and kinda raised him, but in a bad way.
I am not suprised about his actions... If a hero would have helped him, maybe he wouldn't turn into a villain... But Shigaraki was basically traumatized since he was a kid, I am not suprised at all.
I am not saying that it's okay what he did in this season, because it's not, but I agree with him being a victim, and I can imagine that he just want to be saved (since he was a kid). ➡️ This would be a parallel about what Deku said/what was in the opening, that it's basically kid Shigaraki, that is crying for help inside, and I can totally understand that. But it's my own opinion.

damn that was a really good explanation
Feb 5, 2023 4:13 AM
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akaivikram said:
In the new episode we learnt that Midoriya wants to save shigaraki. He may be being controlled by afo but even then he is a villian. He killed many. So he should  not be the victim right. Can anyone please explain this
And please refrain from telling mha is mid anime and it's a plot hole please 

It's basically the same as Tanjiro from Demon Slayer. He sees the villains/demons as humans and tries to save them before killing them if necessary. Saving someone doesn't always mean not killing them. If Deku needs to kill Shigaraki he will do so but he refuses to see him as a monster like everybody else.
Feb 5, 2023 7:18 AM
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akaivikram said:
In the new episode we learnt that Midoriya wants to save shigaraki. He may be being controlled by afo but even then he is a villian. He killed many. So he should  not be the victim right. Can anyone please explain this
And please refrain from telling mha is mid anime and it's a plot hole please 

yeah as everyone else said: Shigaraki did terrible things and needs to be held accountable and if they can’t subdue him they will kill him, but Deku wants to try and free his true personality, the original little boy that wanted to be a hero. He wants to “save” him from the essentially brainwashing and trauma he’s went through since childhood. Prob is: dude IS a villain and comically dangerous so most likely he either dies or goes to big jail
Feb 5, 2023 10:26 AM
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Shigaraki should definitely be saved, he is already the best character of the series by a large margin and deku would be labeled a murderer if he did something bad to him
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Feb 6, 2023 4:30 AM
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isn’t it obvious. He’s not consciously doing all this because he’s being controlled by AFO. It’s a catch 22 situation where u kinda need to kill him but at the same time he doesn’t deserve it, but he does deserve it at the same time 😂
Apr 5, 2023 1:24 AM

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Apparently killing is wrong, it doesn't matter whether the person is good or bad. Taking justice in your own hands, being judge, jury and executioner, in general is not looked kindly upon. Society is funny in that regard, but hey let's just agree that the punishment doesn't always fit the crime.

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