Isekai?

RequiemLo64 said:
Well someone did his homework (sarcasm)

Triggerfish124 said:

You do realize we would never have had this argument if you hadn't commented on my post undermining my answer, right? I didn't send a comment on yours saying you're wrong. I could've sent you an essay on how although isekai do generally include death and summoning, not all 3 are required to make it an isekai. Some examples of popular isekai that do this are Overlord, which is an isekai but not once has it answered how he got there, No Game No Life, where the god of the world literally grabbed the main characters from a game and dragged them to his world, Mushoku Tensei, where the main character died but was reborn as a baby, Tanya the Evil, who died and was reborn as a baby, Tensei Shitara Slime, who was reborn as a slime in a fantasy world, My Next Life as a Villainess: All routes Lead to Doom, where she is reborn into a world that follows the rules of a romance game, and Konosuba, where the mc died and the gods - or specifically, goddess - let him reincarnate into another world. I'm not sure what you mean by transference but in some cases of this the only thing the main characters brought with them is their soul. Isekai Ojisan is a currently airing anime where the main character literally calls his trip to another world an isekai, and he didn't die, was just in a coma until apparently he defeated the demon king and came back. Most of these are given the isekai tag, so unless you disagree with the tag as a whole, then your entire opinion of what makes an isekai an isekai is different than what anime considers to be an isekai. There is nothing wrong with that, but at the same time it doesn't seem right to me for you to comment on several people's comments on why they're wrong. In either way, I don't base my opinions on things just on what anime tags things. The otome game one apparently isn't listed as one, but I still consider it one, because my definition of an isekai is where the main character is transported to another world and has no logical means of getting back.

But I digress. You're painting me out to he someone who hates freedom of speech. Am I not allowed to state my opinion? Idk what you mean by backlash, this is between you and me. Maybe you're the one going through backlash, since you replied to so many different people, but I'm only arguing with you so I don't see backlash of the majority on my part. If you truly didn't want an argument, you could have worded yourself quite differently. For example, "I disagree with you but I'm glad you see the possibility that it really isn't an isekai." Instead every single message of yours has been rude, so you're obviously not against fighting over something trivial. I won't say I haven't been rude either, but let's just come to a mutual understanding mate. I read your first message as passive aggressive and I didn't like how you specifically called me out for being wrong when I included the information that would make people not consider it an isekai, my comment if anything was as non aggressive as it could've been. If you think Angel Beats isn't an isekai, that's fine. All that matters with anime is whether you like it or not and even then people shouldn't tell you you're wrong for disliking it.

RequiemLo64 said:
did he not ask for the source of my quote

RequiemLo64 said:

Yeah I don’t see myself turning on the child filters for you or anyone, keeping it 💯, isn’t rude just don’t be sensitive but i mean you got a point, this isn’t a MW3 lobby, however .com I don’t see how i was being all that rude, im still watching overlord but that would fall under transference, given ainz is sent from his video game to a fantasy world based on his game, i see nothing wrong with replying to specific, handpicked quotes that just aren’t it chief, if you do that sounds like a U problem besides its a forum, aren’t discussions, debates, and arguments that are informative the point of a forum? Or are you concerned you were picked specifically for a quote I found not it chief? Cause im not gonna lie, yours wasn’t and I decided to leave my opinion you didn’t ask for, also the point of a forum, i don’t mind having civil discussions or arguments about anime, its what I’m passionate about, and how i get my message across the board isn’t rude, again, thats a U problem, i didn’t exactly say the most grotesque things or insult you like we’re playing call of duty, i was just straight to the point and you somehow have a problem with that. But if i must I’ll speak in layman’s terms

Triggerfish124 said:

The thread is for people to express their opinions of whether Angel Beats is an isekai or not. We both sent our opinions on it. what was excessive was replying to others and telling them they are wrong. Simply because you have the freedom to do so does not mean you should, and honestly if you are arguing that you should commend me for replying to you instead of calling me a child when I'm doing exactly what youre doing, albeit on a smaller scale.

Either way, Overlord did not include summoning nor his death so it doesn't have all 3. If you agree that Overlord is an isekai, Angel Beats should fit your criteria for isekai because the mc died, they all did, and they appeared in another world. I am not trying to change your opinion nor telling you you are wrong just stating facts of whats been said and how I see it.

RequiemLo64 said:

Excessive? So understandingwhat others think and why is excessive? Duly noted, overlord is an isekai, fantasy element aside, because manz is playing a game in his world then his mind body and soul are transferred into a fantasy world based on the game he was playing, angel beats cant be considered one because they’re in the same world, higher plane of existence, thats almost like saying tokyo revengers is an isekai just because time travel is involved. I don’t get your logic

PurgatrioFan666 said:
the point of an isekai its the different povs of people from different worlds
in Angel Beats everyone is from earth, the people are the same you find in earth, the school is earthlike and the weapons are normal guns
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RequiemLo64 said:
Angel beats is not an isekai, you can’t fix ignorance, it is what it is, but just so y’all know a different world and different plane of existence do differ, there are aforementioned criteria for isekai plus if this was an isekai, the person who made this thread wouldn’t ask of you consider it to be one.