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Dec 5, 2021 8:55 AM
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Heya !

In this topic, we'll try to translate some of your issues in some kind of action (or a succession of actions) that can be taken to solve them.

It may not be perfect, and I can't guarantee it will work, but I'm certain it's better to act than wait for things to degrade.

So !

We'll proceed by steps :

1. Identify a problem in your life, something you're often thinking about, or that keeps you from sleeping at night.

2. We'll try to do some research about it together, and look for what seems to be effective to solve it.

3. Define a concrete action that can be taken. It's best if it's something easy and that doesn't require a lot of effort, so maybe breaking it down in many little steps may be better.

4. Evaluate the effectiveness of the solution, and maybe change it a bit to get better results.

I must insist on something : this is an invitation to a problem-solving process, not a requirement.

You don't have to solve everything, it's ok to be a bit lazy about it (hell, I am as well).

That being said, I think it doesn't hurt to try ;)



Feel free to speak out, don't be scared !
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Jun 20, 2022 7:25 PM
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I'll volunteer to go first.

I have a difficult time asking for help until I'm near a break down. I think it's a pride thing more than anything else. I'd say I accept help that's offered to me but I don't always do that either.

What do?
Jun 21, 2022 12:22 AM
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@_Lycka_

Thank you for doing so :)

Well, let's start by the why...

What is the root of your feeling ?

Are you overwhelmed by your current situation, events ...?

Also yes, it's better to ask for help than facing the impossible alone, that way we can both improve everyone's situation instead of suffering isolated in front of the task :)

Union is strength ;)
Jun 21, 2022 7:53 AM
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Moonspeak said:
@_Lycka_

Thank you for doing so :)

Well, let's start by the why...

What is the root of your feeling ?

Are you overwhelmed by your current situation, events ...?

Also yes, it's better to ask for help than facing the impossible alone, that way we can both improve everyone's situation instead of suffering isolated in front of the task :)

Union is strength ;)


I think the root is a trait I picked up from my dad. He's a workaholic who always says "if you want something done right you've gotta do it yourself". I swear the man will work himself to death if he doesn't start slowing down.

I've spent approximately 30 years handling everything myself. I don't recall asking for much help in my teen years either. Anything I thought I could do, or should do, myself I would do myself. But with three kids those things I think I should do are getting further out of reach of "could do". Taking out the garbage for example. Being more on top of family finances and medical paperwork. Vacuuming. Things that I feel are my responsibility.

To be honest, I have made an effort to ask for more help, but I get frustrated the times my husband and mother in law don't share my sense of urgency. If I'm a "doer" they are "thinkers". Both ways have pros and cons of course so I don't want to change them, and it could be worse, like I'm raising three children without any support, but I keep getting frustrated anyway, and that isn't fair to them.

I know I just need to calm down and stop expecting my idea of perfection but easier said than done.
Jun 21, 2022 8:13 AM
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@_Lycka_

Sadly your situation is pretty common.

I think it's fair to assume the change needeed here does not have to be coming only from you, but also and mainly from your surroundings.

Asking for help is what you need to do more indeed, you may otherwise end up getting crushed by the task at hand alone, I know raising 3 children is a lot of work.

You are not in the need of thinkers here, you need some concrete and regular actions from the other adults.

Are your standards of "perfection" that unreasonable ?

Could you tell me about the kind of tasks you'd like help with more often for example ?
Jun 21, 2022 10:44 AM
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Part of it is, when I ask for something to be done, I expect it done quickly or at least that I won't have to ask multiple times for it to get done. I get anxious in clutter and my tolerance for it is much lower than my husband (which in a way is kind of nice; compared to my dad who also doesn't like clutter but expects others to keep it maintained.)

I also get irritated that our oldest isn't getting outside as much. When I'm able I take her outside at least for a walk every day but I'm the only one who knows how to work my son's medical equipment so I'm tethered. My husband just isn't as active as I am and can't stand hot weather but he is working on getting our oldest out more. He took her to the petting zoo today so I'm very happy about that.
Jun 21, 2022 10:59 AM
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@_Lycka_

Ok, so you are getting some help from your husband, that is a good start.

It is normal that you do not have to say what is to be done all the time, and it is not your fault people around you don't have those habits.

Maybe letting go sometime about the delays would work out in a favorable way indeed, but you don't have to wait for your husband do clean the dishes two days after you asked him (just an example, I don't know what your situation is exactly).

There is some middle ground to be found, but your expectations are far from being unreasonable.

Now, I think the question is :

How to change the situation to make it bareable for you ?

Have you tried taking some time to talk about it with your family ?

Not shouting or getting angry of course, but calmly sitting them down and explaining to them it is hard for you to manage everything and to remind them all the time of what should be natural, that it has consequences on your well being and offering them to participate in a more active manner, like giving them tasks they are supposed to do (maybe your eldest can take out trash for example) in a timely manner, and making it official with a paper agenda/calendar/plan for example ?

What are your thoughts about this ?
Jun 21, 2022 11:10 PM
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@Moonspeak

My oldest isn't quite two yet. But, she is learning to clean up her own toys in exchange for stickers, so that helps.

In the past I've written out a chore schedule but my husband ignored it lol. It might be worth another shot. He's really stepped up with the twins in the picture.

That said, I've been thinking today that my anxiety over clutter probably stems from childhood when having a messy room meant a punishment of some kind (grounding, my dad even removed our bedroom doors once so he could see in passing if our rooms were clean)

With that in mind I want to say it'll be easy to let go of the reigns since no one with punish me but we'll see if that's something I can put into practice.
Jun 22, 2022 12:39 AM
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@_Lycka_

I see ;)

Well, if the anxiety comes from that idea of punishment, it could be a good idea to let go a bit indeed, and see that this has not so bad consequences now.

That being said, your family could notice that there is an anxiety indeed, and help you to relax about it... by doing some of the chores from time to time ;)

I think the key is : communication.

Let them know how you feel about all of it, so that they don't take your everyday strength for granted, they must realize the burden it is for you and act.

So, what do you think ?

A laid out schedule to give you more time, and talking about it with your husband and other family around to be sure they get you right, do you want to try that ? ;)
Jul 13, 2022 4:33 AM

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So, let's start with you.

What's your current state of mind ?

Are you happy, frustrated, tired in your life ?

Don't hesitate to share your feelings here, I won't be judging or trolling if the conv is done in a respectful manner.
Jul 13, 2022 7:12 AM

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@SunOfAWhich

Like in a no fluctuations of emotions kinda way ?
Jul 13, 2022 7:49 PM

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@SunOfAWhich

There is no such thing as normal ;)

But as you like.

@_Lycka_

Lol

Indeed
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Jul 13, 2022 11:05 PM
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There is no such thing as normal ;)

But as you like.


(Well... there is, but it's a line perpendicular to a surface)
Jul 30, 2022 2:04 PM

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@_Lycka_

By the way, since it's been a couple of weeks...

How are things going on your side ?

Is it getting a bit easier ?
Aug 3, 2022 10:43 AM
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Moonspeak said:
@_Lycka_

By the way, since it's been a couple of weeks...

How are things going on your side ?

Is it getting a bit easier ?
It is getting easier. I've noticed my mom in law is a lot more helpful to me when my husband is at the office. Not entirely sure why but to be honest I'm not really interested in making it my business, ya know?
Aug 3, 2022 11:50 AM

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@_Lycka_

Cool !

If I may though...

Making a point to say thank you to the person helping you may incite them to think of it as the right thing to do, and repeat it in the future.

So in fact, I'd try thanking her, to see if she keeps helping you, or even starts improving your relationship a bit ;)
Aug 3, 2022 1:40 PM
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Moonspeak said:
@_Lycka_

Cool !

If I may though...

Making a point to say thank you to the person helping you may incite them to think of it as the right thing to do, and repeat it in the future.

So in fact, I'd try thanking her, to see if she keeps helping you, or even starts improving your relationship a bit ;)


No worries on that end. I always thank her and do what I can to help her in ways she's not as able. Honestly I probably have a better relationship with her than my husband has with her.
Aug 3, 2022 1:43 PM

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@_Lycka_

Guess I should expect no less from you ;)

Well...

Fingers crossed for the future then !
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