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arvin_1219 said:
Kintarovirusx said:

bruh that wasn't earth magic
it was earth magic plus where u can do the same stuff as earth magic with better control
it's even better and in no way unsuitable for combat


aight, so I just finished seeing your other messages

Kintarovirusx said:
sigh...…..
if u read the post u would know i'm not asking why he can do those things
1) i'm asking why although he can do those things he was called useless and unsuitable for combat
2) how did the class go back up to surface so easily after he fell
3) how were such lvl 7 skills able to save him from the monsters and even enabled killing him, i get he had op earth magic but a floor 65+ monster should be able to destroy it easily and kill him afterwards with the same slash, the deeper floor monster being unable to destroy his lvl 7 defense but the weaker higher floor monster destroying everything is nonsense


1. because a synergist is understood by everyone as a blacksmith job and you can only have transmute magic with it. He don't have any affinity to any magic, that means casting other magic like a simple fireball will take him so many steps to do it. He has also have the average stats of a normal human meaning close combat is impossible. On questions about "even tho he can do those things" I'll say it later

2. in the LN, it was mentioned that the staircase they took is very long, as in very long that took them to the twentieth floor

3. again, that is not earth magic and that is not his own "creation" via magic, he is just reforming the shape of the earth hence his stats has nothing to do with the strength of the earth. and the anime showed it incorrectly, he was restraining the Behemoth via casting transmute every time there is a sign of struggle instead.

Since transmute is his only magic, he has trained it diligently to the point where he's able to cast it multiple times in succession and precisely. Take note his usage of the transmute skill is seen being "effectively used"

1-again missing the point, idc what is "understood by everyone" he was capable of building a tunnel to escape in seconds against a high level monster, and cause enough reformation in the earth to delay the behemoth, that's surely not useless in combat, in no world in being able to control the earth "useless"

2- so your argument is that the staircase near where the trap took them is a shortcut between 12 and 65 floor? if u think that makes sense that's a problem, and even if it was true it would be a plot hole on it's own

the 3rd point wasn't about it being earth magic (if only u read before replying......) it's about someone with less than lvl 7 being able to escape from a boss monster at floor lower than 65, whereas the knight and his class with higher levels couldn't escape from the behemoth on their own and needed him to buy time (who was completely strength type not agility which is the easiest type to escape from)

3.5- ok it's not earth magic it's earth magic plus that is much better/ and if u wanna say he can't strengthen the earth how did he stop the monster after falling from killing him i made it a separate extra point since u discussed something completely irrelevant
KintarovirusxFeb 25, 2022 7:47 AM
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Kintarovirusx said:
arvin_1219 said:


aight, so I just finished seeing your other messages



1. because a synergist is understood by everyone as a blacksmith job and you can only have transmute magic with it. He don't have any affinity to any magic, that means casting other magic like a simple fireball will take him so many steps to do it. He has also have the average stats of a normal human meaning close combat is impossible. On questions about "even tho he can do those things" I'll say it later

2. in the LN, it was mentioned that the staircase they took is very long, as in very long that took them to the twentieth floor

3. again, that is not earth magic and that is not his own "creation" via magic, he is just reforming the shape of the earth hence his stats has nothing to do with the strength of the earth. and the anime showed it incorrectly, he was restraining the Behemoth via casting transmute every time there is a sign of struggle instead.

Since transmute is his only magic, he has trained it diligently to the point where he's able to cast it multiple times in succession and precisely. Take note his usage of the transmute skill is seen being "effectively used"

1-again missing the point, idc what is "understood by everyone" he was capable of building a tunnel to escape in seconds against a high level monster, and cause enough reformation in the earth to delay the behemoth, that's surely not useless in combat, in no world in being able to control the earth "useless"

2- so your argument is that the staircase near where the trap took them is a shortcut between 12 and 65 floor? if u think that makes sense that's a problem, and even if it was true it would be a plot hole on it's own

the 3rd point wasn't about it being earth magic (if only u read before replying......) it's about someone with less than lvl 7 being able to escape from a boss monster at floor lower than 65, whereas the knight and his class with higher levels couldn't escape from the behemoth on their own and needed him to buy time (who was completely strength type not agility which is the easiest type to escape from)

3.5- ok it's not earth magic it's earth magic plus that is much better/ and if u wanna say he can't strengthen the earth how did he stop the monster after falling from killing him i made it a separate extra point since u discussed something completely irrelevant


1.you're already denying the answer to your point. "understood by everyone", that is precisely why he is labeled useless and weak, because he is a synergist and has average stats of a human. all of the performance you see him doing is due to his diligence of training AFTER being called useless and weak

2. I did not say 12, I said 20. and I didn't say it's a shortcut between 12th and 65th floor. the LN stated that the staircase in 65th floor is a very long one until they found a wall with a magic circle engraved with it. It's a hidden passage that means it's impossible to use that staircase from the 20th floor. if you remember, they were teleported via a trap from 20th floor to 65th floor, and then there's a behemoth there as a "trap". wouldn't a staircase going directly to where they got teleported from makes sense?

3. you keep saying lvl 7. level doesn't do any shit in the world of Arifureta, it's just a numerical value of what's the limit of a person can reach. It's stats that matters and in this case, it still doesn't matter because he is simply transmuting the earth around him. HIS STATS DOESN'T AFFECT THE EARTH. I don't know why you don't get how transmutation works, if it means changing the shape of the earth then it can be used best to bind a large enemy like a behemoth, regardless of it's strength and stats. and gee, I wonder what's the feeling of people like them suddenly being thrown in a trap and in death's door any minute. they're just regular people and kids/students before

3.5 gonna tell this firsthand, I mentioned this because of "questions about "even tho he can do those things"" in my first point (if only u read before replying......)

and now for the point, it. is. not. earth. magic. he did not produce earth on his own. I think you're thinking too much RPG in this and thinking of levels too much. it was shown the same in the anime that he just spammed transmute in front of him until he got enough distance from that bear enemy. now don't tell me this doesn't make sense too cuz if it is you're bullshitting already

and you know what? just read the light novels because season 1 is utter garbage instead of you complaining about the plot holes of the anime when they already skipped way too many stuff and explanations.
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