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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- The final hour of reckoning...that all vampires are loose, and the King of Vampire Fools Rufus Glenn has the newly revamped Special Forces Unit 16 Code Zero under control, thwarting the military with his vampire mentality and signalling the start of a new revolution. Defrott's Danny Boy performance has Rufus stunned of his survival, the heinous look on his face says it all. It's time for the Code Zero remnants to head out to face the vampire unit with the vampire kids, and thank God that Aoi is all good, recovered well and housed in Tenmanya. Even she embraced the vampire life being a human to her brother Kurusu, a full-fledged vampire waiting to strike. All vampires have gathered at the stage that is Tokyo Station (while the kids play Mikan): Kurusu vs. Maeda, the reunion of Suwa with his sister, Defrott vs. Rufus with the illusional dream. The final vampire battle beckons... |
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| Rufus is really playing his cards well by taking advantage of those Vampire Units like that and dealing with all the vampires on his own. But, he made a mistake, he's thinking too much of himself and calling himself 'the king of vampires'. That type of mentality takes people down. He thought he killed Defrott but nope, he's still alive. Aoi is chasing Kurusu for now. I hope she makes it there in time. Defrott playing his mind games with Rufus was too much for him to bear and I think he drowned there. LOL. And Suwa's reunion with his sister was cute. (My brain hurts) Maeda and Kurusu are going to have a final showdown in the last episode. |
Pre_YumJun 22, 2021 7:35 AM
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| First half of the episode felt like still image fluff. I thought this show could rebound in the last 2 episodes, but it's clear that it's only getting worse. No matter what happens at this point I do not believe it will pay off. Kurusu had his big reunion with Aoi off screen or something? Once again they teased Maeda for the 6th time at the end of the episode. I haven't been this disappointed in a show that I was really interested in, in a long time. |
TimidGazelleJun 21, 2021 2:18 PM
TimidGazelle said: I wonder how it stacks up to the stage play, since that had a really great receptionFirst half of the episode felt like still image fluff. I thought this show could rebound in the last 2 episodes, but it's clear that it's only getting worse. No matter what happens at this point I do not believe it will pay off. Kurusu had his big reunion with Aoi off screen or something? Once again they teased Maeda for the 6th time at the end of the episode. I haven't been this disappointed in a show that I was really interested in, in a long time. |
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| Am I the only one who felt kind of lost this episode? I felt like I'd somehow missed out on several large chunks of story. |
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| Rufus death suited his character but it felt very generic for a character like him to go out like that. I don't know I felt like the way he carried himself I thought his death could be more dramatic with a comedic twist but this was good enough. That romance that occurred at the end of the episode between the two vampire felt out of place since I barely got to know that orphan girl aside from the face she cared about kids? Well at least that scene didn't overstay its welcome. It was more of a 3/5 episode for the plot wrapping up. |
| it seems like they skipped over pretty important stuff, like aoi reuniting with kurusu/finding out he's a vampire and the whole traitor reveal of that girl who's name I don't remember (also, is she Suwa's sister? some other people said that but I don't remember that coming up in the anime). This episode just felt like a bunch of scenes slapped together in a really unsatisfying way, with very little continuity from the last episode. also I can't believe it's been this long since maeda became a vampire and he's done nothing the whole time. there isn't even enough time to salvage his character lol. well I'm not sure what I expected from this show but it certainly wasn't this. at least it's almost over lol |
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| while watching the episode i felt like i skipped an ep but i didnt, they did. they skipped some parts but we can still get what's going on so eh. little gir land suwa scene was really sweet i liked it. kurusu and maeda showdown next ep, have a feeling maeda will die, and kurusu might join him |
| Kurusu isn't AoI's brother, he grew with her family. They say in anime that her real brother, who was soldier, died and there is scene, where Kurusu says that he won't die like her brother and he will come back from his mission I dunno where people get idea that girl is Suwa's sister, he's like 200-300 year old and girl is newly converted by Rufus Maeda is crazy, we saw same thing happen with his fiancee in first ep. As for why he attack Kurusu - he hates vampires and now that he can't think clearly he wants to kill all vampires he sees |
| This episode is suddenly becoming too fast, man. I almost lost the plot when Rufus suddenly got an upper hand so much, until i realized, there's still a connection within Rufus succession. Its just a temporary matter. Defrott proved to be accomplishing his mission, giving Rufus such a nightmare. Its not what i expect over his instant death. But, well, that's how vampire dying. If not because of a sun burn, you died drowning in the darkness of the vast ocean. To my surprised its about those little girl vampire. She was the reason behind why Rufus successfully found Tenmaya hidden camp and burning those place. Thats answered her weird movement on some part at the previous episode. But, ofc everyone already move away, without a king of fools realizing it. How could it be like that? Pretty sure Takeuchi got one and two plans to disguised everything perfectly, and Suwa did the things only he could do, with those girl. Interesting, even though i can't appreciated it much because of its obvious dissapointed pacing. Especially with the last section of Maeda versus Kurusu, and then Suwa went to USA. Fuckin Suwa finally found his forever life partner! Well, can't judge it more than that. Because i already reach the final part next week. So, yeah, lets see how this show end.... |
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| That was a really great episode, probably my favorite by far. Showing the intro with Rufus feeling like he was the "King of Vampires" was great, only to find out Defrott and Code Zero is still alive, he's not the King of Vampires, he was the King of Fools. That was the perfect death for him, for someone who is insignificant that is trying to be significant. I really love Miyuki Sawashiro's performance in this, Defrott is awesome. Rufus's shocked face was beautiful. He was so weak that Shutarou didn't even notice that he was a vampire. Shutarou and Aoi was so adorable, I kinda wished they showed how Aoi reacted after seeing Shutarou as a vampire. I hope Suwa and Ayame find happiness together. While Maeda was out here just killing every vampire he sees. Really looking forward to the finale. |
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| A showdown between Maede and Kurusu? Let's go. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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Anime4Me0226 said: Pre_Yum said: Rufus is really playing his cards well by taking advantage of those Vampire Units like that and dealing with all the vampires on his own. But, he made a mistake, he's thinking too much of himself and calling himself 'the king of vampires'. That type of mentality takes people down. He thought he killed Defrott but nope, he's still alive. Aoi loves Kurusu and he loves her as well. But, she thinks a vampire and a human cannot be together. She wants to be with him but can't accept the fact he's a vampire. For now, when she realized what she's missing, she started chasing Kurusu. I hope she makes it there in time. Defrott playing his mind games with Rufus was too much for him to bear and I think he drowned there. LOL. Suwa got himself a girl as well. That's nice. Maeda and Kurusu are going to have a final showdown in the last episode. Unless I'm off base here Kurusu is Aoi's brother and she wants to be with him not as lovers but as family. Same with Suwa I thought the girl who's name escapes me was his sister not love interest. I have not researched yet if this has a manga but if it does I will most certainly read it to find out which of us is correct. I do know it was a stage reading but not sure if it was made into a manga as of yet. Lastly the part with Maeda and Kurusu showdown throws me as to why they would since they were teammates. I guess I will go rewatch the series to see what I missed about their turning against each other. I went back and rewatched previous episodes and.... YUP... you're right. It really didn't go through my mind. I for some reason forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me. LOL Don't know where my brain went while writing this. |
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| It felt like there was an episode missing between 11 and 12, several plot points suddenly happening or resolved with no explanation. Like why is Ayame working with Rufus? Throughout this series I feel that the premise is really strong, and I like the music and animation style, but it has often been wasted by poor storytelling. Tempted to red the manga to see if that tells the story better. |
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Pre_Yum said: Anime4Me0226 said: Unless I'm off base here Kurusu is Aoi's brother and she wants to be with him not as lovers but as family. Same with Suwa I thought the girl who's name escapes me was his sister not love interest. I have not researched yet if this has a manga but if it does I will most certainly read it to find out which of us is correct. I do know it was a stage reading but not sure if it was made into a manga as of yet. Lastly the part with Maeda and Kurusu showdown throws me as to why they would since they were teammates. I guess I will go rewatch the series to see what I missed about their turning against each other. I went back and rewatched previous episodes and.... YUP... you're right. It really didn't go through my mind. I for some reason forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me. LOL Don't know where my brain went while writing this. They're not brothers though... it's just that Kurusu was living at Aoi's place (I assume after his parents' death since they're not mentioned) - but they're just childhood friends. Their relationship is up to your interpretation but there's so much romantic subtext that you shouldn't ignore. Aoi even tells Kurusu that he shouldn't be embarassed by people that were assuming that they were engaged. Defrott calls them Romeo and Juliet and they work as a perfect parallel/contrast to Maeda and Misaki - and I'm sure that it will be made even more clear in the next episode. As to why Maeda is an enemy: it should be obvious that he's not conscious and he's acting driven by his own instincts. And his istincts are telling him that he needs to kill all the vampires (maybe to protect Misaki?). So basically he's a threat for Takeuichi and all the other vampires that can't leave the country because of him. It shouldn't surprise us because it has already happened with Misaki. The reason could be either Defrott's blood (too toxic for them to handle) or the fact that they were turned when they were already dying but it doesn't matter. |
zVergil said: Pre_Yum said: I went back and rewatched previous episodes and.... YUP... you're right. It really didn't go through my mind. I for some reason forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me. LOL Don't know where my brain went while writing this. They're not brothers though... it's just that Kurusu was living at Aoi's place (I assume after his parents' death since they're not mentioned) - but they're just childhood friends. Their relationship is up to your interpretation but there's so much romantic subtext that you shouldn't ignore. Aoi even tells Kurusu that he shouldn't be embarassed by people that were assuming that they were engaged. Defrott calls them Romeo and Juliet and they work as a perfect parallel/contrast to Maeda and Misaki - and I'm sure that it will be made even more clear in the next episode. As to why Maeda is an enemy: it should be obvious that he's not conscious and he's acting driven by his own instincts. And his istincts are telling him that he needs to kill all the vampires (maybe to protect Misaki?). So basically he's a threat for Takeuichi and all the other vampires that can't leave the country because of him. It shouldn't surprise us because it has already happened with Misaki. The reason could be either Defrott's blood (too toxic for them to handle) or the fact that they were turned when they were already dying but it doesn't matter. Now I'm fuckin' more confused... My brain hurts... AHH!!! LOL |
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Pre_Yum said: zVergil said: They're not brothers though... it's just that Kurusu was living at Aoi's place (I assume after his parents' death since they're not mentioned) - but they're just childhood friends. Their relationship is up to your interpretation but there's so much romantic subtext that you shouldn't ignore. Aoi even tells Kurusu that he shouldn't be embarassed by people that were assuming that they were engaged. Defrott calls them Romeo and Juliet and they work as a perfect parallel/contrast to Maeda and Misaki - and I'm sure that it will be made even more clear in the next episode. As to why Maeda is an enemy: it should be obvious that he's not conscious and he's acting driven by his own instincts. And his istincts are telling him that he needs to kill all the vampires (maybe to protect Misaki?). So basically he's a threat for Takeuichi and all the other vampires that can't leave the country because of him. It shouldn't surprise us because it has already happened with Misaki. The reason could be either Defrott's blood (too toxic for them to handle) or the fact that they were turned when they were already dying but it doesn't matter. Now I'm fuckin' more confused... My brain hurts... AHH!!! LOL Hahahahahah, by what? The fact that they're childhood friends is mentioned multiple times by Aoi in episode 2, while the fact that they Kurusu was a freeloader at Aoi's place is explaned in episode 7. In fact, he joined the military in order to become more independent without taking advantage of her family's generosity |
zVergil said: Hahahahahah, by what? The fact that they're childhood friends is mentioned multiple times by Aoi in episode 2, while the fact that they Kurusu was a freeloader at Aoi's place is explaned in episode 7. In fact, he joined the military in order to become more independent without taking advantage of her family's generosity I get what you're saying but now I'm confused, does she like Kurusu? Because, how I'm seeing this, she's definitely interested in him, or am I thinking it too far? Relationships in shows really mess me up more or less. I can't put my finger on one thing. |
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Pre_Yum said: zVergil said: Hahahahahah, by what? The fact that they're childhood friends is mentioned multiple times by Aoi in episode 2, while the fact that they Kurusu was a freeloader at Aoi's place is explaned in episode 7. In fact, he joined the military in order to become more independent without taking advantage of her family's generosity I get what you're saying but now I'm confused, does she like Kurusu? Because, how I'm seeing this, she's definitely interested in him, or am I thinking it too far? Relationships in shows really mess me up more or less. I can't put my finger on one thing. You're not thinking it too far! In my opinion, it's pretty obvious that they like each other but I wouldn't argue against people that think that they're just friends. There are lots of hints regarding a possible romantic interest though. I just wanted to make it clear that they're not brothers lol! I suggest giving the manga a try, chapters 1-4 make their thoughts and backstory clear, while not giving any kind of spoilers for the show (which did a great job in my opinion but whatever!). |
zVergil said: Pre_Yum said: I get what you're saying but now I'm confused, does she like Kurusu? Because, how I'm seeing this, she's definitely interested in him, or am I thinking it too far? Relationships in shows really mess me up more or less. I can't put my finger on one thing. You're not thinking it too far! In my opinion, it's pretty obvious that they like each other but I wouldn't argue against people that think that they're just friends. There are lots of hints regarding a possible romantic interest though. I just wanted to make it clear that they're not brothers lol! I suggest giving the manga a try, chapters 1-4 make their thoughts and backstory clear, while not giving any kind of spoilers for the show (which did a great job in my opinion but whatever!). I knew about Kurusu and Aoi being friends and possibly a love interest but I wasn't sure about Suwa and that girl. And, yeah I think I'll just go ahead and read the manga for any possible confusions. But thanks, dude. :) |
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MenchiK1 said: Jaces_Sanctum said: Am I the only one who felt kind of lost this episode? I felt like I'd somehow missed out on several large chunks of story. No it's frustratingly incoherent and gets worse with each episode, I seriously have no clue what is going on. This show sucks. Feel free to tell me your doubts here or in private, I'll try to answer as soon as I can. The fact that things are not explicitly stated but just hinted doesn't mean that it's incoherent. Everyone on Reddit predicted the outcome, I can't see a single bit of incoherence? I'd be happy to discuss this :) |
| I legit have no idea what's going on anymore. I had to check if I just skipped an episode but apparently, I didn't. |
| I agree, this episode feels like there were massive story points omitted. The pacing feels so off and I have no idea what happened with Rufus and Defrot at the end or what the little girl traitor subplot (not to mention the oranges thing) was about. Plus ever since Maeda has become a vampire we've seen him like twice and his only line has basically been "I will kill vampires". Like wtf is that? |
MenchiK1 said: zVergil said: Feel free to tell me your doubts here or in private, I'll try to answer as soon as I can. The fact that things are not explicitly stated but just hinted doesn't mean that it's incoherent. Everyone on Reddit predicted the outcome, I can't see a single bit of incoherence? I'd be happy to discuss this :) I shouldn't have to need someone to explain it to me, I watched and paid attention to every episode, I shouldn't need any help. Well, if other people understood everything maybe you didn't pay enough attention like you think you did - and that's totally okay lol. Don't know what to say, at least I tried. |
| romance developed very fast, the good guy turned evil for no apparent reasons and the generic villain died in an unmemorable, though not so bad way. disappointing episode. |
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| The story flow between each episode is absolutely atrocious. This episode took the cake though. It feels like they're skipping "episodes" just to get to the good stuff and because of this it's casing a sense of disconnect and confusion (as seen above by others). |
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| I'm loving this right now, everyone was great. I like Rufus and the way he wore his hat, I like the way he slowly realized he wasn't as important as he thought he was, I thought his death was a little rushed but him going slightly crazy was cool. I loved Shuutarou and Maeda (Maeda looks so damn cool) and I really wanna see them fight. I'm sure Aoi will break the fight up, I really wanna see her with Shuutarou again too. Oh yeah I thought I skipped an episode or something but nope that's just how it is. I feel like this show would be incredible if they got the time to do everything. Some of the scenes looked crappy this time around too. For some reason this is fantastic in my opinion (even if it is a little bad), can't wait for the finale. |
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| Felt like I skipped an episode by mistake so I went back to check the previous episode and turns out I didn't. What's going on here!? |
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| I liked what I was shown, but I wish I could have loved it. It isn't particularly difficult to figure out the puzzle's missing pieces a few minutes in. What was most jarring was the opening's assault of the vampire units, set to winter itself, yet without the proper action choreography and character animation to justify its beauty. I don't know whether an additional year, twice the staff, and ten times the budget would have given us a better depiction of these events, but despite how much I've come to love Mars Red for its story and characters, its technical aspects have long since left me wanting. At the very least I am greatful for the two beautiful scenes we did have, one with the oldest vampire, and the other with the youngest. Only the finale remains. I wonder whether it'll rhyme with the beggining. |
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| What was that? I had to go back to check if I skipped episode 11 or something but it's the freakin' anime itself that skipped... At least show something like “Two or Three months later” The translators should've put the “Several moments later” Spongebob meme at the beginning then we wouldn't be this confused. |
| Goodbye Danny boy, you won't be missed lol |
| Satisfying to see the manipulative Rufus die by Defrott using his specialty: trickery. |
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