Hige wo Soru. Soshite Joshikousei wo Hirou. Episode 5 Discussion

Syureria said:

What the heck is that guy? Ugly Bastard has comeeee??? Isn't that the guy same bed with Sayu in the episode 3?

Kaiseki said:
Finally Gotou met Sayu, and I thought Sayu was kinda selfish.

Mishima is very jealous of Gotou. And I was curious about the guy who worked in the supermarket...

Criticiza said:
Decent bonding session between the ladies, felt the animation was kinda lacklustre this episode and I'm not speaking about it being conversation heavy, more so the movement felt kinda unnatural. Anyways, it was decent how they animated it and that end scene does do well to add a negative premonition

Arcay said:

I'm not quite sure, but I fell like the guy in the supermarket is one of those guys who already banged Sayu.

KyleRiley said:
Don't know how anyone watched this episode and still don't trust Gotou but are not saying anything about Mishima.

Defracted said:
I think this episode was a HUGE reality check for Sayu. Even though they talked about her moving back home before, I feel like she never took it seriously. His close friends may think it’s cool for Yoshida to look after her since they know his character, however, if this ever comes to light society will throw him under the bus since objectively Sayu living with him is weird.

Regarding Gotou, I feel like the audience needs to know a better reason why Yoshida likes her because it seems so artificial. Like his coworker said(forgot her name), Yoshida love for Gotou does not seem real. The reason I say this is I want a good reason for Yoshida to like Gotou(besides her body) because I don’t want him to fall for Sayu at any costs. Nevertheless, this episode did make me like Gotou a bit more.

The random dude at the end will probably try something with Sayu since it seems that he knows her. What a weirdo.

Gab5 said:
I hope this episode will shut up some of the people showing the Gotou hate. Everything she said was true and she was the one being honest. People still saying they don't trust her, there's no satisfying some people. She has no reason to be trying to trick anyone. The idea that she up to something is just dumb. She's smarter than Yoshida and could find a guy as good or better than him easily.

Sayu and Yoshida, especially, are just lying all over the place. Yoshida still going with the story that he knew her as a child and she came to him for help. At least Sayu came clean, kind of, at the end and told her some things, but she wasn't being totally honest either. When Gotou asked her whether she would support her and Yoshida being together, she totally lied. and it is an important lie as well, when you live in the guys house and you are talking to someone who says they like the same guy.

Mishima really is a stalker, although she makes some good points. I don't particularly think Yoshida is such a nice guy that he is risking the relationship he wants for Sayu. Everything he has done up to this point, all his noble morals, is starting to look rather dubious. He seems to need his work colleagues, both female, to have to tell him obvious stuff. And, yet, he still thinks he is right all the time and sticks to his dumb plan, even after others have pointed out the risks. Asami, Mishima and Gotou have all pointed it out to him but this know it all thinks that he knows everything. He's starting to look like a hypocrite. When Gotou asked if it was a boy or a girl staying with him, he was embarrassed. Kind of weird isn't it? It is as if he knows what he is doing is wrong but he doesn't want to stop doing it and he thinks that he is somehow above the law and smarter than everyone else.

For all the comments about people being suspicious, Sayu and Yoshida are the most suspicious of all. Mishima following people home is kind of weird as well. Is that normal in Japan? People just brush it off and then talk about their personal life with the stalker?

Gab5 said:


some people are going to stick with that, no matter what, because it is easier than admitting that their dumb prejudices were totally wrong. They just don't like the idea of seeing a woman who is not falling apart whenever the MC speaks. The fact that she is smarter than him kind of annoys people. This nonsense that she is 'up to something' is just plain stupid. What does she gain from trying to trick anyone in this show? She's already above all of them.

Mishima, on the other hand, is shown to be hanging on every word that the MC says, so no one cares that she is stalking him. If only she put so much effort into her work.

ImmortalZero said:


Wow are you some mind reader that you can read why people don't like Gotou? Of course not! Who made you so high and mighty saying other peoples thoughts are dumb & stupid? Can't you just accept that people have different thoughts regarding things like how some people like Mishima and you don't.

If you ask me Gotou is the bigger stalker since she's been marking Yoshida "SINCE HE ENTERED THE COMPANY" while Mishima just started recently.

>What does she gain from trying to trick anyone in this show?
I know right? She tricked Yoshida by saying she has a boyfriend and what did she gain? Nothing...

nightcrawlercyp said:
Great episode but so hard to watch. Gotou is such an evil manipulative despicable woman. She acts all nice but just wants to get rid of Sayu she sees as competition. Also is annoying how she acts like she owns Yoshida's place and like she knows jack shit about life just because she is an old hag. Women never mature past highschool unless they have to go through real hardship by themselves. Seeing how fake she is makes me mad. Also I am sad for Mishima because she thinks Gotou and Yoshida are now a couple. And the way she says she loves him, is not how a woman who is in love talks about the subject of her affection. Is total bs. That bitch Gotou deserves to die alone and in total misery. Mishima is such a good person! And the makeup stuff, unless you have a deformity or old like Gotou as a woman you look better without. And that 'oh I am so cute' fake laugh is annoying.

How is she smarter than Yoshida? I doubt that
Can she get any guy? She is pretty old, I doubt that also
About her not being evil... when you go to someone else' place act like you own the place and give damaging advice to its ward you are not a good person

Gab5 said:
I hope this episode will shut up some of the people showing the Gotou hate. Everything she said was true and she was the one being honest. People still saying they don't trust her, there's no satisfying some people. She has no reason to be trying to trick anyone. The idea that she up to something is just dumb. She's smarter than Yoshida and could find a guy as good or better than him easily.

Sayu and Yoshida, especially, are just lying all over the place. Yoshida still going with the story that he knew her as a child and she came to him for help. At least Sayu came clean, kind of, at the end and told her some things, but she wasn't being totally honest either. When Gotou asked her whether she would support her and Yoshida being together, she totally lied. and it is an important lie as well, when you live in the guys house and you are talking to someone who says they like the same guy.

Mishima really is a stalker, although she makes some good points. I don't particularly think Yoshida is such a nice guy that he is risking the relationship he wants for Sayu. Everything he has done up to this point, all his noble morals, is starting to look rather dubious. He seems to need his work colleagues, both female, to have to tell him obvious stuff. And, yet, he still thinks he is right all the time and sticks to his dumb plan, even after others have pointed out the risks. Asami, Mishima and Gotou have all pointed it out to him but this know it all thinks that he knows everything. He's starting to look like a hypocrite. When Gotou asked if it was a boy or a girl staying with him, he was embarrassed. Kind of weird isn't it? It is as if he knows what he is doing is wrong but he doesn't want to stop doing it and he thinks that he is somehow above the law and smarter than everyone else.

For all the comments about people being suspicious, Sayu and Yoshida are the most suspicious of all. Mishima following people home is kind of weird as well. Is that normal in Japan? People just brush it off and then talk about their personal life with the stalker?

Kakuja21 said:


Agreed with everything. People will always try to find something to bitch about Gotou, and last weeks comments were filled with edgelords jumping to conclusions wanting her dead and to disappear. But it's funny how Sayu and Mishima are always free of criticism for the reasons you mentioned. If people weren't so biased, maybe we would have more open-minded discussions. It's ok to have doubts at first, but the hate was ridiculous.

I feel the more the series progresses the more i will start disliking it. It's obvious what route this is heading and it's trying too hard to show the opposite like how Yoshida's friend warned him about falling for a high-schooler and him denying it. As you said, he is starting to look like a hypocrite and who only like's Gotou's body. Same with Gotou and Mishima warning him. A show that would make a great platonic relationship between these two is probably gonna end up being the usual "main characters living together and slowly falling for each other" cliche because authors can't write anything that doesn't follow the same formula. It's not much about the age gap, but how predictable and tiring these stories are getting.

SchalasPendant said:


Thank you! She started in wrong by lying to him, but I don't think she should get all the hate she deserved, especially after this episode. I really liked this episode, I liked the dynamics between Gotou and Sayu, she needs a different perspective on the situation, I really hope they go with Yoshida and Gotou together and being sort like parentes figure for Sayu and help her with her past traumas, and without any plot twists, like making Gotou "an evil bitch" or something.

That being said, I hated the guy in Supermarket, he gave such creep vibes and it looks like he will make Sayu's life hell, as he is seen in another episode in bed with her.

At first, I was rooting more for Mishima than for Gotou, but her whole stalker thing and the way she delivers her (although reasonable) points just makes me starting to dislike her more. I can't give my veredict yet, but I hope she changes too.

Gab5 said:


That's absolute nonsense but seeing as you bothered, I will answer once.

You like people who follow you home and watch while you eat with someone else? Good for you.

Watching someone at work is the same as following them in public? You kidding me? Stupid argument.

Gab5 said:

She tricked him? She rejected him because she didn't think he was serious. Is that unreasonable to you? I suppose you would be the type who would just be staring at her tits and then wonder why the other person said no.

Gab5 said:

Now compare that with the lying that everyone else is doing while Yoshida is putting up a youngster........... He couldn't even bring himself to admit that he had a girl in his flat. Why does he keep lying about how they know each other? The cops wouldn't be interested in someone saying they had a boyfriend when they didn't. They would be interested in someone keeping a young girl in their place in secret. If that's your style, go knock yourself out.

Gab5 said:

and, yes, I think your thoughts don't make any logical sense and are not coming from anything that has been shown, just dumb head canon. The reason she said about the boyfriend has been dealt with and is understandable, she explained herself. The one lying is Yoshida.