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May 1, 2021 2:31 PM

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I haven't read the manga, but going by the comments here I must say, WTF CLOVERWORKS!! This was one of the best studios in my eyes till last season, where they rushed through 2 highly anticipated shows, and it's happening to Shadow's House right now as well? If you don't want to make multiple seasons, just make one and leave room open for another one for other studios to pick it up. These guys are crushing authors' dreams here.
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May 1, 2021 2:51 PM
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BaronBrixius said:
Uh, what exactly is wrong with this episode? It was by far my favorite one so far


so basically they cut out a very important character to the story in later chapter they focus on this character for like about half the manga which ads more lore and mystery to it. Hopefully this character will show up soon but like WHY DID THEY DO THIS AGAIN IM PRAYING IT DOESN'T END UP LIKE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION SEASON 2 OF TPN
May 1, 2021 3:05 PM

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Great episode, if they skipped a scene that may be really relevant in season two, it probably means there won't be a season 2 and the series is like most, an advertisement for the manga.
So manga readers feel free to not clog up the discussion with vague angry comments that can lead to spoilers and ruin the anime discussion for anime only watchers.
Also as someone who has watched disappointing adaptations of manga I like too, it's okay to be disappointed, if you're shaking with anger than maybe ya need to chill out, that's not normal.
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May 1, 2021 3:16 PM

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or they don't plan on making season 2, but that doesn't excuse not having robe since it's only this episode that will have in effect and won't be brought up until the reveal.


I was under the impression that "being only in this episode and not being brought up again until the reveal" (which won't happen in the anime because there is no way they will reach that point with the current pacing) is precisely the reason they were removed.


well then I guess people look at this in 2 ways: either its not a big deal since this may as well not get s2 and won't affect the plot regardless, or it loses a lot of foreshadowing when this ever gets to s2 and be sloppy as promised neverland s2.

of course I'm on the latter, cause I simply wish this gets s2. I mean like. c'mon, nobody would be mad at going exactly how the manga went even if no plan on s2, why cut there of all things?
May 1, 2021 3:25 PM

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Man, this mansion is even more beautiful at night, beautifully creepy,
May 1, 2021 3:38 PM

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The episode starts with Barbara investigate the phanthom incident. And introduces Shaun, Ricky and Ram. The second half is about Emilico, Ram and Shaun being the ones doing the night patrol to derermine where is the phanthom soot originate.

This episode has some weird choices of some scenes this episode like the veiled doll appearing. Overall the episode is good build up, for debut next episode


May 1, 2021 3:47 PM

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I am anime only for this one so nothing really seemed out of the ordinary. There are just still so many unanswered things and I feel like tha actual main plot haven't even been setup yet. It's been just world building so far.

But if this really gets the TPN S2 treatment right out of the bat that's just sad. (since they cut someone important already apparently....) Anyway, if it ends up as a disaster I will just read the manga then. lol
May 1, 2021 4:01 PM

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Lumpology said:
OMG you guys there was one scene change ONE, its way to early to jump to conclusions. Cloverworks is an excellent studio, stop jumping to early conclusions. It's episode 4 for goodness sake.


isn't this what they said back when tpn s2 was airing lol
May 1, 2021 4:18 PM

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That's an interesting deviation from the comic.
Will future anime original scenes patch things up or will the story simply diverge from the original? I can't wait to find out.
May 1, 2021 4:38 PM
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Eposodio more focused on Shaun, the scenes were really cool.
May 1, 2021 5:31 PM
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I'm a manga reader and I think episode 4 is amazing :D I love it, even tho they cut the most important scene, but I think it's still good. 10/10 for me :) Thank you for your hard work, Cloverworks' Staffs and Somato sensei, also the production team for making this beautiful anime so far.. Although
it may be possible there have more changes or they're going to have anime original.. I'm still appreciate it. At least I can see my favourite manga have an anime adaptation and my fav characters have their own voices (hahaha). I'm looking forward to the next episode, "Debut"!
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May 1, 2021 6:04 PM

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I would like to give it the full season to see where it goes.
Yeah it cut out a character, that doesn't mean it's a bad series, it's still enjoyable and building the suspense and the world. People on MAL are overreacting like people on twitter, without even watching the whole thing finish.
Let's just wait and see where it goes.

That said, this was a great episode, very suspenseful, they built the characters like Shaun and Rum alongwith Emilico and how she gets along with everyone. Waiting to see where the story goes exactly, it's really good so far. Hope the quality stays this way.
May 1, 2021 6:25 PM
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I am glad we are finally getting some "scary" stuff happening lol
I am waiting for a big twist hopefully
May 1, 2021 6:34 PM
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Emilico and the others better be comin' at Barbie next episode for blaming someone innocent
May 1, 2021 6:37 PM
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aryandil said:
Lumpology said:
OMG you guys there was one scene change ONE, its way to early to jump to conclusions. Cloverworks is an excellent studio, stop jumping to early conclusions. It's episode 4 for goodness sake.


isn't this what they said back when tpn s2 was airing lol


the shows dont even have the same director it does not matter
May 1, 2021 7:06 PM
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I'm loving this anime so much, but i'm kinda scared now because of the comments... I hope it doesn't end in another TPN S2 ;;
May 1, 2021 7:27 PM

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Oh~ so I must read the manga to catch up why some people are furious.
I understand that feeling when the adaptation suddenly took a wrong turn from its manga/LN version.

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May 1, 2021 8:17 PM
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After seeing recent episode of Shadows House, I'm convinced studio cloverworks should never be allowed to produce an anime adaptation again
May 1, 2021 9:08 PM

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I just read that they removed a character, I don't know how much it affects the story but I think everyone prefers works that are faithful to the original, or at least without removing characters.

Anyway, my perspective remains the same, being a supernatural themed anime and slice of life, I am seeing very little of this.

We will see if it improves or worsens as it already happened in TPN, although I like that there are finally more characters

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May 1, 2021 10:09 PM

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that was a good ep minus something really important they cut out lmfao. good points first, animation quality is still consistent so thats good, voice actors and sounds are also nice, i think another va might suit ricky better and im still getting used to shaun's (bc i didnt expect them to sound like this lol) but they still work. now to the thing they cut out, its really important to the plot so im kind of worried now. im just hoping that they'll replace it with something else ? bc i cant imagine it getting cut out with no reaction in the plot.
May 2, 2021 12:57 AM

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i read a lot of complaints about cloverworks skipped a lot of parts. should I just drop this and read the manga? well actually i've been planning to read the manga but I dont have the motivation to do so
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May 2, 2021 1:37 AM
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dtrfs said:
i read a lot of complaints about cloverworks skipped a lot of parts. should I just drop this and read the manga? well actually i've been planning to read the manga but I dont have the motivation to do so


nope, just watch it. as manga reader, I think its a good adaptation. The author already said earlier today on twitter that they have to change/cut some stuff to end s1 nicely or something. but if they got s2, they will figure things out to reconnect the story.
May 2, 2021 2:39 AM
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4 episodes in, people already worried about the skipped content. Oh well if its the truth then, i can't say much about that rather than saying a condolence. Also, the veiled doll revelations also a little caught off my guard, ngl. Ah, okay.

Anyway, left aside 'the missing part', they really did a well done job with the direction of the cooperation between those new night watcher team. New doll introduced with their unique personality. Shaun and Rum, eh? Their sudden interaction really needed to progressed the story telling. Emilico once again bring the mood to the whole new level. Sharing food, giving motivation, cheering them all, even relaxing the shy and weak one. All of them for the sake of solving the previous phantom mayhem issue that somehow got blamed to them by a brutal Barbie. Congratulations.

However, its not very good for Emilico inner life as a living doll, when its come up to the Kate side, especially when she worried much for the incoming debut. Oh well, lets see how good the thing in the later episode.
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May 2, 2021 4:40 AM

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Great episode! Barbie is a bitch damn, but I guess she's just doing her job and making sure everything is in order, but she do be mean about it. That was very smooth of Shaun to defend Emilico in his own way, while Ricky is a suck up. With that though, we have finally meet all the main characters I assume based on the OP and ED.

Seeing Rum talk to her finger is really depressing. Also sad for Kate cause she's not having much time with Emilico. Really looking forward to the debut.
May 2, 2021 4:52 AM

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I thought were gonna have the grand debut this episode but we just got a quest episode which I'm not really mad about but i really can't wait to meet more shadows
Also emilico is really sweet and also very naive and i doubt she'll be able to stay that way cause it's a tough word
May 2, 2021 5:38 AM
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dtrfs said:
i read a lot of complaints about cloverworks skipped a lot of parts. should I just drop this and read the manga? well actually i've been planning to read the manga but I dont have the motivation to do so


Still continue to watch it, the omitted content are not relevant to the debut arc but is relevant if the show got a second season. So basically, worry for the second season (if it gets one).
May 2, 2021 5:56 AM

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Every episode that goes by, this show gets more and more heavy-handed in some of its aspects and it's honestly so distracting: in this case, Barbie's treatment of the other living dolls was excessive and over-the-top and that was clearly to make another obvious point about this situation. Logically speaking, some of the dolls will lag behind the others in certain ways and it feels like highlighting that here gets us a little bit closer to understand the true implications of failing the Debut.

Veiled Dolls, huh. Wonder what the story is with them, given they can't speak and have their faces concealed; given that the living dolls are meant to be Faces for the Shadows family, my best guess now is that they become Veiled if they fail the Debut, rather than just being discarded. After all, they have to keep the living dolls fed so they can fulfill their duties, and they need some form of staff to handle that and keep them out of the kitchen and away from "trivial matters".

Yeah, no surprise that there's booby traps in place to keep them from escaping the House. That just makes it all the more obvious what's really going on here, as if it wasn't overt enough already.
May 2, 2021 6:09 AM

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it was so wholesome Emilico supported Rum and not to get so down!
looks like there's a lot of internal conflicts huh...and others bad attitude!
4/5.


May 2, 2021 6:56 AM
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RMTWASHERE said:
COME ON GUYS, DON'T START COMPLAINING YET. I'm a manga reader myself BTW. LET'S SEE WHAT WE GOT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE. IF THEY REALLY CUT ............. THE STORY GONNA BE WEIRD AND MEANINGLESS. PLUS WE STILL HAVE THE BROKEN COFFE THINGY ON THE ED AND OP. we still got hope. THEY MIGHT JUST REARRANGE SOME EVENT TO MAKE CUT THE EPISODE NICELY.

I’ve lost all my trust when it comes to this studio. I said the same thing for TPN2 with Yuugo waiting patiently telling my friends every episode something big will happen, and he never showed.
May 2, 2021 6:56 AM
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RMTWASHERE said:
COME ON GUYS, DON'T START COMPLAINING YET. I'm a manga reader myself BTW. LET'S SEE WHAT WE GOT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE. IF THEY REALLY CUT ............. THE STORY GONNA BE WEIRD AND MEANINGLESS. PLUS WE STILL HAVE THE BROKEN COFFE THINGY ON THE ED AND OP. we still got hope. THEY MIGHT JUST REARRANGE SOME EVENT TO MAKE CUT THE EPISODE NICELY.

I’ve lost all my trust when it comes to this studio. I said the same thing for TPN2 with Yuugo waiting patiently telling my friends every episode something big will happen, and he never showed.
May 2, 2021 7:34 AM

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emilico probably the best cute , adorable and good little girl !!
May 2, 2021 10:11 AM

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This episode was fine, but not as good as the previous one. The Scooby Gang of misfits solved the phantom problem and we learned more about how there are traps keeping the “dolls” from leaving. Emilico’s loud and overly cheery mood still annoys me a bit, but it’s an important part of her character.
May 2, 2021 11:13 AM
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This is actually the new shows who had the most interesting plot out of all original anime adaptation of this season! I feel ashame of myself, didn't discover this earlier

Sure, they are still some flaw here and there. Like the score that feels weak and contributing very little to elevate the moment. The pacing that feel too fast, it make some good interaction just flashed by like it was nothing. And too much use of darkness that make some scene hard to understands. But they are no mere than just a technical issue

But the premises, the tone, the character design, the voice actor, the world, and the fu*king slappin ED (who i think the best of the season) It outshine the rest of the original adaptation on this list!

For comparation:
Fumetsu no Anata had a great moment and a solid first episodes. But the problem is.. on the first third episodes they are still troubled try to grabbing their narration. It feels like the story progress just jumping from one random occasion to another and still don't have any exact point to moving forward

Ijirenaide Nagatoro-Senpai is a mess. The transition beetwen their famous first episodes and the current three feels disjointed. And honestly, if the rest of the shows continue to be just a regular rom-com sketch like that, they will lost their sparks. (The same with Higehiro)

Tokyo Ravengers still have nothing special on it. Their plot is something that i have already seen in many other adaptation such as Eraser, Re:life or even a bad Hollywood movie such as Butterfly Effect. I still waiting what they would do with it. But if the story still have nothing special on it, i don't see any reason why i should watch a cartoon about time traveler when i can easily watch a ton of live action, who already bored me with that topic

Vivy or 86 have some great action and great premises on it. But their character development still feel weak and all over the places. It simply makes you hard to be invested on the character nor the world surrounding them

Eden Zero, Slime300,Full Dive RPG and Sentouin... feels like a lesser almost a bad copy of the more famous works before them

So yeah, thank God! this season been blessed with Shadows House!
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May 2, 2021 1:19 PM
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Pleb manga readers crying again, PepeLaugh.
May 2, 2021 2:05 PM
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That Ricky doll was annoying. Acting like a true simp
May 2, 2021 2:41 PM
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does anyone have an irrational hatred for emilico? she's so incredibly naive and it's gotten to the point where I want to reach through the screen and bitch slap her
May 2, 2021 7:27 PM

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Yay... the expected scummy kids are finally here. Barbie the bitch and dick-sucker #1 Ricky.

Anyways, still a nice episode overall. Shaun is a bro but Rum is so hopeless I can't feel anything towards her yet. The scene with her talking to her finger as way to keep her mind stable was kinda sad tho.

And as for Emilico, it's okay to be cheerful and all but man, I wish she could be less naive and more aware of the situation she's in. I mean, she's practically a slave and almost died because of a trap that prevents other Living Dolls from leaving/escaping the damn house.
May 2, 2021 11:00 PM

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The introduction of more annoying characters is very exciting!!!

I've heard a lot of complaints about CloverWorks skipping manga events again. Gladly I didn't read the manga, so I found this episode very enjoyable. I might have to read the manga soon tho.

May 2, 2021 11:46 PM
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Yay... the expected scummy kids are finally here. Barbie the bitch and dick-sucker #1 Ricky.

Anyways, still a nice episode overall. Shaun is a bro but Rum is so hopeless I can't feel anything towards her yet. The scene with her talking to her finger as way to keep her mind stable was kinda sad tho.

And as for Emilico, it's okay to be cheerful and all but man, I wish she could be less naive and more aware of the situation she's in. I mean, she's practically a slave and almost died because of a trap that prevents other Living Dolls from leaving/escaping the damn house.


don't worry, they will change in the future. i don't even remember ricky was such an asshole back in the day.
May 3, 2021 12:42 AM
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Rum the cutest, Barbie the BITCH
May 3, 2021 5:49 AM

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Did she just dive for the freaking revolving door? LMAO
May 3, 2021 6:18 PM
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I'm literally shaking and gritting my teeth right now, congratulations cloverworks, you've done it again



at what??? how can you even like this anime?
May 4, 2021 6:14 AM
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This show is really growing on me, it just gets better and better.
May 4, 2021 6:37 AM

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I really loved this episode. I got so nervous when Shaun and Emilico were going into the hallway. Speaking of Shaun, I really like him, a very good character in my opinion.

I see many people complaining but as someone who hasn't read the manga, the story is going very well. You gotta understand manga and anime are two different forms of art. Anime adaptions are never exactly like the manga.
May 5, 2021 7:56 AM

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Shaun and Emilico were in a similar situation as Norman and Emma. Can't wait for them to get another step closer to the truth.

Looks like other shadow masters are not as friendly as Kate is with her human doll.

After learning from the manga readers that they changed one scene in the anime, now I feel like it's better to just be anime onlys for cloverworks anime. I already regret watching Yakusoku no Neverland S2...
May 6, 2021 8:39 AM

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Well it happens with alot of animes with switching/removing scenes so just read the manga when this season is over with. also Shaun and Emilco were so cuteee <3
May 6, 2021 3:24 PM
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Im anime only and I love this episode. Sean and Rum need to be protected. Same goes with Emilico. Also I'm I the only one that put 2 and 2 togther, the head doll's name is Barbie. I see what the creater did there.
May 7, 2021 4:07 PM

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I’m getting the feeling that this anime is rubbing a lot of manga readers the wrong way and as someone who hasn’t read the manga I dunno I liked this episode, might even be my favorite so far. I just can’t wait to see where this show goes


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May 8, 2021 3:55 PM

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Kate wasn't to happy that her love doll didn't have time for their "study" session

I dont think there were much study going on there. I rather think they have lesbian kissing sessions,,,YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

Emilico was so cute and kind to Ram and really seems to like her. She should invite Ram to join her and Kates study/lesbian kissing sessions,,,,YEEEEEEEEEEEEEES





May 9, 2021 2:26 PM
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Shadow house slowly but surely becomes my favorite anime of this season. I didn't read a manga, so I can't say how much stuff was changed, but episode itself was good. I want to see this show until the end before judging it

5/5 episode.
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