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| Imagine being the guy responsible to carefully animate 10 minutes of gore... while the dude on the next booth got to blissfully draw erotic loli bodies in swimsuits. |
| Actually, this is too much, even for Higurashi standards. I don’t think that putting so much disturbing violence in one episode was a really effective way to make the viewers sympathize with Rika. I haven’t felt anything when Rika cried in the end of the episode because this moment lacks psychologism, which was very important part of the original Higurashi. The original anime isn’t just about gore, violence and suffering: it’s more about the characters and their personal tragedies. The new one looks very opposite: the autors try to shock their viewers with the demonstration of many disturbing scenes. Unfortunately, it almost kills the strong emotional point of Rika’s fate. She looks like a victim in the very bad circumstances but she is the person, who’s definitely guilty for her own fate. This is the reason why I can’t emotionally connect with her story: I’m glad that she’s got out of the circle of suffering but I don’t care about her reflections about mistakes in the past, which should have been a very important moment of character’s development for Rika. I can’t say I hate this episode, but it shows me that this series have had much more potential than just a mix of the straightforward horror and lighthearted slice of life, which is trying to look more complex than it already is. P.S. The cliffhanger in the end looks promising. I’m very interested to see what Takano is going to tell Rika in the next episode. |
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SparkleDuck said: do you expect people not to like the higu animes? not sure why besides OVAs. Especially when the Deen animes are heavily shilled by anitubers Yup, after reading the VNs and the manga, DEEN anime gets unbearable to watch with all those inconsistencies. For example the flashback of K1 dying with a doll in his hand this episode is the correct one since DEEN version doesn't even have the doll in it lmao. Only thing deen did good was the gore part, other than that they butchered everything else |
UnderminEJan 21, 2021 9:34 PM
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| HOLY SHIT, THAT WAS GROSS. THEY JUST KEPT GOING AND GOING AND GOING.....x_x So much for Gou being 'tame'....they sure abandoned that completely. xD I had to cover my eyes through most of that first half...well, I'm glad I'm not totally desensitized to animated violence...lol Passione wtf they're like 10 years old What...Satoko is 10 with BOOBS THAT SIZE....surely not. I was flat as a board at age 10 lol |
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| Just make this a new gameboard where every Witch is playing but only Rika forgot that she is a player-piece. Hanyu - Featherine Satoko - Lambda Rika- Bernkastel Takano and Tomitake - Honestly I am afraid to get hyped with this cliffhanger. Last 3 episodes have killed any enthusiasm I had for Gou, so they might as well make this full fantasy with Umineko characters taking over. |
| I'm used to gore but that was gross lol luvcoochie said: blatant fan service for Rika and Satoko I'm surprised that's a thing while you have Rika with her intestines and stuff showing lol I mean I think child torture is a lot worse than children in swimsuits dood Chiibi said: HOLY SHIT, THAT WAS GROSS. THEY JUST KEPT GOING AND GOING AND GOING.....x_x So much for Gou being 'tame'....they sure abandoned that completely. xD I had to cover my eyes through most of that first half...well, I'm glad I'm not totally desensitized to animated violence...lol That's exactly what I felt. I haven't watched that level of gore in a while. Chiibi said: What...Satoko is 10 with BOOBS THAT SIZE....surely not. I was flat as a board at age 10 lol Actually, according to wikia Satoko is 11-12. PlayMaker22 said: I really don't understand Rika and Satoko's fan service complaints in this episode. They only show them in costume, they weren't even sexualized. I don't understand why you are so scandalized I mean, me neither. In Higurashi you get them tortured and killed in a lot of different ways and that's okay, but it's not okay when they use a swimsuit? |
LeviathanTheEspJan 21, 2021 11:29 PM
| A cliffhanger just when we finally get to the good stuff, thanks a lot. The Satoko scene was a drag with a slightly better direction, quite thankfully. While the fanservice was just jarring. Now give us a good reason why Rika didn't confront either Takano or Tomitake in, like, the last 10 episodes or so? She remembers how Matsuribayashi goes, right? God, it's hard to like Gou... |
Feeyah said: That's in Tatarigoroshi? If so, I gotta read that epilogue again. I think I remember this actually, by remember I mean slight memories, so I'll read that part again later.rafaelfserafim said: Excuse me, but what reference is that? I can't remember, really. In 1984, after the MC has been tortured and brainwashed by big brother, the last lines are "He loved Big Brother." |
rafaelfserafimJan 22, 2021 12:13 AM
joa12222 said: Oh, I see, I had no clue of the existence of the book.rafaelfserafim said: That's in Tatarigoroshi? If so, I gotta read that epilogue again. I think I remember this actually, by remember I mean slight memories, so I'll read that part again later. 1984 is a book by George Orwell. |
random_weirdo said: Considering that R07's VN had stuff like this (26:09-26:26): And things like Keiichi and Kameda's monologues (including one that compared eating cakes with eating girls), a nude sprite for Satoko after the bath scene in Tatarigoroshi and Irie's constant pedophilic remarks about Satoko and Rika, I don't think he would have that much trouble with this episode. Wouldn't Ryukishi have issues with the glorification of violence/gore, though? Like seriously, Gou has way too much focus on violence compared to the original series, and it's a main theme that murder is not a justifiable act in any way. It's honestly gross how Gou is seemingly disrespecting that. |
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| there’s something really disturbing in seeing a girl getting her entrails pulled out, that part of the episode made me feel queasy |
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| Anyone who says Higurashi was always about gore is lying or straight up delusional Higurashi was a drama/thriller with mostly the tragic lives and trauma of the cast taking the center stage, yeah there was some really gory scene here and there but it never got THIS bad and it definitely didn't have us sit through like 2 episodes straight of JUST torturing Rika for the heck of it. It's funny because old anime watchers were bitching about how Gou wasn't scary/Gory enough and now that they turned up the gore to 11 they are STIL bitching about it. |
Devil_SlayerJan 22, 2021 1:18 AM
| There is also something seriously wrong with how Rika loops here. How come she jumped into the next fragment and she's ALREADY a goner? A reminder that people worked for WEEKS on this fucking scene with Satoko literally butchering Rika for 10 min straight. It's beyond me how this got even a pass considering how absurd the gore is here. Also, people should really stop whining about "pedo" shit like they never watched Higurashi at all. R07 literally drew art of Satoko COMPLETELY naked in the original sound novel and the VN had to actually censor that Keiichi lusting over Satoko and Rika is also a mainstream gag in the side media of Higurashi Watching 10 years old kid butchering her friend like they butcher an animal is okay for you but them wearing swimsuits is crossing the line? |
Devil_SlayerJan 22, 2021 1:24 AM
| Was eating spaghetti while watching this episode. Rated it 1/5. |
random_weirdo said: LittleStar said: Damn it... I coulnd't watch Rika's torture scene... it was so scary and dumb... well... in first arc K1 and Rena could be explain but here is just too much... Oh... sorry... I thought about... |
luvcoochie said: A few years back I decided I was tired of my life as a fast paced ad executive, and decided to become a fisherman instead. I bought a bunch of old Field & Stream magazines off of ebay, and commenced to cutting out pictures of fish. I took my newly acquired fish to the fish monger market, and they paid me beau coup for the fish that I had sold them, and I was able to retire a wealthy man.Not a fan of the blatant fan service for Rika and Satoko, these are pre pubescent children, please stop with the pedophilic fan service I AM BEGGING AT THIS POINT. |
joa12222 said: rafaelfserafim said: That's in Tatarigoroshi? If so, I gotta read that epilogue again. I think I remember this actually, by remember I mean slight memories, so I'll read that part again later. 1984 is a book by George Orwell. Thanks for taking care of that clarification for me! |
| Every day you can read a book or watch some anime is a good day! |
| Ok, maybe I shouldn't have got myself spaghetti while watching this |
Devil_Slayer said: Also, people should really stop whining about "pedo" shit like they never watched Higurashi at all. R07 literally drew art of Satoko COMPLETELY naked in the original sound novel and the VN had to actually censor that Keiichi lusting over Satoko and Rika is also a mainstream gag in the side media of Higurashi Watching 10 years old kid butchering her friend like they butcher an animal is okay for you but them wearing swimsuits is crossing the line? And that was bad as well back then. You can't really force people to like that aspect about Higurashi, just because you don't have a problem with it. The difference between the gore scenes and the fanservice is the way the scenes are framed by the way (I never understood why some people don't understand that difference). Satoko butchering Rika is obviously framed as something horrible, wrong and extremely painful to Rika. It's supposed to disturb the viewer and if you take a look at this weeks discussion, it pretty much succeeded at doing so. Rika and Satoko in bathing suits with lighting/shading that especially highlights their bodies or the weird angles during the tag scene are not framed as that. It's sexualizing them in the positive carefree moments, it's supposed to be fun, desirable (in contrast to the suffering, not necessarily in a sexual way), it’s not framed as smth disturbing (which it is... sexualizing of 11 year olds shouldn't be thing) and only there cause they apparently thought some viewers want to see that. It serves no purpose to the story/narrative. You can do the fun and SoL moments without the fanservice, but it's hard to make a disturbing murder scene without gore (not impossible tho & the scene in this episode was definitely way too graphic/brutal). |
StormxNightmareJan 22, 2021 10:08 AM
There's no possible way you can steal my heart    I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
| bro how long is Rika's intestines :O |
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NoviSun said: luvcoochie said: A few years back I decided I was tired of my life as a fast paced ad executive, and decided to become a fisherman instead. I bought a bunch of old Field & Stream magazines off of ebay, and commenced to cutting out pictures of fish. I took my newly acquired fish to the fish monger market, and they paid me beau coup for the fish that I had sold them, and I was able to retire a wealthy man.Not a fan of the blatant fan service for Rika and Satoko, these are pre pubescent children, please stop with the pedophilic fan service I AM BEGGING AT THIS POINT. absolutely based reply |
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luvcoochie said: Not a fan of the blatant fan service for Rika and Satoko, these are pre pubescent children, please stop with the pedophilic fan service I AM BEGGING AT THIS POINT. Are you talking about the swimsuits? if u are then i don't think there was any strong fanservice other than "girls in swimsuits". Other than that there where some slight yuri undertones before the reveal of rika's guts.. after that i don't recall anything that you can classify as service. |
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Jean-Antoine said: Stop asking for endless sequels about stories that are finished and done.so, what's moral of the story? |
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| I'm sorry but that was too much. I didn't like this episode at all. |
| From what I've read here I've come to a conclusion that I might be mental because I rly enjoyed the gore sequence and I even ate spaghetti while watching it, no problem. It had amazing heavy atmosphere just like some of the legendary scenes from OG higurashi which is great. The whole episode had me on pins and needles, questioning everything that happened before or is about to happen so yeah I hope Ryukishi doesn't blow this and makes sense out of this bloody mess. It's definitely interesting to watch things unravel.. |
Russian_Hacker said: Was eating spaghetti while watching this episode. Rated it 1/5. Bruh I just realised there are 3 people in this thread already that have eaten spaghetti while watching this ep. Coincidence? |
Jean-Antoine said: Albi-kun said: I'm sorry but that was too much. I didn't like this episode at all. Please, tell me more. What do you mean by that? |
In a good way... idk about other i really enjoyed both visuals and direction |
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I have several problems with "GOU" but this episode had me interested all the time. BTW i'm not entitled to "your" opinion, so if u did not like the episode/series that's JUST on you. |
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| some of u put too much faith into R07s writing. start thinking critically instead of sucking ur favorite authors dick and excusing literal shit with 'u just dont undetstand' |
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