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Jan 17, 2021 8:25 AM
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Ruz69 said:
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Who stopped you from enjoying it? And I don't even expect you or anyone to agree with my opinion. But I still reserve the right to put forward my take out here.

Nah I never said I didn't agree with you I kinda see your point , what I'm saying is calling the fanbase blind for disagreeing with you is kinda dumb.


Just because the majority perceives something to be the absolute truth doesn't necessarily imply that it truly is. But who am I in front of the collective voice of the fanbase?
At the end of the day, people's opinions are irrelevant if you enjoy the show regardless of how poor the production quality was.
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Sourire said:
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Are you being sarcastic or is this a genuine question? If so then I take a moment to check out the manga panels. Isayama-san didn't dark them out just because it's a night scene. This is ridiculous! You're supposed to see the faces of the characters to a certain degree or else it's no different from a silhouette.
Also, we had numerous night scenes in the past seasons and the faces were clear as day. Utgard castle is one that came to my mind right now. Let's be real here. MAPPA failed to deliver.
They were lit by the moonlight in that scene. No I’m not being sarcastic.

There is more light here than moonlight in a jungle. It takes place in the middle of a district and large lights focusing on the plaza, so...
Jan 17, 2021 8:27 AM
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Besides from CGI, how was the adaptation ? 2 chapter again ?
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WillofFire700 said:
Once again I don't understand how people think the WHT looked bad in this episode

i didnt think WHT looks bad, its even better than AT imo. my only issue is the scouts being CGI. also the musics kinda lacking, though the warhammer ost was good
Jan 17, 2021 8:28 AM
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DomineLkira said:
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Are you kidding me? Is there no scope of genuine criticism?
You haven't watched enough anime with decent CGI! The CGI here is no way better than 99% of the anime unless your sample space is just a bunch of poorly made animes from the past.

Lol. Never said any of that. It's a fact that some people hate this adaptation because it's AOT. Studio WIT's animation has made the fans spoiled. If it was some other anime no one would have cared about the CG. I would even go as far as to say it would have been counted in one of the better use of CG in this medium.
The CG on the Corps looked awful tho , I will give you that. MAPPA using CG on things other than the titan fights is concerning.


Point taken. I guess WIT did really spoil most of us. And yes, the CGI is a genuine point of concern. I guess the staff is running on a tight schedule and overworked in general. There's nothing we can do about it.
Jan 17, 2021 8:28 AM

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I can agree on the talking scenes . They were pretty good . Mappa shouldn't have handled so much anime in a single year . #MappaPrefersJJk
Its not that mappa prefers jjk, thats not how it works. Its just that jujutsu has a way better schedule and its director is probably one of the best when it comes to handling fights, while aot is more experienced in overall directing and storyboards.

I just wanted to say that they shouldn't have handled so much anime . Especially anime like AOT which requires a lot of time and experienced people . JJk getting such a superior adaptation despite airing at the same time as AOT just bugs me


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I don’t think the CGI will affect the viewing quality for the anime-onlys. Since they’ll be focusing on the story, they won’t notice the CGI. And as a manga reader, after watching episode 1 a second time, I got used to the CG. So it’s a pretty perfect scenario for the anime onlys. So when they rewatch, the episode will still be just as fine.
Jan 17, 2021 8:29 AM
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Ya know, I always go into these episode discussions before the episode starts and see the people getting up and arms saying it’s so terrible and awful, yet every time I watch it it’s not. Quite hilarious.
Jan 17, 2021 8:30 AM
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WillofFire700 said:
Wait people really think the WHT looked bad this episode? I thought the WHT looked great for the most part. And if I remember correctly the scouts have been cg many times in the past when using odm gear. Even so I found the cg on the scouts hard to notice at most times. Only complaints I have with the episode is the AT cg could have been better and the soundtrack is still lacking. I've gotten used to the cgi Titans already so it's whatever, but one thing Mappa really needs to work on going forward are those osts. If they can at least get their ost choices and placement close to or at the level of Wit, it will really elevate this season. Imo this is more important than the cgi titans.


yeah i thought the same.
the warhammer titan looked good 70-80% times and only a few shots of it were bad
it wasnt as bad as these people are talking about.
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First of all too much CGI but the fight still looked good. It's war time.
The squad is here still missing a few people. Yay Floch is here excited for him.
Mikasa looking good plus Levi badass as ever. Jean looks great too.
Rip Willy Tyber, Udo, and Zofia. Warhammer titan looks alright.

Jan 17, 2021 8:32 AM

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Omertaskaya said:
Besides from CGI, how was the adaptation ? 2 chapter again ?


no this episode adapted 1.8 chapter
Jan 17, 2021 8:32 AM

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solele said:
I don’t think the CGI will affect the viewing quality for the anime-onlys. Since they’ll be focusing on the story, they won’t notice the CGI. And as a manga reader, after watching episode 1 a second time, I got used to the CG. So it’s a pretty perfect scenario for the anime onlys. So when they rewatch, the episode will still be just as fine.

I don't really agree with this I'm an anime only but the CGI still bothers me. Yea I love the story and all but the animation is a huge factor in enjoyement. No matter how good the story gets if the animation is poorly done then its going to affect the enjoyment aswell.
But I still love the show what can I say I'm a fanboy
Jan 17, 2021 8:34 AM
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zalapeno said:
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Once again I don't understand how people think the WHT looked bad in this episode

i didnt think WHT looks bad, its even better than AT imo. my only issue is the scouts being CGI. also the musics kinda lacking, though the warhammer ost was good
yes that was my only concern lol little bit disappointing with the scouts cgi, I mean I liked the wht vs at fight and Im okay with cgi on titans especially when we know there is too much titan action this season but I hoped that at least the scouts would be 2d but Ill wait for 1080p and subs to give my full review, the episode definitely was good
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue
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BlakexEkalb said:
Ya know, I always go into these episode discussions before the episode starts and see the people getting up and arms saying it’s so terrible and awful, yet every time I watch it it’s not. Quite hilarious.
It is just different opinions?

I guess a few people are disappointed at this, others are just fine though. Everyone is going to watch this to the end so genuine toxic fans will just seem really dumb lol.
Jan 17, 2021 8:35 AM

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Just remember that the whiners of this thread were doing the same last week, and the result was an episode with 3000 votes and a 90% of 5/5, the rating going from 9.07 to 9.15, an 9.9 in IMDb and breaking the record for most upvoted episode of all time in Reddit.

So enjoy it.
Jan 17, 2021 8:36 AM
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I literally started laughing at some scenes, lol that eren shot when he open his mouth, he can fit a whole titan in there, it was pure comedy rather than menacing/tragic..can't believe we will get more of this in the next eps and it will be probably worse lol,even eren vs reiner round2 was better
Ahh what should I do now, I feel so empty time to wait for the manga, I started losing passion for this show.
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shingojira-chan said:
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Its not that mappa prefers jjk, thats not how it works. Its just that jujutsu has a way better schedule and its director is probably one of the best when it comes to handling fights, while aot is more experienced in overall directing and storyboards.

I just wanted to say that they shouldn't have handled so much anime . Especially anime like AOT which requires a lot of time and experienced people . JJk getting such a superior adaptation despite airing at the same time as AOT just bugs me
Oh that i very much agree, mappa should not do as much stuff as they have been doing. The thing is tho, when a studio does to much at once, not all anime they are working on will get affect, just the ones with the worse schedule and less experienced teams, attack on titan, although being affected, it wasnt the one that got the biggest downgrade, it was actually taisou samurai which had some episodes with around 20 animation directors, which is terrible. And lets not forget that the animators are being very harmed by this, and because of that, i dont even mind the CG that much as it at least helps the people working on the show keep their health. (although it was still not good at all overall visually)
Jan 17, 2021 8:39 AM

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cAbaddon said:
Just remember that the whiners of this thread were doing the same last week, and the result was an episode with 3000 votes and a 90% of 5/5, the rating going from 9.07 to 9.15, an 9.9 in IMDb and breaking the record for most upvoted episode of all time in Reddit.

So enjoy it.
Yeah its the same group of users every week and usually with the same negative talking points
Jan 17, 2021 8:40 AM
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Erehhhh...
I was defending mappa this whole time, but now it is time to shit on them.I though that they were saving money for most epic fight in a manga and I expected great cgi. But damn this is not even ep1 level lol... The disappointment in this ep was extremely high, which was never experienced in aot. S3 p2 had terrible animation and fights(except levi and monke) but at least the drama was goated. Now we dont have both of them. THANK YOU GREEDY MAPPA.
Why the fuck everyone looks fat? Why scouts regiment are in 3d? Why ost sucks? Why epic moments are hilariously bad? There is now way fans would accept it. This is level of latest berserk... Such a lost and tragedy. Why it happened with aot? Fk u mappa, fk ur fanboys.

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Jan 17, 2021 8:41 AM
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cAbaddon said:
Just remember that the whiners of this thread were doing the same last week, and the result was an episode with 3000 votes and a 90% of 5/5, the rating going from 9.07 to 9.15, an 9.9 in IMDb and breaking the record for most upvoted episode of all time in Reddit.

So enjoy it.


Your comment should be highlighted in the front page, some people who complained about this ep are also those who always nutpicked every single episode...
Jan 17, 2021 8:41 AM

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Lol good thing my favorite chapters getting animated don't have fight scenes .


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cAbaddon said:
Just remember that the whiners of this thread were doing the same last week, and the result was an episode with 3000 votes and a 90% of 5/5, the rating going from 9.07 to 9.15, an 9.9 in IMDb and breaking the record for most upvoted episode of all time in Reddit.

So enjoy it.


Exactly!
they should not pay attention to what some people say...because it definitely was not bad!
"Raise your words, not voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder"~Rumi


Jan 17, 2021 8:43 AM

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Sourire said:
cAbaddon said:
Just remember that the whiners of this thread were doing the same last week, and the result was an episode with 3000 votes and a 90% of 5/5, the rating going from 9.07 to 9.15, an 9.9 in IMDb and breaking the record for most upvoted episode of all time in Reddit.

So enjoy it.
Yeah its the same group of users every week and usually with the same negative talking points


Same talking points, want people to read the manga for the "real attack on titan experience" and yet keep coming back every single episode and complaining about the same things.

Honestly, if the manga is the best version of this material and you've said the same thing since episode 1, what makes you think it'll change? Perhaps it's best you drop the anime instead of torturing yourself every week.
Jan 17, 2021 8:46 AM
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Can anyone even see wtf is happening in this episode it’s so damn dark ?? Oh god I’m getting Game of Thrones final season flashbacks
Jan 17, 2021 8:47 AM
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Cant wait for cgi beast titan vs cgi levi 🤡🤡
Jan 17, 2021 8:48 AM

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BlakexEkalb said:
Ya know, I always go into these episode discussions before the episode starts and see the people getting up and arms saying it’s so terrible and awful, yet every time I watch it it’s not. Quite hilarious.

Please do not pay attention to them!
They are the stupids that said the episode 5 isn't great!...

Episode 6 was definitely not bad!
"Raise your words, not voice. It is rain that grows flowers, not thunder"~Rumi


Jan 17, 2021 8:49 AM
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IamdevilBtw said:
Erehhhh... I was defending mappa this whole time, but now it is time to shit on them.I though that they were saving money for most epic fight in a manga and I expected great cgi. But damn this is not even ep1 level lol...

I don’t even understand how some people keep defending them, this season has been dogshit and underwhelming, It’s gonna be even worse in the coming episodes and thats kinda scary.
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IamdevilBtw said:
Erehhhh... I was defending mappa this whole time, but now it is time to shit on them.I though that they were saving money for most epic fight in a manga and I expected great cgi. But damn this is not even ep1 level lol...


dont blame MAPPA my dude, blame the production. they give a shit schedule to MAPPA.
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Sourire said:
Yeah its the same group of users every week and usually with the same negative talking points


Same talking points, want people to read the manga for the "real attack on titan experience" and yet keep coming back every single episode and complaining about the same things.

Honestly, if the manga is the best version of this material and you've said the same thing since episode 1, what makes you think it'll change? Perhaps it's best you drop the anime instead of torturing yourself every week.
Thats my chain of thought too. And even though I do prefer the manga overall, I still dont dislike what MAPPA is doing under ridiculous working conditions and scheduling due to the production committee. More time given would’ve definitely improved the anime quality overall but it’s nowhere near as bad as these people make it to be. And the storyline is 10/10 material.
Jan 17, 2021 8:53 AM
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I had low expectations of the cg and thought aot was ruined. I was wronged.
The cg was amazing and way better than what I thought it would be so cg- 3/5 at best and 2/5 at worst. Total score 5/5
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Had this been any other anime, MAPPA would have been ridiculed to hell. At this point in time, Shingeki no Kyojin's amazing storyline is carrying it through and the blind fanbase keeps rating the trainwreck 10/10 every week.

No they wouldn't be. The CG use is already better than 99% of anime. The anime is only hated so much by some people BECAUSE it is attack on titan.


Lmao, ton of CG anime looks hundred times better than this shitfest, it's complete failure. I can point every scene that using bad CGI, oh wait, every cgi scene is bad anyway, so I don't have to point anything.
Especially they fucked up with character model, I wonder why Levi gain weight in this episode?
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Where are the CGI scouts everyone mentioned ? I didn't see it . Maybe its because I'm seeing it at a lower quality . The ODM scenes look much better than I expected . It was the best part about this episode .


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Jan 17, 2021 8:55 AM
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I had low expectations for this episode, but the episode somehow managed to go even lower. It couldn't even make me smile once. The episode actually killed my appetite.

I'll throw in the fact that I'm one of the people who supported Mappa when they received shit after the first episode. I loved the first episode, it's overall direction, OST choice, action, of course the CGI at times was weird but I was happy with what we got as a community.

But this episode is just sad.

You have the freedom to disagree with whatever I've said, but I have the freedom to not listen to you.
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DomineLkira said:

No they wouldn't be. The CG use is already better than 99% of anime. The anime is only hated so much by some people BECAUSE it is attack on titan.


Lmao, ton of CG anime looks hundred times better than this shitfest, it's complete failure. I can point every scene that using bad CGI, oh wait, every cgi scene is bad anyway, so I don't have to point anything.
Especially they fucked up with character model, I wonder why Levi gain weight in this episode?

Show me the bad Levi model you are talking about. I was actually concerned because Levi looked awful in the trailer but he looks much better here. Plus show me the "good" CG in recent anime which isn't by ufotable or Studio Orange.
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Still very disappointing episode, just MAPPA don't have a passion to make a good adaptation like WIT.Their overuse of 3DCGI is shit, choice of OST is same.Changing studios was a big mistake.
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shingojira-chan said:
Where are the CGI scouts everyone mentioned ? I didn't see it . Maybe its because I'm seeing it at a lower quality . The ODM scenes look much better than I expected . It was the best part about this episode .

Lol that's because it was hard to notice most of the time unless you were looking really hard for it
Jan 17, 2021 9:00 AM

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shingojira-chan said:
Where are the CGI scouts everyone mentioned ? I didn't see it . Maybe its because I'm seeing it at a lower quality .


For example when Mikasa landed on Eren's titan or when Jean landed on the rooftop
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I don't know if this is considered a spoiler question, but:

Jan 17, 2021 9:02 AM

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according to all those complaints the cgi looks even worse than in berserk.
Jan 17, 2021 9:02 AM
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The worst episode in attack on titans history, had to bleach my eyes after watching the ugly cgi for 20mins
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I thought the titan fight in CG mostly looked great. And most of the ODM scenes looked quite good, especially the moments where the camera is also moving with the CG models. During those moments, it really hard to pick out if it's CG or not. However, scenes with a static camera really makes the CG ODM stand out in a bad way. Two scenes that came off as jarring to me was the scene after the eyecatch, where they attacked enemies on the roof with their ODM gear (same scene where Jean appeared). The other jarring scene would be at the end, where they were circling around the Jaw Titan. For scenes with a static camera, they should stick to 2D animation. CG's fine for everything else.

As for the episode, it was pretty good. The stuff that'll happen in the next two episodes will interest me more, but this was a good follow up episode to the last one. It was nice to see the characters from Paradis Island again, especially with their new time-skip designs.
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I don't know if this is considered a spoiler question, but:




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Jan 17, 2021 9:03 AM
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Ask yourself these questions:
Is this what you were excepting after watching s3p2?
Is this what you were excepting after seeing the trailer?
Do you realize that this is the best produced ep of the season?
This is opm s2 quallity,
I don't know how I will watch this with my sisters tommorow it is embarassing please help, it would be ao cringe seeing these scenes with someone else.
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The CGI looks amazing in 1080p. I take back what I said earlier about it not looking as good as the first ep.
Jan 17, 2021 9:04 AM

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Plus show me the "good" CG in recent anime which isn't by ufotable or Studio Orange.


Dorohedoro done by Mappa
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I don't know if this is considered a spoiler question, but:






Ooh, NICE! Thanks!
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Where are the CGI scouts everyone mentioned ? I didn't see it . Maybe its because I'm seeing it at a lower quality .


For example when Mikasa landed on Eren's titan or when Jean landed on the rooftop
Oh yeah... right .
Why would they use CG for humans ? Is it so hard to animate humans for MAPPA ?


Something that’s supposed to die and doesn’t… will eventually rot away , whether it’s a man or a nation
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Reiner_undieable said:
Ask yourself these questions:
Is this what you were excepting after watching s3p2?
Is this what you were excepting after seeing the trailer?
Do you realize that this is the best produced ep of the season?
This is opm s2 quallity,
I don't know how I will watch this with my sisters tommorow it is embarassing please help, it would be ao cringe seeing these scenes with someone else.
Why do you tune in every week? No reason to.
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Not going to lie, this is the first episode where I felt disappointed after finish watching it. There was a lot of mix bags imo.

The positive.

- The Mikasa entrance scene was really good! with usage of the 3d gear.
- The Warhammer titan actually doesn't look bad in cgi and his abilities look good!
- Ost usage was decent.
-Direction overall is good
-Basically no censoring

The bad.
- The characters when using the 3d gear, switching from cg to 2d when the characters are close up is jarring, not all scenes but some where really jarring.

- The beginning scene after the op was happening was way too fast for my liking, Eren body slamming into the crowd was just way too quick and had no weight into it, I was expecting even a slow mo in that scene, same for Udo scene they did a Usain bolt on that whole scene.

-When Eren was punching the Warhammer titan when it was down, the clang, clang sound effect didn't sound right, was the Warhammer titan made out of metal? the titan was skinless so I am not sure why they used that sound effect and the worst part it was happening while Magath was talking so it took me out of that scene for a while. :/

This is the first episode where I am imaging if Wit was still animating this series and thinking how much better these scenes would have been, the 3d gear movements and the 2d titans were the main reason for attack on titan attractive animation and this is now mostly gone, except for the one or two scenes that looks good.

This episode was the episode that will make or break the series, I am not sure if snk can get the #1 spot anymore, depending on what the majority thinks imo is on this episode the score may start to drop and that is disappointing.... I hope I am wrong.

Maybe my opinion will change on a rewatch when its out in subs and in 1080p but for now this is my first impression.

3.5/5

I am hoping because anime only didn't read the manga they wont be in the same situation as me on how I was imaging certain scenes to be animated, I really hope they enjoy this weeks episode way more than I did and that those things I mention will not be much of a bother.

@deg you were right, no sakuga for this season. I don't think we can even compare it to jjk as snk doesn't have any sakuga to compare it with, except for the quick scenes in episode 3.

Cao wasn't lying when he said keep expectation low, he tried his best though I can see it and I appreciate his effort but that doesn't mean his work can't be criticize.
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shingojira-chan said:
MappaPrefersJJK said:


For example when Mikasa landed on Eren's titan or when Jean landed on the rooftop
Oh yeah... right .
Why would they use CG for humans ? Is it so hard to animate humans for MAPPA ?


Maybe because of the new outfit
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