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Dec 10, 2020 7:39 PM
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keragamming said:
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I'm watching some live reactions and a lot of people are saying the animation got better! an upgrade! especially when they saw the Reiner transformation scene.

I was just thinking how triggered you would have been if you were watching it. XD


One of my friends said the same, it usually happens with people who are not animation enthusiast.

I still remember he also saying S3p2 looked better than previous seasons.
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chiearlymorning said:
keragamming said:
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I'm watching some live reactions and a lot of people are saying the animation got better! an upgrade! especially when they saw the Reiner transformation scene.

I was just thinking how triggered you would have been if you were watching it. XD

that transformation was pretty sick tho https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/138869


oh yeah that was godly.
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MAQS said:
keragamming said:
@MironBiron

I'm watching some live reactions and a lot of people are saying the animation got better! an upgrade! especially when they saw the Reiner transformation scene.

I was just thinking how triggered you would have been if you were watching it. XD


One of my friends said the same, it usually happens with people who are not animation enthusiast.

I still remember he also saying S3p2 looked better than previous seasons.
And those people are 99% of the audience. The fans who actually engage on MAL/Twitter/Reddit are the 1% vocal minority, whether positive or negative. We literally don't matter xD, it's the general consensus that does. And I bet you the general consensus for this season is going to surpass S3P2.
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I_Am_Freeballing said:
MAQS said:


One of my friends said the same, it usually happens with people who are not animation enthusiast.

I still remember he also saying S3p2 looked better than previous seasons.
And those people are 99% of the audience. The fans who actually engage on MAL/Twitter/Reddit are the 1% vocal minority, whether positive or negative. We literally don't matter xD, it's the general consensus that does. And I bet you the general consensus for this season is going to surpass S3P2.


Not quite 1% but yes we are in the vast minority.

I am pretty sure the final season once it ends will be rubbing alongside S3p2 in the top anime ranking, either below or above.

I am more interested in the IMDB rankings, mostly because its a non anime point of view.

After years and years I have noticed, I am getting older, but anime fans are not lol, they still are a teen centric demographics which by nature makes the open conversation in forums and such, chaotic.

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chiearlymorning said:
keragamming said:
@MironBiron

I'm watching some live reactions and a lot of people are saying the animation got better! an upgrade! especially when they saw the Reiner transformation scene.

I was just thinking how triggered you would have been if you were watching it. XD

that transformation was pretty sick tho https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/138869


Yea, there are actually some effects sakuga cuts like the blood splatter from the mindless titans, but they went by so fast not much people even notice, it's done by the same animator who did the mindless titan airdrop
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/138868
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/138878




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MAQS said:
I_Am_Freeballing said:
And those people are 99% of the audience. The fans who actually engage on MAL/Twitter/Reddit are the 1% vocal minority, whether positive or negative. We literally don't matter xD, it's the general consensus that does. And I bet you the general consensus for this season is going to surpass S3P2.


Not quite 1% but yes we are in the vast minority.

I am pretty sure the final season once it ends will be rubbing alongside S3p2 in the top anime ranking, either below or above.

I am more interested in the IMDB rankings, mostly because its a non anime point of view.

After years and years I have noticed, I am getting older, but anime fans are not lol, they still are a teen centric demographics which by nature makes the open conversation in forums and such, chaotic.

Yes I was exaggerating, let's say 5%.
Dec 11, 2020 1:10 AM

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https://twitter.com/Spytrue/status/1337323215555878912

I have mixed feelings about his character design. Spoilers btw
Dec 11, 2020 1:16 AM

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...Why?
Stupid idea to put his reveal in the website's servers before making it into the character page but oh well
Dec 11, 2020 1:31 AM

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SnipELateness said:
https://twitter.com/Spytrue/status/1337323215555878912

I have mixed feelings about his character design. Spoilers btw


Wtf is that hairline and forehead, they seriously fucked him up. Considering this sheets will be the best he looks just like the other characters, I wonder how will he look in the anime now.
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TheCloverfield said:
...Why?
Stupid idea to put his reveal in the website's servers before making it into the character page but oh well


Nah the leakers found it on the website by changing something in the url. It wasn't officially relese. The leakers removed all their tweets about him.
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SirTristram said:
SnipELateness said:
https://twitter.com/Spytrue/status/1337323215555878912

I have mixed feelings about his character design. Spoilers btw


Wtf is that hairline and forehead, they seriously fucked him up. Considering this sheets will be the best he looks just like the other characters, I wonder how will he look in the anime now.


Yeah, his forehead is massive. But for some reason, they didn't show him bandaged so I guess that'll hide his gigabrain.
Dec 11, 2020 1:35 AM

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SirTristram said:
Wtf is that hairline and forehead, they seriously fucked him up. Considering this sheets will be the best he looks just like the other characters, I wonder how will he look in the anime now.

His forehead looks bigger because he's missing the bandage in that specific sheet variation (which happens with every character that have additional clothing/misc on their face) I don't see how that's "fucking him up"
He's quite literally 1-1 with the manga minus it
Dec 11, 2020 1:37 AM

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To be fair, his forehead in the manga is massive too. The bandage covers it up and makes it look alright.
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SnipELateness said:
Yeah, his forehead is massive. But for some reason, they didn't show him bandaged so I guess that'll hide his gigabrain.


Maybe it's because of the angle but his body looks like of a middle aged man's too. I mean look at that belly, he must have been eating good and sleeping all day.

I saved the image btw, I know he deleted it.
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Eren design looks fantastic imo
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PrasantGrG said:
Eren design looks fantastic imo

Yeah, I was thrown off by his huge forehead. But it'll be covered up in the anime.
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berutoruto said:
chiearlymorning said:

that transformation was pretty sick tho https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/138869


Yea, there are actually some effects sakuga cuts like the blood splatter from the mindless titans, but they went by so fast not much people even notice, it's done by the same animator who did the mindless titan airdrop
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/138868
https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/138878






Yes. Those blood splashes look really good in the unblurred version.
Subjectivity is a joke on MAL. If you implicitly bring in subjectivity in your counter argument, you've already lost the debate. Also this website is a fankid infestation , have pity on those kids by ignoring there quotes as they have absolutely no clue what exactly is going on.
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SirTristram said:
SnipELateness said:
Yeah, his forehead is massive. But for some reason, they didn't show him bandaged so I guess that'll hide his gigabrain.


Maybe it's because of the angle but his body looks like of a middle aged man's too. I mean look at that belly, he must have been eating good and sleeping all day.

I saved the image btw, I know he deleted it.


Oh boy if only you knew, you kinda ruin the plottwist here, you were not suppose to know it was him and he is suppose to look like how you describe him lol he is literally call "hobo Eren in this arc" when Eren was first shown in the manga many didn't even know it was him, I suspected it was him but didn't have any solid proof since we didn't know how timeskip Eren looked.
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Found some fan edits of the character designs




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WillofFire700 said:
Guys, 2 chapters per episode is really not that bad. Midnight sun, That Day, and Attack Titan were all dialogue heavy chapters that still adapted 2 chapters per episode. And all 3 of those episodes are among the very best episodes in the entire series.
yes and hayashi is a very good director, he will handle the dialogue heavy chapters well!!


I don't think he would have been involved untill epiosde 4-5 be interesting when he makes an appearance on the staff list
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Mattinator95 said:

I don't think he would have been involved untill epiosde 4-5 be interesting when he makes an appearance on the staff list

Apparently, he was brought while episode 10 of Dorohedoro was being worked on (series is 12 episode long) so I expect him to pop in at episode 3, or at least 4! I hope these are the *movie quality storyboard/cinematography* episodes mentionned. This is going to be so big, I can't wait. Feeling bad for people that switched to the manga last minute
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looks great and i love him :D
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Hi guys, I'm making a little request here, in your future discussions about aot productions please do not quote C** name as the source, also if possible please don't openly discuss & share the infos you got from my previous posts in this forum, i know it's gonna be hard, i cant force/control everyone to follow but i ask for your understandings here, i don't want to cause any troubles to the staff.

Also the infos from my previous post are all about the author himself, about when he enter aot team during dorohedoro production and what not, that's him sharing his own experience in this work, we have no idea when exactly other staff members join or start the work for aot, you can state those deductions as your own thoughts but it is not a fact/confirmed insider infos so do not quote the person as source!!!
It's a sensitive period now, so I asked for your understandings, I apologize for the troubles & thank you!!!
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keragamming said:
@MironBiron

I'm watching some live reactions and a lot of people are saying the animation got better! an upgrade! especially when they saw the Reiner transformation scene.

I was just thinking how triggered you would have been if you were watching it. XD

Oh hell no I’m not watching that. Lmao.





Look what they did to my boy. Nobody bothered to make this shit look even slightly fleshy or textured. It looks like Cartoon Network or whatever tried to make an anime.

What a huge defeat. To be perfectly honest. I doubt a single one of us is making it back alive.
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MironBiron said:
keragamming said:
@MironBiron

I'm watching some live reactions and a lot of people are saying the animation got better! an upgrade! especially when they saw the Reiner transformation scene.

I was just thinking how triggered you would have been if you were watching it. XD

Oh hell no I’m not watching that. Lmao.





Look what they did to my boy. Nobody bothered to make this shit look even slightly fleshy or textured. It looks like Cartoon Network or whatever tried to make an anime.

What a huge defeat. To be perfectly honest. I doubt a single one of us is making it back alive.


I personally thought it looked gorgeous but it's what it's. They didn't even had to show those details when he is transforming, so this bonus to me.
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MironBiron said:
keragamming said:
@MironBiron

I'm watching some live reactions and a lot of people are saying the animation got better! an upgrade! especially when they saw the Reiner transformation scene.

I was just thinking how triggered you would have been if you were watching it. XD

Oh hell no I’m not watching that. Lmao.





Look what they did to my boy. Nobody bothered to make this shit look even slightly fleshy or textured. It looks like Cartoon Network or whatever tried to make an anime.

What a huge defeat. To be perfectly honest. I doubt a single one of us is making it back alive.

View it in animation. The outline is meant to be the focus, too much detail would only distract from the fluid transformation and tracking. You're judging an anime, meant to be seen in motion, by screenshots, rather than the scene itself. I swear people are trying to make criticism out of nothing.
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View it in animation. The outline is meant to be the focus, too much detail would only distract from the fluid transformation and tracking. You're judging an anime, meant to be seen in motion, by screenshots, rather than the scene itself. I swear people are trying to make criticism out of nothing.

It lacks detail and we all know that it isn’t a creative choice.

Attack on Titan borrows a lot from realism and the staff doesn’t have the time or resources to use moderate photorealistic elements.

I’m a huge fan of cinema, more than I’m a fan of anime, and I simply like seeing mature cinematographic elements in my favorite anime.

@keragamming

It’s not a bonus. They showed the transformation in CH92 as well and it looked very textured.
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MironBiron said:
ShoriTora said:
View it in animation. The outline is meant to be the focus, too much detail would only distract from the fluid transformation and tracking. You're judging an anime, meant to be seen in motion, by screenshots, rather than the scene itself. I swear people are trying to make criticism out of nothing.

It lacks detail and we all know that it isn’t a creative choice.

Attack on Titan borrows a lot from realism and the staff doesn’t have the time or resources to use moderate photorealistic elements.

I’m a huge fan of cinema, more than I’m a fan of anime, and I simply like seeing mature cinematographic elements in my favorite anime.

@keragamming

It’s not a bonus. They showed the transformation in CH92 as well and it looked very textured.

if lack of detail was an issue I dont see why they'd go to the extra effort of improving the shifter pov shots, but if u'd prefer the transformation with detail thats ur opinion and thats cool too, I just think its better without it. To each their own ig
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ShoriTora said:
if lack of detail was an issue I dont see why they'd go to the extra effort of improving the shifter pov shots, but if u'd prefer the transformation with detail thats ur opinion and thats cool too, I just think its better without it. To each their own ig

It’s crazy how perspectives can be different like that. For me personally, it’s a complete alien idea to prefer a transformation that involves flesh to lack detail opposed to one that contains visible textures. But I’m not in the place to judge.

I like some of the shifter shots compositionally, they look great as a small image but the compositing completely rids them of their detail when you see them on a full screen.
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Seems like mappa will be reusing wit footage when the characters recall their past events

https://twitter.com/Dacsubs/status/1337400255990689794

I sense another shitstorms coming XDD
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MironBiron said:
keragamming said:
@MironBiron

I'm watching some live reactions and a lot of people are saying the animation got better! an upgrade! especially when they saw the Reiner transformation scene.

I was just thinking how triggered you would have been if you were watching it. XD

Oh hell no I’m not watching that. Lmao.





Look what they did to my boy. Nobody bothered to make this shit look even slightly fleshy or textured. It looks like Cartoon Network or whatever tried to make an anime.

What a huge defeat. To be perfectly honest. I doubt a single one of us is making it back alive.
If I screenshot the reiner vs eren fight in s3 p2, I would get some really ugly, bad drawn pictures
Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue
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berutoruto said:
Seems like mappa will be reusing wit footage when the characters recall their past events

https://twitter.com/Dacsubs/status/1337400255990689794

I sense another shitstorms coming XDD


I was hoping for this, thank god! Its a flashback from season 1, why would they change it? people will just compare how bad the cgi are now with Wit hand drawn titan shifters in season 1.
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keragamming said:
berutoruto said:
Seems like mappa will be reusing wit footage when the characters recall their past events

https://twitter.com/Dacsubs/status/1337400255990689794

I sense another shitstorms coming XDD


I was hoping for this, thank god! Its a flashback from season 1, why would they change it? people will just compare how bad the cgi are now with Wit hand drawn titan shifters in season 1.


Yeah i think they really don't have the time to redraw the scenes, would rather they save time and put efforts in other important scenes but difference in art style & color gonna be obvious i wonder how they gonna do..perhaps filters lol...
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berutoruto said:
Seems like mappa will be reusing wit footage when the characters recall their past events

https://twitter.com/Dacsubs/status/1337400255990689794

I sense another shitstorms coming XDD
Better that than to have countless of threads next week comparing WIT and Mappa redrawn scenes.
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berutoruto said:
keragamming said:


I was hoping for this, thank god! Its a flashback from season 1, why would they change it? people will just compare how bad the cgi are now with Wit hand drawn titan shifters in season 1.


Yeah i think they really don't have the time to redraw the scenes, would rather they save time and put efforts in other important scenes but difference in art style & color gonna be obvious i wonder how they gonna do..perhaps filters lol...


I mean its a flashback from season 1, everyone knows its a different studio animating the final, nothing can be done about that.

I_Am_Freeballing said:
berutoruto said:
Seems like mappa will be reusing wit footage when the characters recall their past events

https://twitter.com/Dacsubs/status/1337400255990689794

I sense another shitstorms coming XDD
Better that than to have countless of threads next week comparing WIT and Mappa redrawn scenes.


Exactly which I knew @MironBiron @SirTristram would be licking their fingers with this if it were to happen.
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keragamming said:
berutoruto said:


Yeah i think they really don't have the time to redraw the scenes, would rather they save time and put efforts in other important scenes but difference in art style & color gonna be obvious i wonder how they gonna do..perhaps filters lol...


I mean its a flashback from season 1, everyone knows its a different studio animating the final, nothing can be done about that.

I_Am_Freeballing said:
Better that than to have countless of threads next week comparing WIT and Mappa redrawn scenes.


Exactly which I knew @MironBiron @SirTristram would be licking their fingers with this if it were to happen.
Don't put them in the same basket please, Miron is reasonable.
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I_Am_Freeballing said:
MAQS said:


One of my friends said the same, it usually happens with people who are not animation enthusiast.

I still remember he also saying S3p2 looked better than previous seasons.
And those people are 99% of the audience. The fans who actually engage on MAL/Twitter/Reddit are the 1% vocal minority, whether positive or negative. We literally don't matter xD, it's the general consensus that does. And I bet you the general consensus for this season is going to surpass S3P2.

Yes, thank you, that's exactly how reality is. As long as the quality doesn't drop, the wars between 1000 users on MAL, twitter and etc. are almost literally non-existent. My pov is that regardless of how the previous seasons were adapted/animated, the only thing actually matters is making the manga justice, so most people can enjoy this awesome story.
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I_Am_Freeballing said:
keragamming said:


I mean its a flashback from season 1, everyone knows its a different studio animating the final, nothing can be done about that.



Exactly which I knew @MironBiron @SirTristram would be licking their fingers with this if it were to happen.
Don't put them in the same basket please, Miron is reasonable.


It wasn't meant as something disrespectful to be honest, I was just saying it in a jokingly way.
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Are we gonna see a return of the thicc lines??
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chiearlymorning said:
Are we gonna see a return of the thicc lines??

I don't think so, Isayama doesn't seem to like them. He told WIT to remove them almost entirely for S3.

And if anyone is curious about it, the thick lines are a filter, they are not drawn, sometimes noses or eyes are, but that's pretty much it.
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Are we gonna see a return of the thicc lines??

I don't think so, Isayama doesn't seem to like them. He told WIT to remove them almost entirely for S3.

And if anyone is curious about it, the thick lines are a filter, they are not drawn, sometimes noses or eyes are, but that's pretty much it.

I thought they removed it cause thicc lines are harder to draw
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chiearlymorning said:
Karnox001 said:

I don't think so, Isayama doesn't seem to like them. He told WIT to remove them almost entirely for S3.

And if anyone is curious about it, the thick lines are a filter, they are not drawn, sometimes noses or eyes are, but that's pretty much it.

I thought they removed it cause thicc lines are harder to draw

In SnK some of them are hand drawn, like hair and the other things I mentioned. But most of them I'm pretty sure it's a filter, just like Bercouli vs Vector in SaO WotU part 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzVHeehZZzw&ab_channel=Alcinos_
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Are we gonna see a return of the thicc lines??

I don't think so, Isayama doesn't seem to like them. He told WIT to remove them almost entirely for S3.

And if anyone is curious about it, the thick lines are a filter, they are not drawn, sometimes noses or eyes are, but that's pretty much it.


But its a flashback and they are simple reusing old scene, I don't see why they go into the trouble to remove the thicc lines which will just take up more time.
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keragamming said:
Karnox001 said:

I don't think so, Isayama doesn't seem to like them. He told WIT to remove them almost entirely for S3.

And if anyone is curious about it, the thick lines are a filter, they are not drawn, sometimes noses or eyes are, but that's pretty much it.


But its a flashback and they are simple reusing old scene, I don't see why they go into the trouble to remove the thicc lines which will just take up more time.

Oh, so when chiearlymoorning asked if they were gonna return you guys were talking about the flashback?
Fuck, I messed up the conversation xD, I saw something about animation and I replied without the proper context. Sorry for that :P
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I will become a believer in GOD if we get 2 movies


If we only get 1 then that would be so disappointing.
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The character designs art itself for everyone kind of sucks. They look much better in the actual anime so I expect the same for Eren
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Just saw

And it's not that bad but there are 2 Major mistakes imo

1:wrong side holding the stick to move

2: WHERE's the BANDAGE!?

I think that the BANDAGE should cover up for the big forehead. I hope (pray) in the anime to looks better. πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™
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Just saw

And it's not that bad but there are 2 Major mistakes imo

1:wrong side holding the stick to move

2: WHERE's the BANDAGE!?

I think that the BANDAGE should cover up for the big forehead. I hope (pray) in the anime to looks better. πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™


Obviously the bandage is going to be in the actual episode.
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someone the bandage on and the "too wide forehead" suddenly makes sense.
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I don't know what to worry about pacing or animation, 16 eps are not enough for 32 ch and I don't want decleration of war and ch 100-104 to be full cg.


Maybe there will be 24 chapters. And I think that pacing will be good because MAPA is not creating an illusion of quality, animation are fast paced and intense. But the episode one was whole fighting, the real talk starts in episode 2. They covered 2 chapters in episode 1 and I don't think the same will happen when they adapt the scenes where there is just talking, reiner and new warriors, eren and falco, eren and his grandfather (even though it was not a long talk)
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