White Album 2nd Season Episode 3 Discussion

francismeunier said:
Does Touya have problems with his rent around the 13:05 mark? Misaki looked shocked about the conversation he had on the phone.

francismeunier said:
Rina's rebellion against Eiji and how much shock/pain it was to Yuki. That was bad for Yuki, really bad and all because of some Venus project thing?

vinesage said:

Ok thanks for info. That is even more shocking and who knew Touya had a uncle

Damn so that's how it goes, really too bad then. Guess Yuki either let's her place to Rina or Rina is not going to be with the Ogata production. Either way it looks to be painful emotionally to Yuki.

Yeah, Touya x Yuki is going down the drain.

francismeunier said:
Yeah, Touya x Yuki is going down the drain.

vinesage said:
The problem is, it shows he actually is thinking about Yuki, eg the end ~ (what a jerk)

Oosran said:
No srsly? Someone's taking pictures of who with who? I'm not keeping up right now O.o

Oosran said:
aaaand anyhow, does Touya actually start feeling guilty or something by now?

francismeunier said:


I think he is more depressed. I sense suicide unless something happens. I think he should forget all and forge himself with Rina. Yayoi said the love is impossible. Question is if he is going to do something about that still or not?

Oosran said:

Then I do indeed hope he does go through with it and kills himself. I think everyone would benefit from it. Oh except for Yuki, she'll probably be sad though D:

confuser987 said:
Man! Touya reminds me of Makoto!

confuser987 said:
I wonder what happens to Rina now. Will she be successful without a company?

noteDhero said:
Also, I don't really get Akira's over-emotional reaction to letting down Touya when I don't think I've seen any particularly friendly vibes about him the whole show long. I need to know why they're even friends to be honest.

francismeunier said:

Only thing I can say is that Akira has been friends with Yuki/Fujii/Misaka since highschool. It was said in first season. Maybe that is why they are close together.

noteDhero said:
Well directed, badly scripted episode. I think that's how this series is.

What I gleaned from everything is that Yayoi and Ogata are colluding to protect Yuki from Touya so she doesn't melt down and instead become famous. Clearly the way she was acting about Touya's dad proves that she can't handle anything remotely sad or shocking.

So many weird and bad developments.

I think Rina has been dragged into this because she chose to pull Touya into this world, and now that he's screwed around (I'm not sure if she knows about him and Yayoi), and she likes Yuki somewhat, she feels a little responsible/protective, yet still wants to have her career. I'm not so sure why she didn't just step down from joining the festival, but I guess it was to avoid a seemingly big snub.

Finally, Touya is an idiot. Why is he talking to Yayoi about being thankful for seeing Yuki on Christmas Eve. he didn't seem to want anything to do with her not but a week later. Also, I don't really get Akira's over-emotional reaction to letting down Touya when I don't think I've seen any particularly friendly vibes about him the whole show long. I need to know why they're even friends to be honest.

DeathfireD said:

Yayoi and Ogata where talking about the stalker not Touyai. Ogata's remark was about the guy taking pictures of Yayoi and Touya together. Ogata asked if everything was ok with her and if he should take legal actions on the stalker. I'm still thinking that the stalker is Rin's old assistant. Putting this episode aside for a second, yes, we already knew Ogata and Yayoi where keeping Touya away from Yuki. They even warned him several times in the first season that he would only bring her down.

I'm pretty sure Rina would have been tossed aside at some point since her brother has had a growing attachment to Yuki since season 1. I think Rina just figured that she should leave now in-staid of being dragged down and forgotten by her brother. I'm not sure why Rina wants to still compete though. I guess it could just be stubbornness. The down side is if she loses to Yuki her career is going to tank horribly. On the flip side if she wins not much will change since she's already the top singer that's plastered everywhere. It's really a lose lose for Rina.

As for Akira, I think it's understandable to be a little emotional about what happend. He pressured what's her face into having sex and because of that Touya's dad ended up trying to get the food before it burned which caused him to collapse. His reaction was a bit over the top but it's still very understandable. As for the whole situation...Touya should have been there in the first place. It's unacceptable to pawn your sick parents off to your friends just so you can go do your own thing. But then again the dream he had makes it seem like he had something bad happen to him as a child.

Siva said:

noterDhero is right, I think you need to watch the first season again to see how close they are as a friend. At the scene where Akira getting over-emotional and said "Its my fault" I was like wtf.

noteDhero said:


I think I wasn't clear with what I meant. I know they're talking about the stalker, and until proven otherwise, I also think it's Rina's old manager. I assume that the two are connected. That he is currently taking pictures of Yayoi, and that means pictures of the two together. When Ogata asked her if there was anything between them, that was his way of showing his hand and letting Yayoi know of the depth of the situation if she fails.

Part of me believes that Ogata believes his sister to be as disposable as you say, but there's something nagging at the way he strings her along that makes me think he's only using her to cultivate Yuki. I could be wrong though, and he doesn't feel any way for her at all. Just my thought. I do agree that for Rina, this contest is only a lose/lose.

I understand his being emotional about what happened. I don't, however, understand his quickly going to "Touya won't forgive me." He was almost responsible for a man's death and though shaken, didn't seem to be too concerned with the father, but rather his relationship with the son.

I think the thought of Rina going to a competing agency is good, and at least does something with her on that front. She's been the character (besides maybe Haruka) that has remained motionless.

DeathfireD said:
Now that I think about it if the photos leak before the completion coming up it might cause Yuki to have a brake down since not only is Touya cheating on her with her own assistant but Rina is gone.

francismeunier said:

She already had a breakdown just by not seeing Touya until Eiji understood it then suggested to Yayoi to let Yuki visit Touya. That kiss probably cheered her up a little. Eiji needs to see that his coaching is not the best and I think Rina will prove to him by going with a rival production company.

DeathfireD said:


That wasnt a brake down. You'll know when you see a brake down ;)

soulelle said:
there's one thing I totally don't understand in this episode - what Yayoi meant when she told "That this love's over"/"The fact that the love is gone"
Did she refer to Touya/Yuki relationship or to Touya/herself relationship? According to the context that should be Touya/Yuki. But she said "Koi", not "Ai" there. And "Koi" is more of a sexual love rather than feelings. And this is pretty much confusing because they never had such a relationship! That kiss alone in the prev. episode was a big advancement. Well, maybe it's because Yayoi-san doesn't know what's "Ai" herself...

soulelle said:
Also, I'd like to state here that Touya has been in love with Yuki for all this time. He never felt a thing for Yayoi. She's nothing but a doll for him. He uses Shinozuka as a replacement for Yuki - nothing else. Moreover he just stated that once again himself in this episode: "My feelings are the same, therefore..." "I'm saying you're my goddess". Well, if you ask me whether it's good or bad... I'd reply with Yayoi's words: "You're a spoiled child". Touya really is. Well, I still believe it's because of his child complex. There must be a reason for such a behaviour. And the beginning of this episode just confirmed that there is one.

soulelle said:
Anyway, I'm not the one to judge the Touya's doings. But I think his character is actually very well-thought and projected. We might find him weird, but try putting yourself in his shoes and maybe you'll change your mind. To be honest I can't think of a single action he did totally lame, out-of-character, and unrealistic. Touya, and not only Touya, I'd say each character in this show behave very naturally and realistically. Just imagine you don't have internet and mobile phone. Yes-yes, imagine THAT: no blogs, no facebook, no MAL, no email, no IM, no SMS, no MMS, no GPS, no direct-person calling. And when you do.. I mean when you REALLY do, enjoy the realism of the White Album.

noteDhero said:
Finally, Touya is an idiot. Why is he talking to Yayoi about being thankful for seeing Yuki on Christmas Eve. he didn't seem to want anything to do with her not but a week later.