Fire Force
| Okay so how tf did Arthur kept up with Shinra in this fight, I call BS, season 1 put up some great potential but that's all gone just because of this BS fight, this is NnT all over again, where season 2 everyone strength is broken, don't tell me they'll introduced power levels now So for those who forgot, Shinra goes toe to toe with someone who can stop time but somehow Arthur can keep up in speed? BS Did he just pulled a Maka "courage" Albarn? |
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power of (false) belief makes Arthur stronger like he believes he is the king of knights  |
Sure but that's not how physics works inb4 it's anime Sure he gets stronger by strong false belief but physically against someone with that speed, NO, heck even precognition and prediction won't justify that crap, coz even if you predict someone's movement, if you're too slow it won't matter |
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| @YggdraSEED this show is soft science fiction and not hard science fiction (that concerns realistic science like physics) and besides Shinra is not as powerful when he fought his brother since he got no blessing from the evangelist this time via that Adolla Link |
| @deg still, he is too fast, was literally vanishing before their eyes, Arthur doesn't have the physical prowess for that even for this show's logic, added Shinra was 1. Fighting with a style Arthur just seen 2. It's safe to assume the possession powered up Shinra temporarily With these points we have the biggest insult in any battle shounen fight in history |
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| @treejoh okay so he dodged Sho, I get it with Shinra, he's literally a walking jet engine but Arthur? How? He has a light saber, what justify his physical speed? None And didn't Arthur got fodderized in season 1, Shinra defo way ahead of Arthur after season 1 yet this kinda crap still happens smh |
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| Arthur when in imaginative mode is always stronger, it's almost a joke in the series. It is similar to Tamaki's undressing joke. |
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| @treejoh lmao okay so he has a good eyesight, that means what? Ya know what don't answer that And about Ogun, it's an opinion, he doesn't have a Geiger counter or something to say oh yeah they're both over 9000, and he didn't saw Shinra's multiple fights in season 1 especially against Sho At this point I agree with most people here, it's nothing more than a gag like with Tamaki's lucky lecher, Arthur is weak, period, but if it's a gag, okay from now on I'll let it slide even if he pulls a deus ex machina for the last boss, I'm done taking this show seriously, just another Fairy Fail, never even like Soul Eater to begin with |
Haunt88Aug 1, 2020 1:12 AM
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treejoh said: @ YggdraSEED Arthur has been established as Shinra’s rival since his introduction lmao. Just cause you don’t like it doesn’t make it not true. And Ogun literally trained with them in the academy and broke up multiple fights that neither of them got the upper hand on each other, you’re just choosing to ignore these points lmao. Shinra barely increased in strength from season 1 to now anyway. His light speed is very conditional. Not to mention Arthur also trained with the same people and improved as well. Arthur is not weak by any means, Shinra has been getting bodied the past 3 episodes by a man without an adolla burst while Arthur is handling a pillar. Yeah, Shinra is one of the weakest shounen protagonists, Arthur is more naturally stronger and more lethal with the plasma sword. Even when Shinra manages to get stronger, Arthur is always 1 step up. |
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treejoh said: @Chanbara I wouldn’t say Shinra’s a weak MC, cause compared to his peers like Deku, Asta, or Tanjiro he’s clearly higher on the scale. I’d say it’s that Fire Force has a relatively balanced verse and it makes Shinra seem weaker than he is. Gotta remember that he recently became a fire soldier and never really had any training other than the academy. As the series grows he’ll grow too. Same with Arthur. True, you're right. |
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| @treejoh the show doesn't need to established they're rivals, pretty clear in op and ed and the show establishing it with Arthur's ass pulls, they aren't doing a good job that's all it is Ignore what points lol, they fought Ogun 2v1 big deal, and Shinra and Arthur fought yeah but it's a spar, that's not really an argument, coz at that point if they fought both blood lusted and going for the kill, Shinra would've been sliced to pieces, idk why you bring this irrelevant argument when my argument where past this events, Shinra's fights and him learning how to control his speed and Ogun's advice to him are AFTER all that training was over, see how irrelevant your argument is, them training was way past when Shinra got strong and improved his control and became even faster But my bad coz yeah Arthur is not weak, I take it back, that was definitely an overstatement BUT, man you can't deny the ass pulls of Arthur, there's no way he's stronger or even close to Shinra at this point, hence ass pull, he's a gag character, like come on, chuunibyou power? Tf lol |
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