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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Dang, the first half of the episode made me tear up a little inside. They even chose the soundtrack for the specific hospital scenes and Sora's dialogues. A very human and emotional episode if you ask me. When you consider the reality of how life is, it's a tough world to be in. Madoka also shows more of her tough side despite how broken she seemed. Thank goodness Chiaki showed up. |
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| What on earth is this anime anymore??? A hot mess that's just all over the place. Suddenly branching off into ten billion threads and trying misdirection on all of them (forgive the pun), only to pull the rug out from under our feet - after leaving everything as a cliffhanger... Crikey. |
| Man, that was a heartfelt and emotional first half right there. Intricate build-up with the grandmother stepping outside and then bowing, and finally Sora's mother apologizing - couldn't help but get teary-eyed in the midst of it. Sora holding back his tears after her passing away is kind of soul-crashing too. But I'm glad he managed to convey his final words in earnest. Madoka-sempai breaking down felt like a stab through the chest too. I would totally weep in that situation honestly. But then, those punks had to intervene, jeez. When life hits you down, it comes with a barrage and this along with the club room in fire and the loss to Sora in particular is testament to that. Good to see that Kite, on the other hand, is not calling it quits with this bunch just yet, which is fantastic. 1% is better than nothing, right? All in all, just the vibe from this episode and the direction between the different scenes was brilliant imo. |
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Blu7 said: Well, this is NOT "your"(plural) sports series. I wonder how many times we (manga readers) will say that. if you(plural) expect inter-high happy happy genki genki run run tournament tournament (considering your pun, I can see what "sports" series), that is the wrong meal and zone (forgive the pun too). As for me personally - I don't mind the kind of series where sports is more a setting/background and slice-of-life/drama become the actual genres. (A good recent example is Hoshiai no Sora: I absolutely loved that series, and it was mess of its own with its troubled production and all.) I'm not mad about the score here or the aftermath, if anything, that just makes the whole story more realistic. No; what I have an issue with here is that the direction is all over the place. Or maybe the writing, idk how all this unfolds in the manga, but what we have in ep33 here is way too much. One game dragged out way too long and one too many times (seriously? the shot made literally in the last moments is cut off?), and then we don't even get to see what happens after, because we gotta cut to the drama (which itself is all over the place with the stills of the doctor/granny inserted here and there, and both Sora and her mom going through a wide range of various states/emotions in a few short scenes), we gotta cut to the pity party where they're mostly moping until one of them snaps and goes AWOL, we gotta cut to the few who aren't even in the party, we gotta cut to flashbacks (personal where we see Tobi having his own little "episode"; and team too, because we just gotta learn the conclusion of a match we spent all these weeks/episodes watching from flashbacks, even though it only happened - what, hours? a day ago? I'm honestly lost even there), we gotta have fanservice scenes amidst all this, we gotta see Madoka and her sister talking out the death - oh yeah! that also happens btw, amidst everything else.... and then we also gotta see this same girl almost getting molested until she's miraculously saved by the one guy that went AWOL that just happened to be right there, and as they walk off into the sunset - oh wait that's not a sunset that's their changing room burning, let's call the others, quick, but make sure we also return to Tobi right here for the conclusion of his "episode". Way too much here that gets unpacked way too quickly, and then some of it even has to be wrapped right up. After "idling" so much on a single game, it now explodes with all the things that was stuffed into ~20 minutes, some which never even had any buildup, or what it had was just... not good. Like someone suddenly realised they have one episode to end the season (apparently not the case ofc) and this is the result. I like the series as a whole, but the last few episodes were getting annoying. Now this one really took the cake. |
| Dude so many things happened in this episode! I wonder how the next 17 episodes will even go now. Blu7 said: KanashiiSekai said: It'd be also more realistic to know what kind of disease she had, otherwise it sounds more like a plot device than anything else. Even though it didn't bother me that much, but I can understand people wanting to know about it. Oh yeah, I understand. It's just that when you read reactions such as "going to drop because they did not tell which disease", I cannot resist to toy with it. And for the score, I slightly disagree as I think that the "lie" of Sora works better in that way. But once again, this is true that I am a manga reader (French volumes) so for me, things are different as in the manga, the ellipse is part of the same chapter/volume that their exchange today. So, I couldn't feel any frustration as I knew the score immediately. The thing is like sometimes, people sounded as if they would NEVER show it. ; ) Isn't the thing that Kuratami's mom has is end-stage cancer? I'm not really sure, but from what I remember, they tried surgery on her chest area, but they realized they couldn't do anything about it, so they closed her up. I'm assuming that the cancer developed near her vital organs aka heart, lungs, etc., so performing surgery with that would be extremely risky. Also, it shows a lot that she's really skinny, and it's pretty much a fact that cancer gives you weight loss. She also felt pain in those areas (which she didn't show to not worry others). It's probably end-stage cancer on the chest from my deductions, though I'm no detective nor a doctor. Quick Edit: Just asked one of my parents, who's a doctor, about this, and she says it's most likely end-stage cancer. |
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| As they are now at the rock bottom they can only go up from here. I'm happy that Kenji's doubts were taken care of that fas0,t there is a lot to do in those 17 remaining episodes. I can understand the metaphor behind the fire as: a lot of bridges were burned that day to make a new start for them as each one separately and as a team. But what caused fire? Basically this is where this story truly begins. |
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| Feel bad for Sora because he has to deal with loosing the game and seeing his mother pass away. I wonder who set the boys locker room on fire? |
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| So much drama wtf xD he loses the match, his mother and the locker room, I would have killed myself if I was him |
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| Damn, this was the best episode till now, a rollercoaster of emotions |
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Blu7 said: First time that an episode of the series trended in Japan (well, essentialy Tokyo, but that makes sense). Nice! Before anime-only viewer wonder about cigarettes, keep in mind that there was censorship in the early episodes of the show as in the manga, it is clearly showed in the first chapters that Momoharu & cie are heavy drinkers and Momoharu a smoker (he even used to keep cigarettes in his locker). yellowheartren said: What on earth is this anime anymore??? A hot mess that's just all over the place. Suddenly branching off into ten billion threads and trying misdirection on all of them (forgive the pun), only to pull the rug out from under our feet - after leaving everything as a cliffhanger... Crikey. Well, this is NOT "your"(plural) sports series. I wonder how many times we (manga readers) will say that. if you(plural) expect inter-high happy happy genki genki run run tournament tournament (considering your pun, I can see what "sports" series), that is the wrong meal and zone (forgive the pun too). - Oh yeah, they finally show the final score, some people will be able to sleep better now. Oh shoot, I forgot, they did not say which disease Yuka had. That is so criminal...(irony) : ) Damn man you getting me hyped!! also, puoi parlare italioano?? Grandeeee, che Bello :) |
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Blu7 said: KanashiiSekai said: Oh yes, ok I didn't know people were so angry that they want to drop the show because of this. Yes, I can agree with this, that's why I though they didn't handle it poorly, but I must admit that I though it would be something like : We saw them loose, Sora is really depressed, dealing with his thoughts, and when his mom ask it about the game, he's forced to lie even though we saw him devasted. But it was still good. And there was a lot of frustration, but it's not too bad IMO, as anime are often used to promote the manga, maybe some went straight to read it, because I sure was about to do it, but I wanted to see this animated, and read the manga after the end of the anime. Where do you read the French volumes? How many volumes/chapters are out? I buy them as they are published in France (but under the commercial name of "Dream Team" ). There are 50 (under 51 so far in Japan) volumes published so far. And good news is that since May 20th, they started to release the digital version (Kindle, etc. 16 volumes so far but the rest should come monthly I think) yellowheartren said: Way too much here that gets unpacked way too quickly, and then some of it even has to be wrapped right up. After "idling" so much on a single game, it now explodes with all the things that was stuffed into ~20 minutes, some which never even had any buildup, or what it had was just... not good. Like someone suddenly realised they have one episode to end the season (apparently not the case ofc) and this is the result. I like the series as a whole, but the last few episodes were getting annoying. Now this one really took the cake. Ok Ok. I got it and may understand. As said someone else, I agree that there is a bit of "too much" into that series. That I cannot disagree and can understand how it can bother people as it mixes a bit too many genres sometimes not really a spoiler but I am cautious. But if it may reassure you, this is actually the real introduction of the manga (yeah, that was the author's statement itself) justasadguy said: Damn man you getting me hyped!! also, puoi parlare italioano?? Grandeeee, che Bello :) Yeah, diciamo che me la cavo ; ) Godoooooo, sono felicissimo che qualcuno parli l'italianooooooo Parlo sempre inglese su internet, è bello usare la mia lingua madre ogni tanto |
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| Whattttttt the mom actually died?? Damn. That scene where they were talking together was pretty heartbreaking I still think this show excels more in the drama/SoL side of things rather than the actual sport part. Like ok, makes sense that they wouldn't win everything after 1 month with an incompetent team, but I feel like the whole underdog somehow winning cliche is a moment where it works really well, rather than just being another forgettable generic moment |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| That's a big turning point, a lot happed this episode. I really didn't expect Sora's mum to actually die. The fire was expected the moment the lighter made its appearance. I never doubted Kite to choose this team over some obscure better chance in another school, but it still was very satisfying the way he said about betting on 1% and taking responsibility. Chiaki is now one of the coolest characters too. I wonder what the rest of the show will be like. I must admit, it started to become a bit tiresome to watch and the drama with Sora's mother was kinda uncomfortable. Sad for Sora, of course. But now that everyone has a new perspective and determination, there surely will be a change for the better. |
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| Why does it almost feel that the OPs were being shown to us in a reverse order at this point? OP 3 is the middle, and actually matched what happened in the episodes. 1 and 2 featured characters not even on the team. I always thought that was really odd. With the fire sequence happening now, clearly a flashback in OP 1, it just seems kinda odd. I know this most likely isn't the case, but it would be really cool if it was. |
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Ten said: That's a big turning point, a lot happed this episode. I really didn't expect Sora's mum to actually die. The fire was expected the moment the lighter made its appearance. I never doubted Kite to choose this team over some obscure better chance in another school, but it still was very satisfying the way he said about betting on 1% and taking responsibility. Chiaki is now one of the coolest characters too. I wonder what the rest of the show will be like. I must admit, it started to become a bit tiresome to watch and the drama with Sora's mother was kinda uncomfortable. Sad for Sora, of course. But now that everyone has a new perspective and determination, there surely will be a change for the better. Yeah, I agree with that. It was a very emotional pay-off, but the scenes with his mom got really boring. Now with that out of the way, I'm more excited than ever for what this series has in store. Btw they teased the fire and much more in the very first OP didn't they? Maybe they planned to have only that one opening. Kinda weird thinking back. |
| I didn't think they would go all in with the sadness, a defeat AND a death?! On top of that A FIRE!!! OMG, I hope it wasn't Momoharu's fault, in case he didn't put out his cigarette properly before binning it... Even Madoka, who was already affected by her friends defeat and Sora's loss, had to be harassed on top of that! GIVE THESE KIDS A BREAK! At least Tobi showed us that not just his skills are on point, he's a loyal boy too! In spite of being hard to deal with sometimes. |
| That coach was just being an ass, trying to break up their team by trying to recruit Kite, and then calling the entire team worthless. I thought he was a good guy when he talked to Sora's mom. |
Dudi4PoLFr said: I can understand the metaphor behind the fire as: a lot of bridges were burned that day to make a new start for them as each one separately and as a team. But what caused fire? Probably the lighter they had |
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| After all these episodes, they loose their game, not what I expected but ok I'll take it. Kinda felt sad when Sora was with his mother but just that, I know in that part I was supposed to be crying but it didn't work at all, (I admit I'm a heartstoned guy, but some animes made me cry before). It was kinda disgusting the part when Madoka was about to get assaulted but good thing our afro dude Chiaki was around to beat the crap out of those idiots. And what came right out of nowhere was that fire, with all the shit Sora has to take I suppose this is gonna be a breakpoint for him. |
| No tomo malas decisiones, solo me gusta apoyar causas perdidas. Disfruté Mayoiga, Ou-sama Game, Evil or Live, Mirai Nikki, Big Order, Arifureta, Ex-Arm, Tesla Note, Shuumatsu no Harem y Platinum End nope les falle con esa, lo siento pero todos tenemos nuestros límites. Así de jodido es mi gusto en anime, ¡Y estoy pinche orgulloso de ello!  |
| freaking smokers, nothing good ever comes from that, and this is one example LOL i can't believe they burned the club room after feeling super bad for Yuka for 5+ episodes, this one wasn't even that sad... oh well, rip, we can finally move on, guess that's what happens when you put too much time into the same topic... couldn't her sister leave Madoka closer to home? that scene was kinda... Like Tobi said "this shouldn't even be a question" but sometimes you end up staying with your friends (or promisses) instead of chasing the best choice, i wonder if he will not regret it lol 17 episodes to go, i wonder what comes next, and if we will have a second season for the future tournaments, as i'm sure they won't do it in just 17 episodes when this game took 7... |
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| If I wasn't dead inside atm I would've cried for sure when Sora and his mum bawled their eyes out. The fire was too much though. It didn't feel right right now. But let's see. I am enjoying it a little bit more atm |
 ►"The deeper the darkness the more dazzling the light shines." ◄ ►"As you live you lose reasons and hope. But as you keep on going, you pick up new reasons and hope."◄ ►"If I don’t stand up here… If I don’t reach higher here… When am I ever going to do it?"◄ |
| For the people asking about the fire, it was probably that lighter they bought. |
| they went and taken the mom out! smh |
AddaeAkono said: Feel bad for Sora because he has to deal with loosing the game and seeing his mother pass away. I wonder who set the boys locker room on fire? Lots of Foreshadowing in the episode, the 4 idiots left the cigarettes lit Cant believe she was killed off without giving him the bracelet & final words were both of mother & son lying to each other |
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| Did Kite burned the club so he couldn't go back then accepted the coach's offer? |
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YggdraSEED said: he didnt accept the offerDid Kite burned the club so he couldn't go back then accepted the coach's offer? |
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RW0 said: xSayumi said: The fire was too much though. It didn't feel right right now. But let's see. I am enjoying it a little bit more atm How? spoj said: I was really hoping this show was going to do something different with the tragic parent backstory for a change. I guess they had to resort to cliche. I still love it for the sports stuff and this show definitely does the hype vibe better than most sports anime. But it is disappointing that they built up a parent character so well and even provided a potential route for her to recover and contribute to the team and then it didn't happen.... Waste of an opportunity. Why do authors resort to using the same thing as everyone else to create drama? What? There arent many sports anime that show a parent dying, as the series goes along, only other one i can think of is Major. Also, I dont think many sports anime show the last conversation a mother has with her son....very NOT typical for the genre at all. what do you mean with "how?" o: why I am enjoying it a little more? Maybe because they actually lost and didn't win for the plots sake. I didn't expect it |
►"The deeper the darkness the more dazzling the light shines." ◄ ►"As you live you lose reasons and hope. But as you keep on going, you pick up new reasons and hope."◄ ►"If I don’t stand up here… If I don’t reach higher here… When am I ever going to do it?"◄ |
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