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Apr 17, 2020 10:16 AM
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Yup, I think this is an important episode due to Mu finding out the origins of the war from many years ago.

And for Echo, he's really going to need all the help he can get in this show. Those trio of girls are definitely a group to watch out for. I'm also quite curious about what sort of important role Mu will play in this timeline though.
Apr 17, 2020 11:36 AM
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Yay another episode, hopefully we get some answers as to what happened at the end of last ep

We get some interesting backstory about the earless and noise. We also get introduced to two really cool new characters. “Jimi” is a clear Hendrix reference, respext

“Mu, I want to see the world with you” awwwww I ship them so hard

True Crimson v AC30 was pretty dope

Overall nice episode, things are starting to come together and we’ve got a clear goal to work towards. Can’t wait to see where it goes from here. One of my fave shows of the season with some old school Jetix vibes
Apr 17, 2020 11:54 AM
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Great episode, Mu and Echo's relationship is getting stronger and AC30 is amazing !! i'm really looking forward to the next episode
Apr 17, 2020 11:57 AM
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Continuing the same level of average and trope-y. Lmao at the random english tho.

Also: "Hey it's me guy who hasn't left his room in 4 years. What do you mean there's a random 15 year old boy here? Well shit, better go introduce myself!"

And: "Here is my deeply personal story about how I will not ride as a player anyone. You want to have a sparring match? Hell yeah I'm down!"

Okay, maybe I can forgive the second one because they were not going out in the field for real.
Apr 17, 2020 12:06 PM
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Still don't get the metaphor/reference in this anime. Are they mention classic rock songs? Are players resemble real-life legendary musician? This show is just like Cell at Work but instead of cell, we're looking at electric parts of amplifier.
Apr 17, 2020 1:03 PM
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The first two episodes were ok-ish I would say. The first one was a decent set up, the second was a bit more interesting with the illusions and stuff. This one though, very weak. A lot of exposition. History in a fictional world is important, but this episode just told a tiny bit of history trivia about some very uninteresting and not special event that happened long ago. The dialogue is kind of bad also, probably not helped by Mu. So far, the boy has some personality and is consistent (yes, his personality is just being an enthusiastic wimp, but at least there is something). Mu on the other hand? The most boring tsundere, I guess. The developement of her personality boils down to the amnesia card. Sure, there is a hint of a conflict inside her, but the set up wasn't good enough, so the whole thing felt forced. I guess this is why this show now has like a 6.2 overall score as I'm writing this. I personally lean on the 6 side after this episode.

Also, the naming of the mecha was lame and made no sense. The special move was meh. I get it that some shows have things like this, but a good show make these moves special in some way. An excelent show makes the special moves such that I am excited when I see them finally coming up. This show has that kind of approach on special moves that makes me roll my eyes. (It seems like a show for 5 year olds in this regard.)

Finally, for a show called Listeners, the soundrack is quite unremarkable. I personally can't remember one moment when the music piqued my interest.

Conclusion: The creators came up with a premise, exposed it in the first episode, and then they didn't know what to do next so they just did something. I think that episode 4 would be decisive. If it manages to feel more uneventful and unnecessary than this one I will simply drop it.
Apr 17, 2020 1:12 PM
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Looks like the first two episodes were more to set up what the world is like, and a basic premise. Before throwing a story at us in this episode, which is good to see.

Though, honestly didn't expect giant fighting music players lol. But it's still fun to see, cannot wait to see what who they meet further along.
Apr 17, 2020 1:34 PM
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Mirod_the_best said:


Finally, for a show called Listeners, the soundrack is quite unremarkable. I personally can't remember one moment when the music piqued my interest.


I couldn't agree more. Why even bother referencing really great bands and then having the actual music suck so bad? They're barely even trying to rip off the bands they mention (too bad because that would improve the music substantially if they just blatantly copied stuff).

I'm really quite surprised that this show got made. It doesn't have a built-in audience from a LN or manga, and there's not enough pandering to fans of older rock bands to get that crowd. A lot of younger people won't even know a lot of the bands mentioned so far.

This is at best a 5 for me so far. And a real disappointment.
Apr 17, 2020 2:27 PM
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That was a good episode, the name's AC30, I like its new powers.
I look forward to see the next players
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Continue reading at your own risk: contains spoilers!

Idk if the story is slow or bland, but to me, the premise is still interesting enough to keep watching.

Lots of English text to refer to old rock songs, but they don't really stand out. At least not at JoJo levels. And I wonder if it is enough to keep teenagers hooked to the show.

Naming the macha after a famous VOX AC30? Mmmh... Only important thing is that the hotter the amp is, the better is sounds. For more info on it, see https://reverb.com/news/tips-and-tricks-for-getting-the-most-out-of-your-vox-ac30. Ow, we already saw the 2 input modes of the amp: normal and brilliant.

Here's list of users of the VOX AC30, for those interested: http://www.c3605.de/VOX/info-pool/bands-and-musicians-plying-an-ac30/

And teen spirit with that background, so Nirvana's next.
Apr 17, 2020 3:44 PM
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Eh, what a pretentious slog. Dropping it for now. Will maybe resume after it finishes airing.
Apr 17, 2020 5:07 PM

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"Fill me with your Kiss" CRINGEEEEE

Jesus can we stop with all the English musical innuendos please. Like I'm okay with one per episode but jesus they are beating this like a dead horse. We get it YOU LIKE MUSICAL ARTISTS.

Outside of that this anime is just not good.

They're shocked to see Mu and Echo go Green and are stating the power is Stronger then Jimi yet they over power Mu and Echo.

Awesome.
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Apr 17, 2020 5:17 PM

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What is "Chelsea Girl" supposed to mean?
Apr 17, 2020 5:27 PM

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Overall impression: Perfectly serviceable. Nothing exciting. Really that's kinda the shame of this anime, I've seen shows with more problems, but it just kinda is missing that spark that makes it really worth sticking with. I've stayed here because unlike some of the other shows this season it never had a moment that made me go "yeah, this isn't working for me", but I'd struggle to say I'm really invested, I feel like I'm here hoping it'll connect and it's just not quite doing so.

Oh, but the preview for the next episode makes it a lot easier to decide whether I want to continue. Why the fuck would you take a setting like this and have a high school episode, even if it's just one episode (presumably)? I'm reminded of when Seraph of the End had the high school in the post-apocalypse for some fucking reason.
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Apr 17, 2020 5:55 PM

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I don't know why i didn't notice until this episode but the soundtrack in this series is pretty great, i'm loving the guitar tracks in the background in this episode. Probably one of the reasons i'm sticking around so far.

I can't say i'm any more invested in the characters, and the plot and action in general are still pretty bland. This was easily my favorite episode so far, and the glimpse of the player vs player fights that could happen in the future have me more excited than anything with the earless. I really don't feel like they made the earless menacing enough to be the "enemy of humanity" that they're made out to be.
Apr 17, 2020 6:51 PM

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And that's a drop for me. Hopefully there's a major turnaround for this show that will inspire curiosity enough for me to return to it, but I can't get with what I'm being given so far. Disappointed on this one.
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Apr 17, 2020 7:26 PM
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This show is weird but I don't hate it, I find it oddly intriguing for now. Hope it comes together the further it goes along.
Apr 17, 2020 8:02 PM

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Nothing amazing but the Mecha action was alright. I feel slightly bias to this series as I am a musician and a sucker for references, but this show still comes across as lackluster. Apart from the musical references I'm not sure what else I'm expecting to get out of this series, the plot is muddy and the characters forgettable. Had high hopes for the setting but it's quite one-note for now. Looks like the next episode will be a change of pace though!
Apr 17, 2020 8:21 PM
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Wow I hate the dialogue. It was said earlier but I agree it's an absolute slog to sit through.
Why did we have to stuck with the most uninteresting characters when all the other players at least look a bit unique in comparison.
I must missed the part where Mu got so attached to Echo that now she's all sad about losing him.
Apr 17, 2020 8:23 PM

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I'm wondering why Jimi is called Jimi. That word means boring and plain in Japanese.

They added baby fat in an adult man's cheeks. That was a terrible design choice.

Apr 17, 2020 9:13 PM
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FuMomo-kun said:
I'm wondering why Jimi is called Jimi. That word means boring and plain in Japanese.

They added baby fat in an adult man's cheeks. That was a terrible design choice.



It's just a reference to a rock legend called Jimi Hendrix. That being said, I can see how fans of classic rock get hyped at all the references this show throws at you, but for the non-fans they are just gonna seem random, like all the engrish in this episode.

Next episode is gonna be school life. A fitting Nirvana title if you ask me!
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What an exciting episode! An unexpected combatant drives away the witches and our heroes get some much-needed upgrades for their robot. We also get some insight about what happened during the war, but I guess we have yet to learn the full story. Overall, this was a fun episode for what is shaping up to be a fun show. I'm really liking the direction the show is taking and I can't wait to see what happens next.
Apr 17, 2020 9:26 PM
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This is painful to watch, dropped.
Apr 17, 2020 9:29 PM

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I can't say I enjoyed this as much as I enjoyed Episode 2, but hey, I'm just a sucker for world building.

I'm sorely disappointed these battles aren't more... musical? Music seems to be the central theme of the whole show and yet the sound design thus far been average.

That OP is still a bop though.
Apr 17, 2020 9:41 PM
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Jimmy Hendrix<Pink Floyd<Funkadelic
And i'm not even black.
Anime should really look into other music culture besides rock after araki basically patented the idea into most watchers.
Oh and Lmao ost is basically non-existent in an anime about music.
Apr 17, 2020 10:01 PM
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I like Kevin and Ms. Bilin, they were nice characters to have.

It's nice that we have direction now, though I'm hoping we actually get to see more about the world and stuff, because at the moment it feels kind of empty.

I liked that fight at the end, and I'm glad our heroes lost, since we can't be too op right now.

Seriously Echo, I like everyone but you at this point. You're watching footage of Miu in mortal danger, and your reaction is "awesome" or something like that. You're positive vibes are bringing down man, try to be more sensitive.

Liked the scene in the open sky, and everything else about this episode, except for Echo being insensitive of course
Apr 18, 2020 12:50 AM

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Well, I'm enjoying this as opposed to most it seems. Now it seems we're finally getting a sense of direction now, already had some pretty good worldbuiling and it's only early. Wish anime would stop with the Engrish though lol... 7-8/10
Apr 18, 2020 5:08 AM

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Pretty good episode. Mu and Echo grew closer, that scene where Mu kicked Echo was sweet lol. Those two new players were nice people. I'm liking this show so far and I hope this gets better with every episode.
Apr 18, 2020 6:12 AM
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What's up with the Engrish all the time, lol?

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What is "Chelsea Girl" supposed to mean?


It's a reference to an album by Nico, a former member of the Velvet Underground. It's also the name of a film by Andy Warhol, but considering that all references are about rock music, I'm pretty sure it's the former.
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Apr 18, 2020 7:48 AM

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The first good episode so far. I liked that they focused more on the chars and the background. Though I guess next episodes will be a "x of the week format". x = one of the guys that participated in that old "Fest" where something went wrong. Getting infos about the Jimi Stonefree guy (maybe father of Mu?).

Engrish is cool but didn't feel funny and didn't really fit here.

In the past episodes I did not recognize the reference to "Einstsürzende Neubauten". Here Bilin (Billy) and Kevin Valentine referred to real people.

Also the Engrish lines seem to be from some lyrics (or album name and stuff like that) from "My Bloody Valentine". ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Bloody_Valentine_(band) )

Edit: Jimi Stonefree from "Jimi Henddrix" of course. Did not know about the "Stone Free" but Jimi Hendrix is popular and the name I recognized so I had to google it in combination with Stonefree.
Apr 18, 2020 8:41 AM

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An interesting episode; the characters are starting to feel a little more fleshed out. It'll be interesting to see how they clash and grow.

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As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are.
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Apr 18, 2020 9:10 AM

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I feel like they should've just made the plot about Echo collecting autographs. LOL

The mecha aspect is okay, I suppose. Next episode title is based off Nirvana I'm guessing. It seems like it'll be a bit more interesting since they will meet even more characters.
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Nice that they have some goal now. Really wish mecha designs were better, not really fan of them. They are quite forgettable
Apr 18, 2020 12:42 PM

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I couldn't get into it. I felt like mu was a bit forced on the crying part wish I felt a deeper connection but this was a bust for me. Eek.

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A little bit of equipment tinkering, powering up, some training. Time to rock and roll baby!!
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VA Nana Mizuki of the new supporting character = too OP of course...
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Apr 19, 2020 1:13 AM
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"Fill me with your Kiss" CRINGEEEEE

Jesus can we stop with all the English musical innuendos please. Like I'm okay with one per episode but jesus they are beating this like a dead horse. We get it YOU LIKE MUSICAL ARTISTS.



I believe it should have been 'Feed Me With Your Kiss', another reference to a song by My Bloody Valentine.

Kevin and Bilin Valentine were designed based on Kevin Shields and Bilinda Butcher of My Bloody Valentine. Their mecha, Sue, is after another MBV's song Sueisfine. Their techniques like "I Can See It (But I Can't Feel It)" are also based on MBV's songs. The title card for this episode is a tribute to the cover of MBV's 'Loveless'.

Dunno, as a rock fan, I'm loving this anime so far. It's just so cool looking at the designs inspired by musicians and songs that I love.

The creators love musicians? Yes, that's the whole point! They want to make something out of the things they love!

Young anime fans do not know them? Well, if they're interested, then they can try find and learn about the musicians! That would be great instead of just being spoonfed things they already know anyway.

Next episode should be interesting too.
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Apr 19, 2020 9:27 AM

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This anime is like a merger of American Pop, Heavy Metal magazine and Mecha anime. Its a bizarre but pretty cool show.
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icblues said:
SoraSenpai said:
"Fill me with your Kiss" CRINGEEEEE

Jesus can we stop with all the English musical innuendos please. Like I'm okay with one per episode but jesus they are beating this like a dead horse. We get it YOU LIKE MUSICAL ARTISTS.



I believe it should have been 'Feed Me With Your Kiss', another reference to a song by My Bloody Valentine.

Kevin and Bilin Valentine were designed based on Kevin Shields and Bilinda Butcher of My Bloody Valentine. Their mecha, Sue, is after another MBV's song Sueisfine. Their techniques like "I Can See It (But I Can't Feel It)" are also based on MBV's songs. The title card for this episode is a tribute to the cover of MBV's 'Loveless'.

Dunno, as a rock fan, I'm loving this anime so far. It's just so cool looking at the designs inspired by musicians and songs that I love.

The creators love musicians? Yes, that's the whole point! They want to make something out of the things they love!

Young anime fans do not know them? Well, if they're interested, then they can try find and learn about the musicians! That would be great instead of just being spoonfed things they already know anyway.

Next episode should be interesting too.
Freak Scene Academy must be after a song by Sonic Youth. Kim must be inspired by Sonic Youth's Kim Gordon. The title and the title card are inspired by Nirvana. The character Hole is probably inspired by Hole.


The guy Jin who is the creator of this anime did Mekakucity Actors as well so music has played a Big Influence in his anime.

And yeah I think something got lost in translation with that quote.
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Apr 20, 2020 1:46 AM

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The world-building is slowly getting better: the epilogue to the prologue about the Players and the Earless, more explained this episode.

The powers that are the reminiscent inspiration of music in real life (with creator Jin onboard), it can't just be mere coincidience and is a major part of this show, which is slwoly starting to grow on me.

Saved by the Valentines, former Grand Master Bilin and assistant Kevin, Echo and Mu settles in. And finally naming his amp AC30, Echo reaffirms his passion with Mu to go forth.

The mecha battle was kinda OK though, though it seems to hammer the thought of a musical mecha battle (which can go both ways), plus that cringey Engrish.

This show made me realize there's more than meets the eye, and willing to continue onward.
Apr 20, 2020 4:10 AM

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Not sure what to think of this show to be honest, it just feels bland and nothing really stands out to compel me to continue watching.


I am the same. Seems like a decent concept but I don't fully understand the mechs working?
Apr 20, 2020 4:14 AM

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Ok, so another episode and we have not that great moment yet telling us "this is going to be awesome". The soundtrack in the other hand, it's improving and finally we can start to see why this it´s called as it´s called. However I really hope to see a little more speed in story. It´s a 6 so Far
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I'm the only one who fells that this episode was at x1.25 speed? Everything seems a bit... fast.

Also, if you aren't really into music (I'm not) all the references are just random words, and even if you understand them, I think they still fell like random things "because music".
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Dialogue is indeed pretty corny, but I stick with this series to see how they handle plot.

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This episode seemed an important one- we learnt about some history of this world and why the mayor of liverchester hated players so much. We also met two new characters that are really interesting and unique, both rich in personality and backstory. What's also good is how the two main characters had a bit of conflict, but managed to overcome it maturely and work together!
Apr 24, 2020 12:45 AM
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Cringeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. That random english they threw, ugh (if those were music references, sorry but I don't really like it).


I won't drop this yet.
Apr 24, 2020 2:02 AM
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This is... pretty bad.
Won't drop it yet, the real problem is that the series isn't doing anything to entertain nor interest the viewer in into continuing the series. The animation is lucklaster at best (and horrible at worst), human relationships in the series are totally uninteresting and, to make the bad worse, the OST is generic (and the anime is teoretically about music lmao.
also, the engrish was cringe as f*ck
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I just know this show was pretty much made for me. Because unlike some, I GET the music references, and the amount of easter eggs in the background of every single episode so far have been a nerdgasm of joy to see.

And referencing a band like My Bloody Valentine like they did was beyond amazing. They're digging deep for some of this stuff, and I adore it.
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Mirod_the_best said:


Finally, for a show called Listeners, the soundrack is quite unremarkable. I personally can't remember one moment when the music piqued my interest.


I couldn't agree more. Why even bother referencing really great bands and then having the actual music suck so bad? They're barely even trying to rip off the bands they mention (too bad because that would improve the music substantially if they just blatantly copied stuff).

I'm really quite surprised that this show got made. It doesn't have a built-in audience from a LN or manga, and there's not enough pandering to fans of older rock bands to get that crowd. A lot of younger people won't even know a lot of the bands mentioned so far.

This is at best a 5 for me so far. And a real disappointment.


b..but they dance in the opening, its enough, right? but yeah, im in the same boat, nothing remarkable in terms of music, and sometimes non-exstant. That's unfortunate, i really like listening to nice sounding music (who doesnt lol)

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Overall impression: Perfectly serviceable. Nothing exciting. Really that's kinda the shame of this anime, I've seen shows with more problems, but it just kinda is missing that spark that makes it really worth sticking with. I've stayed here because unlike some of the other shows this season it never had a moment that made me go "yeah, this isn't working for me", but I'd struggle to say I'm really invested, I feel like I'm here hoping it'll connect and it's just not quite doing so.

Oh, but the preview for the next episode makes it a lot easier to decide whether I want to continue. Why the fuck would you take a setting like this and have a high school episode, even if it's just one episode (presumably)? I'm reminded of when Seraph of the End had the high school in the post-apocalypse for some fucking reason.

You perfectly described how i feel. I feel like i can enjoy this anime more and expected to like it, but... It's just plain boring, i don't see the reaason for watching it. It doesnt even feel nice to watch and we only have 2 characters, others just feel episodic.
I can't connect to characters or the story at all!!! i can't find myself to care about anything that's happening, which is damn sad, because i feel like i'm watching, understanding it wrong, it's reassuring seeing that others are in similar position as me :S

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Seriously Echo, I like everyone but you at this point. You're watching footage of Miu in mortal danger, and your reaction is "awesome" or something like that. You're positive vibes are bringing down man, try to be more sensitive.

Liked the scene in the open sky, and everything else about this episode, except for Echo being insensitive of course

Same, Echo is kinda a parety pooper right now :( but he looks like the type of character who start as the worst and becomes the best, so lets hope.
On the other hand, I took liking to your analysis of Echo haha, that made me smile for a bit :)

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I'm the only one who fells that this episode was at x1.25 speed? Everything seems a bit... fast.

Also, if you aren't really into music (I'm not) all the references are just random words, and even if you understand them, I think they still fell like random things "because music".

Glad, i'm not the only one noticed that it felt very fast... Usually there is a small pause, little delay when a character finishes his line, but in this episode, there was no pause, they just spoke right after each other. Very very weird, i don't think i've ever seen this.

You are not alone on your take on references, it's just empty words to me. I love looove music, but i dont really care about their composers and history (i'm a terrible person -_-)
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This is... pretty bad.
Won't drop it yet, the real problem is that the series isn't doing anything to entertain nor interest the viewer in into continuing the series. The animation is lucklaster at best (and horrible at worst), human relationships in the series are totally uninteresting and, to make the bad worse, the OST is generic (and the anime is teoretically about music lmao.
also, the engrish was cringe as f*ck

imagine being mentally retarded like this person and spittling peepeepoopoo wherever you walk
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