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Mar 10, 2020 7:19 AM
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Finally, now we're getting the showdown between Orphen and that assassin. I wish they made me feel more invested into Claiomh as a character in this show but whatever. At least they made it clear that she's an important person in his life.

And that assassin of course isn't a pushover when it comes to fighting.
Mar 10, 2020 8:23 AM
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Stark700 said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Finally, now we're getting the showdown between Orphen and that assassin. I wish they made me feel more invested into Claiomh as a character in this show but whatever. At least they made it clear that she's an important person in his life.

And that assassin of course isn't a pushover when it comes to fighting.


agree, Orphen love Claiomh the most and his sister Azalie kidnapped her because of that. Claiomh is a good character, and i'm still waiting for eps about her personality and her relationship with Orphen.
anyway good ep, i love the fights.
Mar 10, 2020 8:39 AM
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Poor animation during the fight but it was still enjoyable, good episode, I really want to see what Orphen is going to do with Azalie, I think he must take his revenge on her for everything she did.
And I agree, I want to see more of Claiomh, maybe for the next episode
Mar 10, 2020 9:10 AM
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Hmmmm what's the book Majic pick up
Mar 10, 2020 10:48 AM
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The fight between Orphen and that assassin was settled with Orhen's victory.

Mar 10, 2020 1:35 PM
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Well, that's it for the assasin........What the fuck was that book that Majic picked up??/
Mar 10, 2020 4:55 PM
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A wild guess that with the Tower of Fangs, Master Childman had too many people wanting to be Sorcerers, and as is with Orphen, the alter-ego assassin and his own misunderstandings, the consequences thereafter reshaping the current landscape. That I did not see it coming, even in the original series 20 years ago.

At long last the fight descends...but the core of the problem is still Azalie and her ways of exacting revenge through the Krylancelo "killing doll" to defeat Orphen, more than kidnapping Cleo. As much as partners are concerned, Azalie is more than a danger with Cleo on the side.

What's that book that Majic found by the wayside, and what secrets does it entail?

Finally a good episode.
Mar 10, 2020 6:17 PM
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Damn these threads are ghost towns now lol... Better episode than the last few, animation was still... very Deen.. but seeing Kyrancelo and his sister's confrontation was very sad.

Looks like this'll be a very quiet death for this show.
Mar 11, 2020 10:13 AM
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At least Orphen had a strategy this time
Mar 14, 2020 1:41 AM

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Orphen such an SJW lol can somebody spoil me if he ended up with Azalie
Mar 14, 2020 5:10 PM

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YggdraSEED said:
Orphen such an SJW lol can somebody spoil me if he ended up with Azalie

According to wiki he married blondie
Mar 14, 2020 6:09 PM

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bastek66 said:
YggdraSEED said:
Orphen such an SJW lol can somebody spoil me if he ended up with Azalie

According to wiki he married blondie


Dammit, frick this half assed mc
Mar 15, 2020 7:29 PM
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YggdraSEED said:
bastek66 said:

According to wiki he married blondie


Dammit, frick this half assed mc


Cleo is the cutest, Azalie is evil.
Anyway... Orphen love Cleo.
Mar 15, 2020 10:25 PM

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ChenChan2020 said:
YggdraSEED said:


Dammit, frick this half assed mc


Cleo is the cutest, Azalie is evil.
Anyway... Orphen love Cleo.


That's such a generic end

Would have been nice if a SJW protagonist ends up with a nihilistic antagonist
Mar 16, 2020 5:05 AM
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YggdraSEED said:
ChenChan2020 said:


Cleo is the cutest, Azalie is evil.
Anyway... Orphen love Cleo.


That's such a generic end

Would have been nice if a SJW protagonist ends up with a nihilistic antagonist


The idea is that Orphen will love someone who makes him happy. He's a tough person, it's nice to see how Cleo makes him softer.
Mar 16, 2020 5:42 AM

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ChenChan2020 said:
YggdraSEED said:


That's such a generic end

Would have been nice if a SJW protagonist ends up with a nihilistic antagonist


The idea is that Orphen will love someone who makes him happy. He's a tough person, it's nice to see how Cleo makes him softer.


And that idea is generic, an idea that has been used so many times, and yes I know this is an old series, and even then this idea is NOTHING NEW, generic af
Mar 16, 2020 7:39 AM
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YggdraSEED said:
ChenChan2020 said:


The idea is that Orphen will love someone who makes him happy. He's a tough person, it's nice to see how Cleo makes him softer.


And that idea is generic, an idea that has been used so many times, and yes I know this is an old series, and even then this idea is NOTHING NEW, generic af


I think it's adorable... Cleo is pure and that what Orphen need.
Mar 16, 2020 2:47 PM

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YggdraSEED said:
ChenChan2020 said:


The idea is that Orphen will love someone who makes him happy. He's a tough person, it's nice to see how Cleo makes him softer.


And that idea is generic, an idea that has been used so many times, and yes I know this is an old series, and even then this idea is NOTHING NEW, generic af

Of fucking course it's not new. It's LNshit from 90s when some clichés were just formed. Genericness was created back then.
Also who would want that cunt Azalie?
Mar 16, 2020 6:16 PM

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bastek66 said:
YggdraSEED said:


And that idea is generic, an idea that has been used so many times, and yes I know this is an old series, and even then this idea is NOTHING NEW, generic af

Of fucking course it's not new. It's LNshit from 90s when some clichés were just formed. Genericness was created back then.
Also who would want that cunt Azalie?


I'm saying it's generic even back then, has been used even the late 80s, learn how to comprehend what u read smh. who would want Azalie? I mean maybe 90% of the world who's tired of generic love interests like Cleo? Oh I conveniently tamed this high level monster, conveniently met the mc, conveniently travels with mc, conveniently falls in love with mc, i could go on forever lol

"Tomboy" yeah right, can't even get a proper tomboy, why he even call her that, she has zero quality of a tomboy, even as far back as the 80s no one would call that a tomboy lol

Azalie so evil reeeee talk about political correctness, ur hate just means she's a well written antagonist

Heck I ain't even talking about that, I'm simply talking about a subjective ship yet y'all so agressive

Stop forcing your opinion on me, Azalie is 10 times better written than Cleo
Mar 16, 2020 6:23 PM

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who would want Azalie? I mean maybe 90% of the world who's tired of generic love interests like Cleo? Oh I conveniently tamed this high level monster, conveniently met the mc, conveniently travels with mc, conveniently falls in love with mc, i could go on forever lol

"Tomboy" yeah right, can't even get a proper tomboy, why he even call her that, she has zero quality of a tomboy, even as far back as the 80s no one would call that a tomboy lol

Azalie so evil reeeee talk about political correctness, ur hate just means she's a well written antagonist

Heck I ain't even talking about that, I'm simply talking about a subjective ship yet y'all so agressive

Stop forcing your opinion on me, Azalie is 10 times better written than Cleo

Doesn't matter how written she is (by the way light novels are trash level of writing). She is awful human being, regardless it's in-universe perspective or meta. Why do you even see her as love interest for Orphen? She doesn't love him romantically, she treats him like younger brother. Why are even bringing up political correctness? Japan never gave a shit about it, especially 20 years ago.
Stop being such pathetic selfinsert. Orphen and Claiomh marry, have 3 daughers and live happily.
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Mar 16, 2020 7:57 PM

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bastek66 said:
YggdraSEED said:
who would want Azalie? I mean maybe 90% of the world who's tired of generic love interests like Cleo? Oh I conveniently tamed this high level monster, conveniently met the mc, conveniently travels with mc, conveniently falls in love with mc, i could go on forever lol

"Tomboy" yeah right, can't even get a proper tomboy, why he even call her that, she has zero quality of a tomboy, even as far back as the 80s no one would call that a tomboy lol

Azalie so evil reeeee talk about political correctness, ur hate just means she's a well written antagonist

Heck I ain't even talking about that, I'm simply talking about a subjective ship yet y'all so agressive

Stop forcing your opinion on me, Azalie is 10 times better written than Cleo

Doesn't matter how written she is (by the way light novels are trash level of writing). She is awful human being, regardless it's in-universe perspective or meta. Why do you even see her as love interest for Orphen? She doesn't love him romantically, she treats him like younger brother. Why are even bringing up political correctness? Japan never gave a shit about it, especially 20 years ago.
Stop being such pathetic selfinsert. Orphen and Claiomh marry, have 3 daughers and live happily.


So you love goody characters and hate evil characters, blunt logic but okay

Unrequited love can't be a love interest? Um? What? Love interest doesn't have to be mutual hence the word unrequited, do u even know what is a love interest smh and I'm supposed to be the self insert here when you couldn't even understand such basic social emotion lol

I brought up PC coz you're using PC to justify your opinion

Again, I'm being subjective on this ship thing, I don't even like Orphen, the guy is an SJW, your ship won, grow up
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Mar 17, 2020 2:31 AM

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I brought up PC coz you're using PC to justify your opinion

Again, I'm being subjective on this ship thing, I don't even like Orphen, the guy is an SJW, your ship won, grow up

Where did I use PC to justify my opinion?
I don't care about shippingshit. It's pure cancer especially when fanbase is big as SnK or BnHA or 5toubuns.
Mar 17, 2020 5:03 AM
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YggdraSEED said:
bastek66 said:

Doesn't matter how written she is (by the way light novels are trash level of writing). She is awful human being, regardless it's in-universe perspective or meta. Why do you even see her as love interest for Orphen? She doesn't love him romantically, she treats him like younger brother. Why are even bringing up political correctness? Japan never gave a shit about it, especially 20 years ago.
Stop being such pathetic selfinsert. Orphen and Claiomh marry, have 3 daughers and live happily.


So you love goody characters and hate evil characters, blunt logic but okay

Unrequited love can't be a love interest? Um? What? Love interest doesn't have to be mutual hence the word unrequited, do u even know what is a love interest smh and I'm supposed to be the self insert here when you couldn't even understand such basic social emotion lol

I brought up PC coz you're using PC to justify your opinion

Again, I'm being subjective on this ship thing, I don't even like Orphen, the guy is an SJW, your ship won, grow up


I'm just saying, that Orphen need a pure and cute girl with him as Cleo,
YggdraSEED said:
bastek66 said:

Doesn't matter how written she is (by the way light novels are trash level of writing). She is awful human being, regardless it's in-universe perspective or meta. Why do you even see her as love interest for Orphen? She doesn't love him romantically, she treats him like younger brother. Why are even bringing up political correctness? Japan never gave a shit about it, especially 20 years ago.
Stop being such pathetic selfinsert. Orphen and Claiomh marry, have 3 daughers and live happily.


So you love goody characters and hate evil characters, blunt logic but okay

Unrequited love can't be a love interest? Um? What? Love interest doesn't have to be mutual hence the word unrequited, do u even know what is a love interest smh and I'm supposed to be the self insert here when you couldn't even understand such basic social emotion lol

I brought up PC coz you're using PC to justify your opinion

Again, I'm being subjective on this ship thing, I don't even like Orphen, the guy is an SJW, your ship won, grow up


I'm just saying Orphen needs someone who is cute, pure and funny with him like Cleo. He suffered enough, it time to get him out of sadness. Azalie makes him hate himself, sadness and anger.
Mar 17, 2020 6:13 AM

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Wait... now Orphen left the Tower because of the 13 Sorcerers and not because of the Dragon... This is getting convoluted by the minute, this was exactly one of the problems of the previous adaptation.
Mar 17, 2020 9:28 PM

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Azalie AGAIN?!!!!!
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Mar 22, 2020 4:56 AM

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Wow so Orphen's willing to kill people to save Claiomh. The fight was okay.
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While the assassin's revelation was consistent, I think that is a bad retcon, earlier it had been said that Orphen left the Tower cuz he needs to search the Dragon/Azalie, now its cuz he violently attacked another person.
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So Azalie was involved in this after all by using a Killing doll. Seems like she still thinks Childman was trying to kill her using Orphen. I'm a bit confused by the messenger being killed by Orphen thing, hopefully that gets cleared up in the next few episodes.

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