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Jan 6, 2020 4:17 AM
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This will continue as a trend now as expected and it starts with Miku. The last of anything meaningful from Miku I guess.

Leaves a bitter feeling of how all the talks of fairness, hardwork, honesty and improving oneself have been put to shame. Those who followed this manga closely can never accept Yotsuba winning like this. Even if they were in for Yotsuba.

The chapter is less than okay. But that was because of Miku being Miku. Oh well.

3/5

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Jan 6, 2020 6:34 AM
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I dont see any problem with yotsuba winning. What exactly is wrong with ending. Fyi- I followed manga closely.
Jan 6, 2020 7:03 AM
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I have already pointed it out in my post above and in other posts before this thread. It shows that you and many others were "reading it" which is not the same as closely following it. Negi killed his own narrative from Fuutarou's POV by making Yotsuba the winner ahead of Miku and Nino. I would have no problem should she have won AFTER she changes. Not like this. It's poor writing.

This is coming from someone who predicted a Yotsuba win and have had her as their second choice.
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Jan 6, 2020 1:21 PM
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Miku proving that she will always be the best girl, the best waifu and the best possible choice ♥
Jan 6, 2020 1:22 PM
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Miku proving that she will always be the best girl, the best waifu and the best possible choice ♥
Jan 6, 2020 2:29 PM
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This chapter was done not because Miku needed to relief herself, but she knew Yotsuba was conflicted about Uesugi's feelings and how her sisters felt about him. Miku was basically showing Yotsuba "despite all, we are still sisters", just like when Yotsuba failed in their last school.
Jan 7, 2020 5:47 PM
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Feel so sad for Miku, but at least she’s finally learned to love herself.
Jan 7, 2020 5:51 PM
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Welp the chapter felt short (cause of me reading it fast and wanting more), overall felt “meh” in this chapter since at the end Miku just let herself be and I guess somewhat, accepted?.. that she won I guess which has me thinking that he (author) should have at least made Yotsuba change and then declare her the winner but instead just made her the winner automatically even though there are better candidates such as Nino and Miku, I’m disappointed, but I know that at the end once this is finished I finished a pretty decent story that has had me on my toes every week wanting more
Jan 7, 2020 6:28 PM
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I'm mostly sad this manga is coming to an end..
Jan 7, 2020 7:22 PM

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Ok, so now we've got "If you're fine with Yotusuba winning, you were never paying attention and aren't a true fan."

The salt you guys are displaying is absolutely hilarious. xD

Jan 7, 2020 7:27 PM

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Nice Miku and Yotsuba made peace. Miku was sweet in this chapter.
Jan 7, 2020 7:29 PM
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Miku is able to channel her anger at Yotsuba and throw away Yotsuba's lookalike ribbon at the end
Jan 7, 2020 7:32 PM

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shanimebib said:
I have already pointed it out in my post above and in other posts before this thread. It shows that you and many others were "reading it" which is not the same as closely following it. Negi killed his own narrative from Fuutarou's POV by making Yotsuba the winner ahead of Miku and Nino. I would have no problem should she have won AFTER she changes. Not like this. It's poor writing.

This is coming from someone who predicted a Yotsuba win and have had her as their second choice.


Yes and No but mainly no.
I still feel like the series was on the verge of getting haxed (or he was going too slow idk) so they told negi to hurry it up, so he dropped the yotsuba's flashback to set in stone who was going to win and then started writing the last painfully slow final arcs without having time to make her have the "change" she needed.
I say, "set in stone" yots winning because since the start, negi, wanted her to win and I think you can tell based on how he writed her at the start of the series (having her become the funny sidekick that helped fuutaro) to then write as the glue that hold them (the quints) back and together at the same time and finally writing her as the martyr for love before the "big reveal" (which if you read back the entire story you can see it coming from miles away).
If there's one thing you may say had no foreshadowing or sense in this series is ichika's evil side outta nowhere. Still mad about it.
Jan 7, 2020 7:42 PM

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shanimebib said:
I have already pointed it out in my post above and in other posts before this thread. It shows that you and many others were "reading it" which is not the same as closely following it. Negi killed his own narrative from Fuutarou's POV by making Yotsuba the winner ahead of Miku and Nino. I would have no problem should she have won AFTER she changes. Not like this. It's poor writing.

This is coming from someone who predicted a Yotsuba win and have had her as their second choice.


Yes and No but mainly no.
I still feel like the series was on the verge of getting haxed (or he was going too slow idk) so they told negi to hurry it up, so he dropped the yotsuba's flashback to set in stone who was going to win and then started writing the last painfully slow final arcs without having time to make her have the "change" she needed.
I say, "set in stone" yots winning because since the start, negi, wanted her to win and I think you can tell based on how he writed her at the start of the series (having her become the funny sidekick that helped fuutaro) to then write as the glue that hold them (the quints) back and together at the same time and finally writing her as the martyr for love before the "big reveal" (which if you read back the entire story you can see it coming from miles away).
If there's one thing you may say had no foreshadowing or sense in this series is ichika's evil side outta nowhere. Still mad about it.


WHAT?! You are wrong. WSM wanted this to go on. This is WSM's most prized manga. Negi was at his limits. There is direct connection how thing escalated since the birth of his daughter and everything became lackluster that started with his interview how he envied long running series, having huge admiration of mangaka with long running serialization etc.
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Jan 7, 2020 7:56 PM

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Damn Miku came a long way, she is finally able to like who she is and not be others. Yotsuba was also bold enough to say what her feelings are.

Miku finally moved forward, glad it wasn't all buddy buddy he chose you I will accept it crap instead we got her being angry and frustrated that her feelings didn't reach him, but it could have been done better by showing more of Miku and Fuutarou moments, so we'll get this kind of chapters from other Quints as well, hope they're well written

Still hoping something would happen in the four years before the marriage and we get a harem end
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shanimebib said:
Gintoki2495 said:


Yes and No but mainly no.
I still feel like the series was on the verge of getting haxed (or he was going too slow idk) so they told negi to hurry it up, so he dropped the yotsuba's flashback to set in stone who was going to win and then started writing the last painfully slow final arcs without having time to make her have the "change" she needed.
I say, "set in stone" yots winning because since the start, negi, wanted her to win and I think you can tell based on how he writed her at the start of the series (having her become the funny sidekick that helped fuutaro) to then write as the glue that hold them (the quints) back and together at the same time and finally writing her as the martyr for love before the "big reveal" (which if you read back the entire story you can see it coming from miles away).
If there's one thing you may say had no foreshadowing or sense in this series is ichika's evil side outta nowhere. Still mad about it.


WHAT?! You are wrong. WSM wanted this to go on. This is WSM's most prized manga. Negi was at his limits. There is direct connection how thing escalated since the birth of his daughter and everything became lackluster that started with his interview how he envied long running series, having huge admiration of mangaka with long running serialization etc.


While I'm not so sure about "WSM's most prized manga", I'm going to take what you said for true, as it doesn't really change anything.

I answered your post saying that you were wrong about saying it was just "poor writing" having her winning, yet you concentrate on another part of my post.
Maybe you weren't "closely following" on that.

I would have enjoyed more chapter with her renewed self too, with her standing up and stating her feelings to her sister openly, but, still, Yotsuba was written to be the winner from the start, I would've liked nino myself and before, the evil flip, even ichika, but I'm not going to be salty and rude about it, just because my favorite one didn't win, because that's just pathetic man.
Jan 7, 2020 8:21 PM

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Okay, cool story bro. :)

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Jan 7, 2020 8:54 PM

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Don't give me this bullshit I just want the reason as to why yotsuba deserve to win? U can give me this crap later.

Also, this is my final wish but let's hope that we won't get any of Miku from now on heck even Nino too cause every time I see them I just begin to hate negi more and more. also, please don't show them with any other men
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Jan 7, 2020 9:16 PM

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ehh. nisekoi 2. no surprise here. one ship sunk. i don't see why it's that bad. it just painfully obvious. at least it's quick and give miku high end of character development.
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Jan 7, 2020 10:28 PM

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I still really like this series but holy shit I can't just get over the shipwreck. I personally and easily say that Gotoubon no Hanyome is my favorite harem. I might feel annoyed at the fact that (if) Nino loses, just at least let the others girls' parts to end on an amazing note. Also, to keep the manga's quality as good as before, Negi must redeem all of the views he created as of the past volumes yet keeping the story to end well. I just want to get a justification that Yotsuba deserves to win at the end. An average chapter nonetheless.



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Jan 7, 2020 10:46 PM

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Here is the salt mine bois.
miku chill about it and boost her condifence even more, fan angry.
nino pushing yotsuba to not annoy uesugi and embrace their feeling, fan malding.

finest grain salt.
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evoniee said:
Here is the salt mine bois.
miku chill about it and boost her condifence even more, fan angry.
nino pushing yotsuba to not annoy uesugi and embrace their feeling, fan malding.

finest grain salt.
#teamfumino btw

Enough salt to give a small nation a heart attack.

I think this chapter was fine, not great, but not terrible either, just fine, the real problem is that no matter what negi does people are going to be angry, and unlike the anime ending of bokuben, there's no real excuse here outside of being annoyed that either your pairing didn't sail, or it being rushed, and so far it seems fine to me with the pacing.

Also #teamfumino, hard to say what path bokuben will take, though i have a striking suspicion that uruka is out of the race due to the anime ending, but time will tell on that.
Jan 8, 2020 5:34 AM
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The problem with these chapters is that it all feels like a excruciating epilogue after Futarou made his pick known. The ,a gala should have given Yotsuba much, much more page time and develop her more before coming to this. No point in doing it now.
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Jan 8, 2020 5:53 AM
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Omg hiw can yotsuba win, miku and nino had far more fan than other and they even appeared in more chapters than others. It makes no sense. I will ignore all the discomfort fuutarou felt while being around nino or how indifferent he was towards any romantic attention He got from nino amd miku.

Nope fuutarou is not a character he is a fucking trophie and the ones with most fan should win it by default.

The lack of any explanation from any side(defending or attacking) in this sub suprises me. Of you want to critise then better see how a valid criticism is put forward from reddit sub of gotoubun than just being salty
Jan 8, 2020 7:19 AM
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I enjoyed this chapter. I'm glad Miku called out Yotsuba for leaving Futarou dangling, not for selfish reasons, but because Futuaro and Yotsuba should be happy together right now!
Miku coming to terms with her feelings and moving on was bittersweet. She is sad she wasn't picked, but she's glad she met Futarou as he was the driving force for her to be a better person and changed her for the better. I was super sad that Miku wasn't picked, but you fall in and out of love in your life and have to take away what that person meant you even when it's over. I guess the next 3 chapters will be the same with each sister getting her "own" chapter then a final arc of Yots and Fut getting together and hopefully the full wedding too.
Jan 8, 2020 7:28 AM

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Great chapter for Miku. I am still surprised Yotsuba won though I like her character. I never thought she had a chance until her backstory was revealed.
Jan 8, 2020 9:10 AM
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Bit of character development for Miku
She finally likes herself she has come long way from the shy girl with a inferiority complex

I have also seen many people who followed this closely predicted Youtsuba would be the wife . Also people have reread from the beginning even say it
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Decent chapter. I'm still sad that I have to decrease the overall score of what was my favorite harem after Kami Nomi but Negi, unfortunately, threw all of the build-up and narrative out of the window for romantic development.

People can call me salty all they want but the fact is that Yotsuba was my 2nd favorite after Itsuki so I'm not mad at the fact that she won, it's just the way it was executed.

The manga's name is "GOTOUBUN NO HANAYOME" which means "5 EQUAL BRIDES", which is a lie for everything that this manga stands for because it was never about 5 equal birdes.
Jan 8, 2020 7:23 PM
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Could be that Yotsuba really deserved to win, but as character she is very behind of Miku and the others, that is what i think, even when is easy to raconize her victory, still feeling wrong.
Jan 8, 2020 8:37 PM
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Well, most reader do not agree with Fuutarou's choice and everything what mangaka can do now is to trying to prove that Yotsuba being the winner is okay. So everything will feel pushed and awkward. Yotsuba was the 4th or 5th popular Quint (before mangaka broke Ichika's character) by most of the readers and minority of them thought that she will win in the end. So now we will get a few more chapters with things being "meh". Well I found out that in spite of myself previously waiting eagerly for new chapter of 5toubun, now I'm just "Oh, new chapter? Guess I can read" and don't really care about anymore. Guess I will still be a bit bitter for this outcome (was hoping for Miku, being okay with Nino or Ichika before you-know-what)
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Why does Negi have to disrespect all the development he gave to Miku? This doesn't feel fleshed out in as to why Yotsuba is the true winner and I'm seeing more fans being pissed about it, since Yotsuba wasn't one of the top two main favorites. Hell, I'd argue the top three were between Miku and Nino, with Itsuki trailing behind. This just seems hamfisted writing that is rushed with no real spine to hold the reasonings for his decision on best girl.
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i had tears in my eyes reading this chapter, miku was always my last favorite quint but now i can finally say i love her so much, her story was incredible, when she trew the ribbon away i was so proud of her.

my girl yotsuba had some amazing expressions here
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I'm seriously on Nino, mentioning nino gives me a chill of what she gonna do in her chapter next. Miku is a bit off for me in this chapter, i understand you guys for rooting miku but this chapter is kinda frustrating its a new side of miku i see. I can't endure yotsuba gets cornered because of her sister just thinking themselves for one guy. im on nino but on this volume i will really side with yotsuba. more cornering and drama next chapter i will broke into pieces. Till the end Itsuki has zero development at all, feels disappointed I'm actually has main heroine complex so deep in me wanna see itsuki joins the ship but it submerged forever
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Honestly not a huge of Yotsuba. Her character development been dull and blah when the others had obstacles to overcome them. They came out better. Choosing Yotsuba was pointless
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The problem with Yotsuba is that she never grew as a character. As I said, Negi maybe wanted to let Yotusba win, I am not against that, but he did not have the time to develop her character, all feels rushed. We can notice that in the last two chapters where Yotsuba stills the same from the beginning even after saying that she changed a few chapters back. While the rest of the Sisters evolved and demonstrated some growth, she stills frozen, and her traits still the same from chapter 1. That indicates that at some point, the real plot twisted, and the decision was to finish the manga as quickly as possible.

From a narrative perspective, a teacher once told me that if you grab a character and if it hasn't any substantial change emotional and in the personality, then the character is not well elaborated. Grab Yotsuba from the first chapters; she is the same. On the other hand, grab the other sisters, Miku changed, Nino changed, Itsuki changed, and Ichka changed too.





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Find it funny people are either making alt account's to complain or they made a account just to complain lol πŸ˜‚

Also people need to get over the fact that this was never going to have a harem end.
Jan 9, 2020 11:20 PM

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The past few chapters have been decent.
Jan 11, 2020 11:31 AM

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Find it funny people are either making alt account's to complain or they made a account just to complain lol πŸ˜‚

Also people need to get over the fact that this was never going to have a harem end.


Yeah, this fanbase is a complete dumbster fire now unfortunately.

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I'm mostly sad this manga is coming to an end..
same...πŸ˜₯πŸ˜“
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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This will continue as a trend now as expected and it starts with Miku. The last of anything meaningful from Miku I guess.

Leaves a bitter feeling of how all the talks of fairness, hardwork, honesty and improving oneself have been put to shame. Those who followed this manga closely can never accept Yotsuba winning like this. Even if they were in for Yotsuba.

The chapter is less than okay. But that was because of Miku being Miku. Oh well.

3/5

I agree 100%. Exactly how I feel
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Truffle_Butters said:
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same...πŸ˜₯πŸ˜“
Sad Miku noise huwaaa
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Miku vs Yotsuba at karaoke.
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Nice Miku chapter.... and yotsuba
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Well I'm glad that Miku is doing well...although I'm kinda bumped that I'm reading the final chapters :(
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I feel this kind of part is unnecessary, just bring a happy end come on
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Everyone complaining about bad writing because their quint lost or they couldn't see enough signs that Yotsuba will be the one.
Am I the only one that sees bad writing in Miku not knowing any songs even though she is always carrying  her headphones? What is she listening to then? Only option this is not bad writing is if she is only listening to some calssical music from Sengoku Period and doesn't know anything more modern, but it was never stated. Now that I think about it the only time we could see her with headphones on was in first volume, on the roof.
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