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| Wow, first episode was great! Very interesting and liked the characters too. LOL at how #6 came floating down XD. Hope the rest of the series will be as good as this episode! EDIT: Totally recognized Rio's voice in that teacher person XD |
EvianBubbleJul 13, 2010 7:39 PM
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| Why does this anime feel like Scooby-Doo? |
noteDhero said: I'm not sure that I could disagree with anyone any more on something. Sora no Woto was good only because of its setting. In the vein of K-On, it uses the Slice of Life genre as an excuse to do absolutely nothing, then decide to have the world's most cliche story for 3 epsisodes, and not do it well. No characters were well developed (because that would imply that they were characterized or developed at all), and the show relied too much on over-used stereotypes to make up for the laziness with which the characters were presented. The largest example of how the show exists only to pander to lonely otaku fanboys who've never touched a woman is the episode centered around a...wait for it...pee joke. Top that off with the ridiculous boob grabbing toward the end, and the show petty much just ends up as a piece of garbage. Night Raid is indeed a mess, but it's definitely better than Sora no Woto because it strives to do something different and succeeds in many areas. If this show is made by the same producers, I might have to be more wary than I anticipated, because I won't lie when I say the production is part of the reason why I enjoyed this first episode. Gahh, and of course tomorrow must be beginning of my military service...feh. I won't have time for long internet debates soon. Oh, and it's off-topc anyway *cough* Short answer: the "plot" did not come out of nowhere in last 3 eps, it was always there in the background. And I certainly wouldn't call it the "world's most cliche" story anyway. Making end thematic replay (instead of literal) of myth told in first episode was great move that reinforced existence of show's "mythical arc" that's always there, just ouf of focus most of the time. Not to mention they twist the whole thing around in final ep, in part subverting all we've lead to think about fire maidens legend etc. beforehand besides, Macross end is the best end (and certainly not the most common one in the book) :D As for characters all I can do is ask did we really watch the same show. Rio undergoes most major development that's largerly unemphatized (which makes it all the more better and ep 10 all the more greater), Kanata goes through your archetypical development of a hero. Noel at the end is notably different person from the one in beginning of the show who manages to resolve her character conflicts - she develops the most of them all, from certain point of view. Kureha too goes through her idolization of "Desert Wolf" by end of ep 9. Only one who is relatively static is Filicia whose only personality conflict is the re-emergence of PTSD symptoms in ep 7 and which are dealt during the span of same ep. SnW's cast ain't the original one in the lot but to claim they had no development or characterization is hyperbolic and blatantly false. The largest example of how the show exists only to pander to lonely otaku fanboys who've never touched a woman is the episode centered around a...wait for it...pee joke. It was indeed ridiculous joke episode but it more played for lulz and less for fanservice. OVA is the fanservice fest in all possible ways from delicious kimono Yumina to "lesbian subtexts" being played up for laughs. You can tell they had fun doing it. Oh, and Kobayashi got to sing too :D Top that off with the ridiculous boob grabbing toward the end, and the show petty much just ends up as a piece of garbage. *gasp* Fanservice shot? IN MY ANIME? Unforgifable garbage! Seriously now, talk about overreaction. Night Raid is indeed a mess, but it's definitely better than Sora no Woto because it strives to do something different and succeeds in many areas. Funnily enough I'd use those words SnW tough it's "striving to do something different" is admittedly relative. Same holds for Night Raid too. As a history buff the setting of Night Raid is what has sold it for me so far. Take that away and we get show with terrible sense of directing and pacing and clumsy characterization. I've only seen up to ep 6 though - it might get better after that. In fact it's been decent for last 3 eps (but first two were absolutely terrible. No sense of pacing or storytelling in general whatsoever) Back on topic: Occult Academy's certainly best series to come out this season so far. Too bad I won't be able to follow it properly due to military service but I'll watch the whole thing one day, even if it turns to shit because I hate dropping things. :P |
Xardie said: Gahh, and of course tomorrow must be beginning of my military service...feh. I won't have time for long internet debates soon. Oh, and it's off-topc anyway *cough* Short answer: the "plot" did not come out of nowhere in last 3 eps, it was always there in the background. And I certainly wouldn't call it the "world's most cliche" story anyway. Making end thematic replay (instead of literal) of myth told in first episode was great move that reinforced existence of show's "mythical arc" that's always there, just ouf of focus most of the time. Not to mention they twist the whole thing around in final ep, in part subverting all we've lead to think about fire maidens legend etc. beforehand I didn't say it came out of nowhere in the last three episodes. I said that it decided to have a story for three episodes. The 1st episode was promising in that it was the only one that focused on the mythos of the show. After that, however, it terribly went through every passe construct of bad slice of life besides "lost cat" and "hot spring" episodes. Then, they spent maybe a minute every few episodes sprinkling in the thought that "hey, this is war, and it's actually sad." The idea of a mistaken prophecy being the cause of war is not subversion. It was just an excuse for the deus ex, happy-happy love ending the show got, which tied up little to nothing. Then, I could go on with how terribly music was approached as a convention of the show (especially the glassblower magically teaching Kanata the ability to play), but it all just goes back to the fact that the show was lazy on every level of design besides the opening song and background art. As for characters all I can do is ask did we really watch the same show. Rio undergoes most major development that's largerly unemphatized (which makes it all the more better and ep 10 all the more greater), Kanata goes through your archetypical development of a hero. Noel at the end is notably different person from the one in beginning of the show who manages to resolve her character conflicts - she develops the most of them all, from certain point of view. Kureha too goes through her idolization of "Desert Wolf" by end of ep 9. Only one who is relatively static is Filicia whose only personality conflict is the re-emergence of PTSD symptoms in ep 7 and which are dealt during the span of same ep. What development did Rio go through? She got a call, worried, and then left everyone. We saw nothing from her. They definitely hinted that something was supposed to be going on, but since this was all through Kanata's perspective, we never saw it. She changed overnight with no explantion. Exactly what would be the archetypal development that Kanata went through? For anime you mean? Where the character is magically good and rises to the occasion despite being somewhat talentless and mostly a failure because of compassion? Sure. She did develop. I'll point back to her getting good at the cornet as my main example. Noel was the only decent character, but because her story was shoved to the back burner for 'more important' characters, she ended up with the least amount of characterization, facilitating her to be able to change and grow the most with little question. I won't say anything was above average there besides the potential in her back-story. Kureha is a naive bitch and she stays that way. Felicia doesn't deal with her PTSD (if you want to call it that, I'd just call it learning that war isn't for irresponsible children). They just introduce it, have her be introspective, have a flashback, go to a festival, and then that's it. You'd think that that sort of past would inform her relationships as a leader, but she's absurdly lax to her subordinates. Then, I'd point to the last few episode (boob grabbing) to show that they were very quick to not even consider her character given a lot of her actions. SnW's cast ain't the original one in the lot but to claim they had no development or characterization is hyperbolic and blatantly false. Definitely hyperbolic. But to say that they are poorly realized and terribly developed because of a story that doesn't care to actually be about them as much as Kanata making sex faces while peeing on herself or with a fever, or fondling breasts in the middle of an immediate crisis is not false at all. OVA is the fanservice fest in all possible ways from delicious kimono Yumina to "lesbian subtexts" being played up for laughs. You can tell they had fun doing it. Oh, and Kobayashi got to sing too :D I didn't watch it because I was sure that it wasn't going to be my cup of tea after watching the show, and it seems I was right. *gasp* Fanservice shot? IN MY ANIME? Unforgifable garbage! Seriously now, talk about overreaction. It wasn't a shot. It was the entire point of a scene. Considering the fact that the show spent the 7 or 8 episode doing nothing but fanservice, to interrupt the little major conflict of the entire show to do that was egregious. Funnily enough I'd use those words SnW tough it's "striving to do something different" is admittedly relative. Same holds for Night Raid too. As a history buff the setting of Night Raid is what has sold it for me so far. Take that away and we get show with terrible sense of directing and pacing and clumsy characterization. I've only seen up to ep 6 though - it might get better after that. In fact it's been decent for last 3 eps (but first two were absolutely terrible. No sense of pacing or storytelling in general whatsoever) I'm on episode six also, and I have far fewer problems with Night Raid than I did with SnW at the same point. I believe that around that episode we might have had the pee joke (episode 7 maybe?) and definitely the terrible glass blowing episode. Night Raid absolutely has pace issues, and I think I had a serious problem with one of the episodes, but for me, Night Raid has humor (which SnW failed at), and a plot that intrigues me (SnW didn't). Also, the character designs are better, and I enjoy the level of production more as it seems more cohesive. Back on topic: Occult Academy's certainly best series to come out this season so far. Too bad I won't be able to follow it properly due to military service but I'll watch the whole thing one day, even if it turns to shit because I hate dropping things. :P Well, it sucks that you have to leave in the middle like that, good luck with your service. I think I'm missing one show, but I have expect something decent from this and Shiki. |
noteDheroJul 11, 2010 1:16 PM
noteDhero said: Back on topic: Occult Academy's certainly best series to come out this season so far. Too bad I won't be able to follow it properly due to military service but I'll watch the whole thing one day, even if it turns to shit because I hate dropping things. :P Well, it sucks that you have to leave in the middle like that, good luck with your service. I think I'm missing one show, but I have expect something decent from this and Shiki. Thanks :) You're free to reply to me, of course, but I'm not sure if continuing this OT-tangent any longer is wise and I won't have time to reply anyway in ages (and this topic is propably long dead by when I actually might have time to reply) |
| I had to do a double take on that penis shadow. lol Instantly have the hawts for Maya, I love her complex, she's my kind of girl. Hopefully some pantsu fanservice in the near future. |
| interesting but Maya dresses like a slut, doesn't seem to fit |
| @Xardie I would retort, but since you don't have time, there's no point. Also, you misunderstood a few of my points because I was careless in proof-reading. |
| Interesting episode. Maya is quite a character. Good cliffhanger, let's hear more about this new guy. I liked how the Waldstein Sonata was one of the background music tracks. |
| This show is the shit maya is a beast I like the feel of the show kinda dark with some pretty funny events. |
| horror comedy... its pretty interesting.. about the 1st ep, many funny moments until the naked man came down from the sky and his "thing" casts a shadow on Maya's face.. ROFL... |
| This anime has a lot of potential... definitely going to keep watching this... |
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| Lol this promises to be fun, that female lead is hot as hell. And OMG the snot xD |
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| Starts interesting, some strange jokes, I think I'll like it. |
Zahlzeit said: Why does this anime feel like Scooby-Doo? omg i couldn't phrase it better. i was starting to think why it reminds me of an american cartoon when i read your phrase and i was like that's it!! i didn't like this at all! am i the only one that really really finds this horrilbe so far?! :S And that's an understatement.... it was a chore to watch... i'll drop it from now, i don't think i can take another episode of this! It is the first time that I watched anime and felt bad about it and immature, like I was 4 or 5... which felt weird for my brain cells...(even worse than Heroman! O.O) I hope anime will stay away from this kind of norms... i don't want it to turn into tv series for kids.. |
JusticeUndoneJul 17, 2010 6:35 AM
“In a mad world, only the mad are sane.”Akira Kurosawa  |
Zahlzeit said: Why does this anime feel like Scooby-Doo? It's the girls with the glasses. You do have a point though. Anyway that was kind of strange. It had a weird way of developing. It could become really interesting or complete crap. It's not like the other undead anime this season that has clear intentions. That dress,that dress, THAT DRESS!!! Along with her high stockings and crossing her legs, she was a real cock-tease. |
| I loved the first episode, the atmosphere is great. And Maya has such a great personality so far. |
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| Best funeral ever! And awesome entrance ever! |
| The girl with the glasses is like Velma. D: Anyway, that was wonderful. I'm looking forward to more of this. |
| Didn't feel any excitement, or what while watching it, I was like meh all the way until this unknown entity of a guy showing a shadow if his pen*s and Maya's reaction that I manage to put meaning why I'm watching it |
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| I was really looking forward to this, but I thought it'd be a let down considering that's the general way things go. Instead I got something completely different which far surpassed my expectations. Looking forward to catching up with this and Maya is awesome! That ED is very cute also. |
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| I like it. I don't LOVE it. Pretty funny ending sequence... her face was priceless... |
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| It looks pretty good so far. |
| The last scene was way too random! XD I love the ending theme though.. |
| lmao why didn't I watch this earlier??!! xD I usually never read the synopsis because I don't really want to know what I'll watch so it's more fun.. I love supernatural/fantasy-stuff .. but I wouldn't really consider this horror.. it was more funny than actually being scary.. but I really enjoyed it.. =) will definitely continue watching~ |
Perplex said: This first ep was...weird. Sometimes very gloomy and sometimes moronic like scooby-do. As if the show itself doesn't know what it want to be. OrochiPL said: Seriously, that's the biggest dissapointment of this season as for now. I felt like watching some cheap western cartoon, jokes weren't funny, and art somehow annoys me. The best part of this episode - Maya's "wtf" face when she saw that naked guy at the end. 2/5 for this ep. Agreed with these two...I normally love occult things, but this was cheesy as hell and not even close to being scary (nor funny IMO, for that matter). The mood, characters and style really put me off. Good to see most people seem to have gotten a lot more out of than I did...but, yeah, not for me. |
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Elfana said: true :DHAHA! The end was so funny xD |
| lightness vs. darkness Nani mo kamo wo hoshigatteita Mayoeru mono no chikai Mada miru sekai o tsukuridasu koto Kuchi hateteiku |
| Just one ep and I already like Maya. |
| I'm watching this for Maya only. |
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| damn watching this episode again after almost a year and all i can say is epic. spoiler ahead: just wish the rest of the series was as good as the first two episodes it got so boring afterwards. heres to wasted potential....cheers! |
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| I liked Sora no Woto and I liked Senkou no Night Raid. But episode 1 of this, well...mc pissed me off, direction seems clumsy in some parts (that scene where mc is above the coffin, come on) and generally the story is very confusing. I don't know if I'll continue to watch this, in the meanwhile if someone is interested in some of the anime from Anime no Chikara like those 2 I cited before: watch them first, because this seems mediocre almost completely. The "almost" is because of this: It's a very well done op, and the song is great. |
chiraleJan 1, 2013 12:00 PM
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| That was actually a good start for this series.. Just wondering now why it has a low score. Anyway, let's see.... |
| This sure was an epic first episode! Just enjoyed pretty much everything from beginning till end! Really nice pace and quite the cliffhanger as well! Lets see what this Anime has to offer! |
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| Great.. I love the setting.. very beautiful. So many funny scenes.. I can't take it seriously lol. That last glimpse of the guy falling from the sky is pure win.. I can see a sausage in the shadow. Can't wait to see the girl's reaction. |
| Had she screamed at the end, it would be too cliched. |
| "If you reject me, I'll blast a hole in you!" Kanzaki H. Aria Just kidding.  |
| That was really awesome and interesting. Maya is awesome. That end though LOL! |
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Bellus said: This was quite a pleasant surprise. Definitely looking forward to more of this, to see how this turns out. :) also towards the end when the guy came down from the sky you could see his penis in the shadow, made me laugh.;p Boy finally I found someone who actually noticed it :D And that definitely was a nice expression; made Maya look like an old lady :D |
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| Don't cocky just because your're a bit posessed, lol. I actually quite like the premise and the tone, hope the story can overall deliver. |
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| I hope this anime can nail the balance of comedy and seriousness but we shall see. I like that Maya kinda reminds me of Kiryuuin Satsuki. As long as the anime doesn't have some bs hidden romance in it... it should be interesting. That ED tho... good stuff |
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| This anime is already really outlandish and eccentric, fitting for being about the occult. Some naked guy descends from the heavens at the end of the episode too. What an entrance XD |
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| Looks interesting.Punchy animation and psychic thriler with a bit of lewdness at the end |
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