This Director did Rinne's Lagrange and Toaru Hikuushi

TitanAnteus said:
So Rinne's Lagrange is a lesbian mecha anime with forced feels. Not a fan of the show. The romance stuff was pretty bad, and the emotional stuff didn't feel earned.
Toaru Hikuushi No Koiuta is flying anime with this big drop around the end where like 70% of the cast dies. This show's fantastic. Because a lot of the shit getting real happens around the end, there's enough buildup when shit hits the fan. The romance here is also not very good :/

I think he likes trying to make watchers feel negative emotions. He's also not very good with romance. He did direct Moonphase and that anime's romance is also terrible.

TitanAnteus said:
So Rinne's Lagrange is a lesbian mecha anime with forced feels. Not a fan of the show. The romance stuff was pretty bad, and the emotional stuff didn't feel earned.
Toaru Hikuushi No Koiuta is flying anime with this big drop around the end where like 70% of the cast dies. This show's fantastic. Because a lot of the shit getting real happens around the end, there's enough buildup when shit hits the fan. The romance here is also not very good :/

I think he likes trying to make watchers feel negative emotions. He's also not very good with romance. He did direct Moonphase and that anime's romance is also terrible.

RobertBobert said:
@hack5 One of female MC is only 12 years old and the show does not have a romance tag. Of course it will be yuri. Any show with two MCs of the same gender is a qeer romance, that’s obvious.



You are confusing the director and screenwriter. Secondly, Rinne never had a "lesbian show", the authors at the very beginning said in an interview that they initially wanted to create a yuri story, but then decided to avoid any romance at all. Female MC and large doses of fanservice baiting don't yet turn the show into a romance.

hack5 said:


Thanks for the heads up I guess another show to drop this season I am not into yuri or yuri baiting.

TitanAnteus said:

I think he likes trying to make watchers feel negative emotions. He's also not very good with romance. He did direct Moonphase and that anime's romance is also terrible.

DonTrumpolino said:


Well, what did you expect from a country that drools over games and other media where mandatory sexual molestation and rape is appreciated.

However the clashes of what's perceived as "good" and as "oh-god-why-japan?" How is this show? Because I saw some scenes on the youtube and from what I can tell, it's pretty much the same as you mentioned earlier; forced, but you can at least walk away at will...

Ysad_Ziwezhan said:

Well, the guy opening this thread had no clue about "Egao no Daika", so the "forced, but you can at least walk away at will." is laughable since there's nothing of the sort in this show, not even romance :)


Nevertheless the "I think he likes trying to make watchers feel negative emotions." made some sense. At least you can say that the director like to crush one's expectations. The story does not follow the usual tropes. Many watchers are at loss with this approach. You just have to read the comments for the episodes and see the frustration of many with the development of the story. We aren't used to something like that. It's pretty unusual but that's also why it's great.

DonTrumpolino said:


So it's also safe to assume that the writers just did a bad job. Just like you can either say, that Jun Maeda's works are heavy on the dramedy laugh-then-feels train or he is just bad at transitioning from one to another emotion...

Ysad_Ziwezhan said:
the show looks like targeted at a shoujo, shounen kind of public, namely teenagers.
It ended up being watch by people too young.

Rei366 said:

Your assumption doesn't take the fact it's broadcasted between 21h30 and 22h into account. This works only in our countries where simulcasts companies main targets are adolescents (and young adults).

Rei366 said:

Your assumption doesn't take the fact it's broadcasted between 21h30 and 22h into account. This works only in our countries where simulcasts companies main targets are adolescents (and young adults).

Ysad_Ziwezhan said:


Good point.

Still, from the writing it's definitely not a shounen.

Seeing the main characters are female, the empire army general being a woman, the vanquish with the most screen time being Yuni ... we could say it's a Shoujo, maybe? I don't know if it's usual for a shoujo to be that realistic about the price of war, having such a negative development on Yuuki's side for so long and having such a grey presentation of the situation.

Finally, if we can safely say the opening was trolling us, at least the title of the show wasn't.

RobertBobert said:


In such matters, it is important not so much the gender of the characters, but the context in which the cast is located. In this case, this may be an attempt at gender-neutral treatment, for example, many girls and a serious topic attract men, while the female MC and the whole female POV attract girls. The Japanese often do that.

Ysad_Ziwezhan said:


I know, I am a man and I'm really interested in this anime and fascinated at how unconventionally the story evolved.

I still do think though it's not a story for young male teenagers, it's too frustrating/hard for most of them. There's in this anime a mature aspect with the realism of war and an obvious reject of the "fight above all and fight at all cost" value you find in most shounen. Male teenagers usually can't cope with these while war-rejection and idealism like "all lives matter" are values you could think you would find in shoujo literature or adult literature.