Why Kokoro is actually the best girl

opiktea said:
Kinda disgust me to read about it, but hats off for you OP, for being yourself..

Sure she did not like futoshi, but this is bussiness. They lived sucking on tax money and nobody reminds them of that...

Seems to me that this show hasn' t gave any consequence to any bad choices... Well of course except futoshi, and that hiro ex partner...

opiktea said:
Kinda disgust me to read about it, but hats off for you OP, for being yourself..

Now if i may ask, what kind of evaluation did you use to claim that she is qualified to get the predicate of best girl? If you may, please elaborate...

As for my oppinion regarding her act, i think she's unwise... Dumb even... To throw a perfectly stable partner for sickly mitsuru, she almost die if not for futoshi guarding them... It's almost impulsive for her to do that. I don't deny the sexual tension and aware of their pschosexual stage, but shouldn't the officer remind them that in any way this is not a game, i mean it's life and death right? Letting them goes on military operation without following up after testing compatibility 'just once'? Yes, the commanding officer was partly at fault, but still she's dumb... Sure she did not like futoshi, but this is bussiness. They lived sucking on tax money and nobody reminds them of that...

Seems to me that this show hasn' t gave any consequence to any bad choices... Well of course except futoshi, and that hiro ex partner...

ipigstine said:
Lol sucking on tax money? Business? They are brainwashed to suck papa's dick and fight Klaxosaurs, none of them would want this if they grew up normally. And what money? The adults live in a damn dystopia and i bet none of them actually get paid or have a job.

ThreadFazer said:
Kokoro is not a bitch who uses people for her own gain. She just think of futushi as a friend, but futushi is just forcing her and saying i want to be with u forever shit.

ThreadFazer said:
She just had to say yes to the promise cause she doesnt want to hurt him. But if she did said no to him, then it would cause awkwardness with the both of them thus affecting there teamwork at fighting. So she had to said yes. But when the opportunity to change partnered occurred, then she just change partners cause it was already hinted at the previous episodes that she was interested in mitsuru.

ThreadFazer said:
Im pretty sure if she knows that they are changing partners she would have said no, but she didn't know so she has to say yes to him cause she knows that it will affect there teamwork in the battlefield and ruining there friendship. Ps: this my old quote used to reply to other people, Just had to repost this so people like u can read it.

opiktea said:


The wae you put it, LOL

Adults live in dystopia? not true. Since biotechnology produced healthy clones and the setting suposedly goes with zero birthrate utopia, i believe the entertainment should get weird, it's japanese after all... And of course with cloning they got no proper pschosexual growth hence the papal aristocrat compensated with -possibly- a high end entertainmet...

wait.... is this communism? or neo-imperialism just like japanese?


I didn't even write that word, what the hell dude? i also did not deny the degrees of sexual atractions between those three


she doesn't want to hurt him, check... but, she does hurt him right?
the oficer gave them time to discuss and she said she won't shift, but.... bam, i'm sorry futoshi-kun you fat fuck, right?
because it's hinted she's interested with mitsuru? this is why she's dumb and the officer is also dumb... because on the technical aspect, is there any assurances he would not break down in the middle of battle just like with ikuno? which he did break down in the end risking the failure of the entire operation and both their life...

i mean, this thread glorifies her. for her making that decision is the best, like world would turn colorfull after that happened, but no... Mitsuru broke down in the middle of operation right at the cockpit. She and his beloved edgelord was almost dead, i mean, a clever man would chose to be safe than to be dead right?

What pisses me off, read carefully, What pisses me off was the fact that her decision proved counterproductive, but the showrunner decide to gave her no consequences... she choses a disabled pilot and does not die? i mean c'mon? just let the blood out....
yeah,sure...

ThreadFazer said:
I have another old quote for you pls read. Bro the point is that they are children who lacks understanding about love and emotions, so its no brainer that they are gonna make mistakes. Futushi also made a mistake not noing what his partner really feels about her, thus forcing her to answer a pretty hard question. Im pretty sure kokoro feels regret, but at the same time happiness cause she was partnerd with someone she likes. Just think of this, you have the opportunity to have a brand new toy that is perfect and it has everything u want. But at the same time u accidentally broke the toy of ur friend. So you feel sad that u broke ur friends toy, but at the same time u know that ur gonna have ur very own toy. So the happiness just conquered her regret. I know its bad that he choose happiness over regret. But u cant blame her, its her "first time experiencing" this things. Surely when she gets older she will understand it more. These are kids who are learning about life and love bro.

opiktea said:

You didn't even read that i've considered their psychosexual stage? It means that i know they are teenagers, in puberty, sexually impulsive...

You can't blame her for making that decision? Sure i can, especially when she rode an expensive robot that happened to be publicly funded. Also because her decision almost causing damages on property and assets blowing up an entire plantation... That was sound enough?

Alright let's blame the officer then... So, according to yout argument, she goes with her emotion rather than her reason? Then at least we could set on agreement that she's dumb? Automaticly rendering her unqualified to be the best hoe?

ThreadFazer said:
Bro they are children who lacks understanding about about love and human emotions. So you have to understand that they will make mistakes eventually. Plus this is good for futoshi to make him realize that love its not all happyness and it would make him stronger. This anime portrays the story of real life teenage drama.

ThreadFazer said:
The message is not all you love, will love you back. Thats just life bro sometimes u lose, sometimes u win. Thats it.

opiktea said:

Yeah yeah, they make mistake... All made mistakes, but only futoshi got punished for overly trusting his partner, while mitsuru, kokoro, and ikuno did not die because of their mistakes and shutting down a military vehicle mid battle... You seem to live in disney world, while making mistake you disregard the consequences... See? It's unequal right? Futoshi get what's coming for being annoying and creepy, but mitsuru? For being an edge lord got a new girl? Tell me if you think this resemble life? Cmon, be an edge lord and see if woman liked it!
spare me your preaching... Please...

GangsterCat said:
your post reeks jealousy. are you really that jealous for mitsuru getting girls before you do?

GangsterCat said:
your post reeks jealousy. are you really that jealous for mitsuru getting girls before you do?

TitanAnteus said:
That's a good point you're making Gangster Cat.

Still though, for the purposes of this show, I think they're just trying to say that Kokoro and Futoshi weren't working out for... Kokoro reasons and THAT'S a thing that happens in real life.

You can't deny that it'll make futoshi into a better person.

opiktea said:
really? You're unable to tell that this show failed to suspend my disbelief?

opiktea said:

Fine by me, just the way story goes was too easy... Taken for granted... Last week, (who's the loud kid again?) makes goro traped inside kloxaur. The officer, much less the loud kid didn't even introspect themself, i mean cmon man? At the end of the day, still nobody dies... No consequences of taken action. That episode and this one, just broke the immersion, the depth of world i personaly expect...

And here i am, merely offering my disagreememt for the proposition that she's the best girl...

TitanAnteus said:


I'm saying those are their character traits though. Even when Hiro could die when piloting with 02 he still went with it. That has nothing to do with 02, but his need to be useful.

02's distrust of adults is a defining character trait, written not to just be solved by hiro. With or without hiro, she distrusts the adults.

Ichigo's desire to be a competent leader yes does relate to Hiro, but you can replace Hiro with anyone and it'd still be the same. She doesn't want to be leader, but she has to be one and she's trying to deal with that, while dealing with her personal life. The way she handles that predicament is wholly unique to her.

Gobro on the surface looks like his problem is related to the other characters, but if you switch out the characters with anyone else, he'd still have that same third-wheel mentality he has. The problem is endemic to him and how he sees his relationship with people so it's a character trait.

fedos said:
Kokoro fought for her own path. It was imperfect, it was messy. But to paint her as some 'thot' for it is ridiculous.

She couldn't put a stop to Futoshi's overbearing advances that's her fault and she didn't handle it well. But it is a flaw that is understandable and not some uncaring evil. She likes Mitsuru, they've been building that up for a while. And she's sympathetic to him which Mitsuru interprets as pity. She is a meek agreeable girl who is bad at confrontation. It took her a while and an opportunity not available to her before to stand up for herself.

As for the suggestion she does this to elevate herself somehow, that's just ridiculous. Futoshi was the white night who as she herself says tries so hard to carry her burden. He puts her on a pedestal. All that combined probably made her feel suffocated. But for a manipulative bitch this would be quiet a comfortable position.

Instead she went for the outsider who was failing hard at the time. Who needed her instead of carrying her. And she fought hard for the relationship with the one she wanted. I can't hate her for this, faults or no.

I do feel bad for Futoshi. But at the same time even though he doesn't know any better he could have been more perceptive and could have read the mood better. For Kokoro especially, asking her for her feelings the way he did is the worse way possible. He put her in an awkward position which was galvanizing her to tell him what he wanted to hear given her personality and their position as assigned partners.

fedos said:
Kokoro fought for her own path. It was imperfect, it was messy. But to paint her as some 'thot' for it is ridiculous.

She couldn't put a stop to Futoshi's overbearing advances that's her fault and she didn't handle it well. But it is a flaw that is understandable and not some uncaring evil. She likes Mitsuru, they've been building that up for a while. And she's sympathetic to him which Mitsuru interprets as pity. She is a meek agreeable girl who is bad at confrontation. It took her a while and an opportunity not available to her before to stand up for herself.

fedos said:

As for the suggestion she does this to elevate herself somehow, that's just ridiculous. Futoshi was the white night who as she herself says tries so hard to carry her burden. He puts her on a pedestal. All that combined probably made her feel suffocated. But for a manipulative bitch this would be quiet a comfortable position.

Instead she went for the outsider who was failing hard at the time. Who needed her instead of carrying her. And she fought hard for the relationship with the one she wanted. I can't hate her for this, faults or no.

ItzPikachuGirl said:
Tf? People actually hate Kokoro for what she’s done?? Personally she’s my best girl. Kind and caring which somehow came out as slutty and a liar to other people??? I don’t get humans these days

GangsterCat said:
They are just jealous that they will never do this with her

Lirina said:
Thank you for this post. I completely agree with you.

TitanAnteus said:

You didn't link anyone?

GangsterCat said:
They are just jealous that they will never do this with her

Tennouji said:
Okay I just finished watching episode 11 and I find this Kokoro hate hilarious as fuck, if there is.

In fact, she has a good characterization, I don't know if it's safe to say that her character is realistic but that's what I see.

Bless to you, OP.

DirectorK said:

Thank you for the kind words.

You know, since people have been saying that this episode sent up death flags I'm going to be extremely pissed if they kill Kokoro and/or Mitsuru off in the next few episodes. Not only would it be stupid but after it would completely unfair to them after everything they've gone through. Of course, that wouldn't stop all the haters from rejoicing. We'll have to wait and see tomorrow.

-Stray said:
People here be arguing about what Kokoro did and assuming she had some weird agenda when we saw that the girl is just a naive curious little pumpkin that cares for her friends.

Anyways for fun's sake, maybe she prefers emo over fat dudes, they dont exactly have a lot of choices there, and here I thought Goro would be the popular one,you know.. tall, not emo, not fat, pretty positive etc.

But for the *Why Kokoro is Best Girl* tho... maybe for you OP, and some other plebs, obvious best girl here is Mitsuru! Kokoro barely beats gay glasses girl.

DirectorK said:

I wouldn't necessarily call Mitsuru emo. Brooding, yes. But not emo. An emo person would be begging for attention because he wants everyone to feel sorry for him.

And that's Ikuno(the glasses girl) you're thinking of, not Mitsuru.

opiktea said:

Fine, you're free to percieve me as such, but mitsuru had rough past? Where does this come from? Fanfic? Everyone got a rough past, genericly full of smile todler...

Do you even read my post? Because mistakes in war cost death... Not because i hate them. It only make senses that they would get killed playing around in war zone, instead getting some lovely butt spanking...

Sure... Are you trying to make me feel bad about myself?

Mitsuru is miserable? I don't know how the screenwriter did it, but it seems to work on you... Somebody in panic attack healed in 2 minutes talking in cockpit, sure then..

Again? Cmon man, i already agreed with this, stop...

Helping people around? Really? You paint her like a saint, the only distinguished quality of her personality is politeness, in a sense 'just nice'
Trying to make people happy? I dissagree, by the sense of self she tried to satisfy herself for gaining an image of a nice girl... It's called vanity... Placing oneself above other people... Freedom to choose her destiny? But, papa won't let her go that easy....