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Mar 13, 2018 5:18 PM
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This thread is to discuss episodes seen together of Umineko no Naku Koro ni.
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Mar 13, 2018 5:33 PM
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Mar 13, 2018 6:08 PM
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Wow, You are really not liking it. xD I'd not say it was THAT bad though. xD There was always something that creeped the living shit out of me when it comes to that portrait. I hate the characters as well, For example, What manner of a man lets his sister insult his wife like that? And i agree that Maria was really annoying and she'll still be annoying but anything when they cry gotta have a crazy loli somewhere. xD However, "I hate characters that are pervy for no reason." What do you mean by that? I thought you didn't mind horny characters xD I don't like the OP and ED either. So, Would you say there's a good chance that you might drop it?
Mar 13, 2018 6:24 PM
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"What manner of a man lets his sister insult his wife like that?"
That doesn't really bother me all that much because in big/wealthy famlies like that, the spouse who married into the family generally has no say in family matters; so honestly, she had no right insulting a legitimate member of the family like that. Can her husband really not fight his own battles?

What I mean is that there is no prior show of him being pervy/horny. We meet him and then he just jumps out of the boat and immediately grabbed her boobs. Was that really necessary? I just feel like it's so forced. It just bothers me. He just seems like a typical harem MC and that bothers my for a pshycological/mystery anime.
Let me make this a bit more clear, let's take Issei for example. From what I've seen, he has a ton of pervy thoughts and drools at girls, so we expect him to be super pervy. But we're just meeting this guy and his thoughts so far have been about his family and their situation. Then, he goes this is my aunt, uncle, etc. Oh, and here's my cousin *grabs boobs*... Why? Do you get what I mean? It just happens out of nowhere for no reason. It would've been more acceptable to me if when he was thinking about his family, he would've been like "I haven't seen Jessica in a while. I wonder what she grew up to look like," or something.

So far, I'm not liking it, but I won't decide to drop it until a few more episodes in. I am curious to see if it'll get better, but the characters really aren't doing it for me.
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That point aside, I honestly wouldn't let anyone talk to my wife like that no matter who they are. Regardless of what i think of her but she was supporting him and all he could say is "leave"? That scene really bugged me.

Ohhhh i see what you mean, You like it when the perviness is part of his personality, Not his WHOLE personality and not when it's the most random time but boi, If that's the case, You will add Issei to your shitlist, He literally fought vali at the end of S2 because azazel told him that vali's power divides things and he'd divide rias' boobs . . . . . Yeah xD

Yeah, I get it, I didn't like the characters either but it kinda gets a bit better later on. Honestly if you drop it, I am never touching it again. xD
Mar 13, 2018 8:00 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn't let anyone speak to my partner that way either, but first, every family functions differently, and second, she's the one that started it by yelling at one of the family members and telling her to leave when she's not even part of the family herself, you know? I understand it's not right, but it makes sense to the way that family functions from what I've seen so far.

That I don't mind, though. I don't mind charcaters who are only defined by their pervertedness. It's just that there was no hint or even slight detail of it being a personality trait of this guy. He was letting the audience know what was happening, introducing his family members, saying hello to them, and then BAM I'm a perv! Like, what? I just don't like it when it comes completely out of nowhere and seems entirely out of character and serves 0 purpose to the plot. I get Issei because as I said, he seems to always be thinking pervy thoughts and the ecchiness is part of the plot, so I get it. This is supposed to be a mystery/psychological/thriller and the only characteristic I've seen of the MC is that he's a perv... It just bugs me.

LOL don't worry, I won't be dropping it just yet. I'll give it like 5ish episdodes maybe since it is a bit of a longer show. Like I mentioned, though, I am curious to see if it gets better, so I'll keep watching.
Mar 13, 2018 8:05 PM
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Yeah, I understand what you are saying but his sister was kinda of a bitch too. I guess that's what a quarrel between women is like? xD Besides, They are the most dysfunctional family i have ever seen honestly. xD

Oh i see. I get what you mean now, And yeah, It does feel like a token comic relief instead of a proper character trait. With Issei, You will cringe from how much he turns everything into over the top sexual stuff. xD Can't wait for you to watch DxD ... Kinda should have chosen it instead of Umineko to torture you. xD

Oh i see, I do remember that the latter episodes had a decent escalating sense of mystery and intrigue but then something happened and i wasn't too fond of it afterwards. So we'll see. ;)
Mar 13, 2018 9:46 PM
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I mean, those types of women, sure. When I've gotten into arguments with women before, it wasn't really like that. It just depends what type of women they are.
And I don't know man, I think either the Zoldycks from HxH or the Brittania family in Code Geass are more dysfunctional, lol.

It's Yuki Kaji, so I'm down for watching it <3

Okie dokie, we shall see when we get to it, then.
Mar 13, 2018 9:49 PM
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Oh, It's just i have seen a lot of women being super extra nasty to each others that it basically got imprinted in my brain that women have no qualms with clawing other women's hair. xD
Oh no, These are like god tier dysfunctional families. xD to the point that there can be considered to be no family in the first place. xD

Careful what you wish for there. xD

Alright then, Next time on Friday, looking forward to it. ;)
Mar 13, 2018 9:55 PM

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I think you need to expose yourself to a variety of women, then, and not just that type, lol
The Zoldyck family is still one of the best things about HxH xD

I can just pretend it's Mei saying those thigns to me... omg xD

Sounds good!
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Well, It's not exactly my choice who i meet from the opposite gender you know? xD
Of course, Your inclination towards liking a specific type of high quality trash is showing. xD

OH, I'd bet you'd orgasm while you are watching it now. xD
Mar 13, 2018 10:19 PM

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Yeah, I guess you've got a point there lol
Dude, they're entertaining as hell. The eldest is hands-down one of the worst brothers in existence lmao.

If I close my eyes and think about him instead of Issei, then I might lmao.
Mar 13, 2018 10:27 PM
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And you love them for it? Shake my head at you andrea xD

See? I will be doing you a GREAT service. xD
Mar 15, 2018 2:26 PM

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Oh, I don't like all of them. I just like the eldest one and Killua, and I'm back and forth between the grandpa and the youngest child. The others I don't really like. But the eldest one has the best relationship with Hisoka, lmao. They are so entertaining whenever they're together.

That's literally the only way I'll be able to get through the show lol
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Oh i see, I mainly dislike all kinds of dysfunctional families for obvious reasons but of course, Some members can be alright i guess. xD

Buttt, You'd be blessed with a whole lot of boobs too. xD
Mar 15, 2018 2:50 PM

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As long as they entertain me, I don't really care.

I've been super exposed to a lot of them through you, so it's not really a selling point for me anymore for the show, lol.
Mar 15, 2018 2:54 PM
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You place too much value on entertainment young lady. xD

"I've been super exposed to a lot of them through you, so it's not really a selling point for me anymore for the show, lol."

Mar 15, 2018 3:52 PM

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That's like a majority of why I even watch anime, though, lol

LMAO omg xD
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That's a good point but still, For me things are a bit different. For example, There's an amusing servant in the fifth singularity and i don't mind her but i am not in love with her or anything, She's alright, I don't "love" or "hate" her even if she makes me laugh, And i'd sure stop her if her craziness got too far, That's for sure. xD That's just my cup of tea though.

Glad that made you laugh because i honestly couldn't think of any other response to that sentence. xD
Mar 15, 2018 4:18 PM

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Well, I'm not saying I'll love or hate any characters. I'm just saying that as long as they entertain me, then there's no reason for me to drop the show/movie/book, you know? When it comes to loving/hating a character, that's a different story lol

Yeah, I kind of figured, lol.
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You reallllly realllllllllllllly sure about that? xD I mean you like a certain someone i can't stand from DGM because he "cracks you up" xD or was it because he is a smooth talker? xD
Mar 15, 2018 4:38 PM

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No, I don't like him just because of that. I like his fighting style a lot and the way he uses his abilities/knowledge while in battle. His personality has nothing to do with why I like him. That's just a plus since he does crack me up quite a bit.
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Well, We'll see since i haven't seen him fight yet thankfully. xD Coming to think of it, You also told me about that other blood thirsty general you said had a fight in the 90s too as well as an akuma that will scare the shit out of me that i haven't encountered yet. xD
Mar 15, 2018 5:41 PM

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Yep, Sokala fights in the late 90s/early 100s (can't remember which episode it is). There's a particular scene that I fangirl to every single time I see it (which is once every like month or so lol).
No, it scared the hell out of ME. I have no idea what you'll think of it. I just wasn't really expecting it. And if you've seen anything from Hallow, then it most likely won't creep you out (won't say why for the sake of not spoiling).
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Something tells me i won't be very impressed with your preference afterwards .... xD
Well, We'll see, When does it happen exactly? xD I know you won't tell me but still, And no i haven't seen anything from hallow at all really but i am really looking forward to seeing it because of how much you like it.
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I definitely don't think you'll like any of his scenes. He's ridiculously impulsive and violent, so I doubt it, lol. I like his type of character when they're completely OP and badass (like both Berserkers, Kenpachi from Bleach, etc... just the overly violent ones that are always just looking for fights).
No, I won't tell you because what added to the creepiness was the fact that I didn't know it was coming. I mean, you sort of get hints about it, but when it actually appears I was like "F****CK NO" I mean, I was also watching it at night, so it didn't really help...
OH! And you'll be coming up to 2 of my favorite comedic scenes in the entirety of the show, so I'm excited to see whether you'll find them as amusing as I did, lol.
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I agree with you on Maria. xD But i still felt bad for her when her mom hit her though. And well, She's the trademarked crazy loli so she isn't going to die any soon you know? xD Well, I honestly didn't notice that because i got way too distracted by her fun bags whenever she was around. xD I am eh about Jessia though. OH, So you found your husbando of the show already huh? xD

Yup, I told you the mystery element was pretty good until a certain point. Though from what i heard about the VN, The VN might keep that theme going even if it's not consistent.

I thought their romance wasn't that bad as well and i really liked her honestly and i was pretty bumped to see her die. But oh well, That shed scene really hooked me on the series the first time i watched it though.

Oh, Don't worry about it. xD

OH, I see. I get what you mean but you know, Some people aren't pervs 24/7 cough like me cough xD I mean if something serious is going on you can pretty much i won't get aroused in the heat of the moment you know? But i get what you mean, His perviness is out of place and inconsistent. But i wish she had her big fun bags rubbed all over my shoulder too. xD

Surprisingly, i don't mind the OP anymore too, But i like different parts, the guitar parts.

Why though? xD I don't get that preference. xD
Ohhhhh, I am looking forward to it then, Eventhough i won't be able to watch the last cour until june. "Cries in a corner" xD
Well then, I have another thing to look forward to in these last 13 episodes which is good because i got discouraged after seeing the character featured on the poster. xD
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I didn't feel bad for her at all, she was been ridiculously immature and obnoxious for no reason #ImGoing2Hell
It was driving me nuts, so I didn't even pay attention to her figure, lmao.
Nah, he's not my husbando, but I think he's one of the only characters that I'm actually liking.

Yeah, that part of the mystery is pretty good. The others are pretty decent so far sicne they haven't been expanded on much.

That shed scene didn't hook me, but at least it got the action parts going, so it won't be all talk anymore. I don't mind them talking, but if somebody hadn't died after Beatrice's proposal, I would've been sorely disappointed.

Yeah, I get that and that's not the issue. It's the fact that it plays nothing into his character. It just happens super out of the blue. People who have pervy thoughts tend to do so much more often than just once a month or something, even if there's something serious going on, and his 'personality placement' just bugs me from a writing point. It was just bad writing. It's like if I had Hiro staring at Akhari's boobs when they first met and drooling over them and saying he wants to squeeze them, and then have every other scene be the same that it is now. Like... what purpose does that serve, you know? If a person is a perv, you'll see it more often than just one time. He's had plenty of chances to show that side with all of the "blessed" women in the family, and yet he doesn't even bat an eye with them, you know? Sorry, I'm just super salty because that's the type of thing that makes me think it's sloppy writing or they're just trying to "appeal to the male audience."

I like the more, uh, wtf is it called? Like choir-singing parts in the beginning? I don't know what to call them xD

Just because I get sick of the MCs that won't go all-out in battle or who are all talk and no bite. As much as I love Allen, he gets his ass handed to him way too many times for how strong his weapon is. They've said countless times that the parasitic types are the most dangerous, both to enemies and the user. They're the strongest types because they bond with the user and become part of their body. Yet Allen is constantly on his ass, lol. I mean, I get it and it needs to happen so that he can grow, but come on, that many times? lol. Unlike Naruto who can freaking defeat every damn opponent he comes across... There's just no in-between lol. But anyway, yeah, that's why when there are MCs that are always getting beat, I tend to turn to those characters that are OP and violent to appeal to my inner chaos lover xD That's why I like Kenpachi from Bleach since Ichigo gets his ass kicked quite often, too.

After they find Cross, it gets pretty interesting (for me, anyway). I got a bit tired of them constantly searching for him, but they explain why he's been so elusive and nowhere to be found, so the story starts to slowly come together afterwards and KIND OF leads into Hallow.
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I don't tend to tolerate any type of child abuse for obvious reasons, This is why i like Atalante from Fate/Apocrypha so much and why i was ecstatic when i summoned her in grand order so early on. I mean, If she didn't have that quality, I probably wouldn't have liked her very much, Aside from design wise.
You are not paying attention to the important parts. xD
Oh, I see. I am curious how it will develop though. xD

Well, The anime will end abruptly, That's what i am sure about because it adapts half the VN and poorly, I heard that there are a lot of inconsistencies and i got spoiled to a few twists along the way to understand what exactly.

You are a woman of action aren't you? xD

It's alright, That's very insightful, I never thought of it that way, But i am curious "No ill intent in that question or anything" Why do you think that behavior is catering to male audiences?

Yup, It's called choir. xD I liked that part too.

Well, I will have to disagree there. But i suppose that's a part of being a woman i guess. Allen in the asian branch arc and in his first fight with tyki was pretty much both at his limit, So he needed to find a way to expand his horizons, Nothing wrong with that, You can't always expect results 100% from people, There are other elements to consider. But, His power up during the second tyki fight was ridiculous, While the sword of exorcism fits him perfectly, He should have acquired it back in the asian branch, Not there. There it felt like a typical shounen power up.

Yup, I am tired of it too. But i am pretty sure i won't enjoy anything about it once cross starts to plague me with his presence. xD But hey, I am looking forward to hallow at least.
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I don't tolerate any type of child abuse either for my own reasons, but I don't care about it in anime because well, it's not real.
I'm trying, but the color difference bugged me! lol.
I am, too lol

Yes, I've heard to not even watch the anime because it doesn't do the VN any type of justice. But, I mean, I feel like the anime would serve as a good "gateway" into the story. Because if you enjoy any parts of the anime, then you'll definitely be enjoying the VN. And if you hate the anime because of the plot/characters, then you're most likely going to hate the VN, too, you know?

Yep! That's why I'm so into shounen and sports anime.

I think it caters to men because it's a man doing those actions. If it was catering more towards women, they would've had Jessica hitting on Battler instead. But honestly, I think this anime is trying to cater to both. They had Battler act like a perv to please the male audience (since that's something a majority would love to do, but would get in trouble for actually doing) and then the romantic scene between George and Shannon was catered more towards women, since they handled that very delicately and kept it pure. Women tend to be suckers towards those types of things, lol.

"Well, I will have to disagree there. But i suppose that's a part of being a woman i guess."
What do you mean by this? I have no idea what being a woman has anything to do with what I said?

Yeah, I know, that's why I said that I understad that he can't win all of the time since there are other things to factor in, but the fact that he gets beat more often than not with having such a powerful tool at hand (pun intended), kind of got to me sometimes.
"But, His power up during the second tyki fight was ridiculous, While the sword of exorcism fits him perfectly, He should have acquired it back in the asian branch, Not there. There it felt like a typical shounen power up."
That's exactly why I was making the argument about how Allen is constantly on his ass when this would've made much more sense to occur much earlier on, when his mental state initially began to change.

Well, as I'm sure you've noticed, Hallow doesn't deal with Cross and where the hell he is, so you might enjoy Hallow. I say 'might' because quite a lot of people didn't like the season. Particularly those who are DGM fans. I don't really know why?
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I don't tend to make that differentiation, I am consistent i guess.
But the PLOT. xD

I do actually agree with this, I think with the anime, If i am sold on it, I will definitely try the VN but maybe if you are also interested we could read it together somehow or hold off on it until we meet or something. xD

I never really understood why such simplistic sexual advances are so offensive to women, like geez, Chill already. xD But i guess you have a point there.

Well, Women tend to like "manly" men, Well obviously, So like being invincible and like being all "manly" and stuff would definitely be appealing to women from a biological point of view. In the hercules vs Gilgamesh fight in UBW, Illya was like, "Berserker won't lose to anyone, Because he's the strongest in the world." or something like that, So i think it's normal for women to like men like that really. Women's, Like biological fetishes are more personal than men, Men's fetishes are just physical "speaking from experience" xD But getting attached to someone is a different matter.

You and your puns again. xD Yup, I think his power up in the asian branch should have been his ultimate one, Because it genuinely fitted his mental state then but then when he got ANOTHER power up, This time without really a point, It kinda bugged me as well.

Yup, That's why i am looking forward to it. Enough about cross already, And i have kinda started to tolerate kanda a bit ever since his fight with skin for some reason, Like i don't feel like he's being an ass for the hell of it anymore so i am cautiously curious about him. I mean it kinda started when he attacked the other guys just so they'd leave him behind and then lenalee was like "Kanda" and then he ignored her and then she yelled at him to come back to them, I kinda started to see my own tsundere behavior in that so i thought i might give him a chance at least. xD As for Cross, The sun will die and the earth will stop spinning before i ever consider changing my mind about him. xD
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Well, I am sure you don't need me to tell you this but if you feel like the show is beyond redemption for you, Don't hesitate to drop it alright?
That's interesting, I can say i like both really, I like all kinds of mysteries as long as they are logical. Are there any other mystery shows/games/etc that handled mystery the way you like it before besides higurashi?
Yeah, That was surprising and i honestly didn't remember she acted that way. It was really the only "alright" moment she ever had in the entire anime i guess. xD For me at least. Alright then, But as i said, If it annoys you, Tell me right away, Alright?

Uhh, I saw the weird ecchi specials and i also can't recall that scene. xD Also, The first episode in the specials was sooooooooooooo weird that i got disgusted by how much they sexed up middle school kids honestly. It really weirded me out but i'd not say it gets "better" later, However, the other three episodes were definitely more tolerable i guess. Besides, Seeing miyo takano is a bikini was an absolute bliss. xD
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Oh, I know, But I'm kind of in the middle with the show. I'm not quite at the "I can't watch this garbage anymore" stage, so I'll continue!

Hmm, other mysteries that I enjoyed were Monster, Shinsekai Yori, Shiki, Death Parade, Steins;Gate, RE:Zero, Shingeki no Kyojin, and a whole bunch more.
I do like police mysteries if they deal with ONE major case instead of new ones every episode. So, shows like Psycho Pass, Death Note, Zankyou no Terror.

I did like that she's a complete b*tch to everyone but super nice to her husband and son (even though she kind of freaked a bit about Shannon wearing the ring, but that's expected when the person wearing said ring is from a family servant, you know?).

LOL that's exactly why I dropped the hell out of that show. It was revolting.
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I can't figure out a pattern in your mystery preferences honestly. xD Other than that they all had some kind of a psychological vibe to them. I mean, The only one that's kinda not psychological that much is Steins;Gate but the rest are heavy on the psychological element. So eh, That's the only pattern i can see i guess. xD

That's kinda classicist you know? I mean just because she's a maid doesn't mean she's a bad person or anything, If this is just about status to her instead of her son's happiness then there's something wrong with her "not that i ever had any doubts" xD But yeah, i didn't find that appealing about her at all.

True, I honestly never ever felt disgusted by anyone perving out before aside from that episode, I was basically shivering with discomfort from it. xD Good job, Japan. xD
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Well, I wouldn't consider SnK to be a psychological mystery, so there's another one lol.

Yeah, I don't even remember how I made it through the entire episode, to be honest, lol.

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Yeah, That was pretty noticeable, All they wanna do is bone their servants, No wonder they are so dysfunctional. xD

And yup, I love the OP now too i guess. xD Well, I have nothing to say about that second part. xD
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