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| ok from club @ironace use ability on someone u can convince. ability is convincing enough. would be an idea to neighborize 2, 1 strong + 1 easily swayed town, and kill off the strong town later (pref after they conf ur ability). if we think cop is on our tail, best for me to commute u. (@Ruu will have to be on her own.) hidden ability might be gf, so we aim for at least 1 'rose'. Ruu will need to think up a fakeclaim since using commute on her is a waste. I will reserve commute for Iron. maybe Ruu. if I'm cornered I can use it on town to pocket. @Ruu what would u fakeclaim? make sure ur acting in line with that. @ironace not sure if Abu has past exp with scum neighborizer but u could try him. |
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| @Phraze the only fake claim I can do is VT, nothing else is safe. |
| hmm kk. might fit the pr ratio better too |
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| This is a post with stuff that Cross talked about that might help us get roses: Q: What is your most favorite mafia role from a design perspective? A: I like roles that force players to make meaningful decisions, where they have to actually think about how they're going to use it, weigh risk/reward, pros and cons. Roles where it's not immediately obvious how you're supposed to use them optimally, in other words. every single time a wolf writes any kind of game content at all, it's a lie. Every single little "I think maybe X" or "could be Y", it's a lie. They know, they don't "think." A read glossed over, when someone in their shoes wouldn't have gotten there that easily. Or something over-explained, because they're trying to cover the fact that it's not an organic train of thought. Get them to ask questions. One of my favorite thing to do with perennial mislynches is to have them ask other people questions - you get a wealth of information from it. You get both the responses to the questions, to possibly determine those players' alignments, and you get the questions they ask. 'Would this player ask this question as scum?' tends to be more reliable than 'would this player say this as scum?' It's a subtle distinction, but you can see whether or not they're trying to figure things out from the questions they ask. @Togs which one is Cross: Prophylaxis or Voxxicus? @ironace the first one might be useful for you. |
Togs said: @Ruu Haha, nice to see you're taking an interest in those links. FYI, Crossbell = Prophylaxis well ofc and if we can pocket Cross that would help us a lot! because even if he "could be scum" on everyone's mind he is town because of the game's flavor. Is like pocketing an IC. |
| wonder if Penta is lying about day cop. Ruu could be target... |
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Phraze said: ok from club @ironace use ability on someone u can convince. ability is convincing enough. would be an idea to neighborize 2, 1 strong + 1 easily swayed town, and kill off the strong town later (pref after they conf ur ability). if we think cop is on our tail, best for me to commute u. (@Ruu will have to be on her own.) hidden ability might be gf, so we aim for at least 1 'rose'. Ruu will need to think up a fakeclaim since using commute on her is a waste. I will reserve commute for Iron. maybe Ruu. if I'm cornered I can use it on town to pocket. @Ruu what would u fakeclaim? make sure ur acting in line with that. @ironace not sure if Abu has past exp with scum neighborizer but u could try him. you cant save a townie only scum |
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Ruu said: This is a post with stuff that Cross talked about that might help us get roses: Q: What is your most favorite mafia role from a design perspective? A: I like roles that force players to make meaningful decisions, where they have to actually think about how they're going to use it, weigh risk/reward, pros and cons. Roles where it's not immediately obvious how you're supposed to use them optimally, in other words. every single time a wolf writes any kind of game content at all, it's a lie. Every single little "I think maybe X" or "could be Y", it's a lie. They know, they don't "think." A read glossed over, when someone in their shoes wouldn't have gotten there that easily. Or something over-explained, because they're trying to cover the fact that it's not an organic train of thought. Get them to ask questions. One of my favorite thing to do with perennial mislynches is to have them ask other people questions - you get a wealth of information from it. You get both the responses to the questions, to possibly determine those players' alignments, and you get the questions they ask. 'Would this player ask this question as scum?' tends to be more reliable than 'would this player say this as scum?' It's a subtle distinction, but you can see whether or not they're trying to figure things out from the questions they ask. @Togs which one is Cross: Prophylaxis or Voxxicus? @ironace the first one might be useful for you. thank you. I always forget to ask questions. |
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| ok so since i know riku is usually like this i want to vote for labs but ill wait more and here your thoughts. I still havent decided who to pick. RIKU is confirmed because i see this behavior in most of his games. |
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| @ironace I think riku will end up getting lynched. Wait until D2 to use your ability, let's see how everyone behaves after the first flip. oh, and I'm soo voting for killing labs N1 lol |
Ruu said: @ironace I think riku will end up getting lynched. Wait until D2 to use your ability, let's see how everyone behaves after the first flip. oh, and I'm soo voting for killing labs N1 lol ok so i believe we need to spread our nummbers in labs/riku. I feel like if we all vote on the person who may get lynched we'll get screwed. So i'll vote for labs if this continues while right now ill defend riku. |
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thanks for the tip! |
ironace said: I'll come to the rescue as and when its required. I'm p good at the balancing act. just suspect who u think is suspicious.Ruu said: @ironace I think riku will end up getting lynched. Wait until D2 to use your ability, let's see how everyone behaves after the first flip. oh, and I'm soo voting for killing labs N1 lol ok so i believe we need to spread our nummbers in labs/riku. I feel like if we all vote on the person who may get lynched we'll get screwed. So i'll vote for labs if this continues while right now ill defend riku. |
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| @Phraze @ironace okay, I think we need a strategy. We are the informed minority and sometimes that it's not a good thing. For example, I'm bad at thinking as a townie when I'm scum, maybe one of you is not good at bussing, etc. Can any of you tell me a good player to mislynch atm? 'cause I can't... I want to push Penta, I asked him a few questions but I'm no good at pressuring people ( @Phraze want to lend me a hand there?). I think he is lying and I want him to admit to that without being too obvious about it. The Lamb/riku situation is something that will resolve itself without our intervention. Riku screams town so there is no way I'm pushing a lynch on him (at least for now). Labs is unreadable so I will probably keep him neutral until I find something I can use against him. Also, I hate how he plays, so aggressively so I'm completely biased xD Coro will become the town leader imo so it would be great if iron can use his ability on her. Do you guys think iro should use his ability on two townies or should one of us be part of the neighborhood? 2 v 1? (me and coro or phraze and coro). |
Ruu said: @Phraze @ironace okay, I think we need a strategy. We are the informed minority and sometimes that it's not a good thing. For example, I'm bad at thinking as a townie when I'm scum, maybe one of you is not good at bussing, etc. Can any of you tell me a good player to mislynch atm? 'cause I can't... I want to push Penta, I asked him a few questions but I'm no good at pressuring people ( @Phraze want to lend me a hand there?). I think he is lying and I want him to admit to that without being too obvious about it. The Lamb/riku situation is something that will resolve itself without our intervention. Riku screams town so there is no way I'm pushing a lynch on him (at least for now). Labs is unreadable so I will probably keep him neutral until I find something I can use against him. Also, I hate how he plays, so aggressively so I'm completely biased xD Coro will become the town leader imo so it would be great if iron can use his ability on her. Do you guys think iro should use his ability on two townies or should one of us be part of the neighborhood? 2 v 1? (me and coro or phraze and coro). I agree, im not good at pressuring people as well :/ however im sure penta wont be lynched today. Town will be like ''give him some time etc'' A good target would be sleipnirr since he is so inactive but day 1 i doubt people will be keen to lynch an inactive.Unless ofc people push for it like ''since we are nto coming to a conclusion lets vote sleipnirr etc'' or do we let this go to rng? |
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| @Togs I hope my hidden ability is a good fake claim lol |
I think we should leave him alone. Hopefully, he confesses or checks a townie and we can go after him for that on D2. It's safer. |
Ruu said: I think we should leave him alone. Hopefully, he confesses or checks a townie and we can go after him for that on D2. It's safer. I decided to shade Cross. gotta love the challenge of shading the 'IC' xD kinda hinted that Penta should use his claim so we'll see (if he's rly cop, maybe he'll solve the riku/Labs dilemma) |
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| I think I got Scarlet to buy scum!Labs by saying Ruu could be a team lol. stroking the gut ego |
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| dunno whats going on but scarlet seems hell bent on lynching century. I was going to say i dunno how to shade you but your vote on labs gave me an idea lel. so..who are we going to lynch again. |
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| poke me with everything u got lol (remember to be realistic about it) dont forget to make connections too, so the suspicion has smwhere else to go. Ruu can help move the suspicions while u generate it we should lynch Labs. Penta might try to pull a fast one and say he checked someone, who's about to be lynched, as town. cfd onto Cent or Sleip. |
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| basic scum rulez (cuz it seems necessary) 1. believe ur town and ur right 2. dont avoid scumbuds. even solo endgaming helps u win so who cares 3. be paranoid (even ur buds might jump a bus on u~) 4. keep triangle mode: townread bud who's scumread by other bud. enough of this is funny lol |
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| @Phraze we need to save Labs and get Century lynch. That way we can push labs lynch D2. |
Phraze said: hmm will try. Cross seems to be covering him tho. gonna try push Penta over the no-result (he probs expect doc to save him, which is a good counter) century? I think he is an easy lynch but you guys need to be careful. He is not even trying to scumhunt, you can go after him for that, his vote on lamb, lack of reads, lurkiness... |
| could try to push the Cent/Labs idea. interchange extra slot with Ruu/Iron (dont theater too much) or anyone susp. best to keep Iron alive tho.. so Ruu will have to take the heat. it Iron is gonna be lynched he can claim, so the other way around is fine too Abu/Sleip are good CFDs. push em like u believe it dunno Labs but he said he softclaimed? could be doc, cuz Penta townreads him after cop claim @ironace @Ruu |
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| I'm sorry I was meant to do some good for u guys But if it appears that I'm goingoing to be lynched.lynch me. I say this mainly because my net been fked up for most of the day. |
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ironace said: I'm sorry I was meant to do some good for u guys But if it appears that I'm goingoing to be lynched.lynch me. I say this mainly because my net been fked up for most of the day. Why did you vote labs over century??! |
Ruu said: ironace said: I'm sorry I was meant to do some good for u guys But if it appears that I'm goingoing to be lynched.lynch me. I say this mainly because my net been fked up for most of the day. Why did you vote labs over century??! sorry i dint put any thoughts into this. |
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| im sure i can handle pressure for the next day. However, why are you ready to kill penta? I feel like cross/abu/scarlet are the bigger fish |
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ironace said: im sure i can handle pressure for the next day. However, why are you ready to kill penta? I feel like cross/abu/scarlet are the bigger fish i didn't know he had used his ability on labs. We will keep labs + penta alive. I want Cross alive also. We might be able to pocket him. How about you used your ability on Cross and me or phraze? if we pocket cross we have a shot because people town read him. We can kill Scarlet @Phraze Abu is VT so I prefer to kill possible pr's. |
Ruu said: I like this idea.ironace said: im sure i can handle pressure for the next day. However, why are you ready to kill penta? I feel like cross/abu/scarlet are the bigger fish i didn't know he had used his ability on labs. We will keep labs + penta alive. I want Cross alive also. We might be able to pocket him. How about you used your ability on Cross and me or phraze? if we pocket cross we have a shot because people town read him. We can kill Scarlet @Phraze Abu is VT so I prefer to kill possible pr's. I will choose phraze as you are in the same boat as me. I still fell like handling cross seems to be a double edged sword. How should i go about it? You two are the most experienced players so i want you two to sort each other out as well as me so that we can move on and look into others? |
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ironace said: Ruu said: I like this idea.i didn't know he had used his ability on labs. We will keep labs + penta alive. I want Cross alive also. We might be able to pocket him. How about you used your ability on Cross and me or phraze? if we pocket cross we have a shot because people town read him. We can kill Scarlet @Phraze Abu is VT so I prefer to kill possible pr's. I will choose phraze as you are in the same boat as me. I still fell like handling cross seems to be a double edged sword. How should i go about it? You two are the most experienced players so i want you two to sort each other out as well as me so that we can move on and look into others? read the links togs gave us. You need to work too because there is nothing that I can use right now to put you on my town block. If you weren't my partner I would have lynch you by now (sorry lol). |
| could kill Penta ... in fact might be better to. if he flips vanilla we can push Labs anyway lol. p sure theres watcher or tracker in setup cuz of ninja ability (could be Scarlet or Sleip?) neighborize whoever u townread most. Cross or Coro. or Scarlet. maybe Cross since ur his scumread. perf throwoff we push Sleip/Riku next idk if I should commute.. use on Iron in case he's copped, or use on Ruu who use ninja kill (evade tracker) [I mean strongman] |
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Ruu said: ironace said: I like this idea. I will choose phraze as you are in the same boat as me. I still fell like handling cross seems to be a double edged sword. How should i go about it? You two are the most experienced players so i want you two to sort each other out as well as me so that we can move on and look into others? read the links togs gave us. You need to work too because there is nothing that I can use right now to put you on my town block. If you weren't my partner I would have lynch you by now (sorry lol). DW i would lynch me too. Im playing a terrible game but ... ;-; I dont want to give any more excuses. @togs why do you have night talk allowed?! Please shut them up before they fill out ten pages by tomorrow >_< |
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Phraze said: could kill Penta ... in fact might be better to. if he flips vanilla we can push Labs anyway lol. p sure theres watcher or tracker in setup cuz of ninja ability (could be Scarlet or Sleip?) neighborize whoever u townread most. Cross or Coro. or Scarlet. maybe Cross since ur his scumread. perf throwoff we push Sleip/Riku next idk if I should commute.. use on Iron in case he's copped, or use on Ruu who use ninja kill (evade tracker) [I mean strongman] if he doesn't we get two conf townies. |
| @Phraze I want to kill Scarlet because I think they are pr. We need to kill pr first. |
ironace said: Sorry my friend, but if you want to churn out 10 pages yourself, there is nothing stopping you !@togs why do you have night talk allowed?! Please shut them up before they fill out ten pages by tomorrow >_< |
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we could kill coro if you want. I want Crossbell alive and neighbourize. @ironace Penta saying Labs is town doesn't completely confirm him but we can leave her alone and kill him N2. Should we kill coro then? who is going to kill her? |
Ruu said: idk... not sure if u will survive D2 so u better use strongman on Penta or ninja on Coro (assuming 1st is cop and 2nd is doc) we could kill cop first and see if doc tried anything? and its better for u to do the kills imowe could kill coro if you want. I want Crossbell alive and neighbourize. @ironace Penta saying Labs is town doesn't completely confirm him but we can leave her alone and kill him N2. Should we kill coro then? who is going to kill her? also might be good to neighborize me with Cross, if we're planning that way :P btw from the vanilla flip, Abu probs thought the hidden ability slot means everyone is vanilla. better keep that in mind hmm... options: 1. kill Coro and play with the strat to not confirm anyone. Penta's flip might conf Labs. can go into our neighborize strat 2. strongman Penta and kill off the cop ... actually I think this is better |
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