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Oct 22, 2017 7:45 AM
#101
This was a great example of an episode that is objectively slow, with few cuts and lots of static scenes that manages the be engaging, beautiful and compelling. I really wish more shows were paced like this. |
Oct 22, 2017 7:46 AM
#102
ThatCynicalOtaku said: MomoSinX said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: MomoSinX said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: I don't get this anime, nor why people love it so much. It's one of those anime that focuses on, "dramatic enchanting" moments...but none of it really feels "enchanting", or "dramatic". The Old Dragon barely had any screentime, nor was there really any significance to the half-baked dream sequence, or any consequence to this episode, nor is anything about the dragons going to be brought up again. The dragons will be brought up again and play an important role, that is the most craziest ongoing arc in the manga currently. Is it just the dragons? Or will the other fantasy elements from the previous episodes (like the fairies) also return? Because they're all freaking awesome and I want to see them again. Everyone will be relevant again at some point. The first few episodes are just world building really. Next arc will actually introduce our main villain, if you ever wondered who was the creepy humming guy from the trailers, yeah, that's him. Will Chise learn how to actually fight? Or at least, do something? Well, she won't be a magus' apprentice for nothing. Due to being a Sleigh Beggy she is more of a passive type of magus though, so don't expect any crazy action from her. |
Oct 22, 2017 8:30 AM
#103
ThatCynicalOtaku said: Kittens-kun said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Kittens-kun said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: AquaWateria said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: I don't get this anime, nor why people love it so much. It's one of those anime that focuses on, "dramatic enchanting" moments...but none of it really feels "enchanting", or "dramatic". The Old Dragon barely had any screentime, nor was there really any significance to the half-baked dream sequence, or any consequence to this episode, nor is anything about the dragons going to be brought up again. Maybe because people have different opinions bro. Yeah. Duh. Because people have different opinions. What's next? 2 + 2 = 4? The sky is blue? I'm asking WHY people are so head-over-heels for this anime? Because the only thing I find good about it are the fantasy elements, and the fact that the other male main character has a fucking skeleton animal for a head. You could just drop it instead of complaining every week. I never said anything that implied that I dislike this anime or find it boring. Well, you barely said anything positive about it. I literally said in my original post that the fantasy elements themselves and Elias's design, are fucking cool. I understand that this is the internet, where people of all kinds absorb multiple pieces of information at once, but come on... Liking one character design is a pretty small thing. You can't blame me for thinking you dislike the show when you wrote multiple paragraphs of complaints. |
Oct 22, 2017 8:48 AM
#104
really digging this show - the few splashes of comedy always make me chuckle. The art and sound are very pretty and the story looks promising! Can't wait for more :) |
Oct 22, 2017 8:54 AM
#105
This was beautiful. The way they presented the dragon's death and how they deal with it was interesting and amazing. The little dragons! I want to be Lindel's apprentice, I wanna play with the dragons too :( I don't see anything bad about this show, if it goes like this I gonna rate it a 20. Really, what a beautiful episode :') (Harry Potter, watch out, this magic world is seeing a lot more interesting to me right now) I SEE CATS NEXT WEEK. *-* And about the Old Dragon's death...it happened mostly to introduce the discussion about death, to put this parallel in what humans think of death and other species, in this case the dragons, how they see and understand it. Death is actually a taboo theme for some people, most don't really like talking about and it is, apparently, important to Chise's character as well (her mom's suicide, her own attempt, she maybe not gonna last that long). So, we don't really need 878737428778 episodes with the Old Dragon, his character was not that important per se, but the message and discussion they were trying to convey there, about living and dying. But, that is just my opinion on the matter. |
taynisOct 22, 2017 9:14 AM
Oct 22, 2017 9:01 AM
#106
Why some people have watched it in July?) Explain it to me? Is it rerun now or what? |
Oct 22, 2017 9:18 AM
#107
Kittens-kun said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Kittens-kun said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Kittens-kun said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: AquaWateria said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: I don't get this anime, nor why people love it so much. It's one of those anime that focuses on, "dramatic enchanting" moments...but none of it really feels "enchanting", or "dramatic". The Old Dragon barely had any screentime, nor was there really any significance to the half-baked dream sequence, or any consequence to this episode, nor is anything about the dragons going to be brought up again. Maybe because people have different opinions bro. Yeah. Duh. Because people have different opinions. What's next? 2 + 2 = 4? The sky is blue? I'm asking WHY people are so head-over-heels for this anime? Because the only thing I find good about it are the fantasy elements, and the fact that the other male main character has a fucking skeleton animal for a head. You could just drop it instead of complaining every week. I never said anything that implied that I dislike this anime or find it boring. Well, you barely said anything positive about it. I literally said in my original post that the fantasy elements themselves and Elias's design, are fucking cool. I understand that this is the internet, where people of all kinds absorb multiple pieces of information at once, but come on... Liking one character design is a pretty small thing. You can't blame me for thinking you dislike the show when you wrote multiple paragraphs of complaints. I also said that I really liked the fantasy elements. And I also wrote about 1 paragraph, which consisted of only 2 long sentences, so it hardly qualifies as a paragraph, when a paragraph is expected to be at least 3 sentences. You should pay attention to peoples' posts before replying to them. |
Oct 22, 2017 9:28 AM
#108
darktip said: Why some people have watched it in July?) Explain it to me? Is it rerun now or what? There was a movie premiered in theaters many people went to see the first three episode like a teaser. So yes you can think of it as a rerun. |
Oct 22, 2017 9:29 AM
#109
ThatCynicalOtaku said: Kittens-kun said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Kittens-kun said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Kittens-kun said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: AquaWateria said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: I don't get this anime, nor why people love it so much. It's one of those anime that focuses on, "dramatic enchanting" moments...but none of it really feels "enchanting", or "dramatic". The Old Dragon barely had any screentime, nor was there really any significance to the half-baked dream sequence, or any consequence to this episode, nor is anything about the dragons going to be brought up again. Maybe because people have different opinions bro. Yeah. Duh. Because people have different opinions. What's next? 2 + 2 = 4? The sky is blue? I'm asking WHY people are so head-over-heels for this anime? Because the only thing I find good about it are the fantasy elements, and the fact that the other male main character has a fucking skeleton animal for a head. You could just drop it instead of complaining every week. I never said anything that implied that I dislike this anime or find it boring. Well, you barely said anything positive about it. I literally said in my original post that the fantasy elements themselves and Elias's design, are fucking cool. I understand that this is the internet, where people of all kinds absorb multiple pieces of information at once, but come on... Liking one character design is a pretty small thing. You can't blame me for thinking you dislike the show when you wrote multiple paragraphs of complaints. I also said that I really liked the fantasy elements. And I also wrote about 1 paragraph, which consisted of only 2 long sentences, so it hardly qualifies as a paragraph, when a paragraph is expected to be at least 3 sentences. You should pay attention to peoples' posts before replying to them. You also complained in your replies to other people. Maybe you should pay attention to your own posts. It looks like you didn't like it. That's all I'm saying. Jesus. |
Oct 22, 2017 9:51 AM
#110
Except for the flight scene, quite static, the rest of the narration was fabulous. So many tears and feelings I felt during the vision. I hope that in the home version, improve the drawings and redraw some scenes, making it more spectacular. |
Oct 22, 2017 9:59 AM
#111
This episode gave me some feels admittedly I felt like tearing up a little bit I'm not sure why to be honest. However it just makes me look forward to the next episode! the story is interesting, the art is beautiful and very colorful and I would have to say my favorite scene was when she was flying in and out side of the dream it really showed off the art for this show. |
Oct 22, 2017 11:24 AM
#112
At the end of 2nd episode I thought, oh and here come the bad guys, but turned out he was good and I'm glad. The animation is so good. And I'm in love with the opening. |
Oct 22, 2017 11:29 AM
#113
"It's so beautiful". Look like I will repeat this statement a lot of time in upcoming episodes. |
Oct 22, 2017 11:53 AM
#114
Oct 22, 2017 12:03 PM
#115
That hit me right in the feels. Uncle Kevin was so kind and nice. I felt really sad. Beautiful animation and soundtrack as always. |
Oct 22, 2017 12:06 PM
#116
ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: LauraBirdie said: Niello said: Nice to see people are so easily pleased. This episode was just plain to me, despite how much I love the chapter in the manga. The scenes toward the end seems so forced, like "Here! you are supposed to feel sentimental here! There's even a lullaby like song to go with it!". Meanwhile, there are so many many still frames that just keep dragging on for longer than they should. Almost like they have to make the scene last as long as the song, but they don't want to do more animation so they just pad it out. It was kind of boring. Please keep your expectations in check. Yes the flying scenes had some lingering stills, but the art style is very detailed and it's a 2 cour show,keeping up this kind of quality in a 2 cour show is to be applauded. The show looks really good so far, don't be unfair because your expectations were too high. I'd rather have something that looks consistent throughout the whole thing that spending all of their time, budget and talent on the first three episodes. The only detailed thing about it is the background. The scene was pretty much static. 2 cour show or not, it's the decision they made to just fill what is supposed to be the climax of the episode with still frames, and I find that it sucks my enjoyment out of it. If they had kept it more tight, it would have worked better. Otherwise, at least use some more interesting framing than uninsipred ones. My expectation is simple. Since this is a medium with moving visuals, colours and sounds, I expect an enhanced experience of what I have read in the manga. If it fails to do that then I think it is perfectly normal to get disappointed, which I am. The way you said it also made it sounds like it's good for One Piece to have the shitty animation it is getting. It didn't fail though. That's the point here. Well, in my opinion it failed, especially when you compare it to adaptation of lesser known manga like Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryouko and Houseki no Kuni. I feel like I'm watching an adaptation that is lacking. Despite that I enjoyed the chapter, this episode feels flat and didn't resonate with me. For me it's a lacking adaptation, though that in no way means that I think the content of the episode is lacking. It's just the execution is uninspired ihmo and for me that is a big deal. If an anime is only good because it is riding on the strenght of its source material and not offering much of its own, then I'm not going to think too highly of it. They nailed the music, that was awesome. The art is also pretty good. However, the still frames and rather mediocre animation so far is not winning me over. It doesn't need to offer anything of it's own if it's already a good, faithful adaptation. Plus, the animation is mediocre? I know we watched the same episode here, so I really don't see how you think that. They might have paused a little too long on certain shots during that dream scene I admit, but the rest of the episode was undoubtedly beautiful. This is easily one ofthe best looking shows of the season. Care to tell me how the episode was well animated? Are you sure you aren't mistaking art and aesthetic for animation? Also, no, I don't think it is already good. I find the episode quite boring in fact. If the episode itself is truly good, I wouldn't be here with my complaint. Also, this is a strong season, much more than the rest of the year, so I can't help it if my standard is higher here. Care to tell me how it's not? I mean, literally everyone else is saying it's good. You're in the extreme minority. You're saying it's badly animated as a whole because of one scene. When is the animation in this episode actually good? I haven't seen any. The animation is very limited and uninspired. Only the art is pretty. In the entire episode there is very little movement that is worthy of note. And even in the part with more animation, they don't stand out. It's not just a single scene. You can clearly see that animation isn't all that presence throughout the whole episode. So what if I'm in the extreme minority? I care about quality, what's wrong with that? Why are you so keen at harping on me anyway? How many years will it take for the anime community to realize that Japanese animation is limited, even by limited animation standards? In any anime, the only movements (when there isn't a comedy/action scene) are either mouths flapping, or small boring movements like characters walking. I should've played a drinking game when watching this episode to count how many shots there were where literally nothing moved. Then how do you explain Garo? Yuri on Ice? Made in Abyss? Death Parade? Baccano!? Madoka? Ufo Fate? Kaiba? Girl's Last Tour? Zodiac War? Kino? etc. Any of those have better animation than what Mahoutsukai no Yome has shown capable so far. Just because TV anime have more limited animation doesn't mean it doesn't count. Especially when there are plenty of shows in the same medium that has done it better. At least some other shows make up for it with interesting animation and framing. This one hasn't done any of that. |
Oct 22, 2017 12:23 PM
#118
I loved the flying scene and I'm digging the fantasy aspects of this show so far. I can only imagine how good this is going to get. Best episode yet and now it is safe to say this will probably be AOTS. I hope this episode quiets all the people calling this anime overrated or over hyped. |
Oct 22, 2017 12:24 PM
#119
Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: LauraBirdie said: Niello said: Nice to see people are so easily pleased. This episode was just plain to me, despite how much I love the chapter in the manga. The scenes toward the end seems so forced, like "Here! you are supposed to feel sentimental here! There's even a lullaby like song to go with it!". Meanwhile, there are so many many still frames that just keep dragging on for longer than they should. Almost like they have to make the scene last as long as the song, but they don't want to do more animation so they just pad it out. It was kind of boring. Please keep your expectations in check. Yes the flying scenes had some lingering stills, but the art style is very detailed and it's a 2 cour show,keeping up this kind of quality in a 2 cour show is to be applauded. The show looks really good so far, don't be unfair because your expectations were too high. I'd rather have something that looks consistent throughout the whole thing that spending all of their time, budget and talent on the first three episodes. The only detailed thing about it is the background. The scene was pretty much static. 2 cour show or not, it's the decision they made to just fill what is supposed to be the climax of the episode with still frames, and I find that it sucks my enjoyment out of it. If they had kept it more tight, it would have worked better. Otherwise, at least use some more interesting framing than uninsipred ones. My expectation is simple. Since this is a medium with moving visuals, colours and sounds, I expect an enhanced experience of what I have read in the manga. If it fails to do that then I think it is perfectly normal to get disappointed, which I am. The way you said it also made it sounds like it's good for One Piece to have the shitty animation it is getting. It didn't fail though. That's the point here. Well, in my opinion it failed, especially when you compare it to adaptation of lesser known manga like Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryouko and Houseki no Kuni. I feel like I'm watching an adaptation that is lacking. Despite that I enjoyed the chapter, this episode feels flat and didn't resonate with me. For me it's a lacking adaptation, though that in no way means that I think the content of the episode is lacking. It's just the execution is uninspired ihmo and for me that is a big deal. If an anime is only good because it is riding on the strenght of its source material and not offering much of its own, then I'm not going to think too highly of it. They nailed the music, that was awesome. The art is also pretty good. However, the still frames and rather mediocre animation so far is not winning me over. It doesn't need to offer anything of it's own if it's already a good, faithful adaptation. Plus, the animation is mediocre? I know we watched the same episode here, so I really don't see how you think that. They might have paused a little too long on certain shots during that dream scene I admit, but the rest of the episode was undoubtedly beautiful. This is easily one ofthe best looking shows of the season. Care to tell me how the episode was well animated? Are you sure you aren't mistaking art and aesthetic for animation? Also, no, I don't think it is already good. I find the episode quite boring in fact. If the episode itself is truly good, I wouldn't be here with my complaint. Also, this is a strong season, much more than the rest of the year, so I can't help it if my standard is higher here. Care to tell me how it's not? I mean, literally everyone else is saying it's good. You're in the extreme minority. You're saying it's badly animated as a whole because of one scene. When is the animation in this episode actually good? I haven't seen any. The animation is very limited and uninspired. Only the art is pretty. In the entire episode there is very little movement that is worthy of note. And even in the part with more animation, they don't stand out. It's not just a single scene. You can clearly see that animation isn't all that presence throughout the whole episode. So what if I'm in the extreme minority? I care about quality, what's wrong with that? Why are you so keen at harping on me anyway? How many years will it take for the anime community to realize that Japanese animation is limited, even by limited animation standards? In any anime, the only movements (when there isn't a comedy/action scene) are either mouths flapping, or small boring movements like characters walking. I should've played a drinking game when watching this episode to count how many shots there were where literally nothing moved. Then how do you explain Garo? Yuri on Ice? Made in Abyss? Death Parade? Baccano!? Madoka? Ufo Fate? Kaiba? Girl's Last Tour? Zodiac War? Kino? etc. Any of those have better animation than what Mahoutsukai no Yome has shown capable so far. Just because TV anime have more limited animation doesn't mean it doesn't count. Especially when there are plenty of shows in the same medium that has done it better. At least some other shows make up for it with interesting animation and framing. This one hasn't done any of that. Try watching any of those anime you listed (didn't watch Yuri, Kaiba) without the subtitles. Because according to you, "interesting animation" consists of mouths flapping, the exact same generic hand gestures and blinking you see in every anime. Any movement you see in anime that does not consist of an action/comedic scene, will 99% of the time be the exact same movement you've seen in any other anime. Hell, Digibro even called out on this in his Kill la Kill video. You want to see interesting animation from a tv animated series? Watch Regular Show. Avatar the Last Airbender. |
Oct 22, 2017 12:25 PM
#120
Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: LauraBirdie said: Niello said: Nice to see people are so easily pleased. This episode was just plain to me, despite how much I love the chapter in the manga. The scenes toward the end seems so forced, like "Here! you are supposed to feel sentimental here! There's even a lullaby like song to go with it!". Meanwhile, there are so many many still frames that just keep dragging on for longer than they should. Almost like they have to make the scene last as long as the song, but they don't want to do more animation so they just pad it out. It was kind of boring. Please keep your expectations in check. Yes the flying scenes had some lingering stills, but the art style is very detailed and it's a 2 cour show,keeping up this kind of quality in a 2 cour show is to be applauded. The show looks really good so far, don't be unfair because your expectations were too high. I'd rather have something that looks consistent throughout the whole thing that spending all of their time, budget and talent on the first three episodes. The only detailed thing about it is the background. The scene was pretty much static. 2 cour show or not, it's the decision they made to just fill what is supposed to be the climax of the episode with still frames, and I find that it sucks my enjoyment out of it. If they had kept it more tight, it would have worked better. Otherwise, at least use some more interesting framing than uninsipred ones. My expectation is simple. Since this is a medium with moving visuals, colours and sounds, I expect an enhanced experience of what I have read in the manga. If it fails to do that then I think it is perfectly normal to get disappointed, which I am. The way you said it also made it sounds like it's good for One Piece to have the shitty animation it is getting. It didn't fail though. That's the point here. Well, in my opinion it failed, especially when you compare it to adaptation of lesser known manga like Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryouko and Houseki no Kuni. I feel like I'm watching an adaptation that is lacking. Despite that I enjoyed the chapter, this episode feels flat and didn't resonate with me. For me it's a lacking adaptation, though that in no way means that I think the content of the episode is lacking. It's just the execution is uninspired ihmo and for me that is a big deal. If an anime is only good because it is riding on the strenght of its source material and not offering much of its own, then I'm not going to think too highly of it. They nailed the music, that was awesome. The art is also pretty good. However, the still frames and rather mediocre animation so far is not winning me over. It doesn't need to offer anything of it's own if it's already a good, faithful adaptation. Plus, the animation is mediocre? I know we watched the same episode here, so I really don't see how you think that. They might have paused a little too long on certain shots during that dream scene I admit, but the rest of the episode was undoubtedly beautiful. This is easily one ofthe best looking shows of the season. Care to tell me how the episode was well animated? Are you sure you aren't mistaking art and aesthetic for animation? Also, no, I don't think it is already good. I find the episode quite boring in fact. If the episode itself is truly good, I wouldn't be here with my complaint. Also, this is a strong season, much more than the rest of the year, so I can't help it if my standard is higher here. Care to tell me how it's not? I mean, literally everyone else is saying it's good. You're in the extreme minority. You're saying it's badly animated as a whole because of one scene. When is the animation in this episode actually good? I haven't seen any. The animation is very limited and uninspired. Only the art is pretty. In the entire episode there is very little movement that is worthy of note. And even in the part with more animation, they don't stand out. It's not just a single scene. You can clearly see that animation isn't all that presence throughout the whole episode. So what if I'm in the extreme minority? I care about quality, what's wrong with that? Why are you so keen at harping on me anyway? How many years will it take for the anime community to realize that Japanese animation is limited, even by limited animation standards? In any anime, the only movements (when there isn't a comedy/action scene) are either mouths flapping, or small boring movements like characters walking. I should've played a drinking game when watching this episode to count how many shots there were where literally nothing moved. Then how do you explain Garo? Yuri on Ice? Made in Abyss? Death Parade? Baccano!? Madoka? Ufo Fate? Kaiba? Girl's Last Tour? Zodiac War? Kino? etc. Any of those have better animation than what Mahoutsukai no Yome has shown capable so far. Just because TV anime have more limited animation doesn't mean it doesn't count. Especially when there are plenty of shows in the same medium that has done it better. At least some other shows make up for it with interesting animation and framing. This one hasn't done any of that. Just drop it. No one wants to see you complain about nothing every week. |
Oct 22, 2017 12:30 PM
#121
ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: LauraBirdie said: Niello said: Nice to see people are so easily pleased. This episode was just plain to me, despite how much I love the chapter in the manga. The scenes toward the end seems so forced, like "Here! you are supposed to feel sentimental here! There's even a lullaby like song to go with it!". Meanwhile, there are so many many still frames that just keep dragging on for longer than they should. Almost like they have to make the scene last as long as the song, but they don't want to do more animation so they just pad it out. It was kind of boring. Please keep your expectations in check. Yes the flying scenes had some lingering stills, but the art style is very detailed and it's a 2 cour show,keeping up this kind of quality in a 2 cour show is to be applauded. The show looks really good so far, don't be unfair because your expectations were too high. I'd rather have something that looks consistent throughout the whole thing that spending all of their time, budget and talent on the first three episodes. The only detailed thing about it is the background. The scene was pretty much static. 2 cour show or not, it's the decision they made to just fill what is supposed to be the climax of the episode with still frames, and I find that it sucks my enjoyment out of it. If they had kept it more tight, it would have worked better. Otherwise, at least use some more interesting framing than uninsipred ones. My expectation is simple. Since this is a medium with moving visuals, colours and sounds, I expect an enhanced experience of what I have read in the manga. If it fails to do that then I think it is perfectly normal to get disappointed, which I am. The way you said it also made it sounds like it's good for One Piece to have the shitty animation it is getting. It didn't fail though. That's the point here. Well, in my opinion it failed, especially when you compare it to adaptation of lesser known manga like Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryouko and Houseki no Kuni. I feel like I'm watching an adaptation that is lacking. Despite that I enjoyed the chapter, this episode feels flat and didn't resonate with me. For me it's a lacking adaptation, though that in no way means that I think the content of the episode is lacking. It's just the execution is uninspired ihmo and for me that is a big deal. If an anime is only good because it is riding on the strenght of its source material and not offering much of its own, then I'm not going to think too highly of it. They nailed the music, that was awesome. The art is also pretty good. However, the still frames and rather mediocre animation so far is not winning me over. It doesn't need to offer anything of it's own if it's already a good, faithful adaptation. Plus, the animation is mediocre? I know we watched the same episode here, so I really don't see how you think that. They might have paused a little too long on certain shots during that dream scene I admit, but the rest of the episode was undoubtedly beautiful. This is easily one ofthe best looking shows of the season. Care to tell me how the episode was well animated? Are you sure you aren't mistaking art and aesthetic for animation? Also, no, I don't think it is already good. I find the episode quite boring in fact. If the episode itself is truly good, I wouldn't be here with my complaint. Also, this is a strong season, much more than the rest of the year, so I can't help it if my standard is higher here. Care to tell me how it's not? I mean, literally everyone else is saying it's good. You're in the extreme minority. You're saying it's badly animated as a whole because of one scene. When is the animation in this episode actually good? I haven't seen any. The animation is very limited and uninspired. Only the art is pretty. In the entire episode there is very little movement that is worthy of note. And even in the part with more animation, they don't stand out. It's not just a single scene. You can clearly see that animation isn't all that presence throughout the whole episode. So what if I'm in the extreme minority? I care about quality, what's wrong with that? Why are you so keen at harping on me anyway? How many years will it take for the anime community to realize that Japanese animation is limited, even by limited animation standards? In any anime, the only movements (when there isn't a comedy/action scene) are either mouths flapping, or small boring movements like characters walking. I should've played a drinking game when watching this episode to count how many shots there were where literally nothing moved. Then how do you explain Garo? Yuri on Ice? Made in Abyss? Death Parade? Baccano!? Madoka? Ufo Fate? Kaiba? Girl's Last Tour? Zodiac War? Kino? etc. Any of those have better animation than what Mahoutsukai no Yome has shown capable so far. Just because TV anime have more limited animation doesn't mean it doesn't count. Especially when there are plenty of shows in the same medium that has done it better. At least some other shows make up for it with interesting animation and framing. This one hasn't done any of that. Try watching any of those anime you listed (didn't watch Yuri, Kaiba) without the subtitles. Because according to you, "interesting animation" consists of mouths flapping, the exact same generic hand gestures and blinking you see in every anime. Any movement you see in anime that does not consist of an action/comedic scene, will 99% of the time be the exact same movement you've seen in any other anime. Hell, Digibro even called out on this in his Kill la Kill video. You want to see interesting animation from a tv animated series? Watch Regular Show. Avatar the Last Airbender. Those are still better than Mahoutsukai no Yome this episode. Aso, by interesting animation I am taking about sakuga, interesting shot composition and whatsnot. This show has done poorly when it comes to those. |
Oct 22, 2017 12:38 PM
#122
Kittens-kun said: Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: LauraBirdie said: Niello said: Nice to see people are so easily pleased. This episode was just plain to me, despite how much I love the chapter in the manga. The scenes toward the end seems so forced, like "Here! you are supposed to feel sentimental here! There's even a lullaby like song to go with it!". Meanwhile, there are so many many still frames that just keep dragging on for longer than they should. Almost like they have to make the scene last as long as the song, but they don't want to do more animation so they just pad it out. It was kind of boring. Please keep your expectations in check. Yes the flying scenes had some lingering stills, but the art style is very detailed and it's a 2 cour show,keeping up this kind of quality in a 2 cour show is to be applauded. The show looks really good so far, don't be unfair because your expectations were too high. I'd rather have something that looks consistent throughout the whole thing that spending all of their time, budget and talent on the first three episodes. The only detailed thing about it is the background. The scene was pretty much static. 2 cour show or not, it's the decision they made to just fill what is supposed to be the climax of the episode with still frames, and I find that it sucks my enjoyment out of it. If they had kept it more tight, it would have worked better. Otherwise, at least use some more interesting framing than uninsipred ones. My expectation is simple. Since this is a medium with moving visuals, colours and sounds, I expect an enhanced experience of what I have read in the manga. If it fails to do that then I think it is perfectly normal to get disappointed, which I am. The way you said it also made it sounds like it's good for One Piece to have the shitty animation it is getting. It didn't fail though. That's the point here. Well, in my opinion it failed, especially when you compare it to adaptation of lesser known manga like Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryouko and Houseki no Kuni. I feel like I'm watching an adaptation that is lacking. Despite that I enjoyed the chapter, this episode feels flat and didn't resonate with me. For me it's a lacking adaptation, though that in no way means that I think the content of the episode is lacking. It's just the execution is uninspired ihmo and for me that is a big deal. If an anime is only good because it is riding on the strenght of its source material and not offering much of its own, then I'm not going to think too highly of it. They nailed the music, that was awesome. The art is also pretty good. However, the still frames and rather mediocre animation so far is not winning me over. It doesn't need to offer anything of it's own if it's already a good, faithful adaptation. Plus, the animation is mediocre? I know we watched the same episode here, so I really don't see how you think that. They might have paused a little too long on certain shots during that dream scene I admit, but the rest of the episode was undoubtedly beautiful. This is easily one ofthe best looking shows of the season. Care to tell me how the episode was well animated? Are you sure you aren't mistaking art and aesthetic for animation? Also, no, I don't think it is already good. I find the episode quite boring in fact. If the episode itself is truly good, I wouldn't be here with my complaint. Also, this is a strong season, much more than the rest of the year, so I can't help it if my standard is higher here. Care to tell me how it's not? I mean, literally everyone else is saying it's good. You're in the extreme minority. You're saying it's badly animated as a whole because of one scene. When is the animation in this episode actually good? I haven't seen any. The animation is very limited and uninspired. Only the art is pretty. In the entire episode there is very little movement that is worthy of note. And even in the part with more animation, they don't stand out. It's not just a single scene. You can clearly see that animation isn't all that presence throughout the whole episode. So what if I'm in the extreme minority? I care about quality, what's wrong with that? Why are you so keen at harping on me anyway? How many years will it take for the anime community to realize that Japanese animation is limited, even by limited animation standards? In any anime, the only movements (when there isn't a comedy/action scene) are either mouths flapping, or small boring movements like characters walking. I should've played a drinking game when watching this episode to count how many shots there were where literally nothing moved. Then how do you explain Garo? Yuri on Ice? Made in Abyss? Death Parade? Baccano!? Madoka? Ufo Fate? Kaiba? Girl's Last Tour? Zodiac War? Kino? etc. Any of those have better animation than what Mahoutsukai no Yome has shown capable so far. Just because TV anime have more limited animation doesn't mean it doesn't count. Especially when there are plenty of shows in the same medium that has done it better. At least some other shows make up for it with interesting animation and framing. This one hasn't done any of that. Just drop it. No one wants to see you complain about nothing every week. I'm not complaining about it every week. Besides, are you really that delicate that you can't stand opinions that don't allign with yours? Are you telling me that this show has been perfect so far that any criticisms is unwarranted? The moment I said anything negative about the show, even if I gave reason for it, people act like petty fanboys. |
Oct 22, 2017 12:42 PM
#123
The weakest episode so far I think. I found this to be fairly boring. Visuals are still a treat though. |
Oct 22, 2017 12:45 PM
#124
Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: LauraBirdie said: Niello said: Nice to see people are so easily pleased. This episode was just plain to me, despite how much I love the chapter in the manga. The scenes toward the end seems so forced, like "Here! you are supposed to feel sentimental here! There's even a lullaby like song to go with it!". Meanwhile, there are so many many still frames that just keep dragging on for longer than they should. Almost like they have to make the scene last as long as the song, but they don't want to do more animation so they just pad it out. It was kind of boring. Please keep your expectations in check. Yes the flying scenes had some lingering stills, but the art style is very detailed and it's a 2 cour show,keeping up this kind of quality in a 2 cour show is to be applauded. The show looks really good so far, don't be unfair because your expectations were too high. I'd rather have something that looks consistent throughout the whole thing that spending all of their time, budget and talent on the first three episodes. The only detailed thing about it is the background. The scene was pretty much static. 2 cour show or not, it's the decision they made to just fill what is supposed to be the climax of the episode with still frames, and I find that it sucks my enjoyment out of it. If they had kept it more tight, it would have worked better. Otherwise, at least use some more interesting framing than uninsipred ones. My expectation is simple. Since this is a medium with moving visuals, colours and sounds, I expect an enhanced experience of what I have read in the manga. If it fails to do that then I think it is perfectly normal to get disappointed, which I am. The way you said it also made it sounds like it's good for One Piece to have the shitty animation it is getting. It didn't fail though. That's the point here. Well, in my opinion it failed, especially when you compare it to adaptation of lesser known manga like Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryouko and Houseki no Kuni. I feel like I'm watching an adaptation that is lacking. Despite that I enjoyed the chapter, this episode feels flat and didn't resonate with me. For me it's a lacking adaptation, though that in no way means that I think the content of the episode is lacking. It's just the execution is uninspired ihmo and for me that is a big deal. If an anime is only good because it is riding on the strenght of its source material and not offering much of its own, then I'm not going to think too highly of it. They nailed the music, that was awesome. The art is also pretty good. However, the still frames and rather mediocre animation so far is not winning me over. It doesn't need to offer anything of it's own if it's already a good, faithful adaptation. Plus, the animation is mediocre? I know we watched the same episode here, so I really don't see how you think that. They might have paused a little too long on certain shots during that dream scene I admit, but the rest of the episode was undoubtedly beautiful. This is easily one ofthe best looking shows of the season. Care to tell me how the episode was well animated? Are you sure you aren't mistaking art and aesthetic for animation? Also, no, I don't think it is already good. I find the episode quite boring in fact. If the episode itself is truly good, I wouldn't be here with my complaint. Also, this is a strong season, much more than the rest of the year, so I can't help it if my standard is higher here. Care to tell me how it's not? I mean, literally everyone else is saying it's good. You're in the extreme minority. You're saying it's badly animated as a whole because of one scene. When is the animation in this episode actually good? I haven't seen any. The animation is very limited and uninspired. Only the art is pretty. In the entire episode there is very little movement that is worthy of note. And even in the part with more animation, they don't stand out. It's not just a single scene. You can clearly see that animation isn't all that presence throughout the whole episode. So what if I'm in the extreme minority? I care about quality, what's wrong with that? Why are you so keen at harping on me anyway? How many years will it take for the anime community to realize that Japanese animation is limited, even by limited animation standards? In any anime, the only movements (when there isn't a comedy/action scene) are either mouths flapping, or small boring movements like characters walking. I should've played a drinking game when watching this episode to count how many shots there were where literally nothing moved. Then how do you explain Garo? Yuri on Ice? Made in Abyss? Death Parade? Baccano!? Madoka? Ufo Fate? Kaiba? Girl's Last Tour? Zodiac War? Kino? etc. Any of those have better animation than what Mahoutsukai no Yome has shown capable so far. Just because TV anime have more limited animation doesn't mean it doesn't count. Especially when there are plenty of shows in the same medium that has done it better. At least some other shows make up for it with interesting animation and framing. This one hasn't done any of that. Just drop it. No one wants to see you complain about nothing every week. I'm not complaining about it every week. Besides, are you really that delicate that you can't stand opinions that don't allign with yours? Are you telling me that this show has been perfect so far that any criticisms is unwarranted? The moment I said anything negative about the show, even if I gave reason for it, people act like petty fanboys. You can criticize it if you want, just come up with actul criticism. Saying the animation is shit when it obviously isn't, is not a criticism. Plus, just because you back your claims up, doesn't mean they're actually good complaints. If your reasoning is bad, then so is your argument. |
Oct 22, 2017 12:48 PM
#125
Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: LauraBirdie said: Niello said: Nice to see people are so easily pleased. This episode was just plain to me, despite how much I love the chapter in the manga. The scenes toward the end seems so forced, like "Here! you are supposed to feel sentimental here! There's even a lullaby like song to go with it!". Meanwhile, there are so many many still frames that just keep dragging on for longer than they should. Almost like they have to make the scene last as long as the song, but they don't want to do more animation so they just pad it out. It was kind of boring. Please keep your expectations in check. Yes the flying scenes had some lingering stills, but the art style is very detailed and it's a 2 cour show,keeping up this kind of quality in a 2 cour show is to be applauded. The show looks really good so far, don't be unfair because your expectations were too high. I'd rather have something that looks consistent throughout the whole thing that spending all of their time, budget and talent on the first three episodes. The only detailed thing about it is the background. The scene was pretty much static. 2 cour show or not, it's the decision they made to just fill what is supposed to be the climax of the episode with still frames, and I find that it sucks my enjoyment out of it. If they had kept it more tight, it would have worked better. Otherwise, at least use some more interesting framing than uninsipred ones. My expectation is simple. Since this is a medium with moving visuals, colours and sounds, I expect an enhanced experience of what I have read in the manga. If it fails to do that then I think it is perfectly normal to get disappointed, which I am. The way you said it also made it sounds like it's good for One Piece to have the shitty animation it is getting. It didn't fail though. That's the point here. Well, in my opinion it failed, especially when you compare it to adaptation of lesser known manga like Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryouko and Houseki no Kuni. I feel like I'm watching an adaptation that is lacking. Despite that I enjoyed the chapter, this episode feels flat and didn't resonate with me. For me it's a lacking adaptation, though that in no way means that I think the content of the episode is lacking. It's just the execution is uninspired ihmo and for me that is a big deal. If an anime is only good because it is riding on the strenght of its source material and not offering much of its own, then I'm not going to think too highly of it. They nailed the music, that was awesome. The art is also pretty good. However, the still frames and rather mediocre animation so far is not winning me over. It doesn't need to offer anything of it's own if it's already a good, faithful adaptation. Plus, the animation is mediocre? I know we watched the same episode here, so I really don't see how you think that. They might have paused a little too long on certain shots during that dream scene I admit, but the rest of the episode was undoubtedly beautiful. This is easily one ofthe best looking shows of the season. Care to tell me how the episode was well animated? Are you sure you aren't mistaking art and aesthetic for animation? Also, no, I don't think it is already good. I find the episode quite boring in fact. If the episode itself is truly good, I wouldn't be here with my complaint. Also, this is a strong season, much more than the rest of the year, so I can't help it if my standard is higher here. Care to tell me how it's not? I mean, literally everyone else is saying it's good. You're in the extreme minority. You're saying it's badly animated as a whole because of one scene. When is the animation in this episode actually good? I haven't seen any. The animation is very limited and uninspired. Only the art is pretty. In the entire episode there is very little movement that is worthy of note. And even in the part with more animation, they don't stand out. It's not just a single scene. You can clearly see that animation isn't all that presence throughout the whole episode. So what if I'm in the extreme minority? I care about quality, what's wrong with that? Why are you so keen at harping on me anyway? How many years will it take for the anime community to realize that Japanese animation is limited, even by limited animation standards? In any anime, the only movements (when there isn't a comedy/action scene) are either mouths flapping, or small boring movements like characters walking. I should've played a drinking game when watching this episode to count how many shots there were where literally nothing moved. Then how do you explain Garo? Yuri on Ice? Made in Abyss? Death Parade? Baccano!? Madoka? Ufo Fate? Kaiba? Girl's Last Tour? Zodiac War? Kino? etc. Any of those have better animation than what Mahoutsukai no Yome has shown capable so far. Just because TV anime have more limited animation doesn't mean it doesn't count. Especially when there are plenty of shows in the same medium that has done it better. At least some other shows make up for it with interesting animation and framing. This one hasn't done any of that. Try watching any of those anime you listed (didn't watch Yuri, Kaiba) without the subtitles. Because according to you, "interesting animation" consists of mouths flapping, the exact same generic hand gestures and blinking you see in every anime. Any movement you see in anime that does not consist of an action/comedic scene, will 99% of the time be the exact same movement you've seen in any other anime. Hell, Digibro even called out on this in his Kill la Kill video. You want to see interesting animation from a tv animated series? Watch Regular Show. Avatar the Last Airbender. Those are still better than Mahoutsukai no Yome this episode. Really? Because I don't see the difference. I think you're just biased, or weren't paying attention to how much actual movement was in those anime. Niello said: Aso, by interesting animation I am taking about sakuga, interesting shot composition and whatsnot. This show has done poorly when it comes to those. Sakuga only appears in the very few "dramatic moments" in any anime, and Yome hasn't gotten dramatic yet. "Shot composition" Animation is movement. Composition is the placement of objects within a shot. I don't think you even know what animation means. |
Oct 22, 2017 12:50 PM
#126
This episode was very enjoyable. The dragons were fascinating, both the small hatch-lings as well as Nervin. His dream sequence with Chise was beautiful, in both sound and animation. I hope Chise is okay, as she did faint at the end of the episode. I'm sure she'll get stronger, both mentally and physically, as the series goes on. One surprisingly funny part was the dragon that carried Chise to the dragon haven itself. After being told to drop Chise, it simply threw her into the lake. XD |
Oct 22, 2017 1:50 PM
#128
Great episode with beautiful scenery and stunning visuals. We're introduced to how dragons live in the modern world. Chise playing with yong dragons is adorable) Liked new presented character, Lindel. The scene of Nevin's departure was very touching. |
Oct 22, 2017 2:58 PM
#129
Oct 22, 2017 3:04 PM
#130
This is such a good season for anime it's actually just silly. The amount of 10's airing right now is mind-boggling. |
Oct 22, 2017 4:35 PM
#131
Brilliant episode. It was a surprising start and I wasn’t expecting the comedy moment when Chise was dropped into the water. So many beautiful scenes in this. The Land of The Dragons was incredible and the story with Nevin made this a real winner. Hard to believe this was all put together in a single episode to be honest. Loved it. Can’t wait to see the next one. |
Oct 22, 2017 8:13 PM
#132
Another amazing episode! Really enjoyed the moment when Chise was flying. It was a very beautiful moment, the animation and the sound made it even better! They did such a great job with this episode, love this even more now. This anime is so gorgeous, can't wait for more! |
Oct 22, 2017 10:20 PM
#133
I'm glad she didn't jump either, but damn. That was sad. Chise sure had a rough childhood, huh :/ The dream sequence with the music in the background was so nice. And then the moment when Nevin turned into a tree... ahh, such a beautiful episode. |
Oct 23, 2017 4:12 AM
#134
Oh shoot, we didn't just get dragons, we got dinosaurs... Oh... there all supposed to be dragons... okay. THEY FREAKIN GREAT NO MATTER WHAT KIND OF DRAGONS THEY ARE. Seriously, dragons are awesome and anyone who doesn't agree just don't understand. And this episode was beautiful. |
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Oct 23, 2017 5:23 AM
#135
This is so gold. If it keeps it up is going to be a masterpiece indeed. |
Oct 23, 2017 9:01 AM
#136
This is so boring, everything is so boring, I just don't get the point of this anime. there is nothing remarkable about it. every single comments here are basically "WOW PRETTY COLOR". I guess there is 1 good thing here, which is the spanish guitar style part in the opening theme, though the singer sucks real bad. I guess this is just another overhyped scenery porn and pretty color a.k.a "wow the book cover is so good" let's try 1 more episode |
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Oct 23, 2017 9:02 AM
#137
GangsterCat said: This is so boring, everything is so boring, I just don't get the point of this anime. there is nothing remarkable about it. every single comments here are basically "WOW PRETTY COLOR" I guess this is just another overhyped scenery porn and pretty color a.k.a "wow the book cover is so good" let's try 1 more episode It's not overhyped. |
Oct 23, 2017 9:29 AM
#138
I'm so happy that they did Linden and Nevin's introduction arc justice. It's one of my favorite scenes and parts of the series, so poignant yet uplifting at the same time. What is the music for the flight scene? I really want to listen to more of it. |
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Oct 23, 2017 9:39 AM
#139
That was a really cool little episode. I like the show's interpretation of dragons. It was different enough to be interesting. But still recognizably rooted in common dragon lore. This episode also had some gorgeous animation. The final flight dream obviously was a stand out. But it was consistently beautiful throughout. This seems like such a simple show but I'm really enjoying it. Even as it clumsily tries to pique our interest about the "sleigh beggy." And indulges in melodrama that damn near romanticizes suicide. It's just a prettily animated show with great music. And immediately recognizable and likable characters. Can't wait for more. |
Oct 23, 2017 11:11 AM
#140
This episode had amazing presentation, a touching story, the same beautiful animation that ive come to expect now and it flew by so fast because of how engrossed i was in it. The further the show goes the more interested i am becoming and the more i find this world and these characters to be interesting and fleshed out. I even have decided to look into the manga now because of the ova's and these first few episodes. I cant wait to see if it keeps improving upon all the good will its shown me so far and turns into a favorite, which i can see happening more and more as each ep passes. At the very least, its my favorite so far of the season! |
Oct 23, 2017 2:06 PM
#141
Very Boring I could barely force myself to watch it couldnt care less about it, also as expected this show turning to be mindless slice of life with magic as background element,DROPPED |
Oct 23, 2017 3:04 PM
#142
My gosh, I love this show. You can tell that there's a lot of passion involved in creating this anime as well. This is already becoming one of my all-time favorite animes. |
Oct 23, 2017 4:12 PM
#143
this episode had me feeling sad towards the end, almost had me crying. still was a good episode though. |
Oct 23, 2017 4:40 PM
#144
Some of the lines in this episode are very important. Nevin said: You are a kind-hearted child. Nevin said: The living shouldn't envy the dead. Chise said: I'm not sad. He was just like a stranger who happened to show me some kindness. Lindel said: She won't last three years unless you stop her. Knowing how significant these words become with the progression of the story later on gives me goosebumps. |
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Oct 23, 2017 5:40 PM
#145
omg, this episode was absolutely incredible, I cried all over my pillow watching it. I can't wait for the next episode. This whole series is a 10/10 so far, utterly amazing. I burst into tears when he said "生きるものが、死者を羨むものじゃない" - The whole story resonates deeply with me. |
PalePurpleOct 23, 2017 5:50 PM
落下のように、いつも落ちる。いつか救われることができるのかな? または落ち続けるでしょうか?永遠に |
Oct 23, 2017 6:05 PM
#146
ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: LauraBirdie said: Niello said: Nice to see people are so easily pleased. This episode was just plain to me, despite how much I love the chapter in the manga. The scenes toward the end seems so forced, like "Here! you are supposed to feel sentimental here! There's even a lullaby like song to go with it!". Meanwhile, there are so many many still frames that just keep dragging on for longer than they should. Almost like they have to make the scene last as long as the song, but they don't want to do more animation so they just pad it out. It was kind of boring. Please keep your expectations in check. Yes the flying scenes had some lingering stills, but the art style is very detailed and it's a 2 cour show,keeping up this kind of quality in a 2 cour show is to be applauded. The show looks really good so far, don't be unfair because your expectations were too high. I'd rather have something that looks consistent throughout the whole thing that spending all of their time, budget and talent on the first three episodes. The only detailed thing about it is the background. The scene was pretty much static. 2 cour show or not, it's the decision they made to just fill what is supposed to be the climax of the episode with still frames, and I find that it sucks my enjoyment out of it. If they had kept it more tight, it would have worked better. Otherwise, at least use some more interesting framing than uninsipred ones. My expectation is simple. Since this is a medium with moving visuals, colours and sounds, I expect an enhanced experience of what I have read in the manga. If it fails to do that then I think it is perfectly normal to get disappointed, which I am. The way you said it also made it sounds like it's good for One Piece to have the shitty animation it is getting. It didn't fail though. That's the point here. Well, in my opinion it failed, especially when you compare it to adaptation of lesser known manga like Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryouko and Houseki no Kuni. I feel like I'm watching an adaptation that is lacking. Despite that I enjoyed the chapter, this episode feels flat and didn't resonate with me. For me it's a lacking adaptation, though that in no way means that I think the content of the episode is lacking. It's just the execution is uninspired ihmo and for me that is a big deal. If an anime is only good because it is riding on the strenght of its source material and not offering much of its own, then I'm not going to think too highly of it. They nailed the music, that was awesome. The art is also pretty good. However, the still frames and rather mediocre animation so far is not winning me over. It doesn't need to offer anything of it's own if it's already a good, faithful adaptation. Plus, the animation is mediocre? I know we watched the same episode here, so I really don't see how you think that. They might have paused a little too long on certain shots during that dream scene I admit, but the rest of the episode was undoubtedly beautiful. This is easily one ofthe best looking shows of the season. Care to tell me how the episode was well animated? Are you sure you aren't mistaking art and aesthetic for animation? Also, no, I don't think it is already good. I find the episode quite boring in fact. If the episode itself is truly good, I wouldn't be here with my complaint. Also, this is a strong season, much more than the rest of the year, so I can't help it if my standard is higher here. Care to tell me how it's not? I mean, literally everyone else is saying it's good. You're in the extreme minority. You're saying it's badly animated as a whole because of one scene. When is the animation in this episode actually good? I haven't seen any. The animation is very limited and uninspired. Only the art is pretty. In the entire episode there is very little movement that is worthy of note. And even in the part with more animation, they don't stand out. It's not just a single scene. You can clearly see that animation isn't all that presence throughout the whole episode. So what if I'm in the extreme minority? I care about quality, what's wrong with that? Why are you so keen at harping on me anyway? How many years will it take for the anime community to realize that Japanese animation is limited, even by limited animation standards? In any anime, the only movements (when there isn't a comedy/action scene) are either mouths flapping, or small boring movements like characters walking. I should've played a drinking game when watching this episode to count how many shots there were where literally nothing moved. Then how do you explain Garo? Yuri on Ice? Made in Abyss? Death Parade? Baccano!? Madoka? Ufo Fate? Kaiba? Girl's Last Tour? Zodiac War? Kino? etc. Any of those have better animation than what Mahoutsukai no Yome has shown capable so far. Just because TV anime have more limited animation doesn't mean it doesn't count. Especially when there are plenty of shows in the same medium that has done it better. At least some other shows make up for it with interesting animation and framing. This one hasn't done any of that. Try watching any of those anime you listed (didn't watch Yuri, Kaiba) without the subtitles. Because according to you, "interesting animation" consists of mouths flapping, the exact same generic hand gestures and blinking you see in every anime. Any movement you see in anime that does not consist of an action/comedic scene, will 99% of the time be the exact same movement you've seen in any other anime. Hell, Digibro even called out on this in his Kill la Kill video. You want to see interesting animation from a tv animated series? Watch Regular Show. Avatar the Last Airbender. Those are still better than Mahoutsukai no Yome this episode. Really? Because I don't see the difference. I think you're just biased, or weren't paying attention to how much actual movement was in those anime. Niello said: Aso, by interesting animation I am taking about sakuga, interesting shot composition and whatsnot. This show has done poorly when it comes to those. Sakuga only appears in the very few "dramatic moments" in any anime, and Yome hasn't gotten dramatic yet. "Shot composition" Animation is movement. Composition is the placement of objects within a shot. I don't think you even know what animation means. Quoting this whole thread, rather than one particular person. My thoughts are that this medium is meant to tell a story. That comes first. If it was being entered into a animation contest, perhaps the critiques would be valid, but just because it's called "animation" doesn't mean it needs people dancing around in the background during a somber scene so you can have your fill of "movement." It doesn't matter how technical the animation was, what matters is that it conveyed the story, and for that it had exactly the right amount of everything, in my opinion. Yes, the book/manga is always better, but in that case, don't watch the anime. No matter what, it will never live up to your expectations, because the imagination is better than any animation, always. Anime is primarily made to inspire people to go find the source material and purchase/read it, not really the other way around. |
落下のように、いつも落ちる。いつか救われることができるのかな? または落ち続けるでしょうか?永遠に |
Oct 23, 2017 6:15 PM
#147
I really can't wait for all the episodes to come out so I can re watch the season over and over xD . this animation is beautiful, its following the manga and if it keeps doing so this is going to be a freaking amazing show ahh so happy and excited |
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Oct 23, 2017 7:07 PM
#148
PalePurple said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: LauraBirdie said: Niello said: Nice to see people are so easily pleased. This episode was just plain to me, despite how much I love the chapter in the manga. The scenes toward the end seems so forced, like "Here! you are supposed to feel sentimental here! There's even a lullaby like song to go with it!". Meanwhile, there are so many many still frames that just keep dragging on for longer than they should. Almost like they have to make the scene last as long as the song, but they don't want to do more animation so they just pad it out. It was kind of boring. Please keep your expectations in check. Yes the flying scenes had some lingering stills, but the art style is very detailed and it's a 2 cour show,keeping up this kind of quality in a 2 cour show is to be applauded. The show looks really good so far, don't be unfair because your expectations were too high. I'd rather have something that looks consistent throughout the whole thing that spending all of their time, budget and talent on the first three episodes. The only detailed thing about it is the background. The scene was pretty much static. 2 cour show or not, it's the decision they made to just fill what is supposed to be the climax of the episode with still frames, and I find that it sucks my enjoyment out of it. If they had kept it more tight, it would have worked better. Otherwise, at least use some more interesting framing than uninsipred ones. My expectation is simple. Since this is a medium with moving visuals, colours and sounds, I expect an enhanced experience of what I have read in the manga. If it fails to do that then I think it is perfectly normal to get disappointed, which I am. The way you said it also made it sounds like it's good for One Piece to have the shitty animation it is getting. It didn't fail though. That's the point here. Well, in my opinion it failed, especially when you compare it to adaptation of lesser known manga like Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryouko and Houseki no Kuni. I feel like I'm watching an adaptation that is lacking. Despite that I enjoyed the chapter, this episode feels flat and didn't resonate with me. For me it's a lacking adaptation, though that in no way means that I think the content of the episode is lacking. It's just the execution is uninspired ihmo and for me that is a big deal. If an anime is only good because it is riding on the strenght of its source material and not offering much of its own, then I'm not going to think too highly of it. They nailed the music, that was awesome. The art is also pretty good. However, the still frames and rather mediocre animation so far is not winning me over. It doesn't need to offer anything of it's own if it's already a good, faithful adaptation. Plus, the animation is mediocre? I know we watched the same episode here, so I really don't see how you think that. They might have paused a little too long on certain shots during that dream scene I admit, but the rest of the episode was undoubtedly beautiful. This is easily one ofthe best looking shows of the season. Care to tell me how the episode was well animated? Are you sure you aren't mistaking art and aesthetic for animation? Also, no, I don't think it is already good. I find the episode quite boring in fact. If the episode itself is truly good, I wouldn't be here with my complaint. Also, this is a strong season, much more than the rest of the year, so I can't help it if my standard is higher here. Care to tell me how it's not? I mean, literally everyone else is saying it's good. You're in the extreme minority. You're saying it's badly animated as a whole because of one scene. When is the animation in this episode actually good? I haven't seen any. The animation is very limited and uninspired. Only the art is pretty. In the entire episode there is very little movement that is worthy of note. And even in the part with more animation, they don't stand out. It's not just a single scene. You can clearly see that animation isn't all that presence throughout the whole episode. So what if I'm in the extreme minority? I care about quality, what's wrong with that? Why are you so keen at harping on me anyway? How many years will it take for the anime community to realize that Japanese animation is limited, even by limited animation standards? In any anime, the only movements (when there isn't a comedy/action scene) are either mouths flapping, or small boring movements like characters walking. I should've played a drinking game when watching this episode to count how many shots there were where literally nothing moved. Then how do you explain Garo? Yuri on Ice? Made in Abyss? Death Parade? Baccano!? Madoka? Ufo Fate? Kaiba? Girl's Last Tour? Zodiac War? Kino? etc. Any of those have better animation than what Mahoutsukai no Yome has shown capable so far. Just because TV anime have more limited animation doesn't mean it doesn't count. Especially when there are plenty of shows in the same medium that has done it better. At least some other shows make up for it with interesting animation and framing. This one hasn't done any of that. Try watching any of those anime you listed (didn't watch Yuri, Kaiba) without the subtitles. Because according to you, "interesting animation" consists of mouths flapping, the exact same generic hand gestures and blinking you see in every anime. Any movement you see in anime that does not consist of an action/comedic scene, will 99% of the time be the exact same movement you've seen in any other anime. Hell, Digibro even called out on this in his Kill la Kill video. You want to see interesting animation from a tv animated series? Watch Regular Show. Avatar the Last Airbender. Those are still better than Mahoutsukai no Yome this episode. Really? Because I don't see the difference. I think you're just biased, or weren't paying attention to how much actual movement was in those anime. Niello said: Aso, by interesting animation I am taking about sakuga, interesting shot composition and whatsnot. This show has done poorly when it comes to those. Sakuga only appears in the very few "dramatic moments" in any anime, and Yome hasn't gotten dramatic yet. "Shot composition" Animation is movement. Composition is the placement of objects within a shot. I don't think you even know what animation means. Quoting this whole thread, rather than one particular person. My thoughts are that this medium is meant to tell a story. That comes first. If it was being entered into a animation contest, perhaps the critiques would be valid, but just because it's called "animation" doesn't mean it needs people dancing around in the background during a somber scene so you can have your fill of "movement." It doesn't matter how technical the animation was, what matters is that it conveyed the story, and for that it had exactly the right amount of everything, in my opinion. Yes, the book/manga is always better, but in that case, don't watch the anime. No matter what, it will never live up to your expectations, because the imagination is better than any animation, always. Anime is primarily made to inspire people to go find the source material and purchase/read it, not really the other way around. You're saying that the animation quality hardly matters...in animation. That's like saying acting, doesn't matter in a movie. "doesn't mean it needs people dancing around in the background during a somber scene" When did anyone say anything that implied this?? Why are people on MAL so desperate to win any argument that they're willing to resort to being strawman?? A little more movement would be appreciated in a dramatic scene than literally nothing moving. If I wanted "realism" I'd watch a live action movie or read a book. |
Oct 24, 2017 2:45 AM
#149
ThatCynicalOtaku said: PalePurple said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: ThatCynicalOtaku said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: Kittens-kun said: Niello said: LauraBirdie said: Niello said: Nice to see people are so easily pleased. This episode was just plain to me, despite how much I love the chapter in the manga. The scenes toward the end seems so forced, like "Here! you are supposed to feel sentimental here! There's even a lullaby like song to go with it!". Meanwhile, there are so many many still frames that just keep dragging on for longer than they should. Almost like they have to make the scene last as long as the song, but they don't want to do more animation so they just pad it out. It was kind of boring. Please keep your expectations in check. Yes the flying scenes had some lingering stills, but the art style is very detailed and it's a 2 cour show,keeping up this kind of quality in a 2 cour show is to be applauded. The show looks really good so far, don't be unfair because your expectations were too high. I'd rather have something that looks consistent throughout the whole thing that spending all of their time, budget and talent on the first three episodes. The only detailed thing about it is the background. The scene was pretty much static. 2 cour show or not, it's the decision they made to just fill what is supposed to be the climax of the episode with still frames, and I find that it sucks my enjoyment out of it. If they had kept it more tight, it would have worked better. Otherwise, at least use some more interesting framing than uninsipred ones. My expectation is simple. Since this is a medium with moving visuals, colours and sounds, I expect an enhanced experience of what I have read in the manga. If it fails to do that then I think it is perfectly normal to get disappointed, which I am. The way you said it also made it sounds like it's good for One Piece to have the shitty animation it is getting. It didn't fail though. That's the point here. Well, in my opinion it failed, especially when you compare it to adaptation of lesser known manga like Shoujo Shuumatsu Ryouko and Houseki no Kuni. I feel like I'm watching an adaptation that is lacking. Despite that I enjoyed the chapter, this episode feels flat and didn't resonate with me. For me it's a lacking adaptation, though that in no way means that I think the content of the episode is lacking. It's just the execution is uninspired ihmo and for me that is a big deal. If an anime is only good because it is riding on the strenght of its source material and not offering much of its own, then I'm not going to think too highly of it. They nailed the music, that was awesome. The art is also pretty good. However, the still frames and rather mediocre animation so far is not winning me over. It doesn't need to offer anything of it's own if it's already a good, faithful adaptation. Plus, the animation is mediocre? I know we watched the same episode here, so I really don't see how you think that. They might have paused a little too long on certain shots during that dream scene I admit, but the rest of the episode was undoubtedly beautiful. This is easily one ofthe best looking shows of the season. Care to tell me how the episode was well animated? Are you sure you aren't mistaking art and aesthetic for animation? Also, no, I don't think it is already good. I find the episode quite boring in fact. If the episode itself is truly good, I wouldn't be here with my complaint. Also, this is a strong season, much more than the rest of the year, so I can't help it if my standard is higher here. Care to tell me how it's not? I mean, literally everyone else is saying it's good. You're in the extreme minority. You're saying it's badly animated as a whole because of one scene. When is the animation in this episode actually good? I haven't seen any. The animation is very limited and uninspired. Only the art is pretty. In the entire episode there is very little movement that is worthy of note. And even in the part with more animation, they don't stand out. It's not just a single scene. You can clearly see that animation isn't all that presence throughout the whole episode. So what if I'm in the extreme minority? I care about quality, what's wrong with that? Why are you so keen at harping on me anyway? How many years will it take for the anime community to realize that Japanese animation is limited, even by limited animation standards? In any anime, the only movements (when there isn't a comedy/action scene) are either mouths flapping, or small boring movements like characters walking. I should've played a drinking game when watching this episode to count how many shots there were where literally nothing moved. Then how do you explain Garo? Yuri on Ice? Made in Abyss? Death Parade? Baccano!? Madoka? Ufo Fate? Kaiba? Girl's Last Tour? Zodiac War? Kino? etc. Any of those have better animation than what Mahoutsukai no Yome has shown capable so far. Just because TV anime have more limited animation doesn't mean it doesn't count. Especially when there are plenty of shows in the same medium that has done it better. At least some other shows make up for it with interesting animation and framing. This one hasn't done any of that. Try watching any of those anime you listed (didn't watch Yuri, Kaiba) without the subtitles. Because according to you, "interesting animation" consists of mouths flapping, the exact same generic hand gestures and blinking you see in every anime. Any movement you see in anime that does not consist of an action/comedic scene, will 99% of the time be the exact same movement you've seen in any other anime. Hell, Digibro even called out on this in his Kill la Kill video. You want to see interesting animation from a tv animated series? Watch Regular Show. Avatar the Last Airbender. Those are still better than Mahoutsukai no Yome this episode. Really? Because I don't see the difference. I think you're just biased, or weren't paying attention to how much actual movement was in those anime. Niello said: Aso, by interesting animation I am taking about sakuga, interesting shot composition and whatsnot. This show has done poorly when it comes to those. Sakuga only appears in the very few "dramatic moments" in any anime, and Yome hasn't gotten dramatic yet. "Shot composition" Animation is movement. Composition is the placement of objects within a shot. I don't think you even know what animation means. Quoting this whole thread, rather than one particular person. My thoughts are that this medium is meant to tell a story. That comes first. If it was being entered into a animation contest, perhaps the critiques would be valid, but just because it's called "animation" doesn't mean it needs people dancing around in the background during a somber scene so you can have your fill of "movement." It doesn't matter how technical the animation was, what matters is that it conveyed the story, and for that it had exactly the right amount of everything, in my opinion. Yes, the book/manga is always better, but in that case, don't watch the anime. No matter what, it will never live up to your expectations, because the imagination is better than any animation, always. Anime is primarily made to inspire people to go find the source material and purchase/read it, not really the other way around. You're saying that the animation quality hardly matters...in animation. That's like saying acting, doesn't matter in a movie. "doesn't mean it needs people dancing around in the background during a somber scene" When did anyone say anything that implied this?? Why are people on MAL so desperate to win any argument that they're willing to resort to being strawman?? A little more movement would be appreciated in a dramatic scene than literally nothing moving. If I wanted "realism" I'd watch a live action movie or read a book. You're not making much sense - I'm being a strawman? Are you inferring I'm setting up a strawman to take down, rather than critique your actual views? Not quite. Reductio ad absurdum, my friend, is used to show the inevitable ridiculous end, to which your argument is headed. Your desire for unnecessary movement during a somber scene is what brought us to this point of conversation in the first place. However, it seems in actuality that you've misrepresented my argument with a strawman in this line : "you're saying that the animation quality hardly matters...in animation." My point, friend, was that the animation was deliberately understated during that scene, so as not to take away from the somber atmosphere. |
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