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Jul 20, 2017 4:04 PM
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I can't help but feel like this is Nisekoi 2.0
my last nail in the coffin for this feeling is that Misaki got the same seiyuu as Kosaki lol

before you rage,
hear me out
I've caught up with both manga and already watch Nisekoi, both season

here's some similarities I realized of both Nisekoi and Koi to Uso:

  • Raku and Kosaki resembles Nejima and Misaki
  • Raku and Kosaki (also Nejima and Misaki) fell in love for each other for a long time
  • you can say Raku and Kosaki (Nejima and Misaki) wasn't really good friends prior to when the story starts, meaning they don't talk much to each other, etc
  • the only defining trait of Raku (and Nejima) is that he's "kind"
  • despite everything, both Misaki and Kosaki tends to bottled up their feelings
  • new girl, tsundere blond girl with twin ponytail, Chitoge (Ririna) suddenly came
  • for some reason, Raku (Nejima) forced to be "together" with the new girl
  • true to being tsundere, Chitoge (Ririna) showing her hatred towards Raku (Nejima) before finally falling for him
  • Chitoge (Ririna) "push" Raku (Nejima) to get together with Kosaki (Misaki)


well, I think all I can say is that much up till now since the story hasn't progress beyond that for Koi to Uso manga
I just hope that Misaki won't "lost" considering she share the same seiyuu as Kosaki

what's big difference between the two is that it didn't take ~200 chapters for characters to start confessing and Misaki got a lot more of a "character" more than Kosaki
also, (so far) Misaki seems to start dating Nejima

what do you guys think?

Jul 20, 2017 7:28 PM
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literally the only similarity is that it's a love triangle

everything is superficial
Jul 20, 2017 9:27 PM
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First Thing is That I hate That Blond bitch from the Get go, I just have this natural hate towards this bitch..I dropped the anime cuz I couldn't bare her anymore.

Ririna is far more different, I don't know why but She is a very nice tsundere and If you read chapter 118 then well She exceels that Blond bitch in everyway possible.

Thing Is It was all about Love and confession in Nisekoi (As far as I saw),I dunno but it doesn't have the tense atmosphere like it is in Koi to uso. The name explains it, Love and lies..Its not about just love, It is also About lies and so Far this Manga has a lot strings to pull. Lot of things unclear and going in a unknown direction, Now people can compare it and say "Blond always wins" "Tsundere wins" E.t.c I don't mind if Lilina wins but There is something more to it that I am looking forward, Something that Only Koi to uso can deliver.

I don't know how Nisekoi was but If it is what you saying "Choosing the best girl" then Koi to uso has lot more to deliver. I am sure after they play their cards no one will ever compare it with any other anime. Its just different. Problem is its progressing very slow. anime might fix this problem.
Jul 21, 2017 2:01 AM
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Yes it is
Even blind people can see how this will end
Jul 21, 2017 2:13 AM
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tragedydesu said:
Yes it is
Even blind people can see how this will end


Lol It hasnt end yet and You obviously don't read the manga.
Jul 21, 2017 2:42 AM
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RagisNex said:
tragedydesu said:
Yes it is
Even blind people can see how this will end


Lol It hasnt end yet and You obviously don't read the manga.

i don't need to read to manga to figure how this will end

it have a different plot from Niskoi but the results are the same
im sure more than 200% that the blonde girl will win
Jul 21, 2017 5:57 AM
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tragedydesu said:
RagisNex said:


Lol It hasnt end yet and You obviously don't read the manga.

i don't need to read to manga to figure how this will end

it have a different plot from Niskoi but the results are the same
im sure more than 200% that the blonde girl will win


Is that a problem? Did blonde girl stole your kid? And She isn't even Blonde!! This manga isn't ending like "I am choosing this Girl cuz I dunno if Other girl like me or not, BTW I am so dense that it doesn't even bother me at all" -MC Kun. Its main Genre is "Drama" and "Romance"...I am watching for Romance and staying for the Drama...This Anime will certainly deliver it..well Its already started, Episode 3 is big example that Plot can hit you from Out of nowhere! Don't underestimate the Plot here, Its slow progress but Plot will play a big role. And one thing too even if Pink hair wins it doesn't mean its Happy Ending for Our MC, In anime we mostly expect a Happy ending for our Main Male and female character(I am sure In Nisekoi that blonde was no.1 bitch so its obviously predictable that she wins)..If Pink hair wins then its the most unexpected. And pls don't bring Nisekoi Reason cuz She is not Blonde!! :D
Jul 21, 2017 6:31 AM
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Yep is a problem for me
im tired of seeing tsunderes win in every harem/love triangle anime .... fuck those bitches
can't we have a harem/love triangle where the nice girl win ?

Koi to uso is just a more dramatic version of Nisekoi deal with it
same relationships same characters development and will have the same ending
Jul 21, 2017 8:11 AM
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tragedydesu said:
@RagisNex
Yep is a problem for me
im tired of seeing tsunderes win in every harem/love triangle anime .... fuck those bitches
can't we have a harem/love triangle where the nice girl win ?

Koi to uso is just a more dramatic version of Nisekoi deal with it
same relationships same characters development and will have the same ending


I like Lilina, She isn't tsundere at all. Most of the review I am seeing is that People actually Surprised that She isn't typical tsundere. Most people loving her way more than MC cuz She is NOT tsundere.

Maybe your Brain is damaged because of all Nisekoi truma (Glad I dropped it after 2 epsidoe) I hope you get well soon, Koi to uso can heel your wound, Even if Lilina Wins cuz I am pretty sure If not now after that scene (Spoiler Go read manga chapter 118) You will change your mind XD
Jul 21, 2017 8:43 AM

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no thx , im not going to touch it
seeing Misaki lose will hurt me even more
Jul 21, 2017 9:57 AM
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tragedydesu said:
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no thx , im not going to touch it
seeing Misaki lose will hurt me even more


Funny thing is Misaki isn't Even Fighting. I still don't empathy with her love cuz its full of mystery and probably "LIES" which is hinted many times. I don't trust her, She comes of Genuine but Still I don't like who hides things in relationships.
Jul 21, 2017 10:41 AM

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i prefer when two people fall in love naturally

2 people who hate each other first and then fall in love after being forced to be in a relationship is disgusting and overused in this medium
Jul 21, 2017 11:02 AM

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RagisNex said:
Funny thing is Misaki isn't Even Fighting. I still don't empathy with her love cuz its full of mystery and probably "LIES" which is hinted many times. I don't trust her, She comes of Genuine but Still I don't like who hides things in relationships.

you need to read the manga to understand what's she's fighting for
well, I already mention that this thread is filled with spoiler anyways, so here goes:

in Koi to Uso's world, the "arranged married" rules started in the MC's parent's generation
Misaki's parents are a rare "original" couple that didn't follow that rule and they ended up getting divorced when she was still small
so seeing all the "arranged married" couple (her friend's) went well, and her parents (an "original") didn't go quite well made this thought in her head quite deep:
"arranged married is better than the original"
but then again, she fell in love "naturally" with Nejima
this make a conflict in her mind

that's what make her character interesting to me
a reasonable thought conflict
this alone make her have a lot more of character than Nisekoi's characters

Jul 21, 2017 11:50 AM
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tragedydesu said:
@RagisNex
i prefer when two people fall in love naturally

2 people who hate each other first and then fall in love after being forced to be in a relationship is disgusting and overused in this medium


And who refering to?? As You can see when Misaki ask Ririna what's she like about Nejima she Answers her saying "He is kind"....Not only that she understand MC lot better than Misaki, And later on They both fell in love (Sorry for spoiling but Misaki fans can die) Moreover they abandon their feelings (Ririna and Nejima both) So that misaki can be happy. She is just too nice, She doesn't have ounce of hatred toward MC in any part of the story.

Again You must be having those Nisekoi Flashbacks..You can drop the show, Your favourite Misaki will lose anyway lol (Although manga still on going) Ririna FTW!!
Jul 21, 2017 11:53 AM
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Zurajannai said:
RagisNex said:
Funny thing is Misaki isn't Even Fighting. I still don't empathy with her love cuz its full of mystery and probably "LIES" which is hinted many times. I don't trust her, She comes of Genuine but Still I don't like who hides things in relationships.

you need to read the manga to understand what's she's fighting for
well, I already mention that this thread is filled with spoiler anyways, so here goes:

in Koi to Uso's world, the "arranged married" rules started in the MC's parent's generation
Misaki's parents are a rare "original" couple that didn't follow that rule and they ended up getting divorced when she was still small
so seeing all the "arranged married" couple (her friend's) went well, and her parents (an "original") didn't go quite well made this thought in her head quite deep:
"arranged married is better than the original"
but then again, she fell in love "naturally" with Nejima
this make a conflict in her mind

that's what make her character interesting to me
a reasonable thought conflict
this alone make her have a lot more of character than Nisekoi's characters


I read the manga quite long ago So I forgot this part of her story But This isn't the main reason right? This is not a reason at all lol, Thing is she is lying about something/Hiding something... Not wanting to marry is one thing and Not marrying because of a secret is another. That white hair girl and Misakis secret isn't out yet right?
Jul 21, 2017 11:54 AM

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don't worry im not watching this disgusting piece of shit

also i hope you enjoy seeing the mc abandon the one he loves for your lovely bitch
cyaa
Jul 21, 2017 12:13 PM
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tragedydesu said:
@RagisNex
don't worry im not watching this disgusting piece of shit

also i hope you enjoy seeing the mc abandon the one he loves for your lovely bitch
cyaa


Good, Now You can go cry in the corner while having Vietnam flashbacks...I mean Nisekoi flashback. enjoy that too :D
Jul 24, 2017 4:53 AM
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First I'm team Chitoge and Lilina (Lilina in manga and Ririna in Anime) I like characters based on their personality and not just because I like blonde or whatsoever. I follow both of the manga to the latest chapter and I watch the anime.

I have to say Nisekoi and Koi to Uso characters share a similar personalities. Especially Misaki and Onodera, they even had the same seiyuu. Lilina and Chitoge is a bit different but they are really likeable for me. Chitoge is a tsundere while Lilina is not a tsundere although at first I suspected MC to meet a tsundere, but eventually she's not one of tsundere, but her character is so unique I have to say, she supported her partner with another girl and always did the best for her partner.

The MC of Nisekoi and Koi to Uso is kind, but besides that, they are different. I like Raku and not Nejima. Why? Nejima really pissed me off, on the first episode Nejima confess to Misaki (or Misaki confess to Nejima, forgot) after the confession, they are kissing. Then following on the manga, Nejima kiss Lilina ( i know this part happen coz only Lilina wanted to try that and Nejima is caught up at the moment). I'm really pissed off at Nejima because of that, I mean, you can't just kiss both of the girl and keep on raising both of the flag. Unlike Nejima, when Raku realised that he liked two person at the same time, he think about it and decide who he REALLY LOVES and then he sorted out all of his feelings and confess to the chosen one.And because all of that I like Nisekoi more than Koi to Uso.

In Koi to Uso i doubt that Lilina will win because usually it'll be MC boy x MC girl. Although it'll be a great twist if Lilina can win. But honestly, Lilina deserve someone better than Nejima.

Actually I want to drop this anime and manga but I came to like Lilina so much, I'm just here to see Lilina's romance.

No rage please, its only me giving my opinion.
Jul 24, 2017 5:37 AM

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First I'm team Chitoge and Lilina (Lilina in manga and Ririna in Anime) I like characters based on their personality and not just because I like blonde or whatsoever. I follow both of the manga to the latest chapter and I watch the anime.

I have to say Nisekoi and Koi to Uso characters share a similar personalities. Especially Misaki and Onodera, they even had the same seiyuu. Lilina and Chitoge is a bit different but they are really likeable for me. Chitoge is a tsundere while Lilina is not a tsundere although at first I suspected MC to meet a tsundere, but eventually she's not one of tsundere, but her character is so unique I have to say, she supported her partner with another girl and always did the best for her partner.

The MC of Nisekoi and Koi to Uso is kind, but besides that, they are different. I like Raku and not Nejima. Why? Nejima really pissed me off, on the first episode Nejima confess to Misaki (or Misaki confess to Nejima, forgot) after the confession, they are kissing. Then following on the manga, Nejima kiss Lilina ( i know this part happen coz only Lilina wanted to try that and Nejima is caught up at the moment). I'm really pissed off at Nejima because of that, I mean, you can't just kiss both of the girl and keep on raising both of the flag. Unlike Nejima, when Raku realised that he liked two person at the same time, he think about it and decide who he REALLY LOVES and then he sorted out all of his feelings and confess to the chosen one.And because all of that I like Nisekoi more than Koi to Uso.

In Koi to Uso i doubt that Lilina will win because usually it'll be MC boy x MC girl. Although it'll be a great twist if Lilina can win. But honestly, Lilina deserve someone better than Nejima.

Actually I want to drop this anime and manga but I came to like Lilina so much, I'm just here to see Lilina's romance.

No rage please, its only me giving my opinion.

no need indeed :)
while I have to disagree since like Misaki/Onodera more, part of it maybe because I REALLY like KanaHana, to the point that I still watch both series even though I already read the manga XD
but I can get your point

my reason for liking Onodera more is that while being a perfect girl for KanaHana to voiced, a generally a shy and silent characters, when it comes to Raku, she can be bold sometimes, really bold. and you can see her struggling against her own characteristic
my only regret is that she didn't find anyone else in the end
meanwhile Chitoge admit her feeling to Raku rather early, but really didn't do anything about it beside "enjoying" their fake relationship. nearing the end, true to her tsundere traits, to the point of abandoning her friends

in Koi to Uso, I really like both Misaki and Lilina, not like in Nisekoi where I can say I really don't like Chitoge
but I prefer Misaki because she has more dept in her character than Lilina, that I already stated earlier
Zurajannai said:
in Koi to Uso's world, the "arranged married" rules started in the MC's parent's generation
Misaki's parents are a rare "original" couple that didn't follow that rule and they ended up getting divorced when she was still small
so seeing all the "arranged married" couple (her friend's) went well, and her parents (an "original") didn't go quite well made this thought in her head quite deep:
"arranged married is better than the original"
but then again, she fell in love "naturally" with Nejima
this make a conflict in her mind

both of them pushing MC to the other side until the MC finally chose (at least so far I read) Misaki
will looking forward for Misaki to overcome her "trauma"

but yeah, regarding male MC, while both lacking "characteristic", I have to say I like Raku better since, again, while he's dense, at least he choose independently without outside "pushing"

Jul 24, 2017 3:10 PM

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true to being tsundere, Chitoge (Ririna) showing her hatred towards Raku (Nejima) before finally falling for him


Ugh, really?

Ririna is VERY different from Chitoge.

There's no hatred.
There's no mostly aggressive behavior.
She's so nice to the MC it's hard to even consider her a tsundere.

I can tell just from these 4 episode of the anime that she is much better that Gorilla.

For fucks sake, don't even compare...

That's why folk like Tragedy won't even touch the anime.

He wants a nice girl to win but he didn't even try to see if Ririna IS a nice girl (that she indeed is). Just because she is blond and the setting is the same as Nisekoi he assumed she is another Chitoge or typical mean tsundere.

Such level of generalization and supposition just rubs me the wrong way.
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why is nisekoi being compared to koi to uso they aren't even alike.

Raku literally has no defining qualities unlike Nejima who atleast makes more of an effort than Raku ever did,

Sanada is not even a tsundere she had a reason to dislike Nejima from the start but they easily fixed that problem and she's human and not some ape.

As for Misaki she has a similar personality to Kosaki but that's all. She's an easy character to get behind and her motives and reason for doing things are clear.

As for other things like being forced together yeah that's similar but so many other series have done it before.
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Nisaka >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Misaki/Ririna




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