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Mar 8, 2017 2:34 PM
#1
Synopsis Sentan Island is a small island surrounded by the Yuden Sea. It exists in a state of dreamlike tranquility, cut off from the war between the Northern Government and the Southern Continent Free Zone. Our hero, Akiyuki Takehara, lives on Sentain Island along with his mother Fusa. He is currently separated from his father, the town doctor Ryuzo, but the bond between father and son remains. One day, after taking Ryuzo the lunch that Fusa has made for him as usual, Akiyuki arrives at school, where he is caught up in an explosion along with his friends, Haru and Furuichi. The explosion produces a mysterious light, which enters Akiyuki's arm, causing him excruciating pain. He's given no time to understand it, however, as the white-haired girl who rode on the bus with him guides him to a power unlike anything he's ever known. Simulwatchers: Sapewloth, Zergneedsfood, Ckan Schedule: dunno, but it starts today 8th March 2017 |
SapewlothMar 11, 2017 1:36 AM
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Mar 8, 2017 2:54 PM
#2
Nice first episode. Throws us right away into the world of Xam'd without explaining much but it didn't feel too confusing and I assume we'll get to know more in later eps. I really like the very ghibli-like atmosphere, which is elevated by a pretty awe-inspiring soundtrack. Also spotted a building that looked a lot like Burj-Al-Arab. As to what actually happened this episode, I'm left wondering why the white-haired girl Nazuna had to blow herself up to release the power of Xam'd, or whatever it is that she was fed back in the beginning of the episode couldn't she just like, wait a few more hours and just shit it out or smth? jk jk. Are sacrifices of little albinos kids a necessary condition to the creation of those beings? What is their purpose? Definitely made me want to know more. EDIT: Forgot to add, that shit is SOOO well animated! Each character moves differently according to their respective personalities and there's even some sweet ass background animation here and there. Please keep that quality all the way through, show. I beg of you. EDIT2: Oh hey, title drop in the first ep! EDIT3: I didn't pay much attention to it but it seems that it's taboo to talk about the ongoing war and more specifically bring up the possibility that the Free Zone might become a target. What does "being purged" mean, tho? Just getting imprisoned and killed, or being completely erased from existence? Never skip the OP. I have a feeling we won't get an answer to the first question anytime soon. The OST and animation continue to impress. Still no idea what the Xam'd's purpose is, even though some hints have already been dropped, I believe. I also saw the same ring that Nakiami used in episode 1 on the Humanform weapon. Not sure what kind of technology this is yet, but its function seems to be something like containing/restricting, or maybe stabilising. Pretty impressive fight scene between Xamdified Akiyuki and the Humanform weapon. It appears the latter and the others were released by the Northern Government, which for some reason decided to attack the Free Zone. Weapon testing? The scene with Nakiami in the middle of the episode probably was my favorite: can't quite put it into words but she (Namiaki) left a big impression on me. What did she mean when she said she'd give the spirit Haru saved to her? Is Haru now linked to the Xam'd in some way or another? |
SapewlothMar 9, 2017 2:55 AM
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Mar 8, 2017 3:10 PM
#3
I'd join you, but I still haven't finished a bridge too far |
Mar 8, 2017 6:49 PM
#4
fst said: Should've been called a film too many if you ask me AYYYI'd join you, but I still haven't finished a bridge too far OT: BREEZY COME OUT AND PLAY |
Mar 9, 2017 3:14 AM
#5
As I suspected, there was another male Xam'd before Akiyuki who lived on the ship but lost it in the end. There's also the battle of Barador, which seems to be a major event in Xam'd's timeline along with the subway explosion that happened ten days before the events of episode 1. Both Papa Takehara and Kakisu took part in that battle and given Kakisu's expression when he read the report about the bus incident, he and Papa Take might be acquaintances. The old guy in a wheel chair seemed to be one step ahead and already know all those things, though. On a related note, Papa Take apparently knows about Humanform technology and so does Nakiami, since they both possess the same "nut" that turns into this weird cell once put into the green liquid and restrained by the "containment" ring. I liked pretty much every scene Benikawa was featured in: she's a really cool character and what I wouldn't hesitate to call a strong woman (she reminds me a bit of Touko Aozaki, in a way, especially with her line about the camouflage). Then again, all the women we've seen thus far seem to fall under this category, even if their respective strength manifests itself in different ways. Haru and Nakiami are both physically capable yet have capacity for empathy and compassion, Mama Takehara's mental fortitude in the face of her separation with her husband and the disappearance of her son etc. etc. That's really nice, and sadly really rare. Another battle with a Humanform weapon that ends with said weapon getting rekt. I don't know if I'm off the mark with this, but to me it looks like names carry or will carry a strong significance in this show. So, the group of albino kids are called Jibashiri it seems, and they can pull that yellow substance Nazuna ate back in episode 1, the "Hiruko", from the dead. Is there some kind of condition though? Do the deceased have to be babies or children? Or are the Hiruko more stable/of better quality/only available with certain types of people? More questions. What does the Xam'd seek though? What are the lost memories/perishing thoughts? Much like Akiyuki, I don't have a single fucking clue at the moment. Hoping more hints will be dropped in future eps. As I figured, Kakisu and Papa Takehara know each other, which will most likely play a big part in Papa Take coming back on his decision not to help out at the research lab. On the military side of things, it also looks like the Southern gov (I think the "ASP squad" belongs to them) have developped their own anti-Humanform weapon/suit that looks strangely like Akiyuki's Xam'd and is called "soulstealer", or rather an evolution of it if the Humanform user's remarks are anything to go by. There's also the drama surrounding Nakiami and her fellow people from Tessik, which I'm highly interested in. We also get to see a bit more of her and Benikawa's relationship, which is nice. I especially liked Benikawa's little exchange with Yunbo after she had an argument with Naki'. I'm actually surprised by just how much stuff can happen in one single episode of this show. EDIT: I forgot about lady Sannova and her exile ordonned by the North Gov as well as the mission she gave to the albino kids to return to Hiruko to the land of Ruikon. Aaargh, more questions! |
SapewlothMar 9, 2017 6:45 AM
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Mar 9, 2017 7:51 AM
#6
Zergneedsfood said: Sapewloth said: So, the group of albino kids are called Jibashiri it seems, and they can pull that yellow substance Nazuna ate back in episode 1, the "Hiruko", from the dead. Is there some kind of condition though? Do the deceased have to be babies or children? Or are the Hiruko more stable/of better quality/only available with certain types of people? More questions. What does the Xam'd seek though? What are the lost memories/perishing thoughts? Much like Akiyuki, I don't have a single fucking clue at the moment. Hoping more hints will be dropped in future eps. As I figured, Kakisu and Papa Takehara know each other, which will most likely play a big part in Papa Take coming back on his decision not to help out at the research lab. On the military side of things, it also looks like the Southern gov (I think the "ASP squad" belongs to them) have developped their own anti-Humanform weapon/suit that looks strangely like Akiyuki's Xam'd and is called "soulstealer", or rather an evolution of it if the Humanform user's remarks are anything to go by. There's also the drama surrounding Nakiami and her fellow people from Tessik, which I'm highly interested in. We also get to see a bit more of her and Benikawa's relationship, which is nice. I especially liked Benikawa's little exchange with Yunbo after she had an argument with Naki'. I'm actually surprised by just how much stuff can happen in one single episode of this show. EDIT: I forgot about lady Sannova and her exile ordonned by the North Gov as well as the mission she gave to the albino kids to return to Hiruko to the land of Ruikon. Aaargh, more questions! From the episode, seemed clear to me that Hiruko are taken from women who have died and have unborn children. It sort of feeds into what Nakiami was talking about in terms of celebrating the Hiruko's birth, a sort of "miraculous" birth so to speak since the baby was never meant to be born to begin with. I found this on the Naruto wiki (lol), but I was wondering if there was an actual translation of Hiruko that makes more sense. Hiruko (蛭子) can be translated to "leech child" though google translate tells me that it's actually pronounced "Ebisu" zzz But "leech child" again seems rather consistent in the lore. You're right, I didn't really make the connection right away with the mother/child speak Kakisu and Kanba + Naki's talk about celebration of Xam'd birth, for some reason. Google probably probably wrote it as "Ebisu" because 蛭子 can and does also refer to the god of fishing and commerce Ebisu (恵比寿), but you can also pronounce it Hiruko, yeah. And if you decompose the word, then 蛭 does mean leech and 子 does mean child. It seems however that in japanese summaries of the show, the word is written in katakana (ヒルコ) since no proper kanji is given for it. |
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Mar 10, 2017 4:33 AM
#7
mfw you guys are gonna be done before I even start |
Mar 10, 2017 4:41 AM
#8
Lemme just finish watching this YGO first k. I'll def start tomorrow. Definitely! |
Mar 10, 2017 4:57 AM
#9
I don't need your help! It'll be fine, you'll see |
Mar 10, 2017 11:03 PM
#10
Mecha intro eps are love. It's got all the standard stuff - mysterious powers/faction, imminent war, unique/peaceful locale, scientist father, elder mentor ace, carrier ship, everyday MC and so on. But the details really stood out here, and I'm digging the setting and designs. Immediately, the hints of Showa Japan lends a particular sense of time and grounding to the world's background. It's interesting that the airships are of a total different style, and again too, the bio-mystical Xam'd culture. Not much else to say atm, but the 'internal organs' look of the blown-out bus was a nice touch. The yellow fluids and bubbled up red seats made it quite graphic despite the lack of gore. Given the west's preoccupation with terrorism, it'll be interesting to see if/how the whole suicide bombing element will play out as part of the rest of the conflict. And like Znf said, the prologue was sexy stuff. So how likely is it that Kakisu was the previous Xam'd that Eureka Nakiami saved? Or maybe he's ripperino like the one our presumed antagonists were observing. Nakiami's distance from the crew and habit of muttering weirdness certainly makes the E7 comparison easy; and obligatory white base brats on board too. The weird creatures and funny-shaped gloop aside, it's honestly not that similar at all, so I can see why you might chafe when people call it a knock-off @znf. After the mention of Xamd? usually turning to stone, and the banzai/suicide troop attack, I guess we can look forward to some real unpleasantness before the end what with the human weapons and Imperial Japan themes going on. With all the civvies on the ground too, there might be some tragedy up ahead. Mummy & Daddy are probably the most interesting characters there. Not sure if I misheard, but when Nakiami was talking about transferring souls, my subs said that was the Xamd's purpose, but it sounded like she said 'sekinin', as in his 'responsibility'. Either way, I probably won't dwell too much on the meaningful stuff yet. Bones, pls spoonfeed. |
CkanMar 11, 2017 12:25 AM
Mar 11, 2017 3:46 AM
#11
Looks like I was way off with guessing Kakisu for an ex-xam'd. Still unsure why he was so pissed at the end of the last ep - maybe just his a past experience with humanoid weapons then. It's great how everyone's a distinctive character without resorting to animeisms. (aside from Akushiba and his friendly talky instant sleep self.) I suppose it's fair enough if everyone's wary of taking another Xam'd on board, but everyone was honestly quite an ass to MC-kun, who literally had no idea what was up. Pretty careless too, not telling him anything and letting him go nuts when it seems to have endangered them? But then they didn't really give af, aside from Nakiami, so maybe there wasn't any real immediate threat. Was the flying humantype an autonomous weapon? It certainly didn't seem to have much agency, so perhaps these types aren't actually humans or human-piloted. From what was said and how this flying one acted, they might be more like hunting dog. Interesting that Nakiami doesn't seem to know much/willing to share on the Xamd's origins and the albino peeps - so how does she know how to take care of them?. 'Thinking' helps the host live with the Hikumo huh. I wonder what that entails Why/how were the ship-mum's people were wiped out? Lots of questions to be answered. mfw trying to find Akushiba's name > He also loves Nakiami zzzzzzz thanks MAL |
CkanMar 11, 2017 3:59 AM
Mar 11, 2017 4:48 AM
#12
K, so there's the North with their human-type Hiruko-worshiping banzai sort. The South with 'soul-stealing' mechs, and there are apparently anti-government forces around too, who presumably use human-types like the North. Then there are the mysterious corpse-harvesting Jibashiri albinos that freak out Northern 'pilots', the vaguely genocided peeps, and now Nakiami's people without a homeland - many of which may have taken up the unscrupulous sort of life. Oh, and the free-region MCkun seems to be a particular people as well. So is there a religious element to this war? And what's grandma-sensei's relation with the albino sect? There was mention of a Dalai Lama sort who could actually remove Xam'ds (and are xamd the hiruko, particular hiruko, or the whole entity of a human hosts with their special hiruko?) Gonna have to say the mech/monster are weird, and nicely unique. The energy weapons and rainbow-ring flight systems call to mind Brain Powerd and King Gainer. I wonder if there's any relation there with the designers there. Also, calling back to something I forgot to mention from I think the previous ep, what was with MC's childhood friend seeing the 'hospitalised' albino girl? Was that a dream or reality? Iirc she also seemed to have been hit by the bombing in ep 1, so perhaps she was only partially affected? It would explain why she (alone?) seemed to hear MC when he went full Bounen. But then Nakiami heard him later as well... Brought this back up since she - like MCkun had her arm bandaged this ep, which could just as easily be a meaningless coincidence from some other minor wound. |
CkanMar 11, 2017 4:53 AM
Mar 11, 2017 5:17 AM
#14
Zergneedsfood said: mfw spoilered by MAL. :feelsbadman: Ckan said: It's great how everyone's a distinctive character without resorting to animeisms. (aside from Akushiba and his friendly talky instant sleep self.) Definitely one of the things I really enjoyed. There's a couple of obvious archetypes, but there's nothing particularly tropey about any of the characters that sticks out. The only exceptions are the kids/Akushiba who at times feel like they were stripped straight out of some personalities in E7, but I don't think they get enough screen time for me to be super bothered by it. Also I think the crew treated MC-kun this way because I think they've experienced enough shit to sort of know the standard protocol of what needs to be done with a Xam'd like him aboard. At the very least, this seems apparent from some of the characters' actions, like the side bets that Akushiba/Ahm make, Benikawa saying Nakiami's done this so many times. Also, in your previous post you mentioned: "Given the west's preoccupation with terrorism, it'll be interesting to see if/how the whole suicide bombing element will play out as part of the rest of the conflict." While I was watching this, I found that there were some, not a lot but some, rather interesting parallels about refugees, terrorism, and other such things that relate to events today. Think Xam'd is rather relevant today in terms of a broader concept of what it means to be lost from one's home and what "home" necessarily entails. My memory of E7 is vague, but the kids here so far have been pretty decent - I guess it helps that they're older, and act like it. (not to mention having a real mum, to be fair.) Yeah, the way the crew showed/is showing their ambivalence was pretty well done (as opposed to E7's everyone being obnoxious, iirc. (tbf, they were meant too be free-spirited young adults tho I guess.) Like the difference between the Captain being sort of above-it, the mechanic pushing life values, the mum's sympathy, and Akushiba possibly torn between practical friendliness and perhaps concern feigning apathy. But yeah, my initial reaction was that everyone was acting particularly roundabout if not outright destructive (perhaps because they're not really in the know) - like Nakiami not giving an actual explanation and the cap talking as if Akiyuki should even know he'd had his life saved and the sort of position he's in. Though, seeing more of her now, it definitely works out in-character if her uprighteousness and outright provoking him into going xamd (endangering Nakiami's efforts) is due to her being conflicted and lashing out/putting on a face whilst really worrying for Nakiami. |
Mar 11, 2017 5:19 AM
#15
cupc said: Cupc pls. This a safe zoneThis anime is overrated. Zergneedsfood said: K. Ckan said: Also, calling back to something I forgot to mention from I think the previous ep, what was with MC's childhood friend seeing the 'hospitalised' albino girl? Was that a dream or reality? Iirc she also seemed to have been hit by the bombing in ep 1, so perhaps she was only partially affected? It would explain why she (alone?) seemed to hear MC when he went full Bounen. But then Nakiami heard him later as well... As far as I know, it's real. I think she just stumbled upon her while she was walking around in the hospital. I think it was just really abrupt, and from the chatter, it seemed as if the authorities didn't know about her survival. |
Mar 11, 2017 7:09 AM
#16
Ckan said: Zergneedsfood said: K. Ckan said: Also, calling back to something I forgot to mention from I think the previous ep, what was with MC's childhood friend seeing the 'hospitalised' albino girl? Was that a dream or reality? Iirc she also seemed to have been hit by the bombing in ep 1, so perhaps she was only partially affected? It would explain why she (alone?) seemed to hear MC when he went full Bounen. But then Nakiami heard him later as well... As far as I know, it's real. I think she just stumbled upon her while she was walking around in the hospital. I think it was just really abrupt, and from the chatter, it seemed as if the authorities didn't know about her survival. I remember this was something that troubled me as well, since it hadn't been made exaclty clear whether she was alive or not (matter of fact, I actually assumed she was dead and the scene with Haru was a vision the latter had thanks to her connection with the Xam'd Nazuna created). |
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Mar 13, 2017 3:00 AM
#17
Sapewloth said: Just wanted to say this.Never skip the OP. Wait, what happened between Nakiami having dinner and her coming out as prisoner? Was it just a show for Cap's benefit, or an actual show of hostility? The little bridge between the ships was cute. Sometimes I feel the subs are obfuscating the nuance of what's going on. mfw there's a post-ED scene. Now I've gotta double check all other eps just to make sure I didn't miss anything. So Nakiami has a claim to leadership and there's possibly a prophetic scripture floating around. >raining >i'm joining the military >dead end RIP meganekun I can't quite figure why he's doing it (maybe there was a trigger earlier I missed), since joining the war seems like the opposite of his actions and words so far. but then, that sort of dissonance actually makes him seem like a proper person, and I guess it could be the mix of fear, macho insecurities, and going with the chauvinistic flow. His apparent feelings for Haru probably have something to do with it too. When he started talking about 'facing the opponent', was he reciting military mottos, or his own thinking? I'm leaning towards the former, or at least him appropriating it, if only because it seems like a weirdly philosophical thing to be saying, and the 'making it a part of yourself' would have a direct correlation with 'soul-stealing' weapons. If we wanted to go deeper, at the end when he and transformed Shidara are in the pit, his picking up the shovel shows his act as self-defence and he remains a bystander as Kakisu makes the killing blow - the military man carrying out his function. Whatever it means, Kakisu's black uniform was made a stark contrast to the yellow raincoats of the students. We could even take Furuichi's hood being off as foreshadowing his joining that dirty path. I think it's noteworthy that there was nothing 'cool' or exciting about Shidara's transformation and death - something that would usually be wrapped up in the form of an actual 'battle' in normal mecha anime. |
CkanMar 13, 2017 4:50 AM
Mar 13, 2017 7:11 AM
#18
Ckan said: Sapewloth said: Just wanted to say this.Never skip the OP. I can't quite figure why he's doing it (maybe there was a trigger earlier I missed), since joining the war seems like the opposite of his actions and words so far. but then, that sort of dissonance actually makes him seem like a proper person, and I guess it could be the mix of fear, macho insecurities, and going with the chauvinistic flow. His apparent feelings for Haru probably have something to do with it too. When he started talking about 'facing the opponent', was he reciting military mottos, or his own thinking? I'm leaning towards the former, or at least him appropriating it, if only because it seems like a weirdly philosophical thing to be saying, and the 'making it a part of yourself' would have a direct correlation with 'soul-stealing' weapons. Had the same idea when it comes to what influenced megane-kun's decision to join the military: Haru seems to be a pretty big motivator, and the phrase "what should I do to pass/get accepted" and "it's a dead end" seem to have some kind double meaning to them as they may both refer to the military and his chances with Haru. As for your second paragraph, I think he's simply reciting the mottos he's learned as part of his training in martial arts, which he's been shown to practice (with Haru) in episode 1. Actually, iirc "make their body part of your own" is something he actually said word for word in episode 1. Not much to say that ckan hasn't already touched upon, but I'll add that I'm really liking the way the different relationships in this show are handled, especially Nakiami and Benikawa's. |
SapewlothMar 13, 2017 7:19 AM
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Mar 13, 2017 9:05 AM
#19
Bunch of quick notes: - things are pretty explicit this ep. lots of explanations/development coming out - the spine of the trainee's mechs and the revived humanform are eerily similar, and we have a pretty lingering shot of them - the mother-baby humanform is pretty creepy with its whole pregnant two-bodies-in-one thing. creepy little baby hands - the pilot affinity 'testing arms' at the start were icky too - poor megane kun has no chance - mfw mal spoiler colours everything that Character X does ;_: - alone time with Nakiami whew -that heartless push though. in-flight dangling air climbs are so classic - pretty obvious now that red core = agro, blue = normal? - what's the green pit in these human-forms that nakiami keeps opening up? iirc the science/side had a shot of something similarish - what was with the stack of letters Haru sent? Were they all different or duplicates in the hopes of getting to Akiyuki -akushiba goggles on during srs talk - what is daddy researching atm? - Can megane and Haru carry the day? ASP aces incoming - the subs are noticeably missing whole lines now reeee Will reply tomorrow/later. Sry for lazy |
CkanMar 13, 2017 9:11 AM
Mar 13, 2017 9:42 AM
#20
Multiparters are just why ;_; mfw "if you ask me, humans are scarier than humantypes" and "it's started raining" WHEW that animation though and mvp fish xamd is aniki senpai wow |
CkanMar 13, 2017 10:03 AM
Mar 13, 2017 9:58 AM
#21
Zergneedsfood said: Ckan said: It's a Bones anime. You can't expect them not to frequently resort to their usual cliches.Multiparters are just why ;_; mfw "if you ask me, humans are scarier than humantypes" and "it's started raining" WHEW that animation though It's nice how the drama is ... not that DRAMA. It's also kind of weird how many 'typical' plot points they crammed in this ep especially, but it def keeps it from feeling like another mecha X Seems like the show's gotten pretty bingeable now, so RIP thoughtful posting |
CkanMar 13, 2017 10:05 AM
Mar 13, 2017 1:21 PM
#22
Poor Megane-kun finally realizing none of Haru's decisions/actions ever had a thing to do with him. That's a :FeelsBadMan: Wonder what Naki means when she's talking about "dismantling" the Humanform and how different it is from straight up killing it, though. Is there a way to "save" the subjects or at least allow them to live on under a different form? Some kind of purification? Looking forward to seeing more of that "dismantling" experiment. I've seen enough JoJo to know where this is going. Nice little detail is that Sukkaki went back to the classic hair bun after Kakisu told her he didn't like how her loose hair reminded him of his dead mama Ooh, Papa and Mama Takehara again! You're right about that Zerg, they have a lot of chemistry when they're on screen together and feel like an actual couple with perfectly relatable issues. |
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Mar 14, 2017 6:57 AM
#23
mfw a Tohru Furuya recital Xam'd 10/10 |
Mar 15, 2017 2:16 AM
#24
The hell was that Black Spirit thingy and what did it do to Naki? 😱 Did it have something to do with the fact that she tried to protect the mini-Humanforms last episode? Nice lecture, by the way. Oh man, I can't get enough of Benikawa and Naki's interactions. Them finally being able to put all the love they have for each other into words (each in their own way) right when they're about to separate was a very emotional moment. Really liked that scene and I'm gonna miss seing these two together. I also enjoyed Furuichi and Haru's dialogue at the end of the episode, even though I'd normally find Furuichi's type of character to be irritating at best. As cliché as his unrequited infatuation with Haru might appear at first, I think his character is well rounded enough for the drama and this particular scene to have impact. |
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Mar 15, 2017 3:43 AM
#25
Sapewloth said: Ckan said: I can't quite figure why he's doing it (maybe there was a trigger earlier I missed), since joining the war seems like the opposite of his actions and words so far. but then, that sort of dissonance actually makes him seem like a proper person, and I guess it could be the mix of fear, macho insecurities, and going with the chauvinistic flow. His apparent feelings for Haru probably have something to do with it too. When he started talking about 'facing the opponent', was he reciting military mottos, or his own thinking? I'm leaning towards the former, or at least him appropriating it, if only because it seems like a weirdly philosophical thing to be saying, and the 'making it a part of yourself' would have a direct correlation with 'soul-stealing' weapons. Had the same idea when it comes to what influenced megane-kun's decision to join the military: Haru seems to be a pretty big motivator, and the phrase "what should I do to pass/get accepted" and "it's a dead end" seem to have some kind double meaning to them as they may both refer to the military and his chances with Haru. As for your second paragraph, I think he's simply reciting the mottos he's learned as part of his training in martial arts, which he's been shown to practice (with Haru) in episode 1. Actually, iirc "make their body part of your own" is something he actually said word for word in episode 1. I totally forgot about the kungpow in ep 1 until you guys mentioned it. That context/setting definitely put things into perspective Zergneedsfood said: I think it fits for Furuichi. I think there are snippets of nationalist sentiments from Furuichi (I don't want to get purged, we're at war again), jealousy over Akiyuki who he thinks is a casualty of the war, and I think his whole martial arts speech at the beginning which talks about how there's no such thing as winning or losing is done hesitantly enough that I think it's justified to say that there's a lot of self-doubts and insecurities in Furuichi that I think he believes he can solve by joining the military. I certainly don't think there's anything from Furuichi's personality that would've suggested he's a pacifist. I think at his core, Furuichi is just really weak, he knows it, and I think he'd jump at any attempt to come off as stronger. His feelings for Haru are also a major contributing factor. I didn't actually catch any particularly nationalistic vibes off him. While not pacifist, I think maybe I felt more on the lines of 'weak' as you mentioned - but perhaps particularly in the cowardly sense, which is why I was surprised (at first) with his decision. Iirc, for your examples - 'at war again' seems like a prety neutral sort of remark (though I can't recall the context) - I might've taken it as a slightly disapproving/fearful too. In particular, the 'purge' thing came off as sort a hyper-conscious outburst which made me think him adverse to national service - but in hindsight that sort of fear and his personality definitely make him see susceptible to being pressured into 'patriotic service.' The other big thing was after the bus explosion - iirc he was particularly keen to run (justified and sensible, tbf), and even abandoned - was it Haru or the trooper? But yeah, that minor side of his motivation aside, his insecurities and motivations are quite clear (now). Oh, and moreso than other charcters so far, he also has that whole 'womenz' thing going on. |
Mar 15, 2017 3:45 AM
#26
mfw 11 eps worth of commentary to make. that's a feelsbadman |
Mar 15, 2017 3:58 AM
#27
Sapewloth said: The hell was that Black Spirit thingy and what did it do to Naki? 😱 Did it have something to do with the fact that she tried to protect the mini-Humanforms last episode? Nice lecture, by the way. Def a big question mark here. At first I thought she might've been possessed, but now it's just like, what was that - just a hazing? Or was it meant to be a whole eye of Sauron moment I'm probably drawing this speculation based on revelations in much later eps: but you could be right on how Nakiami's insistence on 'saving' through dismemberment is perhaps in direct opposition to the hinted/prophesised 'happening' - and that the black goo is perhaps the opposite power in the big spiritual endgame Sapewloth said: I also enjoyed Furuichi and Haru's dialogue at the end of the episode, even though I'd normally find Furuichi's type of character to be irritating at best. As cliché as his unrequited infatuation with Haru might appear at first, I think his character is well rounded enough for the drama and this particular scene to have impact. Yeah, Xam'd treads on some pretty familiar ground in that way, but then it carries it out in a surprising and weirdly undramatised underemphasised?- almost understated in comparison. It was definitely a standout scene. |
CkanMar 15, 2017 4:01 AM
Mar 15, 2017 12:08 PM
#28
That mother's scene though ;_; |
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Mar 15, 2017 12:52 PM
#29
Not gonna lie, that scene was incredible. Oh man, RIP in pepperoni Furuichi Also, looks like Akiyuki truly became *puts on shades* the Xam'd of the Lost Memory. Alright, I'll see myself out EDIT: Furuichi's hatred-ified Xam'd looked just like the masks Humanform Users wear, with the bigass nose and stuff |
SapewlothMar 15, 2017 12:58 PM
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Mar 15, 2017 7:09 PM
#30
Sapewloth said: Not gonna lie, that scene was incredible. Oh man, RIP in pepperoni Furuichi Also, looks like Akiyuki truly became *puts on shades* the Xam'd of the Lost Memory. Alright, I'll see myself out EDIT: Furuichi's hatred-ified Xam'd looked just like the masks Humanform Users wear, with the bigass nose and stuff The crazy transformation stages he went through were amazing. Was not expecting him to go out that way either. Brutal |
Mar 15, 2017 7:33 PM
#31
Ckan said: Sapewloth said: Not gonna lie, that scene was incredible. Oh man, RIP in pepperoni Furuichi Also, looks like Akiyuki truly became *puts on shades* the Xam'd of the Lost Memory. Alright, I'll see myself out EDIT: Furuichi's hatred-ified Xam'd looked just like the masks Humanform Users wear, with the bigass nose and stuff The crazy transformation stages he went through were amazing. Was not expecting him to go out that way either. Brutal Ikr? I actually thought the whole conflict would be resolved in a much more peaceful manner but instead the show went the exact opposite direction and literally gave Furuichi's growing hatred and frustration a physical form. His death was also really shocking. |
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Mar 22, 2017 1:19 AM
#32
Well shit, almost missed that after credits scene. Can't believe so many people still seemed to think eyeball-san was Furuichi, though. Flying Akiyuki was a beautiful scene. |
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Mar 22, 2017 6:38 AM
#33
I don't really know what to say, other than it was a pretty great way to end the show. I really liked that the hill on top of which Akiyuki found himself in the dream where he sees Nakiami was the same spot where the Zanbani crew left him, and that thanks to the thoughts Naki sent over to him, he was able to wake up (nine years later but still). Lots of warmth and shiawase I got from this ending. The reveals from episode 25 really helped connect everything together and make me realize that we were following the stories of lost children from the beginning. It was also really great to see that in the end all those children found their way in one way or another. I do think the reveals in question could've come sooner so that the viewers feel a little less like they don't know where they're going, especially during the second half of the show, but in retrospect I don't mind too much because what came before that was an enjoyable ride for the most part. I think there are still some questions up in the air about the world of Xam'd and the show as a whole, which does make me want to rewatch the show sometime down the line, but overall I'd say it was totally #worth. It's rare to see an anime that tackles the themes of motherhood/womanhood, birth/life and all that jazz in such an original and satisfying way, so thank you Xam'd for giving me this. I'm glad I watched it. |
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Mar 22, 2017 6:57 AM
#34
mfw sharkspeed OT: Someone saying 'egyptian stride' triggered me into rewatching the opening of the first ep . still greato |
CkanMar 22, 2017 7:01 AM
Mar 22, 2017 6:59 AM
#35
Zergneedsfood said: Sapewloth said: I don't really know what to say, other than it was a pretty great way to end the show. I really liked that the hill on top of which Akiyuki found himself in the dream where he sees Nakiami was the same spot where the Zanbani crew left him, and that thanks to the thoughts Naki sent over to him, he was able to wake up (nine years later but still). Lots of warmth and shiawase I got from this ending. The reveals from episode 25 really helped connect everything together and make me realize that we were following the stories of lost children from the beginning. It was also really great to see that in the end all those children found their way in one way or another. I do think the reveals in question could've come sooner so that the viewers feel a little less like they don't know where they're going, especially during the second half of the show, but in retrospect I don't mind too much because what came before that was an enjoyable ride for the most part. I think there are still some questions up in the air about the world of Xam'd and the show as a whole, which does make me want to rewatch the show sometime down the line, but overall I'd say it was totally #worth. It's rare to see an anime that tackles the themes of motherhood/womanhood, birth/life and all that jazz in such an original and satisfying way, so thank you Xam'd for giving me this. I'm glad I watched it. NAKIAMI ;_____________; I think the reason why I was mentioning that the scene from Episode 14 or whatever was important is because the scene that Nakiami and Akiyuki "meet" after Akiyuki has given up his name is around the same time where Akiyuki is outside after being punished by his mom. I think there's a sort of thematic parallel there that foreshadows him "coming home" and returning from the stone. I think the show is trying to say something about the importance of these sorts of memories, how one's name is not necessarily continuous with one's identity but rather that the sum of their memories makes up the person....or something. Anyway, I legit can't get over Nakiami being trapped in the Quickening Chamber for a thousand years. That's fucking brutal ;____; It's okay Zerg, at least we know she'll be back... ;___; |
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Mar 22, 2017 7:07 AM
#36
Zergneedsfood said: Sapewloth said: Zergneedsfood said: Sapewloth said: I don't really know what to say, other than it was a pretty great way to end the show. I really liked that the hill on top of which Akiyuki found himself in the dream where he sees Nakiami was the same spot where the Zanbani crew left him, and that thanks to the thoughts Naki sent over to him, he was able to wake up (nine years later but still). Lots of warmth and shiawase I got from this ending. The reveals from episode 25 really helped connect everything together and make me realize that we were following the stories of lost children from the beginning. It was also really great to see that in the end all those children found their way in one way or another. I do think the reveals in question could've come sooner so that the viewers feel a little less like they don't know where they're going, especially during the second half of the show, but in retrospect I don't mind too much because what came before that was an enjoyable ride for the most part. I think there are still some questions up in the air about the world of Xam'd and the show as a whole, which does make me want to rewatch the show sometime down the line, but overall I'd say it was totally #worth. It's rare to see an anime that tackles the themes of motherhood/womanhood, birth/life and all that jazz in such an original and satisfying way, so thank you Xam'd for giving me this. I'm glad I watched it. NAKIAMI ;_____________; I think the reason why I was mentioning that the scene from Episode 14 or whatever was important is because the scene that Nakiami and Akiyuki "meet" after Akiyuki has given up his name is around the same time where Akiyuki is outside after being punished by his mom. I think there's a sort of thematic parallel there that foreshadows him "coming home" and returning from the stone. I think the show is trying to say something about the importance of these sorts of memories, how one's name is not necessarily continuous with one's identity but rather that the sum of their memories makes up the person....or something. Anyway, I legit can't get over Nakiami being trapped in the Quickening Chamber for a thousand years. That's fucking brutal ;____; It's okay Zerg, at least we know she'll be back... ;___; No Benikawa/Nakiami reunion. Well, given that she survived trying to kill herself in the Emperor's Chamber....maybe she'll live to a thousand years? :feelsbadman: Speaking of which, Benikawa bursting into tears was so hard to watch T-T; Her relationship with Nakiami was definitely one of my favorite parts of the show (if not my favorite). Ckan said: silver-tan's husbando taught me well.mfw sharkspeed |
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