What do you think about the game set-up?
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aa-dono said: I had been doing a great job of avoiding the early night kill. So sad that logic died first :'( I am not as comfortable with Sollux after D2 as I was on D1. I still like his townie D1 but damn he didn't follow it up. Red_Salmon is hard for me to read going to have to ISO him and see what I come up with. RE1031 felt town or at least neutral coming out of D1 not sure what the focus from Grapefruit and Mishu was today. Will be interesting to see what Grapefruit flips. I had town vibes early but my bias was showing. |
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◩ Vote Count 2.5 (Final) ◩ [ 5 ] Grapefruit21 - RE1031, _Claire_, CorruptedPurity, TheConquerer, Zymf [ 4 ] CorruptedPurity - Shinichi-Kun, Grapefruit21, Oyasumi_RosieMishukax [ 1 ] RE1031 - Red_Salmon [ 1 ] Mishukax - Phraze Not Voting Sollux16 Mod Note(s) Tell me if this VC is wrong in less than 5 mins :D ◩ Vote Track 2.5 ◩ Shinichi-Kun: Zymf -> CorruptedPurity Zymf: _Claire_ -> Unvote -> Grapefruit21 Red_Salmon: RE1031 Grapefruit21: Shinichi-Kun -> Unvote -> RE1031 -> CorruptedPurity Phraze: Mishukax Oyasumi_Rosie: CorruptedPurity Sollux16: _Claire_: Grapefruit21 RE1031: Shinichi-Kun -> Grapefruit21 TheConquerer: _Claire_ -> Unvote -> Red_Salmon -> Grapefruit21 CorruptedPurity: Grapefruit21 Mishukax: Phraze -> RE1031 -> CorruptedPurity If Grapefruit flips town: Based on this VC I would say that scum are on both trains Scum is likely between Solluz/Phraze/Red_Salmon, Shinichi-Kun/Oyasumi_Rosie/Mishukax, and RE1031/_Claire_/CorruptedPurity/TheConquerer/Zymf isnce I am used to scum spreading out across the Vote Count. So yeah he flipped town glad I was right again...lol. ◩ Vote Count 1.9 [ Final ] ◩ [ 4 ] Sleipnirr - Mishukax, logic340, Sollux16, Shinichi-Kun [ 3 ] TheConquerer - Phraze, Grapefruit21, _Claire_ [ 2 ] Red_Salmon - TheConquerer, CorruptedPurity [ 1 ] Oyasumi_Rosie - Zymf [ 1 ] Phraze - RE1031 [ 1 ] Grapefruit21 - Sleipnirr Not Voting Oyasumi_Rosie Red_Salmon |
logic340Feb 25, 2017 1:55 PM
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logic340 said: Hohoho flip was posted :>If Grapefruit flips town: Based on this VC I would say that scum are on both trains Scum is likely between Solluz/Phraze/Red_Salmon, Shinichi-Kun/Oyasumi_Rosie/Mishukax, and RE1031/_Claire_/CorruptedPurity/TheConquerer/Zymf isnce I am used to scum spreading out across the Vote Count. |
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| RE and Purity are where I'll be looking first. What guess, I feel like Sollux is town but bed to take a closer look work his limited activity D2. Rosie very confusion this game more so then previous games. Sleipnirr/Grapefruit/Logic would have been a great town block. I hope Mishu/Claire/Shinichi are town if they are scum together this town is screwed. |
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| I dont know about claire but at this point I am almost sure shinichi is the scum. He doesnt play like I remember him to be and I dont mean it in meta as all of us can easily manipulate it, I am talking about his mentaility behind his posts. So he is either a third party or scum or in the worst case scenario a town who is not intrested in the game but I doubt this possibility as his last post was if grape turns out to be town we would have 5 suspects. |
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Sleipnirr said: I've played one town game with him and he seemed more focused there but I'm admittedly bad at reading him in particular. Time to look at that iso again. I've been curious about my death since he told me he'd be scared of me if he was scum.I dont know about claire but at this point I am almost sure shinichi is the scum. He doesnt play like I remember him to be and I dont mean it in meta as all of us can easily manipulate it, I am talking about his mentaility behind his posts. So he is either a third party or scum or in the worst case scenario a town who is not intrested in the game but I doubt this possibility as his last post was if grape turns out to be town we would have 5 suspects. |
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| Holy shnikes I had zero grasp on that game.... And I had a hard time mentally investing in it since I thought I'd dropped from it. |
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DenjaX said: It seems pretty cool, just hard to use the first time you come across it. I feel like I should have tried to use it more before dying, to kind of understand it more. How did you decided if a message got through or not?Oyasumi_Rosie said: Like the roles and/or game mechanics xDDWhat do you mean by game set up? |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: TBH, your ability was kinda OP so the hosts were debating whether to give you shots or unlimited shots. I believe we got the right decision xDDIt seems pretty cool, just hard to use the first time you come across it. I feel like I should have tried to use it more before dying, to kind of understand it more. How did you decided if a message got through or not? Also the message is randomized. Only 2 message can get through every night. Note that if the player is twinless, they can no longer use the service or even got bad feeling. xDD |
DenjaX said: ]TBH, your ability was kinda OP so the hosts were debating whether to give you shots or unlimited shots. I believe we got the right decision xDD Also the message is randomized. Only 2 message can get through every night. Note that if the player is twinless, they can no longer use the service or even got bad feeling. xDD Yeah that makes total sense, I am just super careful with my shots. I really should have used it the night before. Oh well. hmm interestings, so my message had a 1/4th chance of getting through. Shoot I should have said something more useful lol |
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| Come Sollux.... give them a good 1-2 with your reads.... I got faith in you >.< |
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| @Grapefruit21 Now that that other game is over and we are both dead.... I hope you never trust your reads of me ever again. |
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| wait are they really thinking that some people visited someone that makes them cleared. Mafia also can make a compulsory visit. It doesnt prove anything and not all the mafia are doing the killing so the others might have visited the townies while the goon killed the target and if they get a town read for that Imma go insane. |
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logic340 said: Are you going to become our Urameshi or are Kuwabara?Time to start my spirit detecting |
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| @Oyasumi_Rosie I had faith in your townieness....lol. I'll be Kuwabara his character development was amazing imo!! |
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| @logic340 As you should, I am a super town player. lol perfect, and you barely have to die to be like him. //Edit: I guess there is no real point in asking, but did you get your twins message Logic? |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Nope I had a feeling I would be NK I didn't send any actions.@logic340 As you should, I am a super town player. lol perfect, and you barely have to die to be like him. //Edit: I guess there is no real point in asking, but did you get your twins message Logic? |
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| I don't like how Zymf is trying to get people to claim early in the game. It makes the game way to easy for scum that way. Late D2 (if you are being lynched) or D3 are really good times because their are fewer options left. In the last couple of games, people who have really rubbed me the wrong way seem to be scum, so I am keeping my eyes on him. I don't trust him >.> //Edit: Ugh what a jerk! The Sliep lynch happened so quick no one could stop it, and Grape wasn't on his computer! There are plenty of reasons not to lynch someone who doesn't claim, its everyone else fault for not moving!! |
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logic340 said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: Nope I had a feeling I would be NK I didn't send any actions.@logic340 As you should, I am a super town player. lol perfect, and you barely have to die to be like him. //Edit: I guess there is no real point in asking, but did you get your twins message Logic? And I guess the mods wouldn't have send you any messages since they knew you were going to die @DenjaX @aa-dono Can you confirm this? |
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| Oh so that is how that would work.... If you got visited by your twin and didn't die then you know they aren't scum. Interesting interesting.... (unless... am misunderstanding something...) |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Not necessarily. I gave you the info you would have received if you lived xDDAnd I guess the mods wouldn't have send you any messages since they knew you were going to die Can you confirm this? logic had no actions received. |
| I'm just so not plugged into this game. I actually feel guilty at how little attention I paid to it. If I read it from where I died I'll let you know my thoughts... I am the Worst town :( |
Grapefruit21 said: It's all good Grapefruit you did what you could man. It sucks that the 4 of us are gone I don't know if this town can get it together but I'm lost at the moment. These Vote Counts suck and I am not sure they provide me with much clarity.I'm just so not plugged into this game. I actually feel guilty at how little attention I paid to it. If I read it from where I died I'll let you know my thoughts... I am the Worst town :( |
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| Shinichi posting a lot right now but he never fleshes out his thoughts completely. I think he is scum which would mean he's probably pushing a mislynch on Zymf and point #4 he brought up was actually the truth at the time. I know he will vote his scum buddy with RVS so him and TheConquerer being a team is quite possible and they are the only two who have vote this phase. I wonder if he is the type of scum to get stronger later? Never seen him as town but this might just be it. Phraze is l feeling like Disgaea Phraze to me which was town Phraze. She doesn't seem to have a grasp of what is going on and doesn't care even when confronted with it. It's possible her and TheConquerer are Phraze/Sithis 2.0 but I am struggling to see that right now. RE and Red_Salmon have become very active in the early parts of this phase. I want to see if this continues or if they were both just trying to hit the post count minimum. Red_Salmon's vote on me without anyone else really questioning him about it bothers me. He's either town and scum left it alone or town dropped the ball on some really scummy play. At this point I am going to say probable the former but I wouldn't be surprise if I am wrong here and he is scum. Clarie....idk....idk....idk...her interactions with Rosie look bad and her interactions with Shinichi aren't enough for me to say unaligned pair. Mishukax really wouldn't be surprised if he is scum this game. If he is the thing with RE was similar to what he did with me and he probably felt I would defend him due to that. His participation has seemed to fall of and I have noticed that happens with scum. |
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| well if kaito is scum its not like there is anyone left to catch him. The new guys can easily be pocketed which would explain why they are still alive and zymf is the target of today's lynch. So yeah if Shinichi is scum you can count this as a 100% town lost. |
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| Honestly right now Shinichi-niisan seems very town to me. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Honestly right now Shinichi-niisan seems very town to me. isnt it because he is only one left alive to talk? |
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Sleipnirr said: thoughts on Red_Salmon and RE?-Oyasumi_Rosie said: Honestly right now Shinichi-niisan seems very town to me. isnt it because he is only one left alive to talk? Red's D1 was a complete waste. The way they talked about scum bout voting the towniest town seems like reverse psychology at this point. I see them sharing by with minimal pressure and now that the 4-most active town are gone he's all of a sudden become more active? @Oyasumi_Rosie what makes Shinichi look town to you? |
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| @Grapefruit21 you just played a game with Claire as scum does this game feel the same? |
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logic340 said: I was also in that game but I have a terrible off feeling about Claire. She used some shady ass logic in both games so they could both be scum, but I have more of a town feel from her here (Defending Sliep despite not knowing his role)@Grapefruit21 you just played a game with Claire as scum does this game feel the same? |
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I feel like how desperate to get answer seems very town to me. But he could have just been pocket me day 1 and 2 and is now riding off being the last member of that first team. If you remember that werewolf game I was talking about where town lost with only one werewolf the entire game, that is what happened. Honestly though I haven't read the game in like... in a while though.... Have to give a good ride to what has been happening while I was gone. |
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◩ Vote Count 1.9 [ Final ] ◩ [ 4 ] Sleipnirr - Mishukax, logic340, Sollux16, Shinichi-Kun [ 3 ] TheConquerer - Phraze, Grapefruit21, _Claire_ [ 2 ] Red_Salmon - TheConquerer, CorruptedPurity [ 1 ] Oyasumi_Rosie - Zymf [ 1 ] Phraze - RE1031 [ 1 ] Grapefruit21 - Sleipnirr Not Voting Oyasumi_Rosie Red_Salmon ◩ Vote Count 2.5 (Final) ◩ [ 5 ] Grapefruit21 - RE1031, _Claire_, CorruptedPurity, TheConquerer, Zymf [ 4 ] CorruptedPurity - Shinichi-Kun, Grapefruit21, Oyasumi_RosieMishukax [ 1 ] RE1031 - Red_Salmon [ 1 ] Mishukax - Phraze Not Voting Sollux16 ◩ Vote Count 3.5(FINAL) ◩ [ 4 ] _Claire_ – Mishukax, RE1031, Shinichi-Kun, Zymf [ 2 ] Sollux16 - TheConquerer, CorruptedPurity [ 1 ] CorruptedPurity - Phraze [ 1 ] Zymf - Sollux16 [ 1 ] TheConquerer – _Claire_ Not Voting Red_Salmon Really not much I can tell from looking at these. Trying to find aligned pairs never is. So many votes off in nowhere land is making this hard to decipher. Another mislynch and I feel like this town will be swept. Shinichi and Red_Salmon are my two leading suspects. I did reads on both of them before D1 ended. Red_Salmon hasn't voted in two of the phases this is a really bad sign imo. |
logic340Feb 28, 2017 9:37 AM
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| I am having such a hard time reading Shinichi right now. I've never seen this level of activity from him before and I don't know if it is due to him being town and wanting to actually catch scum or if he is scum who sees the finish line in sight. |
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| @Oyasumi_Rosie good call on Clair there. Not sure if this clears Shinichi but it's definitely a nod in his favor for now. Time to update the Vote Counts and see what I can find. |
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| Now that Claire has flipped scum time for me to try my hand at Interaction Analysis. |
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logic340 said: Well I noticed in our last game when she was scum she tunneled me there too and no one could talk her out of it. I was lucky that I earned people's trust in this game though =w=@Oyasumi_Rosie good call on Clair there. Not sure if this clears Shinichi but it's definitely a nod in his favor for now. Time to update the Vote Counts and see what I can find. |
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| I mean I wouldn't trust Shinichi 100 percent yet. But he isn't worth trying to lynch yet. If he is scum kill off all his buddies first. However he might be the next one to join our growing mason chat >.> |
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| Shout out to Gruffin and Crossbell who I stole this from. _Claire_ Interaction Analysis Key: | = Strong interaction (Vote/Pressure/Gametalk) - = Weak interaction (Fluff/Passive Mention) All Players Shinichi-Kun: |--||||||||||||||||||||||| Zymf: ||| logic340: |-||||-||| Sleipnirr: |||||||| Red_Salmon: |||||||| Grapefruit21: || Phraze: Oyasumi_Rosie: -|||||||-| Sollux16: RE1031: ||| TheConquerer: ||| CorruptedPurity: -|| Mishukax: ||| Thoughts as I read some of the posts: -She was on Rosie hard early. To the point where she even told Red_Salmon that Rosie doesn't move her vote so she's not in her usual meta. Much doubt casting here suggests to me that she's trying to push a mislynch on Rosie. Not sure what it says bout her and Red_Salmon? She even wanted a statement on Rosie which actually ran counter to my Rosie meta (should have picked up on that like I did with Soren and Ruu). -Nice little White Knighting of Grapefruit there on his early train D1 the votes him off D2...this should have been very telling. Says if Scum was on the Grapefruit train she would be suspicious of CorruptedPurity and Sollux -Strong White Knighting of Sleipnirr End of Day 1 -I can't say she didn't want us to go after and inactive player but she did warn me against it. My choices were Phraze and TheConquere if we went there. She isn't seeing town Phraze but thinks it may be something personal but wouldn't mind voting Sollux. IDK if this is because she was trying to push another mislynch or because he's her partner and she knew most of us wouldn't go there at that time? Seems pretty protective of Phraze going as far as to say she absent in another game too. -Vote on TheConquerer seems a bit out of nowhere. Me and Shinichi told her that lynch was going nowhere and she almost caused a tie with that vote. A few posts later she tells Sleipnirr she thinks TheConq is scum (a few posts early her had made mo impression on her brain). IDK what to make of this maybe Conquerer is town? -Expected me or Grape to be NK (inside info much). Votes Grape off D2?? -Clair Thinks their is scum in the Sleipnirr train I would bet their isn't -Town lean on Shinichi based on her meta...then votes Grapefruit. Shinichi/Claire scum team?? -Red_Salmon got Claire caught up since she visited Shinichi N2. Safe to say that Red_Salmon I s town (still might be my twin too!) -All of a sudden D3 she begins talking to RE1031? -Doesn't like all the PR claims, I guess she wouldn't since they got her caught up. I would guess it's safe to say that Red_Salmon and CorruptedPurity are probably town given how Claire feels about things -Claire isn't on TheConquerer's scum list, then she instantly votes TheConq for not liking his vote. Second time she is ending a phase with a vote on TheConquerer Notes: -D1 No interactions with Zymf, Phraze, RE1031, or Sollux. One fluff interaction with CorruptedPurity. -D2 Still no interactions with Phraze, Re1031, or Sollux. -D3 Still no interactions with Phraze or Sollux, Her interactions with RE1031 spiked going from none to many, I wonder if this in indicative of alignment -She has a ton of interactions with Shinichi. I worry about them being scum together but I think her interactions with him point to him being town. -She no interactions with Sollux (who she was cool with lynching D1) and Phraze (who she would not lynch D1). Conclusions: IDK what my conclusions are. I think Sollux is town and Phraze is scum. TheConquerer looks town since she voted him twice but IDK for certain Shinichi these interactions confuse me the most. They are either a great team together or Shinichi is town leaning towards the latter. |
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| Confirmed Town: logic340 Sleipnirr Oyasumi_Rosie Grapefruit21 Town Lean: Red_Salmon Shinichi-kun CorruptedPurity Neutral: RE1031 Sollux16 Mishkax Zymf TheConquerer Scum Lean: Phraze Confirmed Mafia: _Claire_ |
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| Wait we havne't gotten new members in to the dead chat yet? TBH I haven't been keeping up because of school but still.... |
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| Yeah.. Zymf is looking really bad in my eyes.... I would go after him next, if I was town //edit whoops never mind, just plays anti town it seems lol |
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| Man people are so bad at the no night talking thing lol |
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| With Phraze flipping town I guess that means Claire was doing a whole lot of White Knighting of Town this game. |
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