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Nov 22, 2016 1:33 AM

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This episode was really intense, but if rinne lose this match, does that mean we won't see her fight fuuka?
ReD_GaaraNov 22, 2016 3:00 AM
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Nov 22, 2016 2:51 AM
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ReDGaara said:
This episode was really intense, but if rinne lose this match, does that mean we won't see her fight fuuka?


They can always fight outside the tournament.
Nov 22, 2016 3:04 AM

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She has already promised to fight Fuuka if she lose.
Nov 22, 2016 5:08 AM

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TYxTxYT said:
Let's be honest, censoring Nanoha and Fate is just unnecessary and a big "fuck you" from Tsuzuki.
God I hate this guy.


sarroush said:

ENTIRELY unnecessary to censor those faces. Fate & Nanoha literally made your series what it is Tsuzuki. .


The staff listing actually doesn't list him as working on this project? Is it actually confirmed he is?

I thought maybe that was one reason why they left, "Nanoha." Out the title and didn't continue it as Vivio's series, because the original creator of Nanoha isn't working on the project.
Nov 22, 2016 6:36 AM

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neonie said:
TYxTxYT said:
Let's be honest, censoring Nanoha and Fate is just unnecessary and a big "fuck you" from Tsuzuki.
God I hate this guy.


sarroush said:

ENTIRELY unnecessary to censor those faces. Fate & Nanoha literally made your series what it is Tsuzuki. .


The staff listing actually doesn't list him as working on this project? Is it actually confirmed he is?

I thought maybe that was one reason why they left, "Nanoha." Out the title and didn't continue it as Vivio's series, because the original creator of Nanoha isn't working on the project.


http://vivid-strike.com/staff/
> 原作・脚本 都築真紀
Creator and script, Tsuzuki Masaki
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Nov 22, 2016 6:45 AM

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TYxTxYT said:
neonie said:




The staff listing actually doesn't list him as working on this project? Is it actually confirmed he is?

I thought maybe that was one reason why they left, "Nanoha." Out the title and didn't continue it as Vivio's series, because the original creator of Nanoha isn't working on the project.


http://vivid-strike.com/staff/
> 原作・脚本 都築真紀
Creator and script, Tsuzuki Masaki


Thanks. And Damn. That really is... Odd, then. As I do feel like this season of... The continuation of what is essentially the Nanoha universe, does seem like it's trying to distance it self from Nanoha somewhat. (Although, some of the promotional art actually has Nanoha and Fate in it, which is also strange.)

And they haven't appeared in this season at all... Which is kind of a bummer. Because of my favorite parts of Nanoha is... Uh... Nanoha. (And the sweet, sweet tones of Tamura, Yukari.)
Nov 22, 2016 7:03 AM

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neonie said:
TYxTxYT said:


http://vivid-strike.com/staff/
> 原作・脚本 都築真紀
Creator and script, Tsuzuki Masaki


Thanks. And Damn. That really is... Odd, then. As I do feel like this season of... The continuation of what is essentially the Nanoha universe, does seem like it's trying to distance it self from Nanoha somewhat. (Although, some of the promotional art actually has Nanoha and Fate in it, which is also strange.)

And they haven't appeared in this season at all... Which is kind of a bummer. Because of my favorite parts of Nanoha is... Uh... Nanoha. (And the sweet, sweet tones of Tamura, Yukari.)


After that rage post I cooled my head(...) and thought over it, I think it kinda make sense because this was told in Rinne's monologue, and the information gathering of Jill is not the brightest to be honest, so Rinne probably never saw a photo of Nanoha/Fate, or know them being both female, or know the age difference between them and Vivio isn't that much.

Still a dick move though, Tsuzuki.

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My favorite character is Nanoha as well, are we gonna battle to death, and the winner can challenge Fate?
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Nov 22, 2016 10:02 AM

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Very good episode. :)
The fight was so intense that it gave me chills.
I really look forward to seeing the fight between Rinne vs Fuuka, if organized one day.
Nov 22, 2016 12:19 PM

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I honestly wasn't that bothered by the vague image of Nanoha and Fate. They are basically the parents of the girl...who isn't the main character or antagonist. Not the first time in fiction that parents of that kind of character are kind of vague. Plus we already knew that there was no chance that they'd appear in this show anyways. And if you are trying to move with a new main cast then keeping former main characters out of the picture makes that easier. I'd like to see Nanoha again in one of these series. But I simply don't expect it with the direction they are trying to go.

Let's face it. If that guy really wanted to give the fans a "screw you" moment...he'd have killed Nanoha offscreen. In the time between Vivid and Vivid Strike, he'd have Nanoha fall down some stairs. So only vaguely showing her in a mental image has of Vivio's life is hardly a crisis.

Frankly I think the bigger thing is how darn good the fight was. This was a great character moment for Vivio and in some ways made me like her more than I even did during her series. Get a good picture of how fragile her past in StrikerS has left her and how she does have natural envy to the gifts others have. But she never lets that consume her and pushes herself incredibly hard in terms of improving the strengths she still has.

That was a great fight for Vivio.
Nov 22, 2016 12:25 PM

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pretty intense match but Vivio actually won
Nov 24, 2016 8:03 PM

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I was dead set sure that Rinne would win but damn!, I didn't expect that Vivio would still win and a really close match!
Oh no Jill is pissed-off because of her failure.
Rinne is in denial and also couldn't believe that she really lost!
Vivio's really strong! and that's somethin'!
5/5!


Nov 27, 2016 3:43 PM

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TYxTxYT said:
neonie said:


Thanks. And Damn. That really is... Odd, then. As I do feel like this season of... The continuation of what is essentially the Nanoha universe, does seem like it's trying to distance it self from Nanoha somewhat. (Although, some of the promotional art actually has Nanoha and Fate in it, which is also strange.)

And they haven't appeared in this season at all... Which is kind of a bummer. Because of my favorite parts of Nanoha is... Uh... Nanoha. (And the sweet, sweet tones of Tamura, Yukari.)


After that rage post I cooled my head(...) and thought over it, I think it kinda make sense because this was told in Rinne's monologue, and the information gathering of Jill is not the brightest to be honest, so Rinne probably never saw a photo of Nanoha/Fate, or know them being both female, or know the age difference between them and Vivio isn't that much.

Still a dick move though, Tsuzuki.

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My favorite character is Nanoha as well, are we gonna battle to death, and the winner can challenge Fate?


It might be related to Yukari Tamura quitting King Records, from what i've heard, they didn't part on good terms It might be related to Yukari Tamura quitting King Records, from what i heard, they didn't part ways in good terms http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-12/voice-actress-yukari-tamura-contract-with-king-records-ends/.98647
Nov 27, 2016 9:51 PM

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I am well aware of What happened between Yukarin and KR, however 7Arc is planning to release the third movie in 2017, so that should not get in the way.
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Nov 28, 2016 4:24 AM

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The only thing i don't really understand is the talk about Vivios body not being build for fighting, because of her backtory of the descendent (or however you wanna call it) of a famous warrior emperor.
A sub theme in the show is a variation on the nature vs nurture debate. Rinne's trainer believes that "natural talent," or one's basic body build, is the most important thing, and focuses entirely on physical training as a result. Thus, Rinne is phenomenal in that respect, but weak in other areas like mental and emotional strength. Vivio's trainer believes in the Kenichi phenomenon, where a strong heart and mind, with enough work, can produce an equally capable fighter.
Since trainers necessarily share their ideas with their students, a defeat by an "inferior" Vivio, especially twice in a row to prove it was no fluke, isn't just losing, but a complete repudiation of what Rinne's been taught to believe.

As for Vivio's connection to the Sankt Kaisers, that means nothing here. There is nothing that says Olivie didn't have the exact same weaknesses, but similarly overcome them.

Do we have any reason to think Olivie was a martial artist in the first place? She could have been a pure caster like Nanoha.

valvravetruth said:
This episode's subs need some serious repair.

Is the translator using some voice translation system by recording what the characters are saying and let system do all the translation, but the subs will be wrong if the character voice or speech is unclear.

If you're using Ron's subs, no, there is no way for an automated system to mistake legs for arms (or was it the other way around?). It's probably all-natural human mistakes.

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Hmm i can't tell whether Rinne's coach is using Rinne or that she cares about her

Rinne's coach is probably too straightforward to be "using" Rinne. She's just not a very good coach, even though she's good at martial arts. Because she isn't wise enough.
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Nov 28, 2016 4:50 AM
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Rinne's coach is probably too straightforward to be "using" Rinne. She's just not a very good coach, even though she's good at martial arts. Because she isn't wise enough.


Rather than using, it feels like Jill is only interested in making all her fighters/students to become stronger physically, she doesn't really put time in making them grow mentally. Harry even said that her training is rough on her and Victor.
Nov 28, 2016 6:32 AM

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What a surprise, I was expecting Rinne to win...

What a shame that they don't even show Nanoha and Fate's face in the photo...
Dec 3, 2016 3:57 AM

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Where are all the comments about this being an episode of Hajime No Ippo. (In the ense of paying homage)
-Im of course mostly talking about Mashiba's flicker jab and Ippo's finishing move to name a few
-cuz I loved it

Also makes sense for the picture censor because it was Rinne monologing about Vivio.
They probably didnt want Nanoha to pull focus away from Vivio.
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Dec 16, 2016 5:04 PM
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Very happy Vivio won, avoids the simpler plot route, and kinda like the character now even tho haven't seen any prequels. It was tank vs speed got worried Vivio will get smashed. Rinne looks super angry, & her coach seems messed up, like she's coaching for her own needs/regret.
So many random commentators with familiar va's & church people, wonder if they'll become relevant as some have cool characters.
Jan 11, 2017 2:48 PM

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Vivio getting in trouble there was a bit forced. She dodged from one side of the arena to the other before Rinne could react without even having landed a strike only a minute before, and there she does land a punch straight in the face, enough to make Rinne bleed, and Vivio doesn't even move one step.

That was enough time to either retreat to the next city or to land enough hits to make even Chun Li or Honda go green with envy.

They could easily have made Rinne finish her punch despite Vivio smashing her face in, that would have shown how resilient Rinne is and explained why Vivio didn't manage to dodge. Instead they make Rinne look weak because she didn't finish that punch, but give her a speed boost? Or make Vivio look stupid for not preemptively stepping back a bit like before.

I think i'll never gonna understand some decisions.

And i wanted to write "Nanoha" instead of Vivio like 10 times while writing the above.. shows how badly i want a new series about Nanoha.
Feb 19, 2017 11:22 PM
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Finally got time to watch this.

First of all Jill and Rinne got everything wrong about Vivio. I have to rant because it just pisses me off:

1) To claim Vivio does not have natural-born talent is wrong. Her body and existence is so special due to her being literally the reincarnation of a legend/saint that is worshiped by an entire religion. The fact that she can control her body to such extent this episode shows how hard work combined with her unique heritage becomes extremely powerful. Sure, she overall lacks defense but martial art is not about who can tank more hits. If she didn't get powered down from the events in StrikerS she would be way too OP.

2) To claim Vivio has a "sheltered rich girl life" cannot be more wrong. Her childhood and origin story is an order of magnitude more messed up than Rinne's. Seriously, Rinne was an orphan and was bullied in school. It was horrible but that was it... The magnitude of which Vivio's life was more fucked up is way more than she could have ever imagined. To not go into spoilers but if it were not for Nanoha and Fate, Vivio wouldn't even have survived the events of StrikerS. The fact that she did was a miracle in itself. Her "fragile" body was because of all the shit that happened in StrikerS.I'm happy that she can live a normal life right now (at least before events of Force)
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Mar 22, 2017 3:40 PM

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I hated this episode and the entire winter cup in general.

All it did was destroy Rinne’s character and credibility.

They had Rinne not fight at full power against Muira and had her go back on her words to win that fight and then this happens.

I expected a lot more from a character that is ranked #1 and chasing after Einhart’s and the championship belt.

Rinne’s overall fighting record that was shown during the 1st or 2nd episode was out of this world

Vivio is an established character that’s been around forever and would have lost nothing if she lost this fight as she got a win against Rinne another time so 50-50 booking would have been fine here.
Aug 24, 2017 11:46 AM

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Pretty intense episode, looking forwards for the next episode!
Sep 6, 2017 11:39 AM

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Finally someone wins over Rinne. I was waiting this. I am getting tired of Rinne's attitude.

I really enjoyed this episode. Was exiting to watch the fight.
Oct 30, 2017 6:40 PM
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Yes all that tropey talk about how this was a forgone conclusion was proven wrong.

About Nanoha and Fate, their anime parents in a photo not appearing in this show, of course they don't have faces.

Anime parents only get faces in photo's is sad.
Mar 9, 2020 9:21 PM

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throwing a reality check to her.

Wrong person gave it to her, but heh, still works.

Now Rinne will listen to Fuuka eventually, at least.
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Sep 30, 2021 6:13 AM

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Epic episode!! I'm surprised Vivio won vs Rinne, especially after all those injuries. I feel bad for Rinne though she's had it rough, and losing to the same opponent twice after giving it your all must be hard D:
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Mar 21, 2022 12:16 AM

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Censoring of Nanoha and Fate at 11:41..
Apr 16, 2022 2:02 PM

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Great match. I'm happy for Vivio, but I also feel sad for Rinne.

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