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alterzero said: Thess said: Huh? Ranka and Alto got fanservice moments, none of geninue interest from his side or of actual intimate nature. He failed to understand her and pointed a GUN in her direction out of his hatred from the Vajra. I hesitate to even call it a friendship. Freyja meanwhile has her birthday episode which alone was singlehandily more romantic than anything that Alto had with Ranka. Secondly, she had a conversation (foiled) about watching an old couple. There was never anything about Ranka and Alto like this. Their scenes were always framed in competition with Sheryl rather than standing on their own. Sorry, but I disagree. Even if I preferred Freyja and Hayate to remain friends instead, I felt they have portrayed legimately romantic interaction than anything Ranka got. Last episode is also a proof of that, he opened up with her about his father while Ranka always got sidelined for this kind of family chat (Sheryl got it). No harm there bro. To each his own. At least we can agree who seems to be winning atm. Well, I don't say I like their romantic relationship, I liked their relationship better when it wasn't romantic (and I miss it). I really doubt Freyja will die. She's the show most popular character and they need her alive for commercial reasons. Hayate and Mirage are more likely to die because they don't need them to survive to sell the show after it ends (meaning they have concerts programmed with real life Walkure, killing off the star will mean cancelled tickets and money loss). |
alterzero said: Thess said: Well, I don't say I like their romantic relationship, I liked their relationship better when it wasn't romantic (and I miss it). I really doubt Freyja will die. She's the show most popular character and they need her alive for commercial reasons. Hayate and Mirage are more likely to die because they don't need them to survive to sell the show after it ends (meaning they have concerts programmed with real life Walkure). Ah okay. Thanks for clarification. I agree that there was something beautiful during the friend moments. The first half was quite significant. But the reason why i am not feeling the romance at this stage is because the blushings on hayate part felt insufficient and quite a lot of the activities feels friend-ish. That's just me. They wanted this to be a "faint" love triangle where the relationships wouldn't develop over dramatic things but gradual feelings muted by the events of war, unfortunately it was obnoxious one IMO. I would have preffered Kaname/Messer/Arad as main love triangle. |
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Thess said: Re: Love "Triangle". Sponsors rumors aren't rumors. Do you want me to search quote about it from the interview? Kawamori didn't specifically say he wanted to take down the love triangle, just 'one of the three aspects of classic macross' (love triangle, transformable fighters and idols), but you can easily put two and two when the draft of Delta was about a valkyrie pilot club that was boosted by their idol's partner (so music and mecha were always part of this). Sponsors also insisted in the war story because Delta plan originally was just sports competition, so it's not just the love triangle that was added, but also the whole plot. Nonetheless, the foundation of the show is "pilot is powered up by their idol partner" which they have affirmed time and time again. That's why Mirage looks like a third wheel guest star and her scenes are awkward and forced as hell. Personally, I don't like Freyja and Hayate romantically (I love their friendship), but it's frankly pretty obvious they are the main couple. Novel version of Delta is written by the same Frontier author who was never ambiguous about Sheryl/Alto angle. And he portrays Hayate unknowingly in love with Freyja since their meeting *(Freyja thought he was a creep first, though). Still, they can end it "unresolved" like Frontier was (everyone knew Sheryl/Alto was a couple but didn't have the guts to say so until the movie). *Signs: Looking at her smile makes his heart race fast, touching her suddenly dispelled of his 'darkness' as if he was washed up by light, he constantly stalked her and made sure she was okay even irrationally because he's never done such thing before and was unwilling to leave her company. The novel insists she gave him his purpose in life and made him enjoy living which he didn't know before their meeting. It's not really subtle. Yeah, he thinks Mirage (and Mikumo and other Walkure) are beautiful, but they never get his heart race if that makes sense. Great..it's from Hayate's perspective.. it makes me want to read the light novel now XD I noticed that Hayate was so eager to save Freyja since ep 1 and he even stalked her to Ragna..to me it was so obvious that he was attracted to her ^^ Thank you for sharing .. |
| Yes, it seems like the father of Hayate was really innocent and the truth was someone remote controlled the Dimentional Bomb and the Father did all his best to minimize the casualties. Seems like Berger VA changed this episode. HayaHaya X Freyja had their good moments this time! So young Freyja already met the Father of Hayate. The massive NUNS fleet were majestically annihilated by their own Dimensional Bombs from the "Song of the Stars" DAMN!!! 5/5! |
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| As good as this episode was, the pacing of the second half of Delta has been a pure trainwreck. I have no idea how they will decently wrap this up in one last episode. Now that my Delta hype has worn off, I do also agree about the soundtrack being mostly 'meh', especially in comparison to Frontier. And, as much as I love some of Walkure's songs (most notably, Hametsu no Junjou, Axia and ikenai Borderline), nothing is as memorable as, say, Diamond Crevasse, Lion, all the variations of Aimo, or my eternal earworm - Ranka's version of What 'bout my Star? :'D Tl;dr - For so long, I wanted to love Delta as much as I loved Frontier. Delta is still a decent anime, but yeeeah. Trainwreck pacing, meh soundtrack, lack of focus on characters. |
| A spectacular way to destroy an enemy's fleet, the Star Singer's song in that particular scene sent shivers down my spine. This cannot end well, however. |
| so Macross Delta means delta waves that can mind control all humanoid lifeforms eh |
| Great episode with a very sweet and adorable scene between Hayate and Freyja, though i do get the feeling that eithier Freyja or Mikumo will die:/ but hope im wong. One episode left! |
| "Final battle" ... how many times was that said? How do they know? ... ugh! Yeah! Blow yourselves up with dimensional weapons! Pretty. |
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| Loving this series and I only have one more episode left to watch. And I guess this is as good as it's gonna get in terms of the show's songs/music and the romantic relationships. First off, the songs.... I dunno if it's just me but I'm actually disappointed. I watched this with high hopes for really awesome tracks especially after enjoying nearly every song from Macross Frontier that I ended up frantically looking all of it up on Youtube in hopes of finding out the titles and replaying it over and over. But here in Delta, I probably only like one song at most and that's "Giraffe Blues" (odd name too but whatever lol) and also the instrumental song at the end of this episode which I don't really think counts since it's a track from a previous Macross series. And as far as the romance goes, it was also a little underwhelming. Personally, I like Hayate and Freyja together but only as friends. Then again, I can't see Hayate and Mirage as anything more as friends either seeing as the development seemed a little lacking there. But between the two girls, it's kinda obvious Hayate + Freyja is more likely to happen. Actually, the romantic relationships of the main characters actually surprised me. I was confident that it would be emphasized a little more in the plot like they did with Macross Frontier but they didn't. Oh well. >_< Despite those complaints, I'm still enjoying the series and kinda sad it's all over after I watch the next episode. Dx |
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| After episode 23 I was not happy with the leads. But this episode revealing the truth of Hayate's Dad, as a "spy" who was trying NOT to bomb Windermere's capital city, he was trying to run and they remote detonated the weapon in his plane! Thank heavens now his son can fly with a clear conscience. NUNS are actually the bad guys. I mean, if someone genocided a city on my planet I too would want to tremove that threat from ever happening again. So I'm still on the side of Windermere. Welp, that poor girl is being used as a weapon by Walkure and NOW by the Windermerans. Really sad for her. OH wait they turned things around with that fleet that was going to wipe their planet out of existence with Dimensional Bombs by pulling a Reverse Uno NO YOU!!! card at the end. Bravo. The best defense is a good offense. Best Hayate x Freyja moment yet, when the piano and violin version of "Do you Remember Love" started playing, I may have teared up a little at the memories of the original Macross, which I remember fondly with love as it was one of the early animes I watched when I was younger. Aah the nostalgia factor was high, and this might be my favorite episode so far. |
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