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Jul 28, 2016 10:24 PM
#1
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- There are 2 Episode 3's, both with alternative routes. This one was labeled 1 from where I got it so I'll be making the topic for it Ep3 and the other Ep4. I can't say for sure but did the quality change? Been quite a long time since the first 2 episodes. It looks weird at times but good as well during others. Well anyways, Yayoi getting raped by that guy from before still but eventually gets help from other guys, or so she thought but Hiro was already in on everything and got the group of guys to rape her after helping her. By the end of the episode, she basically becomes his dog, collar and panting included. Mod Edit: Title adjusted as the episode has been moved to the sequel series. |
sarroushAug 14, 2016 8:13 PM
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Aug 6, 2016 7:07 PM
#2
There was a quality change in the two episodes from the original. I noticed some lazy shading and some of the art wasn't as sharp as the original two episodes. As far as the content, I was surprised that ZIZ did two endings for the series. In this episode, I more read it as she became Hiro's sex slave after the gang rape that he set up. I was glad to see that thug did get taken out however. |
Aug 12, 2016 12:44 AM
#3
I always welcome when studios take liberty adapting stories but I didn’t like this episode. The happy?! ending felt forced to me... and when Hiro was having his way (he was making her his slave via mind-break after he himself ordered some tugs to r@pe her) with Yayoi and the romantic music started to play I was laughing followed by a mental image of myself doing a faceplam. I want to say poor girl, but she's making it real hard for me to say it. |
Roy_FockerAug 13, 2016 8:34 PM
Aug 12, 2016 6:22 PM
#4
I kinda blame it on her for the fact that she didn't have the guts to call the cops on the guy who was threatening to harm hiro if she didn't want he says. If she really loved and wanted to protect hiro she ran slapped or call the cops the guy no matter the cost |
Aug 12, 2016 6:24 PM
#5
That way no of that would have happened and tada happy ending and continued its with them moving far away and living a happy life |
Aug 12, 2016 7:18 PM
#6
Hebizuka wears ring on forefinger: Moment later - it's middle finger: http://i.imgur.com/kEoeHKi.jpg |
SerhiykoFeb 17, 2020 3:03 PM
Aug 13, 2016 6:33 PM
#7
She's even more stupid if you've read the doujin, before the guy goes to the hospital to do it with her (when she was talking on the phone with Hiro) she looks at her cellphone thinking to call her friends to beat that guy up and then she says something among those lines "I know this is the best idea but I don't want to look like a pussy and rely on others, this is no big deal I'll just endure this feeling for the time being" then the guy comes and tells her he wants to do it right there instead of a hotel and she thinks "he'll get bored of me if I do whatever he says" and 3min later when the phone scene ends as you've seen in the anime she suddenly says she's addicted to him. Honestly this is the only reason I hate NTR, all the girls act completely stupid, who the fuck let's someone rape them 12hours a day every day because they don't want someone to learn a secret or because they caught them shopilifting an orange juice, or worse like this case, when they can easily prevent it but don't want to rely on others. |
Aug 13, 2016 8:28 PM
#8
@MuFeR That why this was stupid to begin with taking in consideration that this was a spin off Happyish type of ending for Hiro. Make her do the right choice... I did read the Manga the sex scenes were pretty damn good but I dropped the score of the Manga because of what you said... (if you present the theme of: Yayoi is still in contact/got friends in the gang and you as an author didn’t use it to the fullest why even bother in introduce it on the first place... you could say well if she called her friends the manga is going to end rapidly because they would help and you are right but then again if she called her friends and Mangaka-san didn’t want to end the manga prematurely and still introduce the theme why he didn’t make some of the gang members Hebizuka lap-dog in that way the heroine make the logical decision without disrupting what the author was going for (NTR)… Also she was a Nurse, a freaking Nurse so the no mention/no monologue and no use of contraceptive or emergency contraceptive methods (ECPs) was dumb as f*ck {are you telling me that a Nurse don’t have the knowledge to stop an unwanted pregnancy} and if author wanted to go the pregnant route he could have acknowledge that she was using ECP but Hebizuka via more blackmail or mind break could make her stop the use of ECP and now because she stopped and she is a nurse (she understand the value of life) she got knocked up but can’t bring herself to an abortion clinic because she don’t want to end the life of an innocent being...) Understanding that this is porn/fap material call it what you want.. doesn’t excuse poor execution… to me those little thing make or break/differentiate a good written H-manga from a weak sauce H-manga. |
Aug 13, 2016 8:48 PM
#9
Roy_Focker said: @MuFeR That why this was stupid to begin with taking in consideration that this was a spin off Happyish type of ending for Hiro. Make her do the right choice... I did read the Manga the sex scenes were pretty damn good but I dropped the score of the Manga because of what you said... (if you present the theme of: Yayoi is still in contact/got friends in the gang and you as an author didn’t use it to the fullest why even bother in introduce it on the first place... you could say well if she called her friends the manga is going to end rapidly because they would help and you are right but then again if she called her friends and Mangaka-san didn’t want to end the manga prematurely and still introduce the theme why he didn’t make some of the gang members Hebizuka lap-dog in that way the heroine make the logical decision without disrupting what the author was going for (NTR)… Also she was a Nurse, a freaking Nurse so the no mention/no monologue and no use of contraceptive or emergency contraceptive methods (ECPs) was dumb as f*ck {are you telling me that a Nurse don’t have the knowledge to stop an unwanted pregnancy} and if author wanted to go the pregnant route he could have acknowledge that she was using ECP but Hebizuka via more blackmail or mind break could make her stop the use of ECP and now because she stopped and she is a nurse (she understand the value of life) she got knocked up but can’t bring herself to an abortion clinic because she don’t want to end the life of an innocent being...) Understanding that this is porn/fap material call it what you want.. doesn’t excuse poor execution… to me those little thing make or break/differentiate a good written H-manga from a weak sauce H-manga. 100% agree, especially your list line of the spoiler, also agree that the sex scenes were good but honestly the ending paired with what I said in my previous comment completely killed it for me. (and the ending is way worse again if we count the details skipped from the manga) dude dies and for whatever reason Yayoi keeps the child and keeps living with hiro, hiro doesn't even have sex with her but brings his friends over to bang her and masturbates to the recordings but everything is good and they hold hands while sleeping |
Aug 13, 2016 11:26 PM
#10
Aug 14, 2016 12:16 AM
#11
The character is Meme from a Japanese music video called ME!ME!ME!, which is included in Nihon Animator Mihonichi as episode 3. |
K-AnimeAug 14, 2016 12:20 AM
Aug 14, 2016 7:02 AM
#12
LMAO when the fat guy told her not to let out disgusting moans Yayoi totes has no shame left, became dog at the end but even before that having such loose expression and body, feeling such ecstasy from the disgrace of her body and pissing all the time. Well it was quite lewd to see her as such disgrace (*˘︶˘*) facial and body fluids brought out the looselessness of her very well. Hiro gangrape and domination revenge was pretty brutal. Was surprised, but he has already shown himself to be a pretty jerky guy in previous EPs after all. Yayoi body shading at times reminded me of some of the NuTech Digital art from the 2000-ish times or is it five ways? final kiss with her teary and salivating face and such happy dog bark was quite lovable I think (*´ ˘ `*) |
User-sanAug 14, 2016 7:23 AM
Aug 14, 2016 8:11 PM
#13
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May 12, 2017 2:48 PM
#14
Billiel said: I kinda blame it on her for the fact that she didn't have the guts to call the cops on the guy who was threatening to harm hiro if she didn't want he says. If she really loved and wanted to protect hiro she ran slapped or call the cops the guy no matter the cost I'll answer you the reasons of why... and this is taken from real life facts. lets begin: -We all know that japan is a society of shame... and women prefer to let themselves be raped before facing public humiliation about it... Its worst! Even if they ask for help and the police intervene... the police themselves public humiliate the woman and even dares to say that its her fault, she did something to deserve it. People around begins pointing and treating them as scum even if its not her fault... So why ask for help if you still loose? (This is confirmed by actual articles I've read). That's why you see women who gets molested in trains keep quiet when they are under it... because if they scream or ask for help the police scold the woman instead of the guy, says its her fault. And also adds that she provoked "public harmony". old people are worst... because they can get off with anything. They molest a girl and if she complains, people and the police will frown at her and say: "he is just an old guy, he doesn't know better." (This was confirmed by an actual confession of an english speaking japanese girl that went through this and made a video blog of her nasty experience). We westerners have laws and police actually protect women on these matters... but other countries are not so lucky. [quote=MuFeR message=47345554] Roy_Focker said: [center] Honestly this is the only reason I hate NTR, all the girls act completely stupid, who the fuck let's someone rape them 12hours a day every day because they don't want someone to learn a secret or because they caught them shopilifting an orange juice, or worse like this case, when they can easily prevent it but don't want to rely on others. I'll answer you with the same explanation of above. - Everyone is "oooh NTR" this or "NTR" that... all fun and games huh? UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO YOU! Then you'll be cussing and reclaiming and throwing a tantrum. How ye get 'em apple! I, as personally victim of a real life ntr, can't approve. Its not fun or games... ntr is cheating in a harcore way and it hurts like hell when one becomes aware. I hate NTR to death... I thought this story wasn't the first time I saw it... she is a widow so she is fair game... then BOOM! NTR! lets add NTR for drama and profits! mother fu*** I dropped the series after episode 1. But i am speaking in the forums to say to those who like NTR... wait to it happens to you... then we talk. Unless you are a bastard who also cheats so you would not care a f*** -- I think in the end, MC and yayoi ends up as a master-slave type of relationship in the swingers category... they love each other emotionally, but not physically. Plus why would he stick his dick in a place other has dirtied with their seeds? She also said she got addicted to mc's friend's dick. |
May 13, 2017 8:53 AM
#15
@RandomCritic Well in the end of this episode your analysis is spot on but this is an alternate version (this episode is an anime original ending) the second one (next one) is closer to the manga thus there is not a master & slave relationship… is more of an Broken boy in mind & spirit and a pregnant sex junkie trying to cope with their new life… |
May 13, 2017 10:18 AM
#16
Roy_Focker said: @RandomCritic Well in the end of this episode your analysis is spot on but this is an alternate version (this episode is an anime original ending) the second one (next one) is closer to the manga thus there is not a master & slave relationship… is more of an Broken boy in mind & spirit and a pregnant sex junkie trying to cope with their new life… Yes, I agree with you. how ever... after episode 4 i had gone into further analysis on the matter and these are my conclusions, which i posted on the episode 4 forums but will say it here as well. After careful analyze and consideration. I believe that in the end of this episode both hiro and yayoi ended how they planned since the bvery beginning of episode 1 of season 1. On their first night together yayoi told him that they would be lovers for one night but return to being a family after. So at the end of the episode 2 (4 if counts all together), Yayoi and Hiro returned to being family and she is free to fuck anyone she wanted, and Hiro returned to masturbate while watching her being banged like he did back in the beginning when his brother was alive and banged yayoi and he secretly masturbated to it. Yayoi originally was a "bad girl" (gang girl) so I am not surprised that before marrying hiro's brother, she was a complete whore... and returned being a slut after all the ntr shit. --- I just realized something! I know that this is just a story and it was meant to be this way but I am thinking of it on a realism perspective so bare with me. We all had been thinking on the mind set that Hiro and Yayoi ended as lovers on episode 1 of season 1... but what if it was different? What if all this time Hiro's love was unrequited and yayoi all this time she thought of him as just a Sex Friend? This would explain why she so easily went with other men as well. She did not love him for real... if she loved him for real she would not had done what she did in the end f whoring herself with other men and leave him cockblocked. So in the end Hiro for her was just that cute and adorable boy-toy who one adores and wants to cuddle with and tease and maybe bang but just that and nothing else. Not a lover... but a meat dildo. I really feel bad for this kid... seriously. but this thoughts opened and illuminated my mind on a new perspective on their situation. but even so i still despise Yayoi because Hiro did not deserve that. On another note, I think Hiro broke down and became one of those men that has an ntr fetish and gets turned on when the one they love netorare in his face. Also I just finished reading the manga today and the conclusions mentioned before came to my mind after i finished the manga mostly as i further analyze the story. All these are still possibilities. Yet there is one more thing I realize after i saw the manga's epilogue: After reading the manga's epilogue... I came to the conclusion that chances are that Hiro and Yayoi ended in either an open relationship or a swingers marriage. Since yayoi herself became a nympho she could not love for real again since she just love sex and goes to who ever gives it best. And she herself said that she could no longer love Hiro as he wanted... Unless she really repented, which is hard for a sex addict, the only conclusion is open relationship or swingers, or master/slave. My only concern is them not involving the kid. Still, with the lack of second child perhaps they still didnt had sex together. What angers me the most is that she says she loves hiro and cant live without his dick at the beginning but now she loves his friend's better and leaving hiro cockblocked. Women always goes to someone better, no matter who. This happens in real life too... And i know because i myself had been a victim of real life ntr. NTR genre open back those wounds but i am a on critic and there is a job i must do. Plus someone says that facing one's fear and pain makes one stronger. So in the end i do not care about yayoi anymore, be a fking nympho and die. Good thing is that in real life, karma is vengeful. |
May 13, 2017 10:56 AM
#17
@RandomCritic I interpreted the epilogue a little bit different she after all those years was able to suppress her sex-addiction and she was able to cure him from his broken state of mind (of course that doesn’t negate the awful thing she did to him) leaving the breaking of their family intended by scumbag revenge to be a temporal thing, granted it took a lot of years but their relationship became somewhat stable thus but he chose to stay with her... But that is the beauty of having diverse points of view... different opinions, nothing wrong with that. |
May 13, 2017 11:10 AM
#18
Roy_Focker said: @RandomCritic I interpreted the epilogue a little bit different she after all those years was able to suppress her sex-addiction and she was able to cure him from his broken state of mind (of course that doesn’t negate the awful thing she did to him) leaving the breaking of their family intended by scumbag revenge to be a temporal thing, granted it took a lot of years but their relationship became somewhat stable thus but he chose to stay with her... But that is the beauty of having diverse points of view... different opinions, nothing wrong with that. True, i agree with. Different opinions and your point of view. it is a possibility, your view. Mostly for happy endings on a story tale. but reality is different. Sexual addition of hers, if viewed in real life is not that easy to overcome. You need a lot of psychological therapy to overcome those things, one can not just do it by one self. And japan lacks psychologist or psychiatrist. They see going to one as most dishonor because they are doctors for crazy. Japan's society teaches since birth that "You should man enough and hold within all the bad things that happens to you and face them" and "Maybe those bad things happened because you did something bad". Since japan is a society of shame, going to a shrink will make them face humiliation, something japan has a phobia to. I had research shrinks in Japan and there is a really lack of. Another thing is that mostly her actions in the manga later on was because of an aphrodisiac drug and that helped her control some. But the aftermath she was not using drugs and kept fucking other guys. This is why i say that they ended in an open relationship. In an open relationship the couple are together spiritually, love each other and are exclusive to each other emotionally. But physically they are not and just go with who ever they got interest with. Also that there is the ntr fetish that shows a man get aroused when seen his wife or love partner being fucked by someone else... which is one thing I concluded that Hiro ended with after he snapped on the last chapter of the manga thanks to the blond guy and Yayoi her self... the guy and she telling him that his dick and semen were worthless compared to the blond guy... and he got inferiority complex that he will never satisfy yayoi again... she also says so her self at the end of chapter 8 and before epilogue. Even so, hiro showed kindness to her after everything... yayoi says so herself... and she stayed with him for it... But I believe she stayed not because she loved him... she stayed out of guilt... and or compromise to atone for what she did. Not real love, but remorse. The epilogue doesn't specify exactly what happened in the end. its all left for the reader's conclusion, so all our opinions are valid because they are possibilities. But because of what happened, and my knowledge of how japanese society operates... these are mines. Which is why i think she ended up like something like Hiro's pet... serving his very whim in atonement for what she did... out of guilt and not love. Also, Yayoi was trained by the blond guy to be a sub/sex slave/servant/pet. I have knowledges of the world inside BDSM and dom/domme/slave/sub plays and stuff because I have acquaintances that participates in such things... And my friend, once you are broken into being a sub... there is no turning back... its a fetish drug like any others and specially those that find pain pleasurable... it is hard to overcome once you are broken into it without professional help. You will not do it by yourself once your mind is broken into it and became a slave to those desires. And like I said, professional help in japan is lacking because of said subjects. but that is just realism. This story is fantasy and happy endings like that for the ease of mind is better. Sadly epilogue was made for reader's interpretations so all opinions are valid and possible. - My only wish is that the kid is spared from all that... edit--- P.S. The problem here mostly is trust. if i was in hiro's shoes and really love yayoi-san (and speaking of personal opinion in a sense), I would forgive her and care for her... but there is still the trust issue. How can I trust a woman who did that to me? There is a mayor chance she will do it again. (True, I will break the relationship and just stay as acquaintances, but that is just me. We don't know how deep sorry yayoi is... and Hiro and her's relationship now is a weird one so my personal opinion is mostly for a "normal" relationship situation. So yeah... everything is open for interpretation. Still, Hiro was man enough to have compassion for yayoi-san since she was pregnant with a child and not throw her into the streets to die and/or be devour by other scumbags. So he took pity and responsibility to care for her and her child out of kindness and his love for her. yet, he decided not to touch her again because of that betrayal and just went with using her like a porn star to pleasure himself with. And she follows out of guilt for what she did and not out of love. That is my opinion. |
ThatRandomDudeMay 13, 2017 11:34 AM
May 13, 2017 11:44 AM
#19
@RandomCritic Fair enough... |
Jul 24, 2017 7:56 AM
#20
Oct 9, 2020 1:17 AM
#21
Why Hiro didn't fuck yayoi again? |
Nov 2, 2022 2:09 AM
#22
MuFeR said: well,Episode 3 and 4 plays the similar role in the manga. Roy_Focker said: @MuFeR That why this was stupid to begin with taking in consideration that this was a spin off Happyish type of ending for Hiro. Make her do the right choice... I did read the Manga the sex scenes were pretty damn good but I dropped the score of the Manga because of what you said... (if you present the theme of: Yayoi is still in contact/got friends in the gang and you as an author didn’t use it to the fullest why even bother in introduce it on the first place... you could say well if she called her friends the manga is going to end rapidly because they would help and you are right but then again if she called her friends and Mangaka-san didn’t want to end the manga prematurely and still introduce the theme why he didn’t make some of the gang members Hebizuka lap-dog in that way the heroine make the logical decision without disrupting what the author was going for (NTR)… Also she was a Nurse, a freaking Nurse so the no mention/no monologue and no use of contraceptive or emergency contraceptive methods (ECPs) was dumb as f*ck {are you telling me that a Nurse don’t have the knowledge to stop an unwanted pregnancy} and if author wanted to go the pregnant route he could have acknowledge that she was using ECP but Hebizuka via more blackmail or mind break could make her stop the use of ECP and now because she stopped and she is a nurse (she understand the value of life) she got knocked up but can’t bring herself to an abortion clinic because she don’t want to end the life of an innocent being...) Understanding that this is porn/fap material call it what you want.. doesn’t excuse poor execution… to me those little thing make or break/differentiate a good written H-manga from a weak sauce H-manga. 100% agree, especially your list line of the spoiler, also agree that the sex scenes were good but honestly the ending paired with what I said in my previous comment completely killed it for me. (and the ending is way worse again if we count the details skipped from the manga) dude dies and for whatever reason Yayoi keeps the child and keeps living with hiro, hiro doesn't even have sex with her but brings his friends over to bang her and masturbates to the recordings but everything is good and they hold hands while sleeping Here's the symposis: after the incident, Yayoi and Hebazuki fuck in the house all day, all night, according to Hiro and the pills Yayoi took. Hebazuki promise he won't hurt Hiro if she doesn't have sex with him. But it was too late. Hiro heard and saw everything, as she pirced her body. Even at the park, Yayoi become mentally weak, betray Hiro and Hiro's heart and mind snapped. After Hebazuki said she finished training and done with her, she crying, but still felt exciting due to the pills, lusting for the ntr. During five months, Yayoi got Hebazuki beaten by the gangs, but the tables have turned and pin down by the gang. Since Hiro snapped, he let the gangs raped her as he mastrubate before he could forgive her. Remember, just like he can't touch her, he has an ntr fetish. Afterwards, she is welcome to stay and forgiven. That's why Hiro invite his friends over. P.s: she begged Hiro to save her twice and regret being weak. That's what happened. 1. It's a sequel, not an ova. Ovas has alternate endings 2. The episode are like one of these episodes that swapped the scenes of the plot. 3. Yayoi is forgiven and mentally healed. If she isn't, she would have left Hiro and Hiro would have let the gangs raped her and she would have died. 4. The only non canon scene is Hiro had sex with Yayoi after the gangbang. 5. The pirceing doesn't always stay on. It was off afterwards. 6. Ep4 is almost canon since they it doesn't have Hiro's ntr fetish after the park. Only ep3 has Hiro's ntr fetish. 7. Yayoi is at phase 2 of ntr. Ntr has four phases. If she's at phase 3, she would have left and forget all about Hiro. For example: Katsuko Kurose, from Unsweet netorare ochita onna-tachi, completed the NTR. 8. The gangbang taken place during 5 months and after the park. 9. The pills has an alcoholic effect. 10. There are two revenge sex: one is Nebazuki and the other is Hiro after his mind snapped. 11. The park sex scene was mentioned by both Hiro and Yayoi in ep3: Hiro said that she was playing with his feeling since she kiss the rapist and Yayoi cried tears meaning she was too late. 12. Since she become a sex slave, she'll might forget about Hiro. That's why Yayoi set Nebazuki up with a gangbeat. Even if he vanish, he's not going to let her go. What Hebazuki did at the park, He owns her now. She's his puppet. And when he's done playing her like a violin, he's going to cut her strings. 13. Also, Hiro fap to the recording of Yayoi getting raped during his sleep and yayoi getting raped by a group of men. 14. Since she said that Hiro was not good enough for her, he ignored her pleaing and begging as she was raped by the gang, until she admit what she become. 15. Hiro said "Ever since that night.", meaning he was talking about what happen at the park. Or ep3 is more like ch 8.5 16. The fact that Hiro said she gets turn on, no matter who have sex with her in Ep3 is proven in the manga. |
Grady-Gmoney_199Feb 3, 2023 1:20 AM
Jan 16, 2023 4:43 PM
#23
MuFeR said: that's because ep3 is almost canon. The ending of ep3 is non canon.Roy_Focker said: @MuFeR That why this was stupid to begin with taking in consideration that this was a spin off Happyish type of ending for Hiro. Make her do the right choice... I did read the Manga the sex scenes were pretty damn good but I dropped the score of the Manga because of what you said... (if you present the theme of: Yayoi is still in contact/got friends in the gang and you as an author didn’t use it to the fullest why even bother in introduce it on the first place... you could say well if she called her friends the manga is going to end rapidly because they would help and you are right but then again if she called her friends and Mangaka-san didn’t want to end the manga prematurely and still introduce the theme why he didn’t make some of the gang members Hebizuka lap-dog in that way the heroine make the logical decision without disrupting what the author was going for (NTR)… Also she was a Nurse, a freaking Nurse so the no mention/no monologue and no use of contraceptive or emergency contraceptive methods (ECPs) was dumb as f*ck {are you telling me that a Nurse don’t have the knowledge to stop an unwanted pregnancy} and if author wanted to go the pregnant route he could have acknowledge that she was using ECP but Hebizuka via more blackmail or mind break could make her stop the use of ECP and now because she stopped and she is a nurse (she understand the value of life) she got knocked up but can’t bring herself to an abortion clinic because she don’t want to end the life of an innocent being...) Understanding that this is porn/fap material call it what you want.. doesn’t excuse poor execution… to me those little thing make or break/differentiate a good written H-manga from a weak sauce H-manga. 100% agree, especially your list line of the spoiler, also agree that the sex scenes were good but honestly the ending paired with what I said in my previous comment completely killed it for me. (and the ending is way worse again if we count the details skipped from the manga) dude dies and for whatever reason Yayoi keeps the child and keeps living with hiro, hiro doesn't even have sex with her but brings his friends over to bang her and masturbates to the recordings but everything is good and they hold hands while sleeping |
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