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| I really want the Empire to crush this invasion |
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Mikiyo said: What a fucking ridiculous guy is this Fork, I still don't understand how Yang let him gave that ridiculous speech without even let out the oportunity to talk, but then again; his personality is very passive, I wish he could strenght out to stand between all the present admirals, since he has the elements to do so. I'm not even counting out the fact of how smart he is. But really I wish Fork dies of sifilis in the space. Anyways what incomin intense battle eh? Can't wait for it. All of this. Though, I find this episode the most boring episode so far. Some interesting conversation, while some where putting me to sleep. Onwards to the next episode. |
| "Accusing anyone who questions your ideas, or advises caution of aiding the enemy..That's impolite" THANK YOU, WHATEVER YOUR NAME IS!!! xD I swear this Fork guy has the reasoning of a 3 year old. I can't wait to see the look on his face once his plan fails. |
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| My god this show is amazing. I don't find these talky episodes boring in the least; it's more like some HBO drama. One thing I haven't been able to really follow is Truniht. Here he votes against the deployment but vaguely talks in favour of it beforehand. And a few episodes ago Yang says he stitched him up by assigning him that Greenhill lady. Didn't entirely follow that logic at the time as she seemed very qualified (too many characters to properly keep up with) and there wasn't enough in this episode to draw conclusions from, but I like the nuance. |
| "This is no time to be intoxicated with cheap humanitarianism." "Which of us is intoxicated?" Damn that was satisfying. I hated that smug ass look on her face. Secretary of Treasury didn't get his way either way. The whole meeting reminded me of those social studies discussions back in high school. That was fun. |
| for, i dont understand, how can you follow a plan of a "novice"??? The plan is arrive, conquest and wathc :? |
| "We must try, even if we all die." I don't think that's what every citizen thinks, though... I wonder if these politicians are actually basing their votes off of what the citizens who for them want, or if they're just voting based on their own thoughts and values. I mean considering the low support rating for the council, seems like it's more likely the latter. Truniht though. What he said in response to the Secretary of Human Resources clearly shows that he was on the side of war, even if he didn't end up voting for it. So calculating. But yeah, agree with everyone that both meetings in this episode were interesting to watch, even if both meetings had frustrating people talking. Really doesn't show that the FPA is any better than the Empire. |
| I wish the minor antagonists were a bit more nuanced, but I guess Ford is fine like this too. I think this show can be a bit too tongue in cheek at times, but I think that's part of its charm. |
| your waifu is shit |
| It's pretty funny/horrifying looking back and seeing how this exact jingoistic rhetoric was used to justify the Iraq war. The council scene in particular made my blood run cold. This show is slow but each episode reveals a little more of a universe realized in stunning detail. 12 episodes in, I'm hooked. |
| "It's our great duty to topple despotic governments." Never heard that line from a democratic superpower before. |
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| Fuck Fork, that bitch aint know what he be talking about. Siding with the Empire on this one although Yang is my boy |
| I'm just amazed by the fact that this show perfectly captures how disgusting politics is, from both sides. Very relatable in the real world too. P.S. Kinda sad they didn't show Yang's visit to the Greenhills :-[ |
St0rmbladeFeb 24, 2019 1:53 PM
| That council woman and Fork are the embodiment of every liberal-interventionist ideologue utter fanatic and jackass ever. They even referred to prolonging the war with the new offensive as a "crusade". It's exactly how the "let's bomb to spread liberal democracy at gunpoint" crowd thinks, like the Christian crusaders answering some holy call. It's just a secularized version. I'm not rooting for either side not because of the system of government of either at home, but because both, at least at this point, seem rabidly and cravenly expansionist. After this episode the Alliance plutocrats come off worse though so I'm pulling for a decisive Galactic defensive victory. Ideally it wouldn't embolden them too much either, but if the invading forces get trounced, it could lead to domestic unrest and fall of the government which would be delicious. |
| I feel like seeing real life politicians debating It feels so real and so disgusting Can't wait for the rebels defeat, it's obvious the empire is going to win this Hopefully Yang can avoid total defeat Pretty cool buildup for the first "real war" between Yang and Reinhard |
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St0rmblade said: I'm just amazed by the fact that this show perfectly captures how disgusting politics is, from both sides. Very relatable in the real world too. P.S. Kinda sad they didn't show Yang's visit to the Greenhills :-[ This show really does do a great job of making both sides seem equally likable and detestable. |
| 2021 Rewatch Love this episode, the scene with all the politicians especially. The alliance has a lack of skilled workers handling civilian affairs because the military takes all the best people (it's also why Yang got stuck in a jam at the beginning of the episode), and of course, they're the drain on the economy due to the war effort. Zealots who'd want to "spread democracy" to the empire vs those who'd push for short term peace because they already got Iserlohn. Love it... Pitting the unrealistic plan of Ford, who wants to make a name for himself vs Yang, who's done it but doesn't flaunt it. Ugh, he'd really thinks the citizens of the empire wold just join in and help them if they invade. |
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| "bro trus me we guna invade dem n dey wil b freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪" never heard that before... Beatnik said: Wow, Fork really pulled a Bush admin stance in that meeting, eh? "You're either with this utterly retarded plan or you hate freedom!" How unbelieveble that this cheesy 80's anime character's speech was still more coherent than anything that President babbled at the world. aixelsyd said: The conference basically pointed out every stupid thing that was done in the U.S. in the previous administration, especially, in regards to inflation and how the war severely damaged our economy, and why such a senseless war such as the 'War on Terror' was ever fought. Too bad Legend of the Galactic Heroes wasn't super popular in the U.S. before that time. Maybe more people would have been able to see the strings being pulled other than those falsely labeled as mere crackpots and conspiracy theorists. But the accuracy of how it describes the politics in my own country amazes me, but I suppose that is because while the players and the circumstances change, the logic and the tactics don't. Tsukaji said: Oh my, if I didn't know that this was made it the 80's, I would suspect that they are parodying USA's war on terror. Is Fork going to rename Yang cookies to Freedom cookies in the next episode?\ 1inaforest said: shit fr hits 2 close 2 home 😬😬😬😬It's pretty funny/horrifying looking back and seeing how this exact jingoistic rhetoric was used to justify the Iraq war. |
HoodKublaiKhanJul 9, 2021 2:04 PM
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| They make Fork more obviously stupid here. I prefer the remake design. |
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| with yang wondering the FPA government vs imperial system and all the political discussion here, it made me wonder loudly what would happen in communism in LotGH. it would be crazy lol. folk is maybe the stupidest soldier in this anime so far. if i were the imperial i would known they will send the forces from the fortress, so i would send my forces in the phezzis direction around them and firing them from back. at any rate the next war going to be the greatest so far. oh, and truniht is probably the best politician here lol. |
| I love anticipating the deaths of millions BWAHAHAHHA |
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| Fork really is not the brightest mind in the room but maybe he will have some sort of development or at least interesting moments The 30 million troop powerhouse of the alliance looks promising but it might go down badly in an instant Nice episode looks like the main battle is about to happen |
| A lot of setup this episode, but it all felt necessary even if it was a bit dry to watch. 30 million men? That is nuts. |
The duration of this episode felt eternal |
| Episodes like this are why I dislike watching the Alliance dedicated episodes so far. All it is is watching Saint Yang and his holy peace party standing against the most baffling portrayals of ultra nationalist politicians ever. And worse is that anyone non-aligned is just dead silent, like all of the others in the military council. Everything works to make Yang look like the single sane guy around, as though everyone else in the military is utterly brain-dead or outright malicious. That Council meeting reeked of this too. The hardcore warhawk lady had no appeals but "hur dur freedom" to a council of presumed professionals. Then she turned around and was like "harrumph, how naive" as if she wasn't just speaking in nonsense platitudes before. I get politicians can be ridiculous in real life, but they should at least try to find some surface-level justifications for their beliefs, even if they don't make sense with further inspection. Like with all the Bush Iraq war comparisons, remember the CIA and politicians at least had something to back their idealism with, even if it turned out false. Doesn't mean they were right in starting the invasion, just that they had something behind the madness. But instead, here everyone but the peace-loving humanitarians is a brain-dead moron or greedy scumbag. Would it kill them to have a single warhawk that actually thinks, even if they are wrong? The Empire stuff has some of this shallowness too, but at least Reinhardt and his crew are not some messiahs and instead have nefarious intent of their own. The personal drama with Kolstrop and Benemunde also feels more interesting and gets some sympathy, even if they do bad things. Those episodes actually feel good to watch, unlike this travesty. At least we'll be able to see more officer-porn battle stuff soon. Yay. EDIT: Let me rephrase now that I had some time away. My problem with the Alliance is not that the people there are unrealistic, its that they lack any substance behind their views. They're just mannequins for Yang to demolish when he inevitably proves them wrong, and this is not satisfying to me. Yang should not be flawless, and his opponents not completely flawed. Every time this happens, I don't feel joy at their impending demise, instead I just feel annoyed that the show couldn't be bothered to do something interesting. Like I mentioned, the Imperials have some of this problem too, but it feels less obnoxious than the Alliance due in large part to Reinhardt's instability. I really want to like Yang and the Alliance sections, but this just drives me up the wall. |
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Baskarite said: I'd probably kill myself if fucking kyun kyun came on over the speaker while I was trying to fight. |
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