| Nevermind. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| Not exactly sure what Karote's deal, but whatever. I just hope they aren't an arsonist with some stupid hidden that can only ignite when the die. But whatever, I'm too salty to want to keep playing this game/think straight. Anyway, who should I cock block tonight? I want Doki to die tonight, but I know we need to deal with the rb situation, and "maybe" cop, depends if Chione will buy into Denja's cop play - she seemed interested in dividing the cop duty rather than cross-check. So I am willing to bet she will spend tonight checking Foung (repping Tingles). coro is obviously JoAT I *think*, which was a role I considered fake rcing to buy time, but like that is going to make a difference at this point. |
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LucianRoy said: I would really like to hear what exactly is the problem Lucian. Will it be okay to post here if you're okay with that?Massclaiming is a legitimate strategy for town, and it should definitely be allowed, just like it always has been. Still, it's not the massclaims, nor the players using the strategy that are at fault. If everyone is wondering, I was making town feel bad with the massclaim thing. It might help us xDD yknow demoralize your enemy lmao |
| I don't know how Chione thinks when she is an investigative role. She did make mention she would have wished to split up the investigations, so I am assuming she buy's Denja's claim. But I don't know what kind of hidden she might have, since she said she used her hidden in night 1? even though I roleblocked her. But I think at this point, I don't know the best way to consider the night kills because I should have listened to Lucian, we needed to find the best way to kill as many towns as possible. At least towns that would seem the less protected from anyway. Dealing with the hider directly might be a waste of our time at the moment since I could easily be rbed tonight. I'm not off the suspect list just yet, I am godfather candidacy apparently which I find hilarious. But another reason why I want Chione dead is so she doesn't check Foung, the replacement for Tingle. I want Foung to claim lover, so I might consider counterclaiming it instead - though there is risk in this because Doki made mention he has a hidden that can confirm a lover claim, if this is night time hidden that I am not worried because I will end up dying in due time anyway. But I want to make a case against Foung since he is fairly new, and inexperienced, so that town believes me over him - I would even use my stupid D1 self preservation play as an excuse as being a weak means of protecting my lover from being killed. But the plan would be to kill Foung as being the weaker claim, and bring down Doki on a lynch unknowningly. Of course, coro could be the lover too and that way I am just mega screwed over at that point I think. The other option I had in mind is that Lucian, can make a late CC being for the role cop, murder Denja in cold blood, and kill me at some point so that town will have a false sense of hope that mafia threat is eliminated. It would be a gamble for town to find out the other converted role, so it would be town vs town play with all the claims. I would trust at that point that LucianRoy could stand your ground. those are my strategy thoughts in a nutshell @LucianRoy @DenjaX |
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| The late CC would never work and no one would buy it. Pretty much everyone who's claimed thus far, and has gone uncountered is confirmed. The only thing I'm concerned about is the stray investigation on either Soul or myself. Chione would be a decent option in this case. However, since there are very slim chances of us winning, I would recommend we kill as many town as possible. That's my input on the matter. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
DenjaX said: LucianRoy said: I would really like to hear what exactly is the problem Lucian. Will it be okay to post here if you're okay with that?Massclaiming is a legitimate strategy for town, and it should definitely be allowed, just like it always has been. Still, it's not the massclaims, nor the players using the strategy that are at fault. If everyone is wondering, I was making town feel bad with the massclaim thing. It might help us xDD yknow demoralize your enemy lmao I will answer this after the game has ended. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| I'm sure people will see that Lucian is the converted with me saving him Day 2 xDD dammit this game is really my fault. But yeah claiming lover is so risky because Doughkey has a lot of leverage. He is probably faking that he does not know his role, he probably know his lover, he probably has detection if someone is his real lover, etc. This is very risky. But yeah, I can help you with me claiming that you are innocent and sheep with you. xDD The element of surprise they will get from this game that they were wrong about the mafias. I am the real godfather lmao. This might be a longshot but I think I can try to convince Jack to be lynched to render town easy effort of win useless. If we pull off the lover lynch on next day phase. Next day phase, I can announce to everyone that Jack is actually a cockblocker. He might see the hint and accept the lynch. But yeah, I'm grasping straws here. I am pretty much finding hopeless ways to win xDD |
DenjaX said: I'm sure people will see that Lucian is the converted with me saving him Day 2 xDD dammit this game is really my fault. It's not your fault. But yeah claiming lover is so risky because Doughkey has a lot of leverage. He is probably faking that he does not know his role, he probably know his lover, he probably has detection if someone is his real lover, etc. This is very risky. But yeah, I can help you with me claiming that you are innocent and sheep with you. xDD The element of surprise they will get from this game that they were wrong about the mafias. I am the real godfather lmao. This might be a longshot but I think I can try to convince Jack to be lynched to render town easy effort of win useless. If we pull off the lover lynch on next day phase. Next day phase, I can announce to everyone that Jack is actually a cockblocker. He might see the hint and accept the lynch. But yeah, I'm grasping straws here. I am pretty much finding hopeless ways to win xDD Short answer is: I'm going to die tomorrow. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| I go by democratic majority. If you guys believe Chione is the correct kill tonight, that's perfectly fine. However, other than Chione, who appears to be the most appealing kill? |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
I'm going to get caught in the massclaim. Plain and simple. I'm in no proper position to counter anyone, as it would result in you dying as well, and I can't claim a role only to be countered, same reason. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: There's still other roles for grabs and QUEEN is willing to take the sacrifice for our sake. But yeah, people could go with godfather reasons to lynch you. I want to avoid that as much as possible because if you die, I am also as good as dead. We are now bound forever. xDDI go by democratic majority. If you guys believe Chione is the correct kill tonight, that's perfectly fine. However, other than Chione, who appears to be the most appealing kill? As for other kill, I am predicting who would Xia hide tonight. So I am thinking it could be WurstPanda because he's not a tempting food. Also Xia might hide between people who haven't roleclaimed yet. So if Xia did not hide on you or QUEEN, it would be coro or Foung. Xia would never hide behind confirmed power roles. And he would think that mafia's would kill suspects. Well I'm sure Xia already got the answer about his true role function. If he is still thinking that his hide can protect, he will still hide behind me. or if we're lucky, he will hide behind Chione. |
LucianRoy said: You have every reason to counter anyone. I thought you purposely out for the rest of the phase for this moment. xDD You can come in, claim someone right off the bat. You will win the claiming and have the original role holder lynch because I confirmed you innocent. I have strong influence in town lmao. xDDI'm going to get caught in the massclaim. Plain and simple. I'm in no proper position to counter anyone, as it would result in you dying as well, and I can't claim a role only to be countered, same reason. |
| You should really read the role description for hider on the mafiascum wiki. Hider doesn't protect roles, and is susceptible to night kills if their target is shot. That's the core aspect of the hider, it's definitely adapted here, but that aspect is the same. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Yes I read the true description of the hider. But Xia, the real hider, thinks it could protect. That is why he hide behind me on Night 2. So why not exploit his misconception?You should really read the role description for hider on the mafiascum wiki. Hider doesn't protect roles, and is susceptible to night kills if their target is shot. That's the core aspect of the hider, it's definitely adapted here, but that aspect is the same. |
DenjaX said: LucianRoy said: You have every reason to counter anyone. I thought you purposely out for the rest of the phase for this moment. xDD You can come in, claim someone right off the bat. You will win the claiming and have the original role holder lynch because I confirmed you innocent. I have strong influence in town lmao. xDDI'm going to get caught in the massclaim. Plain and simple. I'm in no proper position to counter anyone, as it would result in you dying as well, and I can't claim a role only to be countered, same reason. I counter Joe-town, everyone lynches joe-town. Joe-town flips the role I claimed. Everyone lynches me. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
DenjaX said: LucianRoy said: Yes I read the true description of the hider. But Xia, the real hider, thinks it could protect. That is why he hide behind me on Night 2. So why not exploit his misconception?You should really read the role description for hider on the mafiascum wiki. Hider doesn't protect roles, and is susceptible to night kills if their target is shot. That's the core aspect of the hider, it's definitely adapted here, but that aspect is the same. So you're proposing we kill chione because Xia will attempt to protect her? |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| That's a gamble and a half, but I like it. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Yep. that is inevitable. But we can buy you time if that situation happened to QUEEN first. yknow? I counter Joe-town, everyone lynches joe-town. Joe-town flips the role I claimed. Everyone lynches me. I just don't want the converted to be revealed for their sake. |
LucianRoy said: Well, the downside about this is that Jack and Kasai corrected Xia. But as far as I see, Xia is still convinced that he could truly protect. If he is still holding his own beliefs, he could be hiding behind me and Chione. If he learned the truth about the hider role, he will hide behind the least likely to get killed tonight. xDDSo you're proposing we kill chione because Xia will attempt to protect her? That's a gamble and a half, but I like it. might as well ask the host: @Flopsy Explain yourself about the hider role!!!?!?11 xDD But yeah, the reason why I saved you Lucian because of this moment. I know massclaiming will be the death of us due to Iss being dead Day 1. We are greatly outnumbered. The TPR are not helping either. That's why your converted role was the REAL asset for the team. |
LucianRoy said: I go by democratic majority. If you guys believe Chione is the correct kill tonight, that's perfectly fine. However, other than Chione, who appears to be the most appealing kill? DoughKey 2 for the price of one seems tasty. but Chione might be nicer one to consider. oh btw Denja, you are bound to me too eh? since you claimed me innocent as well, how would you explain that one once I flip up scum? |
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| Queen is really the one who should be staying alive, but since that option looks bleak as well, I'm semi-ok with the sacrifice. There's a high chance that I'll be forced to claim as well tomorrow if Dough and Co continue that agenda while simultaneously lynching counters, claims, etc. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| I don't believe the hider role says anything about disrupting the original results of actions taken on by their target, or being the only one hit by said actions. I'm happy to address issues to whichever extent I want, but yeah, not exactly going to intervene just because someone is misunderstanding something. If said player with the role isn't going to ask me about it, I wont correct them ^^ |
| Scratch that, I didn't read. The sweet embrace of death is upon us. It's a scum triangle. The scummiest three pointed shape in existence. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Yep. I'm definitely guilty with that. I can claim that godfather has framer ability LMFAO. I'm good at BS xDDoh btw Denja, you are bound to me too eh? since you claimed me innocent as well, how would you explain that one once I flip up scum? |
DenjaX said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Yep. I'm definitely guilty with that. I can claim that godfather has framer ability LMFAO. I'm good at BS xDDoh btw Denja, you are bound to me too eh? since you claimed me innocent as well, how would you explain that one once I flip up scum? not the framer lol |
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| Turns out. I didn't read either. hehehe. Ha, beat that. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Scratch that, I didn't read. The sweet embrace of death is upon us. It's a scum triangle. The scummiest three pointed shape in existence. lol. if only I had a choice in the matter at the time. I am so much more use to my SK-meta for mafia |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Hey it works on the Magi game. You can't deny that :P Take that @Soren !!! xDDnot the framer lol Also, people might give me the benefit of the doubt because I claimed L. They never thought about the converter and they think I'm legit town. xDD |
LucianRoy said: This is why I brought Jack into the picture. Make it scum rectangle. I prepared it for this certain moment. I'm going to put him into good use xDDScratch that, I didn't read. The sweet embrace of death is upon us. It's a scum triangle. The scummiest three pointed shape in existence. And just for your information, Chione did not confirm Jack's innocence. |
| Uhhh, Jack countered Karote, and lynched Karote. He flipped scum. How exactly are you going to paint him scummy? |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Uhhh, Jack countered Karote, and lynched Karote. He flipped scum. How exactly are you going to paint him scummy? +1 little fox has a point there, Denja. |
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LucianRoy said: By the power of Donald Trumping this game. I will make a bullshit reason.Uhhh, Jack countered Karote, and lynched Karote. He flipped scum. How exactly are you going to paint him scummy? TPR claimed roleblocker. It would not be a surprise if mafia claimed roleblocker. Not everyone are claiming yet so theres still uncertainties. That's why I want to be very careful and take into account what you guys will counterclaim xDD For the record, this game is no longer about scum reading, meta analysis, and vote tracking. It is more informative. People will easily sway with the power of information/bullshit. xDD |
| I still don't see what a conf. from Chione would do to Jack's current stance in the game. He's pretty town. ^I don't think that's the case, but you're free to act on what you think is best in this current situation in the game. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Yeah. but does townie action beat the power of bullshit coming from a claiming cop? xDDI still don't see what a conf. from Chione would do to Jack's current stance in the game. He's pretty town. |
DenjaX said: LucianRoy said: Yeah. but does townie action beat the power of bullshit coming from a claiming cop? xDDI still don't see what a conf. from Chione would do to Jack's current stance in the game. He's pretty town. I don't want to murder Jack -_- |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: With the amount of bullshit I made with my so called "hidden ability", I could manipulate town that QUEEN lied about being lover but she is roleblocker. (I will probably play the drama card where I deduce that QUEEN is being apathetic/suicidal in this game and want to ruin town lmao)I don't want to murder Jack -_- That way I can frame Jack guilty. I did not confirm Jack's role (oh thank god) there is still more room for bullshit. xDD Also, Jack was willing to die to ruin town as well. We might be able to convince him to accept lynch. xDD |
| We are better off lynching Foung at this point. |
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| Denja, if you think it will work, go for it. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
SoulEaterQUEEN said: We are better off lynching Foung at this point. Aww, don't be mean to the new players. There's still a chance for us to not stoop that low. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| You guys think my plan is too much? I've always worked solo when I play mafia. Nobody can truly follow my line of thinking xDD This is why I was the last mafia standing in Magi game. Please I need feedback xDD |
| I'm perfectly fine with the plan. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| wait, what's the plan again lol, so lost with the discussion while I'm studying chem |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: wait, what's the plan again lol, so lost with the discussion while I'm studying chem Just let Denja work his magic. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| sure, but what does my puppet role going to involve exactly? |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Yes, we nightkill someone tonight. Then we lynch Foung or whoever is the lover on next day phase = 2 kills. Plus 1 night kill = 4 townie deaths.We are better off lynching Foung at this point. Remaining town= 7 mafia=3 I will bullshit my way through to lynch jack. If we win, we get good night kill = 2 townie deaths. Remaining town =5 mafia=3 QUEEN will get lynched. Then we night kill = 1 town and 1 mafia death. Remaining town =4 mafia=2 Lucian will fight with the counterclaim. If Lucian win = 1 town death. Then 1 night kill = 2 town death Remaining town=2 mafia=2 Yeah this is an opportunistic and very optimistic plan lmao. |
| For that plan to work, we need a guaranteed night kill of two townies tonight. Wouldn't the lovers be the wisest choice in that situation? |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: For that plan to work, we need a guaranteed night kill of two townies tonight. Wouldn't the lovers be the wisest choice in that situation? YES let's kill Doki yes please |
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| Hey, I can cock block Chione tonight instead and we can kill Doki |
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| btw wtf do we do about Panda? |
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