| No,it's mediocre at best. |
| if you dont have much time, just read the source. it applies for almost all adaptation anime |
| bad english incoming sorry for that |
| No. |
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| Since this seems like an appropriate place to ask, is this anime not worth the time because it's a bad adaptation, or is it because the original source is terrible? I ask because I know this originates from Toaru's author, so I have sort of a high hope for it. |
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| I would say it is not worth it. |
ToG25thBaam said: Since this seems like an appropriate place to ask, is this anime not worth the time because it's a bad adaptation, or is it because the original source is terrible? I ask because I know this originates from Toaru's author, so I have sort of a high hope for it. A bit of both would be the most accurate answer. Though more needs to be said: The first 8 episodes of the anime have been devoted to adapting the first light novel only. Problem is that the first light novel is arguably the worst one in the entire series. The plot is very basic and only serves to introduce proof of concept of two idiots going around blowing up these gigantic war machines using only their heads and wits. Its limited in terms of the depth of characters and antagonists and the enemy objects are actually the simplest ones in the entire series. So needless to say, while novel readers are satisfied with the pace of the story, anime viewers are understandably starting to get impatient even though an entire novel hasn't been completely adapted yet. Then there's the actual adaptation of it into an anime. JC Staff has been flat out busy last season with Shokugeki no Souma, Prison School and that other ecchi anime (I forget its name). So the animation and character designs for this show have come off kinda flat. The first novel was exposition-heavy; and whoever was in charge of the script didn't necessarily do a good job adapting it for the anime (although there will always be people who complain about exposition). HO is a fanservice-heavy series in the first place but the anime staff has for some reason decided to forcibly include even more fanservice into each episode (don't know why though...) So the adaptation is less than ideal. At least the actual Objects look just fine. There's also criticisms about 'so-called' plotholes in the story but a lot of it is ridiculous "none of this possible IRL" BS. There's always give and take with the science in a sci-fi mecha anime. Also, the novel addresses quite a lot of questions left unanswered in the anime (another possible weakness of the adaptation). So will it get better after Episode 8 (Volume 1)? Absolutely. Whether it be character development/exploration, less terrible villains, gray morality, epic boss Objects to destroy, lots of MacGuyver magic from Qwenthur, great comedy moments and fanservice for those who care. |
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scytheavatar said: That's the main problem really, the whole premise of the series is that these two boys are the only ones who know how to take down objects without an object. Apparently no one else could think of sabotage as a strategy. Not exactly. They are the first people to be successful in doing so. And you make it sound like sabotage is the only way to destroy an object. The first time they they destroyed an Object was a fluke. So many things could have gone wrong and they were incredibly lucky things worked out for the better. There's no way that sabotage is the go to answer for very and all Objects they come across from now on. Hell, just the second one they faced had no sabotage but involved them exploiting the special characteristics of the Object in question. They will NOT regularly be in a position to sabotage the enemy Object. Might as well treat it as a one off. And Princess is a useless damsel that can't beat an enemy object one on one. Because the Objects in question are straight up more advanced and superior to hers as well as being perfectly suited to the environment they are in by design. Baby Magnum IS the inferior one so she will always be the underdog. That doesn't mean she's a damsel in distress needing to be rescued; she IS part of the team and is receiving support from her comrades. The only time she was truly a damsel in distress was in the second episode and even that was because she was acting as a decoy; and it was a one-off scenario. Heavy Object is not a mecha series, it's essentially Metal Gear Solid: the anime for kids. It IS a mecha series. Unconventional for sure in that the pilot isn't the MC but without a doubt a mecha series. Though comparisons to Metal Gear Solid are fair. And it's not something that to me translate well into the anime medium. Perhaps. It isn't the most ideal adaptation but I hope that over the course of its 24 ep run, it'll improve further. |
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| There are better airing anime, and better to pick another one instead if you watch only few anime ANy of these are better Subete ga F ni Naru: The Perfect Insider Young Black Jack (no need to watch any of the other black jack series) Utawarerumono: Itsuwari no Kamen Taimadou Gakuen 35 Shiken Shoutai Sakurako-san no Ashimoto ni wa Shitai ga Umatteiru One punch man (if you don't mind watching comedy) |
OHandS said: Whew I just realized that this is gonna have 24 episodes. Gave me a relief because based on what you said before this series will only adapt 1 volume in ~ 8 episodes, which is a fine pace imo (I loved Rokka's pace, at least the second half), but only if it's more than 1 cour.Perhaps. It isn't the most ideal adaptation but I hope that over the course of its 24 ep run, it'll improve further. OHandS said: First off, I wanna thank you for the in-depth reply, I understand a lot about the criticisms after reading your post.A bit of both would be the most accurate answer. Though more needs to be said: The first 8 episodes of the anime have been devoted to adapting the first light novel only. Problem is that the first light novel is arguably the worst one in the entire series. The plot is very basic and only serves to introduce proof of concept of two idiots going around blowing up these gigantic war machines using only their heads and wits. Its limited in terms of the depth of characters and antagonists and the enemy objects are actually the simplest ones in the entire series. So needless to say, while novel readers are satisfied with the pace of the story, anime viewers are understandably starting to get impatient even though an entire novel hasn't been completely adapted yet. Then there's the actual adaptation of it into an anime. JC Staff has been flat out busy last season with Shokugeki no Souma, Prison School and that other ecchi anime (I forget its name). So the animation and character designs for this show have come off kinda flat. The first novel was exposition-heavy; and whoever was in charge of the script didn't necessarily do a good job adapting it for the anime (although there will always be people who complain about exposition). HO is a fanservice-heavy series in the first place but the anime staff has for some reason decided to forcibly include even more fanservice into each episode (don't know why though...) So the adaptation is less than ideal. At least the actual Objects look just fine. There's also criticisms about 'so-called' plotholes in the story but a lot of it is ridiculous "none of this possible IRL" BS. There's always give and take with the science in a sci-fi mecha anime. Also, the novel addresses quite a lot of questions left unanswered in the anime (another possible weakness of the adaptation). So will it get better after Episode 8 (Volume 1)? Absolutely. Whether it be character development/exploration, less terrible villains, gray morality, epic boss Objects to destroy, lots of MacGuyver magic from Qwenthur, great comedy moments and fanservice for those who care. I usually don't mind slower paced story, nor do I mind average animation, so these elements wouldn't affect me as much. The exposition though, depends on how it transitioned to anime format, it could come off as overwhelming or just plain boring, though I also don't mind straight forward exposition like what was done in Rokka's first episode, as long as it doesn't take the whole episode, or do it in every other episodes. In my opinion, a slower pace would build a better / more stable foundation for a series in the long run, so this is imo a great decision if the publisher / studio decides to animate more of this series. Now I look forward to seeing those post volume 1 content animated. Of course, more comedy is great, I love them as long as they are not intrusive. |
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| I had zero expectations when I began watching this anime, and I don't have high standards. No, it's not worth. |
| It’s average at its best. Yes, it is fun every now and then, and that’s mainly because of the MCs constant bickering and attitude towards each situation they are in. So far, the plot is structured in short arcs that deal with different types of Objects; a “monster of the week” type of plot. There is little to none strategy involved in the way Objects are taken down by the MC, which is kinda disappointing. Also, there is a bit fanservice here and there almost in every episode, which comes as misplaced and unnecessary. Unless you’re a die-hard fan of Kazuma’s works, I would recommend you to spend you time in something else, something shorter. By the way, this is a given, but the best way for you to find out if this series is for you, or not, it’s by watching at least 5 episodes. After that, you should get a basic idea of what you’re getting into. 24 episodes is a lot to sit through, especially when you have little to no time to waste at all. Excluding Taimadou Gakuen 35 Shiken Shoutai from that list (poorly done adaptation; rushed as hell), most of those are pretty good options of new series (no sequels) to choose from that you could watch instead. |
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| I like Frolaytia a lot and her banter with the two main characters can be funny at times, but overall, I'd say it's not worth it. Heavy Object reminds me of last season's Classroom Crisis in that it's very wordy and too technical, which makes for a dull show. |
| Personally, I would say yes, it is worth it. The story intrigued me enough that I went and read the LN, and its about to really hit its stride, both in characters and action. It isn't all deus ex machina MCs win. Well... yeah, they win, but more often then not its luck. They always complain that they have to fight these things that literally, they don't die because they are overlooked as threats. They. Don't. Matter. That's the thought at least, they don't have super MC powers(in fact, at least in the novels they complain about people thinking they do quite often). Often they only survive/win cause the Princess is there to back them up and be the muscle behind their brains. And something that will be pointed out in the next arc, is that people over the world have seen them succeed, think they can replicate it, and then die. They are blamed for the modern "Clean" wars becoming bloody again. Hope that doesn't count as a spoiler, its just some back ground info. |
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| For what it has going for it, I say give it a shot. It's better than I expected coming from JC Staff and the characters are particularly likeable. Honestly, this show is a great breather from all the formulaic harem LN series coming out nowadays. Instead of your run-of-the-mill Issei/Ikki/Basara chasing or being chased by a demonic/magical/mecha-piloting "fuck me" female cast, you have a military team battling it out against these giant Objects. None of the characters in this group feel useless and their teamwork is great, especially with how they utilize their assets at hand (Qwenthur's Brains, Havia's bombs, Baby Magnum's Huge-ass Guns etc.) The fanservice is bearable and is something that can be ignored. Don't mind the absolute bullshit 6.7 score. Honestly, out of all the other similar shows airing this season, this one, personally, is the best one. (Or, at least, the most bearable, and at least it's entertaining) And have you heard the OP song? That alone is a huge plus for this series. |
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| Honestly, no. |
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| 90s buddy cop action, if you like that kind of camp humor, I would sort of recommend it, but JC's adaptation so far had been very poor (lost of exposition, more stuffed Fanservice and they cut down the humor). A lot of people complain about plot armor or plot holes, half of those are explained in the cut exposition, the other half is fixed by later novels (which the adaptation would never reach). People ask why only Quenser and Helvia are infiltrating, I point to the Unicorn squad and intelligence force that goes with them, people complain other side don't have such a infiltrating force, I point to the Valkarie divine retribution squad, people complain that clean war isn't a thing, I point to the northern anti-hunt district. Overall the so called "plotholes" people scream about are not plotholes (there are plotholes, but people don't notice the actual ones so what's the point), but JC would never adapt these so it is much better to read the novels (faster as well, JC stretch it way too long). |
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| Not bad, nor good. Just normal. |
| Definitely watch it if you have room in your schedule to watch a lot of shows, but if you have limited time to watch anime, there are definitely other, better shows to invest your time in. |
| I was planning on finishing this, it's JUST interesting enough to keep watching, but for some reason I thought it was going to be 1 cour, today looking at my list I found out it's 2 cour, now I'm not so sure. Hope it'll get better in the next couple of episodes |
| sure To Aru was the same. it didn't really become the fan favourite series until the sister arc and that was the 3rd volume of the novel. before that they had the set-up first novel and the nearly complete unnecessary True Blood arc (I mean except for the heroin in that novel coming in later novel what was the point?) |
| It is worth watching. It's a good fun all around. Dont listen to haters and naysayers who are either sour that "dis iz not Goondamn" or they are just jelly that these guys can nuke huge war machines on foot without the need of another huge war machine. Just like Snake used to do all the time in MGS. Who needs mechs when you have C4, mines, grenades, rocket launchers, but most of all brain. |
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thepath said: There are better airing anime, and better to pick another one instead if you watch only few anime ANy of these are better Subete ga F ni Naru: The Perfect Insider Young Black Jack (no need to watch any of the other black jack series) Utawarerumono: Itsuwari no Kamen Taimadou Gakuen 35 Shiken Shoutai Sakurako-san no Ashimoto ni wa Shitai ga Umatteiru One punch man (if you don't mind watching comedy) Heavy Object is worth it, if you like the genre. Perfect Insider and Sakurako-san are pretty boring and not worth the time. There are better mysteries out there. |
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zero-r said: It’s average at its best. Yes, it is fun every now and then, and that’s mainly because of the MCs constant bickering and attitude towards each situation they are in. So far, the plot is structured in short arcs that deal with different types of Objects; a “monster of the week” type of plot. There is little to none strategy involved in the way Objects are taken down by the MC, which is kinda disappointing. Also, there is a bit fanservice here and there almost in every episode, which comes as misplaced and unnecessary. Unless you’re a die-hard fan of Kazuma’s works, I would recommend you to spend you time in something else, something shorter. By the way, this is a given, but the best way for you to find out if this series is for you, or not, it’s by watching at least 5 episodes. After that, you should get a basic idea of what you’re getting into. 24 episodes is a lot to sit through, especially when you have little to no time to waste at all. Excluding Taimadou Gakuen 35 Shiken Shoutai from that list (poorly done adaptation; rushed as hell), most of those are pretty good options of new series (no sequels) to choose from that you could watch instead. Taimadou Gakuen did not feel rushed to me. Maybe because I'm an anime only watcher. Even if it is rushed and poorly adapted, it still more entertaining and better than many other shows. Characters, action etc keeps me entertained Heavy Object is so boring. Boring character, boring action and story. It is probably the most boring show out of the shows I'm watching. The cute blond girl is the only reason I did not drop this show yet. |
| If your gonna watch this show weekly I say it's worth it. But if you plan on watching it all at once it might not enjoy it as much. |
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| So far... no. The plot is horrendously written, the characters are pretty annoying and the anime original fanservice is unbelievably out of place. But at least the action is kind of unorthodox so if you turn your brain off it might be considered amusing... at least a little bit |
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HaXXspetten said: So far... no. The plot is horrendously written, the characters are pretty annoying and the anime original fanservice is unbelievably out of place. But at least the action is kind of unorthodox so if you turn your brain off it might be considered amusing... at least a little bit Agree with this post. The main two guy characters are especially cringey and annoying. Cant believe JC Staff is adapting this crap and not Index. Fucking scum. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: Shuhan said: Agree with this post. The main two guy characters are especially cringey and annoying. Cant believe JC Staff is adapting this crap and not Index. Fucking scum. Typical index-fags whining as usual. HO is not really for everyone and it can be a hit or miss with people but it's not crap just because you people don't like it or have different taste. Come up with a not-so-subjective and biased reason about whether the anime is worth it or not.......or go cry a river over index somewhere else. I gave a reason, all the characters are shit and the plot on top of it is dumb and incoherent. Typical Heavy Object fans with their shit taste. |
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| ^ Guys, you know everything is subjective right? Calling something "not an actual argument" because it's subjective is just dumb Though that aside, Index has nothing to do with this. You could have said that for literally any season in the last few years in that case |
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| I don't know why the Index fans are angry. This is practically the same show with different weapons. -MC (Blonde guy whose name no translator can agree on) is constantly thrown in unfortunate situations. -MC has "no power". An ordinary high school boy (except he's a student in the military in this case.) -MC constantly being shonen heroish, defending helpless girls from powerful enemies. -MC constantly fighting with enemies that he has an extremely low chance of defeating, yet somehow winning anyway. -Ever growing list of girls added to the harem every arc or so, all falling for the MC, and with lots of fanservice. -Harem girls getting jealous of each other and putting MC in danger. -MC regularly doing perverted stuff to harem girls, usually by accident. Frankly the list of similarities just goes on and on. There's even a spinoff volume focusing on a heroine instead of the male MC. Not that it's a bad thing. The author has clearly found a formula for writing shonen stories that works, and I'm enjoying every moment of it. |
| To tell you the truth. Don't listen to anyone who bashes or heavily criticize this anime. Honestly this anime has a lot of good and bad scenes. So, basically you will be on a rollercoaster lol. And that is all.. Try a few of these episodes on your spare time, you will be the judge to continue watching it or not. But, if you decide to not watch it; don't become a basher/negative person who wants to spread his anger/pain of his sucky life to others on the web :) My Opinion: This show entertains me and cracks me up at some points so far |
| I don't understand the hate. I think it's a great show with fun characters and fairly exciting situations. It gets better as it goes on too. |
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| It has a little girl and moe in it so no. |
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ElectricRed said: To tell you the truth. Don't listen to anyone who bashes or heavily criticize this anime. Honestly this anime has a lot of good and bad scenes. So, basically you will be on a rollercoaster lol. And that is all.. Try a few of these episodes on your spare time, you will be the judge to continue watching it or not. But, if you decide to not watch it; don't become a basher/negative person who wants to spread his anger/pain of his sucky life to others on the web :) My Opinion: This show entertains me and cracks me up at some points so far This. The show is pretty bad, there's no denying that, but I found it has become the anime this season I most look forward to each week, and that tells you something. |
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