| [Anyone can post anything and hopefully you'll get a reply from a person who knows the answer to your question.] My questions are simple. 1. Why isn't Gohan as strong as his Elder Kai potential? 2. In Dragon Ball Super, do Goten (11yo) and Trunks (12) years look like the age they should look and not the same of (6/7yo) 3. Emporer Pilaf/May/Shuu ... what's their story?.. ... For Gohan, he doesn't look like he could go Super Saiyan 2 anymore (at least I don't see spikier hair or electricity running through him) or worse he's not going Elder Kai potential anymore. Did his lack of training really affect his strength that much? And for Goten and Trunks, why do they still look like 6 and 7 year old in Battle of Gods when it's been 5 years later. 'Cause that's a dumb mistake from the creator which I really hope he fixed in Dragon Ball Super. For Emporer Pilaf and his gang. I know them a little from Dragon Ball, but I stopped at episode 56. I don't remember ever seeing them in DBZ. But I do remember them in GT and how they wished themselves young by accident ... but wasn't GT said to NOT be cannon? What's up with that? |
waalex11Jul 26, 2016 5:03 PM
| Bump. |
| Awesome, thanks. |
mootjuh said: Oh ya..WEll they're half human anyways, so there could be variation between half breeds like Gohan being born with a tail while Goten and Trunks didn't. |
| So Goten and Trunks still haven't gotten their growth spurt like Gohan when he was a teen. There are still no legit answers to why Gohan can't go Elder Kai Potential anymore. I guess technically he simply needs to train hard enough to get it back? So ... which chapter/episode of Dragon Ball did Emporer Pilaf and his gang wish for youth and turned into kids? I've watched the latest reviews of the Dragon Ball Super anime but. Anyone has more legit answers? Or we'll have to wait for a new interview with Akira Toriyama. Heck he hasn't even brought back Launch because he forgot about her. Haha. |
| Seriously does anyone not have an answer? |
waalex11 said: So Goten and Trunks still haven't gotten their growth spurt like Gohan when he was a teen. Goku in Dragon Ball was always a child until the timeskip when he returns for the 23rd WMAT and everyone is confused at why he's so tall. Gohan was a different case because he spent a whole day in the RoSaT which was a year in there. There are still no legit answers to why Gohan can't go Elder Kai Potential anymore. I guess technically he simply needs to train hard enough to get it back? There are no concrete answers, only theory; because Gohan had not trained for those 5 years post-Buu Saga, his body has debilitated and can't sustain that massive ki, as seen here.So ... which chapter/episode of Dragon Ball did Emporer Pilaf and his gang wish for youth and turned into kids? It's not shown, but mentioned in Battle of Gods:  Heck he hasn't even brought back Launch because he forgot about her. Haha. Well, it's not like Launch matters anymore, right? |
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| @ziggy_Z 1. But they're not half breeds or partial breeds. They're not full Saiyan. Because Teen Gohan at 10 before the Hyperbolic Time Chamber still had his growth spurt. I still feel Toriyama either fucked up or wants to keep them short with that design for a little while longer. 2. But the movie doesn't show that even tho it's canon for the most part (excluding filler) so which is legit? Both. Man Toriyama has a lot of explaining to do. It makes sense tho if you think about it like that. But it still sucks. Damn Gohan... I wish he'd train again. But I feel Toriyama is keeping Gohan a non-fighter who only wants to enjoy a peaceful life with Videl and Pan now. All that build up of Gohan's best moment just to end in peace with not being at his best fighting shape anymore... Thats kinda sad. 3. Oh ok. 4. Sure but. It'd be nice to see her one more time at least. |
waalex11 said: Yeah, fair enough. It is a plot-hole now that I think about it, because the manga has already shown us what 14 year old (the age of Present Trunks right now) Trunks looks like via Future Trunks' flashback, and he looks like a normal teenager; even present Goten is older than Android Saga Gohan. @ziggy_Z 1. But they're not half breeds or partial breeds. They're not full Saiyan. Because Teen Gohan at 10 before the Hyperbolic Time Chamber still had his growth spurt. I still feel Toriyama either fucked up or wants to keep them short with that design for a little while longer. 2. But the movie doesn't show that even tho it's canon for the most part (excluding filler) so which is legit? Both. Man Toriyama has a lot of explaining to do. The DBS anime retconned the movie so now BoG & RoF are as non-canon as the other 13 movies. It makes sense tho if you think about it like that. But it still sucks. Damn Gohan... I wish he'd train again. But I feel Toriyama is keeping Gohan a non-fighter who only wants to enjoy a peaceful life with Videl and Pan now. All that build up of Gohan's best moment just to end in peace with not being at his best fighting shape anymore... Thats kinda sad. And Gohan always wanted to be a scholar, people can argue semantics saying he was brainwashed by Chichi that's why he wanted to study, but the truth is he not only states he wants to be a great scholar, but he also doesn't enjoy fighting like his father. So sure, one of the greatest moments of DBZ (of all anime, actually) was him unleashing his true power, but at the end of the day, Toriyama did right with him. |
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| Aw wtf so they're drawn properly their age in the manga... That sucks. And the movies being uncannon... Wow ok. Oh well. Thanks for the info! |
waalex11 said: No no no, the manga showed Future Trunks looking normal when we got his flashback, present Trunks & Goten look like kids everywhereAw wtf so they're drawn properly their age in the manga... That sucks. And the movies being uncannon... Wow ok. Oh well. Thanks for the info! |
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ziggy_Z said: waalex11 said: No no no, the manga showed Future Trunks looking normal when we got his flashback, present Trunks & Goten look like kids everywhereAw wtf so they're drawn properly their age in the manga... That sucks. And the movies being uncannon... Wow ok. Oh well. Thanks for the info! ziggy_Z said: Oh ok, right. Read too quickly.waalex11 said: No no no, the manga showed Future Trunks looking normal when we got his flashback, present Trunks & Goten look like kids everywhereAw wtf so they're drawn properly their age in the manga... That sucks. And the movies being uncannon... Wow ok. Oh well. Thanks for the info! |
waalex11Aug 3, 2016 10:55 PM
geearf said: waalex11 said: [Anyone can post anything and hopefully you'll get a reply from a person who knows the answer to your question.] My questions are simple. 1. Why isn't Gohan as strong as his Elder Kai potential? 2. In Dragon Ball Super, do Goten (11yo) and Trunks (12) years look like the age they should look and not the same of (6/7yo) 3. Emporer Pilaf/May/Shuu ... what's their story?.. 1- It's a stupid plot device, Gohan was too strong in that form for anyone to be a threat... I wonder if Toryama regretted making him that strong... It's the same in BoG, Gohan became a joke. 2- Based on Jaco, sayans stay in their young form for very long and then pouf become adults. Remember Goku in the early DB stage, he was the same till his combat against Piccolo Jr. It would make sense than Goten would go through the same (now about Gohan..? wel...) 3- from wiki: "Before the events of the movie Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, Pilaf and his gang gathered all the Dragon Balls themselves and wished for youth, but Shenron made them a little too young" Ok I would like to correct, in dragon ball emperor pilaf and his team wished for eternal youth and that's when they became kid. The events of ROF are 9 months after Buu saga so they coud possibly be 1 year older. As for Gohan being weak, its just a stupid plot device. Gohan stated that he is is not training but he might be able to turn ssj. Note: He said might. The impression they use is that since Gohan hasn't been training so his body has forgotten to awake Mystic form or even super saiyan 2 which is bullshit, I mean how can u forget in just 9 months |
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