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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- So we meet Tachikoma's father. It was a good episode, not great, but good. Btw, when Tachikoma opened the hatch to one of the others, there was no AI chip in there, what did that mean? |
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aero said: THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- So we meet Tachikoma's father. It was a good episode, not great, but good. Btw, when Tachikoma opened the hatch to one of the others, there was no AI chip in there, what did that mean? As shown in that particular scene, it revealed that their AI is not built in their unit. They were surprised to see that their brains were "empty", so to speak. As stated by their creator he had the Tachikomas' AI built into the joint Japanese and AE satellite as per the request of the Major. Another thing, the scene where the fugitive scientist and the Tachikoma talking was very poignant. you could see in them a father caressing his child and a child relishing the affection given by a father. It was touching and I was a bit pissed off by the Major's insensitivity. Batou was much more considerate saying "maybe we should bring them along to visit him from time to time". Hope this helps. |
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| 12/10 My favourite part of the GITS tale so far, without doubt. While the Tachikoma aren't exactly brilliant philosophers/sociologists, their zest for it, and for that matter everything, is wonderful. |
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| Man, those Tachikomas sure can come up with some interesting conversations. Inquisitive little things. |
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| aw crap, now I'm crying... |
| Wow ... O_O who would have thought the Tachikoma's would get an episode, but LOL at the meeting with the creator xD I can just imagine him going "Tachikoma I am your father" xD |
The scene with the Tachikoma and "father" was very touching. Batou is HOT!! The Major can be a bit cold-hearted sometimes. |
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| Major is so mean :\ |
| ^SHE IS JUST INCREDIBLE MATH! Those Tachikomas are adorable! |
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Drgentile777 said: Man, those Tachikomas sure can come up with some interesting conversations. Inquisitive little things. Yeah, even though they were just talking for minutes straight, I was very interested in the dialogue :P I felt that this was, yet again, another great episode. I also think it is among one of the better episode (not the best IMO), and I agree that scene with Tachikoma and the 'father' at the end was touching. |
| A very touching episode indeed, those Tachikomas are full of humanity.. |
| The Tachikomas conversations definitely gave me a better insight on everything that has been going on with the Individual Eleven, especially taking into account their pertinent questions and observations. I must admit though that this episode was extremely hard to follow, so much consecutive dialogue, I kept missing the subs and found myself going back a few seconds several times. |
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| interesting episodes. i wonder if they will still have a memory of the creator somewhere on the net as he suggested. why you mean Major :( glad batou might bring a tachikoma to Asuda from time to time. kinda sucks he'll be getting some jail time or will work at their center forever. still it's the same as Section 9. they're probably stuck their for good. well except for Togusa(maybe) such a touching story, the music is sooo sad too :( |
| A very sweet episode. Kind of sad how they portrayed the father caressing his child. |
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| I was totally stunned by this episode! I thought it was so sad for the creator of the Tachikomas not to be able to choose his own way of living. Instead being stuck forever to work for section 9? all his life. And as said. The ending was very touching. Sad and beautiful! I can only imagine his sorrow. It's not like he did anything bad.. besides blowing up parts of a building.. He just wanted freedom where he could work with what he wanted for a living with people actually praising him for what he does! ( Was it just me or was this episodes' quality much better then the previous ones?)  |
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| I feel so bad for the scientist T_T. He is so brilliant yet he gets no say in his projects. I know that this is the price you pay for having the government fund your research but still. I feels like the government is stealing from him. Not even letting him put some memory into the Tochikoma AI D=. |
 "I like to expose what people hide. I'm an intellectual rapist." - Furudo Erika |
| It was interesting to learn more about Tachikomas. That scientist was sure brilliant to create something like that. Great episode in general. |
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| Tachikoma is the greatest machine ever made. Enough said. |
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| Great episode the Tachikoma's make this show worth watching... It was nice to have some slight backstory on the creator of the Tachikoma's and how their new system works, was interesting to know they're all linked to that satellite! Great episode, it's sad not all of the episodes are like this! |
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| I liked this episode, poor scientist... :[ |
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| Finally a Tachikoma episode. I'm a big fan of Tachikoma's and so this episode made my day. That conversation between Tachikoma and the father was very touching. It's good to know that their AI is stored elsewhere. Now even if they are completely destroyed in combat they won't die. Amazing Tachikoma episode 5/5. |
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| Another great episode! The Tachikomas are definitely the highlight of the show for me. They are a brilliant mix of individuality. The encounter with the "father" was particularly touching and heart-breaking. Funny to find that these lil' fellows are more human than the Major. They are soo cute XD |
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| God damn, show not tell! It felt like the characters were the creator's mouthpiece. |
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| To see that the Tachikomas were able to think spatially and spiritually, it's scary to think that AIs can outwit even humans ourselves in philosophy and understanding. |
| "If you reject me, I'll blast a hole in you!" Kanzaki H. Aria Just kidding.  |
| This episode was kinda sad. To see that scientist that only wanted to work freely so he could get some recognition... There was a lot of devellopement on tachikoma. Didn't thought their AI would be floating in the space :D Also, why was it writen NSA on the satelite? Are they really everywhere?? xD |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| Very sad towards the end. What people fear most is leaving this world without making a name for themselves. Felt slightly bad for the scientist in this respect. Someone so passionate about their work, AIs especially, probably would view the Tachikomas as his children. The Tachikomas philosophizing is fascinating to watch and really serves to bring their humanity out, despite how technical they are about it. Love this series for that. |
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| 5/5 One of the best episodes unrelated to the main theme. So deep and reasoned the plot, the Tachikoma are fantastic characters, I reconfirm. Narrative that exposes their arguments and makes me think. Drawings and discrete animations. |
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| The whole "our IA is somewhere" remember me a dream that Carl Jung had, the one that, when he was sick, sees himself as a man who meditates in the sky, a body that transcends time and serves as a source to the many lives he had on earth. I am sure that I will look for philosophers cited in this episode. And of course, the final scene was extremely touching, idk just brings me various feelings haha... |
| man the tochikomas have some thought provoking conversations. for a bit there i thought they had developed ghosts, which would have been interesting. Felt sorry for the tochikomas' "father". they won't even let the tochikomas remember him. |
| Woooh! Tachikoma episode. Really sad finish though, with their father essentially saying goodbye and giving his child affection ;__; |
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| A bit of a slow one (don't think we needed to hear the tachikomas go on that long about the nature of their individuality) but still very good sentimental stuff. |
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| First half was kinda boring but the second one was good. I feel sorry for the guy =/ |
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| They really should spell check the episode title screen. "Inside the Tachikoma Hanger..." hanger or hangar? |
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| This is really annoying, some DIV episodes are on par with the main arc episodes, but also some other DIV episodes lower the overall quality of the show. Average Episode. |
| Tachikomas are so damn unrealistic. |
| Average episode, I got bored at times. |
| Tachikoma(s) episode! I love Tachikoma(s) Need more! I don't think I would ever want GitS without Tachikoma(s) They're so cute xD Awww the end was kinda sad :( |
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| Fantastic stuff. I actually felt quite sad watching the ending scene... The Tachikoma always have fantastic conversations. <3 |
| I'm becoming less annoyed with the Tachikomas, and genuinely enjoyed their spotlight for this episode. What I found great was that the Tachikomas intertwined the cases of the Laughing Man and Individual Eleven with their come to understanding of how spirit/ghost is separate or inseparable in relation to themselves. The whole dialogue that unfolded was quite compelling. Feel bad for the Scientist... I actually think he should had succeeded in leaving the country. |
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| 5/5 Tachikoma's are great. to be perfectly honest i really dislike the insensitive side of motoko, makes me wish that the scientist succeed in leaving the country. i feel like the scientist is a slave to the government just because they funded his research. i know it's part of their deal but i feel like it's so unfair for the scientist, not only that he gets no recognition for his work but to add insult to injury, he also isn't allowed to put a memory of him to the tachikoma's, which is practically his child and the fruit of his passion for his work. well the major isn't really at fault either since she can't do much about the situation, but when she insist to remove the scientist memories from the tachikoma's that's where she fail. |
Shoryu said: Feel bad for the Scientist... I actually think he should had succeeded in leaving the country. He was being selfish. His work belongs to government, and his advancements in science should be dedicated to improving his Nation and people. It doesn't matter if you are "recognized" by mass media etc as much as you do what you can for your own volk. The scientist was wrong. Major nailed it, as hard to grasp as it is. The scientists, Motoko, Aramaki, ... all belong to government. If for any reason government decides to remove them, they will get killed immediately as how it happened in the previous season. They are government tools. Motoko's case is even more severe, that's why she seems cynical here. If government were ever to dissolve S9, Togusa and co would simply return to their previous lives, but because Motoko's body belongs to government, she should renounce to her body and go back to being a regular android, which probably is a lot less comfortable and will make not attach her mind with her body, at least as well as it is with her regular S9 body. It is in a way sad, but understandable. nice ep btw |
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| There father got arrested damn Major is cold, Batou still has a little heart left. |
| Did he really have to get arrested? D: Sigh. |
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| This made me dislike the Major a bit. She acted very cold-hearted without any empathy for the father. She takes away someone's sentimental feelings towards his "projects". The Major handles without any emotions, only rationality (that is one of her flaws but also a strong point at the same time). |
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| This episode was so fucking boring it was maddening to watch |
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