| Just curious that how "difficult" is using Magic Cannon Sword. From what I saw in Episode 4, the user just have to charge few times and it seems it charged up almost instant, other than that, it is like normal sword fighting. Also, if this "cannon" is so strong, why don't all of the people use it, they could have stand at long ranged while having tanker stand in front. This way, they would have instant wipe out the armies of beetle. Lastly, are these weapons exclusively made for certain people? I also saw that people using dual wield the same as Lecty in this episode. But then, Lecty is famous because of their family's dual wield (weapon?/style?). This "famous", is it because of their weapon specially made or their fighting style? If people really want to protect themselves, people could have just replicate this specially made sword or teaching their family traditional fighting style. Are they really trying to survive? |
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| disclaimer: I have not read any novels, manga or anything else apart from 5 episodes of this anime. 1) Apparently, the mages are rather poorly trained. I think that is related to the fact all of them are young: due to the ongoing war with the bugs, most mages don't survive long enough to become awesome combat instructors. 2) Lecty's family dual sword style is apparently a "difficult but awesome" style: you have to put in a lot of effort to master it, but once you do - you're a powerful melee combatant. Most mages don't get that much training, and use simpler fighting styles that become useful with less training. It might also be that it is more difficult than awesome, and if you're not a part of a tradition that tries to keep the style for future generations, you'll find other "difficult but awesome" fighting styles more attractive. Maybe dual swords are really good against human opponents in the tournaments, but are no better than other styles against the bugs. 3) Magic Cannon Sword isn't that difficult, but the redhead girl is really bad at things that it requires. It is a flexible style that allows one to swing a sword at close range or shoot beams at long range as the situation requires. So, it requires a good amount of tactical awareness, something the redhead lacks completely. Learning to swing a sword and shoot beams is also harder than just learning to swing swords or to shoot beams. 4) Apparently, their fighting tactics uses different people. Long-range heavy hitters (like the goddess, or the fighting style MC recommended to the redhead), close-combat specialists like the Lecty to protect them, and flexible mid-range combatants like the MC and the redhead. Maybe some other types - there was quite a bunch of different people in MC's old fireteam. 5) Magical weapons seem expensive, but reproducible. MC and the redhead seem to use the same fighting style and very similar weapons. 6) Mages aptitude towards different styles differs. The redhead might become really good at sword beams, but most other mages are likely to die of magic exhaustion in a few seconds of long-range combat. |
flannan said: disclaimer: I have not read any novels, manga or anything else apart from 5 episodes of this anime. 1) Apparently, the mages are rather poorly trained. I think that is related to the fact all of them are young: due to the ongoing war with the bugs, most mages don't survive long enough to become awesome combat instructors. 2) Lecty's family dual sword style is apparently a "difficult but awesome" style: you have to put in a lot of effort to master it, but once you do - you're a powerful melee combatant. Most mages don't get that much training, and use simpler fighting styles that become useful with less training. It might also be that it is more difficult than awesome, and if you're not a part of a tradition that tries to keep the style for future generations, you'll find other "difficult but awesome" fighting styles more attractive. Maybe dual swords are really good against human opponents in the tournaments, but are no better than other styles against the bugs. 3) Magic Cannon Sword isn't that difficult, but the redhead girl is really bad at things that it requires. It is a flexible style that allows one to swing a sword at close range or shoot beams at long range as the situation requires. So, it requires a good amount of tactical awareness, something the redhead lacks completely. Learning to swing a sword and shoot beams is also harder than just learning to swing swords or to shoot beams. 4) Apparently, their fighting tactics uses different people. Long-range heavy hitters (like the goddess, or the fighting style MC recommended to the redhead), close-combat specialists like the Lecty to protect them, and flexible mid-range combatants like the MC and the redhead. Maybe some other types - there was quite a bunch of different people in MC's old fireteam. 5) Magical weapons seem expensive, but reproducible. MC and the redhead seem to use the same fighting style and very similar weapons. 6) Mages aptitude towards different styles differs. The redhead might become really good at sword beams, but most other mages are likely to die of magic exhaustion in a few seconds of long-range combat. I'm not trying to argue but I found it contradicting regarding the story itself, not your points. 1) This could be true 2) How can one can't learn this style if they are truly trained since young age? Logic? Also I doubt its just effective against Human as this style seem to be able to move faster. Which mean easily dodge attack from beetle than 2-handed. 3) From latest episode, I doubt this weapon require "tactical awareness", the male MC claims to teach her the something-blaster skill, But male MC just press the button few time and the powerful beam is then shot out without telling anything else. As we see from episode one, the fighting scene of male MC, he just simply swing at the beetle and they explode. How hard is it to simply swing a sword? LOL, logic? And how is shooting a beam hard if they stand at long distance while having someone tanking in front(during the fight with beetle)? This is just stupid. 4) So every beetle war, they only chose a team of 3 to fight? Bravo tactics ! I don't actually see the difficult to defense against the beetle if like you say. If hundred of tanker in front and hundred of magic cannon at the back. 1 cannon beam instant wipe an beetle army then hundred of magic cannon is able instantly make the beetle extinct. Don't tell me this is impossible as we see the introduction scene and episode 1 fighting scene. As it is unlikely a school only less than 50 people. 5) So they chose to save the money instead of choosing to survive? good Logic there i can see. 6) I assumed this is related to stamina. Stamina can be trained, it is not born with. This should not be a problem if each stamina-trained fighter just shoot AT MOST 1 beam. |
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aLotQuestion said: 2) Lecty did learn her style from a young age. Most other Sky Wizards didn't. Hence, they use simpler stuff. Any melee style for aerial combat would include moving faster than usual. Because if you don't, the enemies will just fly right to the vulnerable long-range shooters. 3) Weapons don't require tactical awareness to fire them. That would be crazy. They require tactical awareness to hit the enemy, to fire them at just the right moment, to not get stuck without any magic right as a bunch of beetles rush you... 4) A typical fight with bugs is 1 fireteam on patrol vs a small swarm of bugs. Fire teams vary in size, but known fireteams are 3-6 people. It is about the right number to maintain maximum efficiency. 5) Every Sky Wizard has a weapon of his/her choice. No problems here. Do you really think an army consisting entirely of magic cannon swordsmen would be more effective than army of varied unit types? It won't, because most Sky Wizards don't make good magic cannon swordsmen. 6) There is no indication that magic reserve is related to stamina. Maybe magic depletion is like poisoning, or running out of oxygen. And no indication it can be trained all that much. Well, we actually don't know how far training can get you in this anime. Probably not that far, given how Sky Wizards die a lot. aLotQuestion said: This should not be a problem if each stamina-trained fighter just shoot AT MOST 1 beam. Actually, this will be a huge problem. As things are now, Sky Wizards are at advantage in long-ranged combat over the bugs. If Sky Wizards' firepower were so limited, but could use so-called "human-wave tactics" to easily defeat them. The sword beam in episode 5 is something that has to be used cleverly. Or by most elite troops who can use it a lot more often. Overall, there seem to be more energy-efficient ways of shooting magic at bugs. |
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