My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected (light novel)
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Th3z4cK said: snarlmane said: Also, in no way am I trying to justify Haruno, I’m just trying to show why she’s doing what she’s doing: she sees that our main trio is tiptoeing around one another and not addressing the “we have romantic feelings for one another” issue. If Hachiman and Yukino truly desire something genuine, then they need to address it. She’s basically putting their relationship to the test. Haruno has always been willing to play the bad guy in order to get results. This ^ haruno is a bitch but she is tryng too help the trio, they need to talk too each other if they want a genuine relationship yui have to confess to hachiman get rejected accept it and move forward hachiman have to accept the confession ( remember s1 he avoid that ) and expose his true feelings towards her( she is only a friend a good one ) and hurt her in the process hachiman and yuki need to confess their love result no lies, no fake smile, a genuine friendship sry for bad english ^ this. This is exactly what I was going to say. In defense of Haruno, (which I think should not have acted that way, it was childish) Haruno is just trying to eliminate what is superficial to Yukino because Haruno probably experienced losing friends in her (Haruno) past because of her (Haruno) social status and what she (Haruno) will eventually become. She's trying to force two things into the service club. One is to break it apart because Yukino is attached to a superficial thing, or two make the trio realize their feelings and such as stated in the above quotes. On another note, Hachiman does not know anyone's feelings towards him. If he starts to think about it, he shrugs it off. That's his character. Lastly, someone else stated it, but I think the OP is full of freaking spoilers and crap. First of all, apparently in the lyrics it said about "finding something genuine." Then on the end of the OP is the scene where Yukino and Yui walk separate ways. I fear that that is how the anime will end. Whoever called it first, I called it with you! For a Season 3, I feel like it is possible. The series seems to be popular in Japan. |
zeron824Jun 19, 2015 7:34 AM
| "The past makes you wanna die out of regret, and the future makes you depressed out of anxiety, so by elimination, the present is likely the happiest time." - Hikigaya Hachiman KYAAAAA my favorite episode this season |
| AND WHOA! I forgot to say one more thing! If you check out Yui and Yukino's apron, Yui's apron is what Hachiman and Yukino gave her. And Yukino's apron is what she bought as well during her shopping with Hachiman in S1. (Of course it's not a carbon copy, the two companies are diff.) Just a nice, quick enlightening info. ;) |
zeron824 said: Th3z4cK said: This ^ haruno is a bitch but she is tryng too help the trio, they need to talk too each other if they want a genuine relationship yui have to confess to hachiman get rejected accept it and move forward hachiman have to accept the confession ( remember s1 he avoid that ) and expose his true feelings towards her( she is only a friend a good one ) and hurt her in the process hachiman and yuki need to confess their love result no lies, no fake smile, a genuine friendship sry for bad english ^ this. This is exactly what I was going to say. In defense of Haruno, (which I think should not have acted that way, it was childish) Haruno is just trying to eliminate what is superficial to Yukino because Haruno probably experienced losing friends in her (Haruno) past because of her (Haruno) social status and what she (Haruno) will eventually become. She's trying to force two things into the service club. One is to break it apart because Yukino is attached to a superficial thing, or two make the trio realize their feelings and such as stated in the above quotes. On another note, Hachiman does not know anyone's feelings towards him. If he starts to think about it, he shrugs it off. That's his character. Lastly, someone else stated it, but I think the OP is full of freaking spoilers and crap. First of all, apparently in the lyrics it said about "finding something genuine." Then on the end of the OP is the scene where Yukino and Yui walk separate ways. I fear that that is how the anime will end. Whoever called it first, I called it with you! For a Season 3, I feel like it is possible. The series seems to be popular in Japan. Actually the OP lyrics were re-translated to say genuine after the genuine episode. Also, I see why there's a lot of hate for Haruno right now but it might be a tad unjustified. If you go back to where Hayama and 8man talk about Haruno in episode 3, you see Hayama explain Haruno's character. She doesn't mess with people she's not interested in. She either annoys the people she likes or destroys the people she doesn't like. Fast forward to this episode and Haruno clearly states that she doesn't like the Yukino of the present, hence her attempts of destruction. However, she is still her sister and loves her so I think there is a part of her that is trying to fix the trio. How she is doing that I am not sure. I think her plan is flawed because of her character and how she goes about trying to fix her sister's problems but she isn't as mature as sensei. Sensei would drop hints, knowing that the issue should be resolved by party that bears the problem. Haruno doesn't see it that way, so she is getting involved in a seemingly annoying manner. Overall, I think Haruno is going to be the one that makes 8man realize this love triangle because of her forcefulness. Her methods are arguable, but she definitely seems to be the one that is helping 8man see through their friendship like he said at the end of the episode. |
zeron824 said: AND WHOA! I forgot to say one more thing! If you check out Yui and Yukino's apron, Yui's apron is what Hachiman and Yukino gave her. And Yukino's apron is what she bought as well during her shopping with Hachiman in S1. (Of course it's not a carbon copy, the two companies are diff.) Just a nice, quick enlightening info. ;) Goes to show how much detail the studio has put in this season And woohooo if theres hope i wont give up on an s3 |
| Enjoyable, tensions rising and a lot of unspoken emotions |
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| Hnnnnngg my heart... Iroha is too adorable. Komachi = Coma cheese :P |
| Just re-watched the episode with subs Haruno says what Yukino has for 8man is more sinister than just trust. She might be referring to being dependent on others. Honestly i don't know where she depended on Haruno in the past. Based on her relationship with her sister and her conversations with 8man about her family and sister it rather looks like she's the reason for Yukino's bad relationship with her family. The only person i can think of is her father who allowed her to live alone. Also i think she envy Yukino for thinking to choose something for herself(going for liberal arts- i am mentioning this because i think in volume 2 or 3 she states that she is going for sciences , also her mother stating she is worried after knowing her path that her family was plying a big part on her academic career). Haruno herself wonders if something genuine really exist. No matter how many smiley faces she puts on deep down she is tired of her family expectations of her as well. It seems that she is also a broken person on the inside , the only difference is she puts on a facade which Yukino can't. She may want to help Yukino but the way she is doing it makes her the bad guy. About her conversation with the trio. She gets that Hachiman , Yukino and specifically Yui are not being genuine about their feelings. Yui is hiding her obvious feelings for 8man and 8man is also avoiding that matter even after being aware about her feelings for him. I think she also notices that Yukino and 8man are trying to deny the the attention they give to one another(at least in front of other- 8man's monologue about not to get flustered.). Also she gets angry because she thought 8man won't act like Hayama and Herself specially after hearing that he wants something genuine.To be honest she did what 8man had to do in case of Sagami and Tobe/Ebina case. Just like the title says he is failing to figure what genuine is and what he wants from Yukino and Yui. Based on the synopsis in next episode we will get a conversation between the Yukinoshita sisters which will give the needed developement to Yukino in understanding what she actually desires from Yui and Hachiman. Yui has a high chance of confessing(rather she will confess) and 8man's conclusion to his thinking of finding something genuine will make him realise what he desires. After confirming what each of them desire they will take their first step towards their each respective answer. The end pairing has not confirmed yet but i think Yukino has very high chance of winning or a friendship end(very unlikely after the development in previous episodes/volumes) or a massive cliffhanger ;) Well as always the LN will provide more details to think about the characters and their reasons. Cant wait for 24/6 ;) |
| Wow I need to use that thing he said about the present being the happiest time as a quote in my sig xD That was such a good episode I have been on the Hiki x Iroha for a while but idk I would really like to see him with Yukino or Yui inb4 he picks Haruno and every1 cries Wonder whats gonna happen next episode |
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| So Haruno is trying to break the status quo. Or at least it seems that way and she even got her mother involved which might not have been a good idea. But Seeing Haruno's personality it's exactly what she wants, trying to create chaos and make things interesting. |
| The past makes you want to die out of regret and the future makes you depressed out of anxiety, so by elimination the present is likely the happiest time. I laughed so hard at that |
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| guess the reason hikigaya asked yui about free time will be for something not datey, but she'll likely still think of it as a date xD wondered for a second if the love of iroha for hayato is only a facade to try to make hachiman jealous of him, or if she's only keeping hachiman as a backup in case she definitely fails with hayato ..the club is turning in a love assistance club... so much tension with both iroha, miura and saki oh, now this reminded the first request in the first serie, it was already an year from then? yui interrupting an embarassing moment, she's really good at keeping the mood stable haruno is getting more aggressive :o she's starting to look scary |
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| I sure loved the atmosphere during that cooking part. Everyone acts so obvious. LOL! Haruno kinda ruined some good moments there. That was annoyingly mean of her really. Talking about how lame they are when they are just having a good time. Way to ruin the mood there. >:( Jealous Yui incoming! Fake happy face alert! Her aura just went from the screen to my face! Overall, great episode again. Yui ED was nice. |
worldeditor11 said: Actually she says she liked the old yukino who used to depend on her(from what she says which i don't believe) also her envying Yukino makes sense as Haruno had to live upto her family's expectations while Yukino is trying to make her own path(choosing liberal arts instead of sciences)._Charl said: In other words, Yukino is a doll and Haruno is her sculptor.I think she's not envy, but she doesn't like Yukino being dependant and being flawed. |
appu1232 said: She pretty much play the role of dark knight 8man in this episode.zeron824 said: ^ this. This is exactly what I was going to say. In defense of Haruno, (which I think should not have acted that way, it was childish) Haruno is just trying to eliminate what is superficial to Yukino because Haruno probably experienced losing friends in her (Haruno) past because of her (Haruno) social status and what she (Haruno) will eventually become. She's trying to force two things into the service club. One is to break it apart because Yukino is attached to a superficial thing, or two make the trio realize their feelings and such as stated in the above quotes. On another note, Hachiman does not know anyone's feelings towards him. If he starts to think about it, he shrugs it off. That's his character. Lastly, someone else stated it, but I think the OP is full of freaking spoilers and crap. First of all, apparently in the lyrics it said about "finding something genuine." Then on the end of the OP is the scene where Yukino and Yui walk separate ways. I fear that that is how the anime will end. Whoever called it first, I called it with you! For a Season 3, I feel like it is possible. The series seems to be popular in Japan. Actually the OP lyrics were re-translated to say genuine after the genuine episode. Also, I see why there's a lot of hate for Haruno right now but it might be a tad unjustified. If you go back to where Hayama and 8man talk about Haruno in episode 3, you see Hayama explain Haruno's character. She doesn't mess with people she's not interested in. She either annoys the people she likes or destroys the people she doesn't like. Fast forward to this episode and Haruno clearly states that she doesn't like the Yukino of the present, hence her attempts of destruction. However, she is still her sister and loves her so I think there is a part of her that is trying to fix the trio. How she is doing that I am not sure. I think her plan is flawed because of her character and how she goes about trying to fix her sister's problems but she isn't as mature as sensei. Sensei would drop hints, knowing that the issue should be resolved by party that bears the problem. Haruno doesn't see it that way, so she is getting involved in a seemingly annoying manner. Overall, I think Haruno is going to be the one that makes 8man realize this love triangle because of her forcefulness. Her methods are arguable, but she definitely seems to be the one that is helping 8man see through their friendship like he said at the end of the episode. |
CutePriest said: worldeditor11 said: Actually she says she liked the old yukino who used to depend on her(from what she says which i don't believe) also her envying Yukino makes sense as Haruno had to live upto her family's expectations while Yukino is trying to make her own path(choosing liberal arts instead of sciences).In other words, Yukino is a doll and Haruno is her sculptor. I don't think it's envy though. I seriously doubt the reason why Haruno says she hates Yukino now is because she is standing up for herself. I think it's quite the opposite. She seems to have chosen liberal arts because of 8man. Haruno pretty much asks 8man to ask Yukino of her career path to see if she would tell him. If she did, Haruno's assumptions that Yukino is now dependent on 8man would be confirmed. So, since Haruno knew 8man's career path and by knowing that Yukino told 8man of her career path, it more or less made it obvious what Yukino chose. Not sure if that made any sense, but to me that was Haruno's clever way of confirming not only Yukino's career path, but also what the relationship between the trio is like. |
| By DaredevilGR from Kissanime |
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appu1232 said: Are you saying the reason for her choosing liberal arts instead of sciences(her previous choice as mentioned in volume 2 or 3) is 8man alone. She is not an idiot for choosing her career path depending upon others(her chat with Miura on their way to the party in volume 10).CutePriest said: Actually she says she liked the old yukino who used to depend on her(from what she says which i don't believe) also her envying Yukino makes sense as Haruno had to live upto her family's expectations while Yukino is trying to make her own path(choosing liberal arts instead of sciences). I don't think it's envy though. I seriously doubt the reason why Haruno says she hates Yukino now is because she is standing up for herself. I think it's quite the opposite. She seems to have chosen liberal arts because of 8man. Haruno pretty much asks 8man to ask Yukino of her career path to see if she would tell him. If she did, Haruno's assumptions that Yukino is now dependent on 8man would be confirmed. So, since Haruno knew 8man's career path and by knowing that Yukino told 8man of her career path, it more or less made it obvious what Yukino chose. Not sure if that made any sense, but to me that was Haruno's clever way of confirming not only Yukino's career path, but also what the relationship between the trio is like. |
Zalant said: About Hachiman's monologue (after the scene haruno and the trio) Does it mean that Hachiman feels something 'weird' in their relationship? YES, He feels something is at least 'wrong' in their relationship. After what Haruno said to them, Hachiman at least realized at some points the things they are doing are not really 'genuine' it feels like it's only superficial relationships like Hayama group, it's because this the very first moment Hachiman experienced on his life, He thought it as something 'genuine' but Haruno saw through them, Made Hachiman realizes does a genuine things really exist? |
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ichii_1 said: By DaredevilGR from Kissanime That is very beautifully written. I hope others take the time to read that because the original poster of that surely took a good chunk of their time thinking and writing about that. The topic of something genuine is very broad and characters like Yukino, Haruno, and 8man seem to struggle to define it, yet they seek it. Yui seems to understand that no one is completely genuine to the core, so that explains her last line "In truth a lie would be good enough." Not sure what the lie will be. Surely something to do with her feelings but I guess we'll have to wait and see. This episode seems to make everyone even more confused so I don't think there needs to be so much disagreement in this thread. It should be more of a sharing of opinions on what is going on since none of us really have enough evidence to prove our own theories right. |
CutePriest said: appu1232 said: Are you saying the reason for her choosing liberal arts instead of sciences(her previous choice as mentioned in volume 2 or 3) is 8man alone. She is not an idiot for choosing her career path depending upon others(her chat with Miura on their way to the party in volume 10).I don't think it's envy though. I seriously doubt the reason why Haruno says she hates Yukino now is because she is standing up for herself. I think it's quite the opposite. She seems to have chosen liberal arts because of 8man. Haruno pretty much asks 8man to ask Yukino of her career path to see if she would tell him. If she did, Haruno's assumptions that Yukino is now dependent on 8man would be confirmed. So, since Haruno knew 8man's career path and by knowing that Yukino told 8man of her career path, it more or less made it obvious what Yukino chose. Not sure if that made any sense, but to me that was Haruno's clever way of confirming not only Yukino's career path, but also what the relationship between the trio is like. I think 8man's choice plays a part in it. I know it would be foolish to say it's the entire reason and I bet even Yukino wouldn't admit it to herself. After all, it seems like only Hayama and Haruno know of her dependence on others. I think 8man's choice did play a part in her decision though. I mean I can't really prove it to you but this seems like the most realistic reason why Haruno wanted to know her career path and how she was able to realize what she chose just based on hearing that she told 8man. The fact that Haruno would envy's Yukino seems out of the blue to me. |
| After watching raw and eng sub version, i have some feelings and i want to share to you guys, i'm not good at English, so hoping you guys still can understand what i say. The first thing is Haruno. Yeah, she was a center spot in this episode. I saw many comments support her and some others didn't, even call her like a bitch. I understand. After watching this episode, i started to unlike her, but i do';t call her a bitch, i knew she had a reason to do this shit. She feel the trio didn't show the real "genuine". They acted like they don't want to hurt each other. The fake smiles and hiding the real emotion. Those things lead to her, she admited that not "genuine" thing 8man is looking for. Maybe she knew the real situation in service club, but i don't like the way she acted, it so harsh, and a woman like her can't do like that. But maybe after all, she want to find the genuine for 8man. Besides, Shizuka Hiratsuka, the sensei of this fucking club is better than Haruno, at least in my opinion, she use 8man to change Yukion's mind, not destroying her sister like Haruno. If you watched SS1 before, you can see the way Haruno criticized Yukion and the way Sensei taught 8man. They are both affect to Yukion's mind. But one is positive and other is negative. I know sometimes the truth is not smooth as we excepted. Maybe the genuine thing in service club that 8man wants is not real, Haruno knew that and said it boring. But it not only hurt Yukion, it hurts Yui too. I'm on #Yuiteam, so i can't comfortable to see what Haruno did, she even called her mother to stop Yukion. I don't want this become "that escalated quickly" thing. After all, Haruno is a real boss in this anime. She maybe has ability to see though mind better than 8man. But her actions was so fucking negative. She would have better way to treat her sister but she didn't but i will never call her a bitch because 8man said this one before "If the truth is cruel, then lies must be kind". I love Yui so much, this is the female character i like most from SS1 until now. So i want to talk about her much. This season have only one last episode, so i can say this anime is focus about Yukion, and it not for Yui, if you read LN from Vol 8. to Vol 10, you will understand, these are 3 vols Feel studio adapted to anime. And then when Watari (the creator of LN) confirmed that ep 12 is not original anime episode, we can said that it took material from Vol 11 of LN (i'm not sure). And after seeing the cover of vol 11. I know something bad will come to Yui. After watching ep 12, i can gradually see this as it looks coming soon. This can be prove that ep 12 used the ending song by Yui and the monologue at the preview ep 13 was from Yui too. At least, i was happy that Feel studio will make 2 eps for Yui. Yui totally deserved it. I almost cried when i see her said that "In truth, a lie would be good enough" because i feel i know one thing. Maybe it not true but I don't know why I only think about it and can't think of other things. She will confess her feeling to 8man, and want he accepts, even this would be a liar for her, but at least she would have a short moment when 8man and her can be together. That why she think this is good enough, after that she can quit chasing 8man, she already known that she can't have his heart but a girl like her still want to listen a good thing, even this is fake. No way 8man likes Yui, the only thing he notice her is only her boobs. He knew that only her do something directly into him like touching his hair to fix it, holding his head sofly, she had a heavy crush so much, but he doesn't like "nice" girl. And she even like 8man more, it hurt me much more. I knew she will be rejected. But i know she won't jealous at Yukion if Yukion ends up with 8man, she is the girl can bear this hurt. I know when i remember the night Haruno was talking with Yui, they talk about Yukion. That why she didn't decide to go out with 8man immediately (this is in ep 12), and when 8man want to walk with her after both of them say goodbye Yukion, she didn't want this too (this is in ep 12 too). She is a nice, honest and truthful girl. There is no reason that I can't love her. Her clumsy and her concern for everyone she cares make she more cute and adorable. I think all the thing i worte about Yui can be happend in the last episode. But no matter how Oregairu. Zoku ends, Yui is still the female i like most. I hope this trio can be friend forever. And the "genuine" thing will be found.  |
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Nikodead said: Something i can't agree with you. Sensei's method is vague. Trust anyone who will change someone eles is pointless. You must know this SHOW based almost of the REAL LIFE. So what about Real life? Trust or Belive someone in real life its even harder than you think. For someone stubborn like Yukino, sensei's method can't solve the root of the problem. Did you remember the episdoe 8? Sensei said one day maybe Yukinoshita will meet someone who can understand her and break her shell. But how long and that person will appear? That method depend on too many thing that maybe won't happen in the future. And again, you said its better than Haruno's ? |
| So after this episode I'd say- Worst case scenario-Friendship end picks no one. No continuation. Bad End-Yui route and only because of recent development. Middle Ground-Yukinon route a bit cliche but most likely route. Good End-Iroha route because Iroha is awesome. Best Case Scenario-Cliffhanger ending with Madhouse/any good anime studio, picking up S3 and animating the last 2-3 volumes appropriately. (Still preferably with the Iroha route.) |
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